View Full Version : XBox: Moving to Xbox...?
Phobos-X
11-27-2002, 11:46 AM
After seeing how the GC version of PSO is being poorly supported (keyboard and quests), how many are considering jumping ship to PSOX when it is released?
DjDragoon
11-27-2002, 12:18 PM
I'm still waitin for Xbox but that's a nice juggie you got there:).
Kalbelgarion
11-27-2002, 01:16 PM
There was a poll on the main page a little while ago. Of the thousands of people who replied, about half said that they were waiting for the XBOX version/jumping ship, while the other half said that they were sticking to the GCN version.
As for me, I'm currently waiting for the XBOX version, as I cannot afford the large chunk of cash buying the GCN version would require.
Phobos-X
11-27-2002, 02:33 PM
unfortunately i should have thought about that BEFORE dishing out all the cash for GCN PSO, and not only worse neither MS or ST is saying much about PSOX except that you can have 12 characters on your HD http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif has anyone else heard anything significant, mainly in terms of release date
Kalbelgarion
11-27-2002, 03:50 PM
Sort of. The game's workability with XBOX Live is currently being tested in Japan's XBOX Live Beta Test. The PSO portion of the Beta Test will end sometime before January 16th. When they are done testing the game, then Microsoft will release it in the States.
charr
11-27-2002, 05:16 PM
I'm seriously considering jumping ship.
Here's why:
1 Voice chat.
2 USB Keyboard adapter.
3 The rumored Xbox Live anti-cheating protocols.
Paying for xbox live and an additional monthly fee doesn't bother me in any way at all. As long as the additional fee is only about $10.
JordanLund
11-27-2002, 05:35 PM
Well, since I already own both machines it's not that big a deal to get the Xbox version (in fact, I've been planning on that all along.)
Let's hope that Microsoft supports it's U.S. players better than Sonic Team did (but then that would pretty much HAVE to be the case now wouldn't it?)
I dunno, if I had XboX, I would, but I don't, and I'm currently out of a job, so, you know...I don't think I will.
I will depending on the release date,which we have no clue yet,although not far after the release of the Japanese version is a good guess.Hopefully January,otherwise by March or later i might be a little tired of PSO and it might not be worth it to buy another copy of the exact same game,granted with everyone on BB and voice chat will be cool and a keyboard....ummmmmmm i guess i will heh. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif
WraithAkaMrak
11-27-2002, 10:38 PM
I am waiting for the Xbox version, because:
I have an Xbox. I don't yet have a GameCube. And it's still a fair bit of money to invest in the console and BBA and monthly fees. I'm hoping the Xbox version won't have a Hunter's License fee, but I really don't want to start the debate on that issue again. When the Xbox version launches, it'll definitely have a way to communicate - voice communication. Though I actually WANT to use the keyboard instead, at least it will have a way to communicate at launch, even if the USB keyboard adapter DOESN'T launch w/ PSO. I don't expect the Xbox version to get anything special the GC version didn't, and I really won't mind if it doesn't. I just want it to get released and to work well and have communication (other than the software keyboard).
EVILAdam
11-27-2002, 11:49 PM
I need this game Probally be one of the first games ill get for XBL that and UC !!
mystic_knight
11-28-2002, 01:30 AM
im sticking with GC version since XBox doesnt really have to many other titles that interest me. Plus the controller sux. Though, i might actually get one when the price drops to $150, though i doubt ill drop another $50 for a game i already got...but hey, i did it for DOA 2:Hardcore for PS2, i already had DOA 2 for DC. I guess ill just have to see whats in the future.
I'm waiting until the Xbox version. And I've got MechAssault to tide me over, so no worries here. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif
Castoth
11-28-2002, 04:29 AM
Everyone is forgetting the best reason for jumping ship to the XBox version. Microsoft will be running the servers, not the bumbling, small staff at Sonic Team for once. Quality should at least be better now for playing online. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif
Mazarin
11-28-2002, 04:45 AM
All I've been doing is waiting for the XBox version. And dammit, I can't wait much longer.
