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Punter
Jan 17, 2007, 02:28 AM
I noticed that the assassic has slightly better stats than the assassin but worse than the burst. Well, if it's made from the burst board and has less success chance, what's the point of making it? Does it get bonuses from something else or is it just good for gun collectors?

Remedy
Jan 17, 2007, 03:01 AM
Superiour grind potential.

However, nothing can even begin to compare to a Phantom powered by a Phantomline, so everything else is really moot. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

zanotam
Jan 17, 2007, 09:54 AM
On 2007-01-17 00:01, Remedy wrote:
Superiour grind potential.

However, nothing can even begin to compare to a Phantom powered by a Phantomline, so everything else is really moot. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif


I'd agre 100% now that i've seen Golden Falcon using that combo. *cries because WT doesn't have something like that*

Punter
Jan 17, 2007, 11:11 AM
What do you mean "powered by a phantomline"? I'd like to know so I can try it out.

Weakness
Jan 17, 2007, 12:01 PM
You get a 15% bonus to attack if you have both a Phantom and Phantomline equipped.

Wheatpenny
Jan 17, 2007, 12:09 PM
Asasinic has the potential to fall under the whole "I am Kabura, Grind me and I will get awesome" routine.You grind it and it will get insane bonuses...just don't cry cause A rank weapons have horrible grind rates on success.

Weakness
Jan 17, 2007, 12:14 PM
On 2007-01-17 09:09, Wheatpenny wrote:
Asasinic has the potential to fall under the whole "I am Kabura, Grind me and I will get awesome" routine.You grind it and it will get insane bonuses...just don't cry cause A rank weapons have horrible grind rates on success.



http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif When he says "horrible" he actually means "This is the most retarded thing you can do, most A ranks don't get good +'s from grinds anyway and you are wasting your money and the grinding NPC lady is going to laugh at you when you break a 9* weapon going from 0 to +1."

Kelevra
Jan 17, 2007, 12:44 PM
When he says "horrible" he actually means "This is the most retarded thing you can do, most A ranks don't get good +'s from grinds anyway and you are wasting your money and the grinding NPC lady is going to laugh at you when you break a 9* weapon going from 0 to +1."

Yeah The whole concept of kuabara weapons are relatively stupid. First you have to drop the success rate to actually make, than you have to gamble on grinds to make it comperable to the origional weapon..... F that.

foamcup
Jan 17, 2007, 12:49 PM
Ah, but having a truly rare weapon is what some people want. If I had an Alteric +10, I'd be waving that around in front of my buddy who loves bows. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

Fure_Rakune
Jan 17, 2007, 02:13 PM
Ive seen a couple Alteric +10's, aside from the one I currently own. I could hae a second one but the baby broke going from 9 to 10.
Oh well, one is better than none :>

Golto
Jan 17, 2007, 02:38 PM
Weakness you need to get it right. Its 25% bonus w/ any set combo. Of course the phantom + phantom line being the best so far.

Rashiid
Jan 17, 2007, 02:58 PM
o i thought it would be like a 50% better attack, i guess the phantom combo isnt all its hype....

Weakness
Jan 17, 2007, 03:00 PM
On 2007-01-17 11:38, Golto wrote:
Weakness you need to get it right. Its 25% bonus w/ any set combo. Of course the phantom + phantom line being the best so far.



Last I read was from a JP site and it said 15%. Never know though, My defense is still only 58 on my Caseal ForteGunner.

I'll have exact info soon enough I guess.

Ninja Stealth Edit Add:


On 2007-01-17 11:58, Rashiid wrote:
o i thought it would be like a 50% better attack, i guess the phantom combo isnt all its hype....



If you look at it in the light of the Phantom having 541 ATP by itself, plus another good 400+ from your characters ATP, and another 150% or so from Bullets. 25% Would be adding a few hundred ATP, and for what? Equipping a decent armor that gets a huge defense bonus as well.



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Golto
Jan 17, 2007, 04:41 PM
The bonus seems to be based on base stats of weapons/armor. So phantom 541 + (541 *.25) = 676. The one thing I'm not clear about if this is added before or after bullet %. There is a definate increase with element advantage though. I've seen on average around 30 dmg points increase w/ low lvl bullets and no elemental advantage and 60+ dmg w/ high lvl bullets w/ elemental advantage. The jpn website I've seen say it is 25% bonus so I don't know where 15% comes from. I really wish these bonuses were not unseen in the status menus of weapons/armors.

Fran
Jan 17, 2007, 05:31 PM
Can't A rank weapons not be grinded yet, so all these Kubara weapons are pointless right now?

Itsuki
Jan 17, 2007, 05:37 PM
On 2007-01-17 13:41, Golto wrote:
The bonus seems to be based on base stats of weapons/armor. So phantom 541 + (541 *.25) = 676. The one thing I'm not clear about if this is added before or after bullet %. There is a definate increase with element advantage though. I've seen on average around 30 dmg points increase w/ low lvl bullets and no elemental advantage and 60+ dmg w/ high lvl bullets w/ elemental advantage. The jpn website I've seen say it is 25% bonus so I don't know where 15% comes from. I really wish these bonuses were not unseen in the status menus of weapons/armors.



15 was back when tehy thought it multipled your whole ATP and not just the weapons I think. Sometimes they don't get it right the first time, afterall, it IS a wiki.

foamcup
Jan 17, 2007, 06:00 PM
On 2007-01-17 14:31, Fran wrote:
Can't A rank weapons not be grinded yet, so all these Kubara weapons are pointless right now?



The Alteric is B-Rank, so it's awesome, but yeah, everything else is A-Rank, so not too hot right now.

NPCMook
Jan 17, 2007, 07:04 PM
There are some B and C rank Kubara weapons...

Arb Hadoc
Alteric
Handguc
B'duki Hadoc
Pistatorec
Machineguc
Maggac
Riahoc
Riflec
Deljacbaner
Florecent Bulb
Harisan Battle Fan
Twin Harisan Battle Fan
Shigga Damduc
Ryo-Pistorec
Twin Handguc
Del Jagnus

All B and C ranks

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Ryoki
Jan 17, 2007, 07:23 PM
On 2007-01-17 14:31, Fran wrote:
Can't A rank weapons not be grinded yet, so all these Kubara weapons are pointless right now?


Nothing is pointless unless it has like, 0 atp. It is still a good weapon.

Remedy
Jan 17, 2007, 07:58 PM
On 2007-01-17 09:01, Weakness wrote:
You get a 15% bonus to attack if you have both a Phantom and Phantomline equipped.No, actually, it's 25% ATA, 25% ATP, and 25% DFP (of the weapon and armor's base)

zanotam
Jan 17, 2007, 10:10 PM
On 2007-01-17 16:58, Remedy wrote:

On 2007-01-17 09:01, Weakness wrote:
You get a 15% bonus to attack if you have both a Phantom and Phantomline equipped.No, actually, it's 25% ATA, 25% ATP, and 25% DFP (of the weapon and armor's base)


QFT! Why QFT? She's the lolibrarian she's ALWAYS right