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SolomonGrundy
Jan 4, 2007, 08:54 PM
Doesn't it seem like PM evoltion favors either one or the other?

For instance, there is nothing a ForteTecher would like more than a nice Beefy 410 Partner Machine to stand in front while she spams techs?

And how about A Forte Fighter? He might enjoy either a 430, 440, or 450 - he's already got the sword part covered.


But for synth - boy, those 100 Srike PMs sure come in handy!

EphekZ
Jan 4, 2007, 08:56 PM
lol wartecher

Neith
Jan 4, 2007, 09:53 PM
Yeah, my Fortefighter uses a GH-430. While she's fairly useful in battle, it does create problems for synthing, as she's only any good at synthing guns.

I guess you can look at it and say 'Well at least I can synth (insert type of item), which I can sell off to make money to buy the things I want.'

It does seem like your PM will EITHER be a battle helper, or a synther for you though, judging by the stats.

Garnet_Moon
Jan 4, 2007, 10:00 PM
I have a 420 but in all honesty, I shoulda left it a 430. Now that I have Lou AND Laia; two Trainers who take like 5% of the damage the PM's do and deal the same; if not more, damage. Kinda makes me sad that I ZERO'd my pure 430 for a gimpy 420 with only 69 Ranged. I miss higher gun %'s... i'll zero her and get my 430 back. I don't use her for battle anymore. >.>

This is on my FOnewearl, if that matters.

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Garnet_Moon on 2007-01-04 19:03 ]</font>

Rizen
Jan 4, 2007, 10:16 PM
Or you can use me...Im much more useful than NPCs or PMs. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Personally, I go for what I like. At first, my favorites where 420 and 440. Now after a few months its 440 and 430. I have been tempted to ZERO out my PM. But you know...I cant bring myself to do it. Sure, its not perfect or most efficent, but what is really? I like to make my PMs reflect myself in a way and the way I play.


But thats just me

zanotam
Jan 4, 2007, 10:23 PM
well i'm getting a 430 for sything AND helping me in battle as i can sell his synths since he's a pure and then that evolution'll help in battle.

MayLee
Jan 4, 2007, 11:20 PM
I don't know. I'm currently making a 420 at the moment. Level 27 with 7 Tech and the rest Strike. I'm working on the tech o 15

Cavarcous
Jan 4, 2007, 11:32 PM
Why not just have one of each... >.>

Remedy
Jan 5, 2007, 12:09 AM
450 = Synth PM AND Battle PM

If I spend less time Resta-ing myself, I can spend more time using Gi- technics! BRILLIANT!~ *drinks a Guinness*

MayLee
Jan 5, 2007, 12:21 AM
the 450's cast buffs more then they cast resta.

Garnet_Moon
Jan 5, 2007, 12:26 AM
I have a pure tech 450 on my Caseal i'm making a Fortegunner. At level 1 that thing was overpowered. At level 10, it still is. It loves to spam Jellen though. which is nice. My 450 is also good for my wallet. I just made a million off 3 Lidras so yay. <3

SolomonGrundy
Jan 5, 2007, 01:53 AM
On 2007-01-04 21:26, Garnet_Moon wrote:
I have a pure tech 450 on my Caseal i'm making a Fortegunner. At level 1 that thing was overpowered. At level 10, it still is. It loves to spam Jellen though. which is nice. My 450 is also good for my wallet. I just made a million off 3 Lidras so yay. <3



Not to be dense but...what?
Also, what does a 100 Armor PM become?

isahn80
Jan 5, 2007, 01:58 AM
On 2007-01-04 20:32, Cavarcous wrote:
Why not just have one of each... >.>



That's what I say, I've got all but the 410. Lvl 100 too, although my fav by far is the 420. I swear that thing does more in battle than some players I've seen...

Sychosis
Jan 5, 2007, 01:58 AM
On 2007-01-04 21:09, Remedy wrote:
450 = Synth PM AND Battle PM

If I spend less time Resta-ing myself, I can spend more time using Gi- technics! BRILLIANT!~ *drinks a Guinness*



No doubt. Finally someone whose evil disposition nearly rivals my own! Sadly all I have is Sprite :/

MayLee
Jan 5, 2007, 02:03 AM
Mmm, Sprite..Remix. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Remedy
Jan 5, 2007, 02:38 AM
That too - the 450s are lovably evil. They're like... cute evil.

And holy hell do I want her outfit. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_cry.gif

Garnet_Moon
Jan 5, 2007, 02:42 AM
On 2007-01-04 22:53, SolomonGrundy wrote:

On 2007-01-04 21:26, Garnet_Moon wrote:
I have a pure tech 450 on my Caseal i'm making a Fortegunner. At level 1 that thing was overpowered. At level 10, it still is. It loves to spam Jellen though. which is nice. My 450 is also good for my wallet. I just made a million off 3 Lidras so yay. <3



Not to be dense but...what?
Also, what does a 100 Armor PM become?