Blue-Hawk
11-28-2002, 07:51 AM
On 2002-11-27 23:30, mystic_knight wrote:
im sticking with GC version since XBox doesnt really have to many other titles that interest me. Plus the controller sux.
thats too true. the xbox controller is the most unresponsive p.o.s. i have ever had the misfourtune to wield. i tried playing unreal championjchip at a friends house and the buttons would bare register as being pushed even when i pushed them in so far they almost stuck there.
as for the titles. well, nothing interests me either. and i tried everything out there. if i wanted xbox games, i will just start my pc gaming again. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
BlazingTiger
11-28-2002, 09:52 AM
I was considering going back to PC gaming. Animal Crossing and Metroid Prime caught my interest for the GC. Nothing really for the X-Box for now (Unreal Tournament is a'right). Shinobi is the only game for PS2 that keeps me curious. It's sad...
BlazingTiger
11-28-2002, 09:55 AM
I was considering going back to PC gaming. Animal Crossing and Metroid Prime caught my interest for the GC. Nothing really for the X-Box for now (Unreal Tournament is a'right). Shinobi is the only game for PS2 that keeps me curious. It's sad...
HUcastAndroid888
11-28-2002, 10:21 AM
I bought GC for Metroid Prime, didn't even know PSO was on it. The only Xbox game besides PSO that intrests me is Mechassault, and I can easily get Mechwarrior 4 for my pc.
Ruby-chan
11-28-2002, 03:04 PM
Well Mechassault isn't like MW4 if I remember correctly. I believe Mechassault is an action game, going back to what they tried when they first made Battletech console games.
ChokingVictim
11-28-2002, 03:47 PM
mechassault ain't your true to pen and paper action/sim..
more like an arcade styled romp with enough strategy thrown in to make it less of a frag fest than something like UT...
holding off on xbox live right now, but i attest that the single player game and the multiplayer are hella fun
Gandalf
11-28-2002, 07:49 PM
Well, im eager to see the xbox release, and will be reserving my copy when asap, but i can wait. So many outstanding games are out, which include splinter cell...o did i mention splinter cell? And thats just one of the many greats.
What I find hard to believe is the crap about extra HL fee and fee for XBL. If Sega is running PSO2 on their servers, then Microsoft wun charge u for XBL if u wanna play pso exclusively. I dont think this will be the case though, since Microsoft has already announced that they will be the only form of online service for Xb, and any game that is played online will go through XBL. SO i highly doubt we will be paying 20$ a month for Pso (10 + 10). One or the other, most likely running on Microsoft's servers, and being charged the 10$ a month for XBL. If u want more info on PSO2 xbox, the next issue of OXM (Official xbox mag) will have a entire article on the subject. WHen i recieve the issue, ill be sure to post it.
MalambisBZ
11-29-2002, 12:14 AM
I am playing PSO on my sisters GameCube until the X-Box version comes out (I couldn't have possibly waited for the X-Box ver without my PSO 1&2 fix). When the X-Box PSO is out, I'm going to completely switch to X-Box PSO.
Also, I think the American one won't have an additional fee because the game has to be bought seperately, but in Japan the game comes free with X-Box Live.
I'm definately going to get PSO on the X-Box, it's the reason why I got X-Box Live... I will still play the GameCube version, since a lot of my friends only have a GameCube.
CorneliusPower
11-29-2002, 07:41 AM
X-Box has a miseable line-up of software, but i have to admit thier on-line plans are the best out of the 3 consoles. I'm considering the X-Box version of PSO but I fail to see buying an X Box system just for PSO is worth the money, considering I already have the GC, BBA, a HL , and 2 characters with 100+ hours each. Well...XBox is dead last in Japan as far as sales but thats off subject, Only reason I would get an XBox, maybe I'll buy one at GameCrazy for $150.00, is for Panzer Dragoon Orta, Mech whatever bah! So tired of Microsoft releasing so many so-so titles. Nintendo with Metroid Prime, Animal Crossing, upcoming Zelda and not to mention the linkables with the Gameboy Advance. X what? Maybe, just maybe i eat my words and buy an X Box anyway, I probably will, damn Im a hypocrate! LoL!
Ruby-chan
11-29-2002, 10:47 PM
Pen and paper action/sim. The only game that's been reasonable close to pen and paper Battletech games are perhaps the first two, Battletech: The Cresent Hawks Inception (Close to Mechwarrior. Note! Not Mechwarrior: Dark Age AKA Clickymech. *shiver*) and Battletech: The Cresent Hawks Revenge (Close to Battletech) though the Mechcommander games were pretty close to Battletech.. anyway...
