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burning_card
01-16-2007, 05:13 PM
----okay, i'm making a new character now and i'm not quite sure who to choose. I'm leaning toward the RAcast considering he's got power and accuracy (for the most part) and a wide variety of weapons. i dont want anyone that does magic, i just got done playing my HUney for awhile and i'm not wanting to make my FOney just yet, so it's basically a Ranger-cast type, not sure what to lean toward. (Maybe a RAcaseal?)

Figured i would keep my posts all together instead of making multiple topics.



Okay so i finally sa down and bought myself PSO + edition for my old gamecube the other day (i sold my PSO original version and my GCN awhile back but got another GCN, haven't had PSO in awhile)

Anyhow, i made a character two days ago and have been playing her pretty hard, now i'm having trouble. I'm a lvl 53 HUney in Very Hard, trying to get to ults and i can't seem to get past the 3rd form of Falz. How much light resistance do i have to have to withstand the Grants? I only need enough to where i'm barely alive, then i'm good, but i just keep getting one hit killed.

Any good weapon sets to go in with? I'm using a varista with 35% dark and 25% hit, and some Vice mechguns right now.

Thanks for anyone who replys.



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Banish
01-16-2007, 05:20 PM
Not sure how much Resistances to Light that you need...

->Have you tried equipping Resist/Holy or Dragon/HP? God/Metal/Body helps a LITTLE...


->For weapons I would use a Rifle, Double-hit weapons, and yea, your mech-guns seem okay. (Bringer's Rifle is real good. Try to replace Vise with H&S25, but I would prefer saber-type weapons because Mechguns are too slow).

-> When Dark Falz becomes weaker, it will steal your body/soul and places it inside itself. When Dark Falz places a copy of your body and steals your soul, if you have a HP steal/Gush as a Special Attack, you may use it while Falz is invinvcible. You will hurt yourself slighlty, but Dark Falz will be hurt also. If you have not alot of ATP, your damage will do 0 on Dark Falz.

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burning_card
01-16-2007, 05:25 PM
I have a resist holy and a resist something (forgot the name but it gives me 10) and two metal bodies. I think i'm good on health, 430 isn't too low (i made i with a foney awhile back and i know she didn't have near that much hp)

I'm just getting killed by the grants, nd it sucks. (I don't want to quit and get more lvs since i'm soo close, ya know?)

--Oh wow, i never knew you could use a gush weapon to hit him while he's connected to you. I've got some gush repeaters with a bit of hit i could use, maybe that may help. I think i'll just have to equip nothing but resist light type units and bring all my scapedolls.



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Banish
01-16-2007, 05:32 PM
Just try to Level Up as fast as you can...

My Force was around Lv. 65-70 before when he defeated Dark Falz on V. Hard. And it was STILL hard...It is possible to evade every single attack Dark Flaz does, exept Grants and his soul-draining atatck. The quick claw strike Dark Flaz likes to do often will always hit you, unless you are invincible, doing a Photon Balst, or you just got hit a second before.

But since you are a HUnewearl, they are Hunters that lack slightly in ATP, but have a great understanding of Techs. But don't worry. They are powerful, and you just need to be patient to wait to Ultimate.



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burning_card
01-16-2007, 05:39 PM
Bah! Lol, i'm always hard headed to get past the boss, plus my wife wants me to get into ults before i make a new character, and i want to make something new. (Don't ask about that subject lol, we're weird people)

I tend to try untill i get luck. I got into very hard at lvl 30, that was almost impossible but i got luck (the grants missed me a few times because i got knocked down by the missles he shoots before it and i took a minute to get up from it)

Maybe i'll do a run through the forest to get another level.

Banish
01-16-2007, 05:43 PM
Oh, another thing. Using Jellen/Zalure might work, but I'm still unsure. Jellen/Zalure is effective agasnt all bosses exept the Gol Dragon, but on Dark Falz, when it is casted, it seems to make no difference with its Grants. If HUnewearls can cast Deband, you should do it.

burning_card
01-16-2007, 05:48 PM
I'm fully shifta and deband on her (well lvl 12 of both but still pretty decent) but the jellen won't keep magic type attacks at bay. (Also, J&Z don't work on volt op far as i can tell, it cast for a split second and then it's like he heals himself, and the status change disappears)

Banish
01-16-2007, 05:53 PM
(Yes, I Froze/Paralyzed Vol Opt ver. 2 on Ult, the status just was cured instantly).

That's smart, getting hit by the blue-spheres on purpose, to avoid Grants. For me, the blue-spheres do more damage than Grants, for some reason...



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burning_card
01-16-2007, 06:46 PM
Lol, it never killed me (not sure why) but it was great to use to avoid that damn grants.

Yeah not sure what's up with vol opt, it was just his second form though.

