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Rashiid
Jan 6, 2007, 10:53 AM
im sure its been answered, but does anyone know where it drops?

james_b
Jan 6, 2007, 10:56 AM
onma a boss boxes

Rashiid
Jan 6, 2007, 11:02 AM
k, thanx

MomoHana
Jan 6, 2007, 11:06 AM
Get Har/Quick alot better :3

Rashiid
Jan 6, 2007, 11:34 AM
but isnt tha A rank? dont got tha typa cash

Randomness
Jan 6, 2007, 12:19 PM
On 2007-01-06 08:34, Rashiid wrote:
but isnt tha A rank? dont got tha typa cash



And as fortecher, probably can't EQUIP A rank armors, lol.

Remedy
Jan 6, 2007, 01:02 PM
I have an A-rank armor equipped. *shrug*

Hotashi
Jan 6, 2007, 01:30 PM
At 60/10.

Rashiid
Jan 6, 2007, 02:52 PM
On 2007-01-06 09:19, Randomness wrote:

On 2007-01-06 08:34, Rashiid wrote:
but isnt tha A rank? dont got tha typa cash



And as fortecher, probably can't EQUIP A rank armors, lol.


lol we can! [i think]

Itsuki
Jan 6, 2007, 06:55 PM
On 2007-01-06 08:06, MomoHana wrote:
Get Har/Quick alot better :3




The japanese tests supposedly show that Har/quick is only marginally better than Mei/quick. I seem to recall some people mentioning a video made by the japanese that showed side by side comparisons. The Mei/quick being almost twice as fast as normal, and the Har/quick only being like 5% or 10% faster than the Mei/quick.

Now, on the jp server things are a bit different since Mei/quicks are farmed to hell (compliments of everybody's favorite mission dropping Mei/quick). But even on the US servers, the price difference should be enough that you'd really want to just get a Mei/quick since the difference in quality doesn't justify the cost.

JC10001
Jan 7, 2007, 01:06 AM
Any links to vids out there comparing the casting rates with/without me/har quick?

MomoHana
Jan 7, 2007, 01:11 AM
I could make one?

JC10001
Jan 7, 2007, 01:12 AM
Momo....I'd be really greatful if you did and I'm sure a lot of other people would too.

JC10001
Jan 7, 2007, 01:15 AM
Oh what do you know...youtube actually came though. Quality is a little rough but it gives you an idea.

I'm guessing the order from left to right is har/quick, me/quick, nothing equipped.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zb8ASDVSf0s

http://youtube.com/watch?v=S1IQVLnJvfo

As others have said, it looks like there is a noticable difference between me/quick and nothing equipped and a small difference between har/quick and me/quick. I think gifoie is the most obvious example.


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Remedy
Jan 7, 2007, 01:19 AM
On 2007-01-06 10:30, Hotashi wrote:
At 60/10.

I had the DFP requirement for Har-senba and Nafri-senba at about 54/4.

Hotashi
Jan 7, 2007, 01:25 AM
On 2007-01-06 22:19, Remedy wrote:

On 2007-01-06 10:30, Hotashi wrote:
At 60/10.

I had the DFP requirement for Har-senba and Nafri-senba at about 54/4.



I wasn't being entirely serious.

Remedy
Jan 7, 2007, 02:03 AM
I take every post as if it's made in all seriousness. I try to do the same myself.

Umberger
Jan 7, 2007, 02:09 AM
I think that the difference between Me and Har doesn't justify the loss of 70 TP.

Arieta
Jan 7, 2007, 03:01 AM
Well it depends on the spell really! If you look at the video showing off all three units, Har/Quick and Me/Quick are almost exactly the same speed for most spells. The one spell however where Har/Quick is a lot faster then Me/Quick is with the PBAOE spells. There was a big differance between those two units with that type of spell. At least with a Staff.

Remedy
Jan 7, 2007, 03:04 AM
And given that I love the Gi- technics to death, I'm getting a Har/Quick.

Well, if it ever drops, which I somehow doubt. =/

Mio
Jan 7, 2007, 07:11 AM
Don't you think that thanks to this Unit and the upcoming spells, a wand user fortecher will be the "i rule everything" class of this game?

Remedy
Jan 7, 2007, 12:11 PM
No, not at all. Wands still don't have the PP pool to keep up with an active Fortecher, carrying around a huge cache of wands is a pain and dreadfully expensive, and I've tested it myself - the difference is not that big.

Dj_SkyEpic
Jan 7, 2007, 12:32 PM
On 2007-01-07 04:11, Mio wrote:
Don't you think that thanks to this Unit and the upcoming spells, a wand user fortecher will be the "i rule everything" class of this game?



If the wand's PP surpasses 700-1k with a damage TP ranging over 550-600 around this time, then I would say so XD

Currently, even a W'gacro +10 doesnt have as much pp but has a superior damage against a Lidra (over 500+).

By I am a wand user Fortetecher with only 2 rods to carry. So I will find a way for fast damage even if it costed me 2-4k a recharge XD

Garnet_Moon
Jan 7, 2007, 01:47 PM
I have 20 Lidras in my shop. They sell like hot cakes for some reason. x_X

I keep 3 Lidras with nukes for when I need to power level a spell, a Cometara Heal stick, a Tomoirod Heal stick, a Tomoirod +5 with nukes, and 3 Mayrods with nukes. *shrugs*

Soon as I get a Me/Quick i'll be happy. Don't really care about a Har/Quick at the moment. The casting time on Gi-spells at 21+ is atrocious, but i'm managing fine. Me/Quick will be nice though. Wonder if I can buy it for a couple million. x_X