That's besides the point. I'm pretty sure there's some nice stuff for Xbox, and if it isn't out now, I do remember seeing some nice things on the future lineup at E3. Steel Batallion looks good, Splinter Cell looks good enough, I'd have to look through their game lists to be more specific though.
CorneliusPower
11-30-2002, 07:34 AM
Look really hard Ruby, maybe you will find a couple of titles, but surely not enough reason to jump ship, bah! Splinter Cell got an 8.5 from EGM, and Metal Gear Substance got 9.5, but is being released for PS2 early 2003. Hmm, Blinx the Time Sweeper, is so-so, but I'd rather play Mario Sunshine. Do Not diss you know this to be a fun game. Still the flawless Metroid Prime, perfect 10 all the way on EGM, is untouchable. Dont diss, impossible to do so. PSO on GC, have yet to see any reason to go XBox, besides, all you XBox players on PSO fear the hackers who shalt be on-line, for they shall have access to your hard drive that is your XBox. No firewall, no character. Remember NOL? Dont get me wrong, I dont hate XBox, just NO reason to jump ship. You'll eventually get a keyboard for GC, be patient. Also, Unreal is so-so on the Box and also if I had any reason at all to get a BOX, it's Panzer Dragoon Orta, in which was a SEGA franchise title previously. So I WILL probably get an XBox just for that. My 2 cents, Peace.
<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: CorneliusPower on 2002-11-30 05:48 ]</font>
WraithAkaMrak
11-30-2002, 02:19 PM
For people who have GC PSO and don't have an Xbox, I don't see much reason to jump ship, unless they were planning to buy an Xbox anyway. For those who have both systems, they may want to avoid the monthly fee, if in fact that's how it ends up.
I wonder how many will end up doing the reverse... giving up on the Xbox version and getting the GC version instead, because they're tired of waiting?
(Everyone talks about how great Metroid Prime is. I guess I never was too interested in it. Maybe I'll be interested in Zelda when it finally arrives.)
HUcastAndroid888
11-30-2002, 02:26 PM
The X-Box is just waiting to be hacked.
Some guy at MIT(?) hacked into it and installed LINUX on it! The one thing good is that they will most likely ban the hackers, as Bill Gates doesn't really need the money. I think both systems are good, but I choose GC for it's great franchises (Sonic, Mario, Zelda, Metroid), and because the controller is so much better.
PerventerWind
11-30-2002, 06:52 PM
I am most likely to stay on Gamecube for reasons
1. Don't have BBA
2.Why start over.
3.by the time it comes out. a keyboard may come out
4.Even if I had BBA why play on Xbox there will be
no improvements.
The Xbox PSO will be nothing new than the GCN
only thing backing it up is for people who want voice which I think is dumb for a PSO game.
as for Mechassult, I rented it and since I can;t get Online I have offline and I think Mechwarrior4
is much better.Online for Mechassult may be good but..
anyways No matter what I am goin to stick to Gamecube
Rubesahl
11-30-2002, 08:04 PM
I can't wait for the Xbox version. I had so much fun playing with voice chat in the GC version. I just used my motogp demo and me and my friend stayed in the lobby of the game. Then we switched video modes and met online. It was soooo cool. lol Sometimes we even used presets by mistakes and forgot we could say it. Beats not having a keyboard http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif also even if there were a keyboard I preffer voice chat. People don't have good reasons of saying voice chat will suck. They obviously haven't played Xbox Live. If they would then they'd know how awesome it is in ALL games to talk. hahah! you should hear it when somebody screams or does annoying sounds, you quickly send bad feedback on him and mute him in the spot! That's why anybody rarely does it, that person would be really lonely then. Understand my point now?
Controller not responsive? good grief, it works just fine for me and perfect in UC for some good ol' fragfest http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif Also, there's the controller S http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
Not any good games? Sorry but that's a matter of taste, if you like more GC games, fine, if some people like more Xbox games, fine too. In the end it's all a matter of prefference so pick your system of choice and we're all happy.
My idea on this is:
Have Xbox? Have Broadband? like voice chat? like xbox live? Then get it!