Annnddd...i beat him, lv 53! That sucked big time. I went in with scapedolls, died untill i had no more, then died again, so i had to do it all by chance. I used the sphere trick again (survived by 2hp each hit) tried it a few times, and finally beat his @ss!

That was hard.

--Also, i forgot how much bartles suck...now i miss boomas...

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Banish
01-16-2007, 06:55 PM
On 2007-01-16 15:46, burning_card wrote:
Lol, it never killed me (not sure why) but it was great to use to avoid that damn grants.

Yeah not sure what's up with vol opt, it was just his second form though.

Annnddd...i beat him, lv 53! That sucked big time. I went in with scapedolls, died untill i had no more, then died again, so i had to do it all by chance. I used the sphere trick again (survived by 2hp each hit) tried it a few times, and finally beat his @ss!

That was hard.

--Also, i forgot how much bartles suck...now i miss boomas...

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Nice job!


I recall my HUcast in V. Hard mode, around 70ish (I own PSO+GC), and I beat Dark Falz with a Monomate, Dimate, 2 Trimates, and 2 Star Atomizers. I had no choice, it was a "do or die" decision, I had ran out of telepipes and was already to teh Boss Portal in Ruins 3. Now, just wait until you fight the ULTIMATE Dark Falz. And yes, Dark Falz is mostly hard, monstrusly evil and hard...

--Bartles are even BIGGER/Rocky-looking than Boomas! And more freaky-looking...

burning_card
01-16-2007, 07:23 PM
See, i think i'm done with dark falz for a good long while...but for some reason his scary, overly powerful self seems almost comforting compared to ultimate Dark flow...i hate that boss...soo friggen much.

Yeah, do or die things are the best, you sort of just try your hardest and do what you can to win. (They play cheap so you play cheap, ya know?)

Now for a new character...i' thinking a RAcast, are they worth it in the long run?

Banish
01-16-2007, 07:37 PM
On 2007-01-16 16:23, burning_card wrote:
See, i think i'm done with dark falz for a good long while...but for some reason his scary, overly powerful self seems almost comforting compared to ultimate Dark flow...i hate that boss...soo friggen much.

Yeah, do or die things are the best, you sort of just try your hardest and do what you can to win. (They play cheap so you play cheap, ya know?)

Now for a new character...i' thinking a RAcast, are they worth it in the long run?



Dark Falz and Olga FLow use similar soul-stealing moves, exept you cannot hurt Olga Flow when it is orange and transparent (only with Special Attacks, Photon Blasts). The Ultimate Olga Flow is harder than The Ultimate Dark Falz, in my opionon becuase Olga Flow lives under the sea (don't worry thats not the reason).



Yes, RAcasts, they are worth playing (I own one myself http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif ).

RAcasts have a good energy of POW, ATA, and DEF. Not so much on EVP, but you can deal with damage because RAcasts have high HP. If I am correct, I think that RAcasts have the highest HP out of all Hunters (correct me if I am wrong). RAcast's ATA is slightly worse than the rest of the Rangers, but RAcasts are the strongest. Feed Mag on DEX and RAcast will barely miss. RAcasts can use Traps

RAmars, though, I tend to like more because they can cast Shifta/Deband while fighting, boosting themselves is a good thing to hear. They have good ATA, and EVP, but lack ATP. Since RAmars are humans, they will have a little differ between them, they both have pros and cons. And, RAmars have cool costumes http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif



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burning_card
01-16-2007, 07:42 PM
Yeah RAmars are okay, but the lack of ATP kinda bugs me. I mean the lv 15 boost is cool for S&D, but i never liked that i had to boost myself all the time just to keep my strength decent. RAcasts don't have to worry about that too much, but they have the no magic fall back...but their damage trap potential is the highest so i like that (they are fun to use)

Yeah RAcasts have the highest HP, i think by like 150 or 200 points (dunno if it's that low, but something like that(

I think i'll make the RAcast and play around with it now. RAmars are cool but i just neverl iked the human rangers, for some reason. (Ramars are cool, but i prefer HUneys)


Well i'm off for the day, thanks for all the help Banish.


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Banish
01-16-2007, 07:53 PM
Yes, and plus, RAcasts can use ALL guns (besides ones that say female user/human user)

That means carnage/heavy-duty weapons, like Panser Faust/Iron Faust!!!

I find that the Fire Trap gets better and better over time...

DRO
01-16-2007, 11:20 PM
lmb

DarthJeeba
01-16-2007, 11:29 PM
burning_card are you playing offline or online? if you are purely offline, RAmarl is always the better choice because of the s/d

Netro
01-17-2007, 12:38 AM
Thinking about a new character, I am all defense, so I would use a RAcaseal. That's just me. I like that they can use Shot-type weapons, and that they have super good accuracy (my level 89 RAcaseal has greater accuracy than my level 114 HUmar). I also like the fact that you can go into higher levels easier. I beat Very Hard at level 63, or something, and Ultimate has been a piece of cake. I use Fill Vulcans because they have a Photon Effiency in Hit Rate, 40% Efficiency. Gotta love Accuracy and Defense!!!