Being one of a handful of people with a pure 450 and mass producing Lidras and selling them for substantial profit is good for my wallet. I can't be any clearer than that if I wanted to. x_X

Remedy
Jan 5, 2007, 03:17 AM
Step 1: Mass produce wands (why god why, make rods ffs)
Step 2: Sell wands (again, why) competitively
Step 3: Wait for Guntechers/Wartechers/Fortechers (who are daft) to buy wands
Step 4: ???
Step 5: Profit

Something like that, Garnet?

Gamemako
Jan 5, 2007, 03:47 AM
On 2007-01-04 22:53, SolomonGrundy wrote:

On 2007-01-04 21:26, Garnet_Moon wrote:
I have a pure tech 450 on my Caseal i'm making a Fortegunner. At level 1 that thing was overpowered. At level 10, it still is. It loves to spam Jellen though. which is nice. My 450 is also good for my wallet. I just made a million off 3 Lidras so yay. <3



Not to be dense but...what?
Also, what does a 100 Armor PM become?



To answer your second question, it will become a 440. The 420 is the only PM that cannot be a pure synther, and can only have 90 of either Tech or Armor or 69 of Strike or Ranged.

Alpha-Hunter
Jan 5, 2007, 08:15 AM
IDK my fortefighter has a pure 410 and I just love having someone right next to me hacking away as well. and Once i get the mats to synth a few more A rank swords for myself it's off to massproducing hanzo's and dancers for the masses for my pay off (finally!). I like my 410 becasue I get the best of both worlds. Atleast I think so...

My Cast guntecher has a pure 430 and I think the same of it. It seems to fire way more frequently and from further away the higher It gets. It freezes more often then my Lv 23 twin freeze duelies. It's only lv 6 and the difference from lv 1 is VERY noticable.

To sum it up I'm very happy with both. Though obviously I could have chosen PM's that were more effective for battle for my chars classes, but then you miss out on synthing (most likely).

Diablohead
Jan 5, 2007, 11:34 AM
I kind of wish I went for a 410 so I had some help in battle, 430 hardly shoots but her lv4 freeze is good.

panzer_unit
Jan 5, 2007, 11:40 AM
Does synth trend make a difference? The 420 and 440 (especially their subtypes) have elite weapon classes, while 410 and 430 focus on the basics.

Akaimizu
Jan 5, 2007, 11:41 AM
My PM is being raised to be a 420, mostly in Striking and *Tech* (thus why it's taking me so long to raise it). I had to not feed my PM last night because I needed a couple of new weapons. I'm trying to get myself to a status where I can get Meseta faster, so it will be easier to raise the PM. In battle, it was proven offline that the 420 seems to best suit the needs of my character.

I work best with a PM that acts as a Hunter who pursues monsters.

Garnet_Moon
Jan 5, 2007, 12:09 PM
On 2007-01-05 00:17, Remedy wrote:
Step 1: Mass produce wands (why god why, make rods ffs)
Step 2: Sell wands (again, why) competitively
Step 3: Wait for Guntechers/Wartechers/Fortechers (who are daft) to buy wands
Step 4: ???
Step 5: Profit

Something like that, Garnet?


Yep.
I just made 2.1mil overnight doing that and i've got 12 more cooking. <3

Witchblade56
Jan 5, 2007, 12:17 PM
<3 Garnet & remedy,

And no synthesis trend weapon icon has nothing at all to do with proficiency. I've broken 6 jogiri synth's in a row one night [on a pure 100 strike PM] thinking maybe the frikkin weapon icon means something. Boy was I wrong.

On the flipside i have a GH410 that's 87strike and 13 tech that rarely made anything higher than 12% on a given element. I remade the GH410 [100 pure strike] and now i get synths frequently that are much higher. I'd say in the neighborhood of 15-20%.

I'm currently raising a pure tech to have for my human. I want to have my PM with me from the start this go round and tbh the 450 says some deliciously evil things when fighting!

Anywho remedy Ill be drinking a guiness with you... erm when i get off work tonight http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

PMB960
Jan 5, 2007, 12:21 PM
Well seeing as I have 4 character I am making each PM a helper for that character in battle. Plus I will also be able to synth whatever I want, since all of them will be pure, and give it to my other characters. There are 4 character slots so if you really want a PM to synth striking weapons you could always make another character just for the purpose of having the PM you want so you can still have a helper PM for your main.

BagofChaos
Jan 5, 2007, 05:27 PM
Better weapons on a human player made by the partner machine > Partner machine itself