<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Rubesahl on 2002-11-30 18:06 ]</font>
wayne_statix
11-30-2002, 08:24 PM
im sick and tired of this GC bullshit i have 2 memory cards both had 4 chars on them... all chars had generally above lvl 20 and i played hella long for my rares i attained... once i got online with those memory cards ... THEY WERE CORRUPTED AND I LOST ALL MY INFORMATION ='(
wayne_statix
11-30-2002, 08:29 PM
btw Rubeashal you state some good points... Chat without using keyboards sparks alot of interest and that also sets xbox above gc already besides the fact that gc has faulty memory cards i dont no the real reason why i purchased GC except for pso and metroid otherwise gc can suck these !@#$
Codester
11-30-2002, 08:32 PM
I'll be staying on the Gamecube. Out of all 3 systems, X-box has always been my least favorite. I like more of the games on the Cube, and I agree that the X-box controller isn't that great. I don't feel like shoveling over all that money to play one or two games when the only game I would really want to play is on a system I already own.
Tigertron
12-01-2002, 05:30 PM
Xbox has been hacked wow old news. So old that M$ knew it enough ahead of time to put a little program into Live so that if it detects any modding at all on your xbox it will screw your live account over and you will never go online agian. And it is kinda hard to hack the live part and turn off the lil proram since it is on the servers. you are cut off faster than you can figure out how to block the program. And if some1 does figure out a way online with a modded xbox, ppl will see them cheat and tell M$ and they will ban them for life. So I feel kinda safe compared to the fact the GC is just as vulnerable as the DC was. Look out is that evil chuck coming. LOL
HUcastAndroid888
12-01-2002, 05:43 PM
Hmm.., it is also OFFLINE ya know. I'm sure somebody could dupe their items, then change their id # to one no one else has. Their are plenty of people who would waste their time doing stuff like this.
<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: HUcastAndroid888 on 2002-12-01 15:45 ]</font>
ChokingVictim
12-01-2002, 05:45 PM
On 2002-11-30 18:32, Codester wrote:
I'll be staying on the Gamecube. Out of all 3 systems, X-box has always been my least favorite. I like more of the games on the Cube, and I agree that the X-box controller isn't that great. I don't feel like shoveling over all that money to play one or two games when the only game I would really want to play is on a system I already own.
i may be minority here but i luvvv that big old xbox controller,
controllers played a major part in my choice of systems earlier this year between a GC or xbox...
i was leaning toward nintendo after hearing about a possible metroid and the capcom RE deal... then i had the luxury of going to a friend of a friends who had a GC and an xbox...
that goofy ass, nintendo controller made my mind, which threw me considering i was a major fan of the n64's...
hell i still prefer the OG xbox controller to the slimmer controller s they want to make the standard now...
hell, i guess i got big hands, i didn't even like the PS controller the first time i used it
controller fanboyism....lol... come on we can start a whole new annoying debate here...jk
many people prefer that gc controller, more power to em... i for one am not a fan
Blenjar
12-01-2002, 06:04 PM
I don't have bba but got xbox live [ it fun ], just gotta wait for psox. To kill time I'll play Evolution World, after I finish that game, off to pso on gcn again, hope to buy a bba by x-mas.
MalambisBZ
12-01-2002, 10:48 PM
ChokingVictim, I too am a fan of the regular X-Box controller. It just feels so natural.
The s controller is good, but I don't like the start/select and white/black button placement.
I don't like the shape of the buttons and the size of the controller for GC. It's not like I wont use it though. I play PSO on my sisters GC all the time. But the controller just isn't my personal preference.
WraithAkaMrak
12-02-2002, 12:09 AM
I like the original Xbox controller pretty well. It's really a lot like the Dreamcast controller. Just a little wider, and the buttons are angled. Sometimes I'll mix up the black & white buttons, but other than that, it's not bad. I don't have small hands, the size isn't a problem.
I haven't used Controller S a lot. But definitely the start/back buttons are kinda weird, though i'd probably like the more normal shape/layout of the XYAB buttons. The triggers felt tiny last I tried the S controller.
The few times I've used the GC controller, it felt kinda weird. The left analog and trigger buttons are pretty normal, but I think the button layout must take some getting used to. I'm sure if I'd had the system a while, I'd be fine w/ the controller.
