Bad news Bees?

[_Deliverance_]

WTH is wrong with fighting bees in Lab S? Some people will disband pt if they have to fight bees in the first room....

Talk about weaksauce... Bees are easy.

[DonRoyale]

WTF...

People are scared of bees, but not giant dragons?

Huh, it takes all kinds D=

[Deucer]

I'm afraid of lolibots..

[Gojin]

usually melee are scared of bees cause they cant hit I was pwning them with diga, just make sure you have a wartecher or a foretecher

[Jife_Jifremok]

They need to be hit from behind, though sometimes even a hit from behind results in a Morrowind Effect (miss-hits). When that happens, just move a little and you should be fine.

[Gen2000]

An all Bee map is long and tedious, if people want boring and tedious MP/meseta farming they would continue doing Mizu S and De Ragans over and over again.

Going for the least amount of Bees as possible or none at all results in 9-20min mission times with 43MP/4300m payoff. Getting an all Bee map is like the worst map because you'll end up with Super Jarbas who are unSE'able unless you spam G Traps on them which makes the mission even longer than it should be.

[Kismet]

Bees are meant for honey.

No, not THAT kind of honey, damnit! D=<

[Merumeru]

XD omg bees are horrible...i dont care if it takes 10min to get a no bees map, just bring on the blood-thirsty wolves please X3

[Ffuzzy-Logik]

From behind!

[Gamemako]

Bees are a pain in the ass to hit from behind.

But what do I care? I just diga the bastards.

Wartecher FTW.

[imfanboy]

OK.

With 4 rangers in the party, all with high level burn, 2 bee maps and the Jarbas took 56 minutes.

YES, 56 minutes. With rangers, good ones, and a fortetecher.

With a no-bee spawn, we were doing runs in 25-30 minutes.

Bees are nothing to be afraid of, this is true.

However, they're a waste of precious time, which is something you can never get back.

[Hotashi]

Yes, Bees are a waste of time. Rangers can't do much with them except spam Traps.

[MomoHana]

I love Bees!

Fortetechers should love Bees! :3 Virus trap them for 1000 DPS

[Hotashi]

On 2006-12-30 02:29, MomoHana wrote:
I love Bees!

Fortetechers should love Bees! :3 Virus trap them for 1000 DPS



I'm a Fortegunner, silly one. >_>

And Protransers have no use in Lab S. We RANGERS can do all the work for them.

[icewyrm]

Stupid bees. Hard enough to hit laggy monsters when they are teleporting all over the place, less when they have uber evasion. Hit them in the back? I'd love to, if they were next to me long enough before disappearing to the other side of the area >.>

[etlitch]

Because

1. Bees are annoying.
2. There's preset templates of monster spawns of every map. Everytime you select a mission, one template is randomly selected. If you get the one with the bees at the beginning, there's going to be much more of them later on the map which means = slower runs, less exp,jexp,drops/time ratio. Man that's pretty hardcore.

[Esufer]

Bees are annoying, but luckily, Maya Shidow is sometimes on hand to provide the perfect advice to combat them. =D

[Gen2000]

On 2006-12-30 02:25, Hotashi wrote:
Yes, Bees are a waste of time. Rangers can't do much with them except spam Traps.



lv.4 Burn/G Trap + High DPS weapon (Twin, Crossbow, etc) = quick death of Bees, it's just tedious because of the manner you have to take them down (Get behind, apply Burn/random G Trap, switch to high DPS, spamspamspamspam until the SE wears off, repeat until dead).

And 56min with a 4-man party is pretty long even with an all Bee map. I did a duo with a few people on an all Bee map (why? I dunno) and the worst time was 40min.

[Merumeru]

On 2006-12-30 02:32, Hotashi wrote:
And Protransers have no use in Lab S. We RANGERS can do all the work for them.


XD im sorry but springing jarbas with Virus traps and stunning them from Megid-ing you with knuckle melee PAs AND even decent ranged damage support with bows is definently of use >P

On topic, BEES EAT MISSION TIME PERIOD XP

[Shiro_Ryuu]

well, either one of my newmans won't have a problem since they're both techers(not forte by the way), but my human and my beast aren't techers at all, they're pure melee specialists so all you'll be getting from me is a bunch of zeros.