DarthJeeba
01-17-2007, 04:23 AM
Racaseal is good, but she lack atp,weapons like mech-guns needs lots of atp to do sufficient damages, even 100 atp makes huge difference; defence is less useful for a ranger,
if attack power is high enough, the monsters wouldn't have a chance to touch u

Drayma
01-17-2007, 05:28 AM
Do you have two controllers?

I would level up the huney and use her to tank/mule and cast shifta, deband, zalure, because that way you can farm mags and let the huney take out the boss (after you get some hits in) and your droid and huney both level up.

Right now I have a huney helping a racaseal and she is raising a mind mag for another character. The racaseal knocks down the dragon with a final impact (shot) and then I melee the dragon with the huney.
btw with multiplayer you get more mobs.


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burning_card
01-17-2007, 01:13 PM
Yeah i'm purely offline right now as i don't have the set up for online. I think the RAcast will work good enough. I thought about using a RAcaseal (i had one a long time ago, got her to lvl 140.) She was cool but the lack of ATP did suck. Her DFP was good enough but i always thought that if i was going to go for the female rangers it would have to be a RAmarl (offline anyway) since the S&D can make her just as strong as a RAcaseal and the J&Z makes it even easier. Online would have to be the RAcast for the power, and run with a force or a HUney or RAmarl (anyone with S&D that's at a decent lvl)

Yeah i've got two controllers, but i play multi with my wife a lot and that's how i get my levels, and so she can keep up (I play it more then her lol, took her a month to get her HUcaseal up to lvl 56 and took me three days to get my HUney at 58)

RAcast will work for me, but now i'm debating with my next character. I have three characters that i know i'll make, a Huney, a RAcast (the one i justp icked) and after i get him into Ults i'll make a FOney, but i want to save her for last. (Plus i have a great mag for her, a Rukmin with 50 DFP and 150 Mind, took forever to make)

So i've got one character up for grabs and i have no idea who to make. It can be any character, but i dunno who to choose. I thought about making a HUcast, but i dunno.

Drakorn
01-17-2007, 02:08 PM
RAcaseal will be the best as she has good DFP

burning_card
01-17-2007, 02:46 PM
Well i dunno if i want a RAcaseal as my fourth, since i have the RAcast and it wouldn't be to much different, overall.

Banish
01-17-2007, 02:56 PM
On 2007-01-17 10:13, burning_card wrote:

I thought about making a HUcast, but i dunno.



burning_card, if you want power, choose a HUcast.

They have exellent fighting skills, slightly good EVP/DFP, but HORRIBLE ATA. A HUcast is a great choice for Challenge Mode, and for Ultimate, because they can deal more damage than other Hunters, and are stronger than most Hunters. In Ultimate, their ATP is handy, and you will have a less of a struggle, but the downside is missing occasionally.







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burning_card
01-17-2007, 03:22 PM
I heard that HUcasts have the best growth for freeze traps too, and that seems like something to be very useful in ults (they move so fast and my HUney is having issues0

But now i'm worried. If they have horrible ATA, then i would hate a HUcast for awhile. My HUney should have more ATA then a HUcast and she's not hitting much past forest. She's okay in forest, but come caves and i never hit. I tried some mech guns with 50% hit and i missed a lot, but hit okay, but the rest of my weapons never hit and i get slapped down too quick. I gotta level up in forest for awhile, till 70 i would say. (I'm 60 right now) That's the main reason i chose the RAcast. Great power and ATA.

BlueKnight
01-17-2007, 05:42 PM
I jest made a RAcaseal and it is verey stronge. I like the RAcaseal. I have a lv 200 RAcast and I think the RAcaseal is stronger than my Racast at the lv I am at know.
I would try the RAcaseal over all. You would like it beter then all of them. You will be suprised.
Good luck to you.

DarthJeeba
01-17-2007, 05:56 PM
no, ATA is not a problem for hucasts in ultimate, they are just powerful killing mechines
and u always experence knowdown problems if ur level is too low, leveling up a bit, u should be fine http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

I am purely offline, I have a RAcast, and without S/D his power is nothing compares to RAmarl, using a same Yasminkov 9km, Ramarl finish a gee with a LLL combo, racast cannot.
If you really like to raise a RAcast, a mag with Mylla/Youlla is a must have

Banish
01-17-2007, 06:12 PM
On 2007-01-17 14:56, DarthJeeba wrote: I have a RAcast, and without S/D his power is nothing compares to RAmarl, using a same Yasminkov 9km, Ramarl finish a gee with a LLL combo, racast cannot.
If you really like to raise a RAcast, a mag with Mylla/Youlla is a must have




Was your RAcast more lower of a level, or was higher?
Same for your RAmarl. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

burning_card
01-17-2007, 07:11 PM
ahh i picked the RAcast for reasons like trap potential, and the fact that he's a very good hunter type too, think i'll stick with him. I used to have RAcaseals on the brain, but i just lost the likes for them after they get to a certain level, i just feel they aren't going anywhere interesting, or away from just long range.