CorneliusPower
12-02-2002, 06:34 AM
wow, do you guys have super-deformed hands or something? X-Box controller is uncomfortable like having foreign objects in you know where. just not natural, trying to get a point accross not speaking on personal experience you smart asses. But seriously, you'd be better off playing with the standard X-Box controller upside down, you'd do just as good. Oh and when you guys say you like the X-Box controller, are you just saying your able to press the start button sucessfully? LAFF! No reason to go to X-Box if you already have GC BBA and an HL. If you wanna get hacked PSO on the oversized green box is the way to go. "Hello everyone, look at me I have a Hard drive , an internet connection and PSO and no firewall, please come Hack my ass into oblivion." No hate here and just my 2 cents, peace.
Sedyne
12-02-2002, 08:53 AM
On 2002-11-30 16:52, PerventerWind wrote:
I am most likely to stay on Gamecube for reasons
1. Don't have BBA
2.Why start over.
3.by the time it comes out. a keyboard may come out
4.Even if I had BBA why play on Xbox there will be
no improvements.
The Xbox PSO will be nothing new than the GCN
only thing backing it up is for people who want voice which I think is dumb for a PSO game.
as for Mechassult, I rented it and since I can;t get Online I have offline and I think Mechwarrior4
is much better.Online for Mechassult may be good but..
anyways No matter what I am goin to stick to Gamecube
Xbox will have a new character. Offline lag should definitly be decreaseddue to 2x more power of the gamecube. Cheating will probably be kept to the same minimum as the GC version is now. That's reason enough for me to get it. I'm not sure if I'm going to switch over as of yet since I wasted all this money on my cube and would use it for nothing. I'm not disapointed in the GameCube version though either. I'm just stating reason as to why some people or I may move over to the Xbox version.
HUcastAndroid888
12-02-2002, 08:59 AM
Xbox won't have a new character. The only 2 characters they could do would be HUmarl and HUnewm, and they won't introduce 1 without making a new character for each class. It will be the exact same game for the first few months, then MS will probably release some exclusive quest or something, which will deal with voice chat.
Sedyne
12-02-2002, 08:59 AM
On 2002-12-01 16:04, Blenjar wrote:
I don't have bba but got xbox live [ it fun ], just gotta wait for psox. To kill time I'll play Evolution World, after I finish that game, off to pso on gcn again, hope to buy a bba by x-mas.
...=...you don't have Broadband Adapter...but you have Xbox live...?Wonders how the works?
HUcastAndroid888
12-02-2002, 09:00 AM
He doesn't have the GC broadband adapter.
BrokenHope
12-02-2002, 09:05 AM
On 2002-12-02 06:53, SedyneX930 wrote:
On 2002-11-30 16:52, PerventerWind wrote:
I am most likely to stay on Gamecube for reasons
1. Don't have BBA
2.Why start over.
3.by the time it comes out. a keyboard may come out
4.Even if I had BBA why play on Xbox there will be
no improvements.
The Xbox PSO will be nothing new than the GCN
only thing backing it up is for people who want voice which I think is dumb for a PSO game.
as for Mechassult, I rented it and since I can;t get Online I have offline and I think Mechwarrior4
is much better.Online for Mechassult may be good but..
anyways No matter what I am goin to stick to Gamecube
Xbox will have a new character. Offline lag should definitly be decreaseddue to 2x more power of the gamecube. Cheating will probably be kept to the same minimum as the GC version is now. That's reason enough for me to get it. I'm not sure if I'm going to switch over as of yet since I wasted all this money on my cube and would use it for nothing. I'm not disapointed in the GameCube version though either. I'm just stating reason as to why some people or I may move over to the Xbox version.
I can see the xbox versions having the exact same slowdown in the exact same places as the GC version, power has nothing to do with it. The GC is god knows how much more powerfull than the DC yet it still has slowdown. Sonic team are lazy they won't fix these problems.
Also if xbox is 2x more powerfull than GC which would make it alot more powerfull than ps2, why does MGS2 substance on the xbox have slowdown where the ps2 version doesn't?
I have a GC and an XBox. I'll get GC PSO sometime this week and I might consider getting the XBox version later. I'm considering importing the GC controller/keyboard hybrid, depending on the price.