[Sexy_Raine]

On 2006-12-29 18:02, _Deliverance_ wrote:
WTH is wrong with fighting bees in Lab S? Some people will disband pt if they have to fight bees in the first room....

Talk about weaksauce... Bees are easy.



I agree with you 100%, they are a joke. The ones I don't like fighting are in endrum remnants, paralyze= pain.

[icewyrm]

Most of the people saying bees are easy seem to be techers >.>

[MomoHana]

Because of Diga. Bees eat Digas! :3 Also Virus traps.

[Zalana]

Why are you even doing the bee map in Lab S? Do the Volfu/Badira map and do like 4-5 runs in the span of an hour.

[Mewnie]

On 2006-12-30 06:27, Merumeru wrote:

On 2006-12-30 02:32, Hotashi wrote:
And Protransers have no use in Lab S. We RANGERS can do all the work for them.


XD im sorry but springing jarbas with Virus traps and stunning them from Megid-ing you with knuckle melee PAs AND even decent ranged damage support with bows is definently of use >P

On topic, BEES EAT MISSION TIME PERIOD XP



I'll kill bees with you anytime! I <3 Pros :3

[CelestialBlade]

For Hunter types, I've found that the best way to deal with bees is to just use a weapon that hits a lot of times, and is accurate (Tenora Works Twin Sabers/Daggers are great). You're at least going to get in some hits.

[Hotashi]

On 2006-12-30 08:12, Mewnie wrote:

On 2006-12-30 06:27, Merumeru wrote:

On 2006-12-30 02:32, Hotashi wrote:
And Protransers have no use in Lab S. We RANGERS can do all the work for them.


XD im sorry but springing jarbas with Virus traps and stunning them from Megid-ing you with knuckle melee PAs AND even decent ranged damage support with bows is definently of use >P

On topic, BEES EAT MISSION TIME PERIOD XP



I'll kill bees with you anytime! I <3 Pros :3


Well, it's just the fact that Protransers really can't do much damage with Normal traps, even. But, the more the merrier. Bees suck anyways. ~_~.

Also, ELITE JARBA STRIKE SQUAD

[Wheatpenny]

The bees in S Lab have one purpouse and it isn't making honey.They like to shoot the bjeesus out of you and laugh cause we can't hit them.

[_Deliverance_]

Ok...
One of the reasons that I left ffxi, was because of the monotony, and because the community was always after the easiest exp/hour, and didn't care about anything else (when exp'ing).

I don't play for exp. I play for fun and for challenge. If you are so concerned about 'maxing your exp/hr', then don't join my groups, because my friends and I happen to like the challenge.

If you say that bees 'only' make it longer, and not more difficult, then think about the fortetcher. More reversers and more responsibility in taking them down. I can understand if you don't have a good fortetecher, but seriously....'it's not that bad'.

[PMB960]

On 2006-12-30 07:05, icewyrm wrote:
Most of the people saying bees are easy seem to be techers >.>



Yeah. People don't party with use Forces enough. If they did that Bees would be no problem.

[icewyrm]

Really? From what I've seen, parties tend to be focused around techers.

[PMB960]

I also think many Forces stick together since many hunters treated us like crap and now they are begging for our help in S ranks. All I know is that when I join an S rank mission everyone cheers and thanks me because they couldn't even find a force to play with.

[Garnet_Moon]

Techers band together.

As for bees? Haha... I say bring them on.

[Hotashi]

gb2 healing

[Merumeru]

XD I'm sure its no problem for the techers, just the fact that for everyone else, its a pain in the ass not being able to participate in the kickassery XP gunners and fighters have to still find their way around these bastard to get some damage in, and these are not worth wasting traps on when I could save that stock for jarbas XP

in essence, i dont want to make techers work much harder than they already do for us XD

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[panzer_unit]

Watch the bees drop some awesome rare. Then people will be like "BEE RUNS PLZ"

Even keeping the little jerks burning the whole time they take quite a while to die... not everyone is willing to pull a gun and help either, which is just stupid. They'll PA the things all over and keep 'em turning around so you can't just stand there and tap the fire button until you're just strafing an empty room.

[Hotashi]

Hmm, hmm. If anyone if up to a few Lab S runs, bugs or not, let's get together sometime.