Still deciding on my fourth though, it's a pain to pick one last character.

DarthJeeba
01-17-2007, 10:07 PM
On 2007-01-17 15:12, Banish wrote:
On 2007-01-17 14:56, DarthJeeba wrote: I have a RAcast, and without S/D his power is nothing compares to RAmarl, using a same Yasminkov 9km, Ramarl finish a gee with a LLL combo, racast cannot.
If you really like to raise a RAcast, a mag with Mylla/Youlla is a must have




Was your RAcast more lower of a level, or was higher?
Same for your RAmarl. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif



ahh I meant same level, I had a Racast but I never really level him up, deleted long times ago.

BlueKnight
01-18-2007, 09:34 AM
On 2007-01-17 16:11, burning_card wrote:
ahh i picked the RAcast for reasons like trap potential, and the fact that he's a very good hunter type too, think i'll stick with him. I used to have RAcaseals on the brain, but i just lost the likes for them after they get to a certain level, i just feel they aren't going anywhere interesting, or away from just long range.

Still deciding on my fourth though, it's a pain to pick one last character.



Well good luck to you and your RAcast. He is a fun one to play with too. I have a lv 200 RAcast he is good at the game. Make shere you have S/D mag that will help you out alot. Try to max out his Luck/Power/and HP you will be unstopable. My RAcast HP is know at 2367. It will help you out.
Good luck

burning_card
01-18-2007, 02:28 PM
Yeah, the RAcast is fun. My mag doesn't have milla and yula (SP?) but when the PB guage maxes it gives S&D so that works just as well. (Though if it had M&Y i could have two shots of S&D, one after the other, oh well)

His DFP sucks though, but his power is awesome and i'm lovin the HP count.

As for my fourth character, would you guys think a FOmarl is a bad choice? I had a FOmar and he was okay, but i didn't quite like the melee part of him, a little lacking. FOmarl's look cool, weaker but are they any better forces? (I play on teams a lot with my wife and friends, and i need a force that can back people up but still do damage, thus my picking a FOneweral for sure, but FOmarls have the grants and i'm not sure how good of a boost it is)

DarthJeeba
01-18-2007, 04:05 PM
I am sorry to say that the S/D you get from 100 pb guage is nothing compared to Milla/Youlla,

With full IQ and Synchro Milla/youlla = lvl S/D, the S/D you get from 100 pd guage is level 5 I think

If you want a pure techer, go for Fonewm and Fonewearl, I personally prefer fonewm



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burning_card
01-18-2007, 04:17 PM
Oh, well damn...i thought it was lvl 20 lol. Okay, i guess i'll make a new mag then. I won't worry about that now though, since i play with my wife's RAmarl when i play my RAcast.

I think i'm going to choose the FOmarl or FOmar for my last character, not sure which one though.

Banish
01-18-2007, 04:23 PM
On 2007-01-18 11:28, burning_card wrote:

As for my fourth character, would you guys think a FOmarl is a bad choice? I had a FOmar and he was okay, but i didn't quite like the melee part of him, a little lacking. FOmarl's look cool, weaker but are they any better forces? (I play on teams a lot with my wife and friends, and i need a force that can back people up but still do damage, thus my picking a FOneweral for sure, but FOmarls have the grants and i'm not sure how good of a boost it is)





All Forces can cast Grants, and yes, Grants is very powerful on most enemies. If you ever find the holy cane, Caduceus, it will boost Grants by 10%.

FOmarls, aren't bad. Besides excelling in support techniques FOmarls are competent with weapons. This gives them a more balanced growth potential.

Go here to read more about them.

http://www.pso-world.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=1180



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burning_card
01-18-2007, 04:36 PM
yeah, they sound okay; seeing the post for best characters a lot of people put FOmarls and FOmars, so i figure i'll give the FOmarl a shot (i think they look cool too so it will work)

okay, got all my characters down, thanks for the help people.

DarkEliteRico
01-18-2007, 11:23 PM
A RAcaseal later on will be UBER-BADASS, if equiped properly you can switch from RA to HU about 130ish with out little to worry about. On RahXephon the Yamigarsu pwns, it took six drops to get one that had any hit %. But well worth it in the end.