One of my reasons for getting the GC version now is that a bunch of people I know from the DC version will be on it too.
ChokingVictim
12-02-2002, 10:32 AM
never had a problem with any button on the xbox controller... maybe being left handed explains my GC controller prejudice... that button layout just doesn't seem right to me
Phobos-X
12-02-2002, 10:41 AM
the only major slowdown ive seen is when playing the 4 player splitscreen and all four characters are all in the same room, i havent seen THAT much slowdown since the 16-bit SNES and Genesis days. Hopefully ST got off their lazy asses and fixed it on the Xbox version
On 2002-12-02 04:34, CorneliusPower wrote:
wow, do you guys have super-deformed hands or something? X-Box controller is uncomfortable like having foreign objects in you know where. just not natural, trying to get a point accross not speaking on personal experience you smart asses. But seriously, you'd be better off playing with the standard X-Box controller upside down, you'd do just as good. Oh and when you guys say you like the X-Box controller, are you just saying your able to press the start button sucessfully? LAFF! No reason to go to X-Box if you already have GC BBA and an HL. If you wanna get hacked PSO on the oversized green box is the way to go. "Hello everyone, look at me I have a Hard drive , an internet connection and PSO and no firewall, please come Hack my ass into oblivion." No hate here and just my 2 cents, peace.
Are you a gay dumbass or just plain stupid? Just because YOU don't like the Xbox controller doesn't mean it's unnatural. I personally prefer it over all the other controller i've tried. I've got both the S and the regular controller. Oh and also if you ever try to get online with a modchip on your xbox, say goodbye to your account because you'd get your CC + XBox serial # banned from XBL. Yea sure it can be changed but who'd wanna pay for an xtra xbox ( or parts ) + another CC + another XBL account just to get his ass banned again? Not I. Also if you would have read the Xbox Live tour article you'd know that the XBL servers are amongst the most secure servers in the world and your CC and info's are totally secure with MS because even if someone breaks into it, 1. MS will pay you what you got stolen / broken, and 2. they'll prolly hire the guy who did it ( for a tasty $$ he can't refuse of course ) and make him secure the servers again. Anyways fine to me if you wanna pay per MONTH for every game you'll buy on your gaymecube, I'd highly rather have my XBL for 50$ / year after the first year. If I gotta pay for each of my games to play online, I'd much rather get a MMORPG than a gayass GC game. Thank you very much.
And for all of those that said XBox had no good games except 1-2 ... open your eyes, it's all about taste anyway, so don't say they suck when you've prolly never tried one of em.
On 2002-12-02 07:05, Broken Hope wrote:
On 2002-12-02 06:53, SedyneX930 wrote:
On 2002-11-30 16:52, PerventerWind wrote:
I am most likely to stay on Gamecube for reasons
1. Don't have BBA
2.Why start over.
3.by the time it comes out. a keyboard may come out
4.Even if I had BBA why play on Xbox there will be
no improvements.
The Xbox PSO will be nothing new than the GCN
only thing backing it up is for people who want voice which I think is dumb for a PSO game.
as for Mechassult, I rented it and since I can;t get Online I have offline and I think Mechwarrior4
is much better.Online for Mechassult may be good but..
anyways No matter what I am goin to stick to Gamecube
Xbox will have a new character. Offline lag should definitly be decreaseddue to 2x more power of the gamecube. Cheating will probably be kept to the same minimum as the GC version is now. That's reason enough for me to get it. I'm not sure if I'm going to switch over as of yet since I wasted all this money on my cube and would use it for nothing. I'm not disapointed in the GameCube version though either. I'm just stating reason as to why some people or I may move over to the Xbox version.
I can see the xbox versions having the exact same slowdown in the exact same places as the GC version, power has nothing to do with it. The GC is god knows how much more powerfull than the DC yet it still has slowdown. Sonic team are lazy they won't fix these problems.
Also if xbox is 2x more powerfull than GC which would make it alot more powerfull than ps2, why does MGS2 substance on the xbox have slowdown where the ps2 version doesn't?
UHHHHHHHHHHH maybe because the Xbox version looks 6x better? PS2 graphics suck my left nut, while GC are passable, and Xbox are great. You just can't deny it unless you have a thing for pixelised graphics.
WraithAkaMrak
12-02-2002, 08:43 PM
wow, do you guys have super-deformed hands or something? X-Box controller is uncomfortable like having foreign objects in you know where. just not natural, trying to get a point accross not speaking on personal experience you smart asses. But seriously, you'd be better off playing with the standard X-Box controller upside down, you'd do just as good. Oh and when you guys say you like the X-Box controller, are you just saying your able to press the start button sucessfully? LAFF! No reason to go to X-Box if you already have GC BBA and an HL. If you wanna get hacked PSO on the oversized green box is the way to go. "Hello everyone, look at me I have a Hard drive , an internet connection and PSO and no firewall, please come Hack my ass into oblivion." No hate here and just my 2 cents, peace.No hate towards Xbox? Hmm...
I'm definitely not saying the controller, of all things, would be a reason to switch to the Xbox version. I just think that the original controller isn't as terrible as most people make it out to be.
As to hacking... have there been any reports yet of anybody hacking into someone else's Xbox through Xbox Live? I haven't heard any, but if you have, by all means, give us a link to it. A lot of people will use a router too, since they want to have their Xbox and PC(s) online at the same time.
ChokingVictim
12-02-2002, 09:48 PM
considering i'm drinking now and want to put out an olive branch to the GC community, i will say something very nice now...
i'm jealous of metroid prime... there i said it...
i think we're all jealous of metroid prime...
ok, that's all i have right now...
and back to mechassault i go!
Mazarin
12-02-2002, 11:59 PM
Metroid should stay 2-D
Just like Mega Man, and just like Street Fighter.
I'f I'm going to play a console FPS, I'll play Halo, or Unreal.
SuperSubZero
12-03-2002, 12:11 AM
The stock big xBox controller is ok for some things (racing) but maybe not the best for other things (fighting). I've been meaning to pick up the Controller-S to see if it handles MK: DA any better. I don't see the big controller being an issue with PSO tho, the button layout is fine for my PSO needs.
CorneliusPower
12-04-2002, 06:32 AM
Xmax sorry guy, i need to inform that you need some self-esteem. Sheez guy. XBOX aint that great to go diss'n peeps. And i keep my opinion intact, you got deformed hands son, sory but if that hunk of plastic is comfy, then maybe you outta try lifting weights with your nipples, both about as comfy.....just pure pain! Even painful to watch someone try to move right or left with that thing. Sorry again Xmax, but XBox is plagued with horrid and B average games...get over it. Nintendo will always have the edge over Microsoft as far as original games....uh let me think.....you got Blinx, Splinter Cell, uh.....uh....whats that game, well who cares, If my GC dont have it, my PS2 does, in which i rarely play. XBox Live? What a Market they have released....like i said Im no hater of XBox, all my friends have 1...and i have to inform you Xmax, Im no retard or whatever slur you wish to use. Just a piece of advice, think before you post, because what you just did makes you look like the ass you are, hrmmmm. Peace.
Phobos-X
12-04-2002, 09:17 AM
im guessing that Xmax is a Xbox fanboy. sheesh, i own both consoles and play them both, dont rag on someone just because they like somethin and you dont, its called PREFERENCE look it up and learn somethin
ChokingVictim
12-04-2002, 09:23 AM
what's been the biggest seller for nintendo GC right now?
sonic adventure 2...
Phobos-X
12-04-2002, 10:13 AM
On 2002-12-04 07:23, ChokingVictim wrote:
what's been the biggest seller for nintendo GC right now?
i would have to either say Mario Sunshine, Metroid Prime or Zelda: The Wind Waker (if that isnt THE gayest title....) IMHO...
DirewolfX
12-04-2002, 10:23 AM
Metroid Prime is not a FPS and it was never meant to be. It's an adventure game. Think of it more like the 3-D Zelda games for N64--that's closer to how it plays.
ChokingVictim
12-04-2002, 10:25 AM
from the sales figure i saw, sonic 2 was the biggest seller since the system was released... i could be wrong here, but that's what i saw
haterade
12-04-2002, 10:30 AM
Can someone kill all of the fanboys? Please?
About the XBOX controller... I've used it, not as comfortable as the other controllers I've used, but didn't stop me from playing...
On the whole fanboy issue, I think I've found a formula for it
Game + System - Friends - Life = Fanboy
But, I think if you put:
Fanboy + (Sex/Friends/Time away from a computer/Responsibilities in Life/A Life)
It could possibly:
= Fanboy shutting the f*ck up
But it's just a theory.
<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: haterade on 2002-12-04 08:33 ]</font>
Phobos-X
12-04-2002, 11:06 AM
yea a lil poontang always shuts me up http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif
Elusive_Llama
12-04-2002, 11:45 AM
I'm sticking to my GCN version of PSO.
- A keyboard will eventually come out, and I'm patient.
- Voice chat is overrated, especially if all you're going to use it for is PSO. Heck, if you play a PSO level long enough, you don't NEED voice chat to know where to go, which enemies to kill, what switches to step on, etc. I've been using voice chat in Day of Defeat (Half-Life mod online FPS) for nearly a year and it is really only useful when you have intelligent people on the other end.
- I like the GC controller better than I do the Xbox controller, although I can still use the Xbox controller pretty well.
- I don't feel like redoing all of my chars.
- HaXbox PSO sounds like it is tailor made for hax0rz. Let me get this straight...a HD where you store your characters, a connection to the internet and no firewall? Am I correct? If so, doesn't that mean hackers can get direct access to your Haxbox HD data while you're gaming online?
saffaya
12-04-2002, 12:35 PM
On 2002-12-04 09:45, Elusive_Llama
- HaXbox PSO sounds like it is tailor made for hax0rz. Let me get this straight...a HD where you store your characters, a connection to the internet and no firewall? Am I correct? If so, doesn't that mean hackers can get direct access to your Haxbox HD data while you're gaming online?
Do you know how a hacker usually gets a grip on your PC ?
He probes your machine to find an open service to abuse.
And a computer has plenty. Web, FTP, Netbios, etc .. you name it.
Now, what use is there to put all these services in a game console ? none. So there. No open ports to access.
If a hacker can crack in your xbox and erase your save data, it means he could as well do it on your gamecube.
Oh, wait .. they could already do it on the Dreamcast. Never mind ..
Well, at least it was entirely Sonic Team's fault.
ChokingVictim
12-04-2002, 12:47 PM
sex, and an official us xbox release date would help immensely
Cruzn15
12-04-2002, 12:58 PM
Alright, here are the facts. Xbox Live has been out almost a month now. It's been in open beta testing for about eight months. Not one report of hacking or cheating in a game. Everytime you go online, XbL checks your system for modding and foreign software running. If / when it finds some - the user is banned. Don't worry.
Most people I've played with that use XbL, are very mature on the voice chat with only a few annoying people (which I muted right away). I'm sure you'll find an equal ratio of people who are a jackass on the keyboard (oh, sorry - if there was a keyboard) in GC as there are on the voice chat.
I doubt they'd charge a Hunter's License on the Xbox version as -
1. You're already paying for Xbox Live from Microsoft, which brings me to my next point...
2. Microsoft is hosting the servers - not Sonic Team.
The end.
Rubesahl
12-04-2002, 03:31 PM
Like it has been mentioned, cheating on Xbox isn't what you think. Seeing as all Xbox games will be on MS servers, I don't see why not they couldn't search for mods on XBs, etc.. I'm not saying it's impossible but you have to admmit Xbox is more safer than GC and PS2 are. Also, isn't the PS2 also getting a HD? So you're telling me when FFXI comes it's very possible for people to hack other users? Isn't PS2 the system that will/has an option to have Linux installed? Well from what I see it's the same possibilities for PS2 and Xbox then. Only difference is that in Xbox if a cheater is banned he's banned from all games and in PS2 he'd be banned from one if they get him. Well what's the big deal then? Also there's routers for those who want protection -points at his- Most people with broadband already have routers since they want to shre their high speed connections. I'm just stating what I think on this specific subject.
Cruzn15
12-04-2002, 10:43 PM
But even with the PS2, you're not necesarily banned from that game. Your GamerTag on the Xbox can be banned from playing online, unless you buy a whole new Starter Kit ($50) and use a different credit card / name to sign up.
vBulletin® v3.7.6, Copyright ©2000-2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.