PSU-PS2: UNIVERSE 2 gone?!

[Syl]

I was frag hunting and I got DCed, now uni 2 is missing >.>

[Pinecone]

it booted everyone like 10 seconds ago and it made me lol. Everyone is saying WTF and hackers crashed uni 2 XD, what was everyone doing when the universe imploded on itself, i was black heart hunting, thank god i was just about to leave since it wasnt a rare map http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[VanHalen]

to universe 3!!!!!

[Garnet_Moon]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/cottontail777/PSU/uni2XD.jpg

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

[Golto]

It was just a matter of time. It doesn't matter which server everyone crowds on they will crash from time to time.

[_Vyser_]

Well, universe 2 just crashed...now the new universe 1 is...universe 1 http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif. Or do you think after both universe 1 and 2 crashing, we'll move to universe 3?

[Syl]

It's back up and now people are arguing about uni1 vs Uni 2 lol

[Sychosis]

Mood: 1337 |-|@x0r

It was you! ::Points accusingly::

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[foamcup]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *breathe* AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[Retehi]

Hurray, migration!

[kingofkings]

OMg there me in the pic lol wow i look good

[Syl]

On 2007-02-06 15:35, _Vyser_ wrote:
Well, universe 2 just crashed...now the new universe 1 is...universe 1 http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif. Or do you think after both universe 1 and 2 crashing, we'll move to universe 3?



lol Vyser, as soon as you left, the guy you gave lead to was an ass...

[Garnet_Moon]

On 2007-02-06 15:40, Nukei wrote:
Once uni 18 crashes then?


UNPOSSIBLE! SILENCE!

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_chuck-ball.gif

[Golto]

Lol when will people figure out its not what universe you are on that causes the crashes it is the overloading of one server?

[CelestialBlade]

If we wait long enough, all the servers will crash at the same time and the SECRET UNIVERSE will open up!

[Tay]

EV3RyoNE caRrying over 3mill will be B&

[Retehi]

On 2007-02-06 15:50, Tay wrote:
EV3RyoNE caRrying over 3mill will be B&



lol

[Tay]

No.

[Xtasisanu]

So that was that weird noise I heard last night... Every yelling and gasping at the same time...

[Axel3792]

Classic.

[Xtasisanu]

Stop not validating my joke! D:

[Scejntjynahl]

So what? Not like getting disconnect that way makes you lose any data. Get over it.

[Xtasisanu]

Ohhh it got a little cold in this thread...

[Almalexia]

I've been on uni2 all day. . .not logged out once. I'm logged in right now.

O_o maybe I'm immune.

[Blanky]

AAAAAAAAAAND Uni 1 went down. This is freaking pricless




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[Pinecone]

LOL there goes uni 1
this is making me lol so much

[Garnet_Moon]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/cottontail777/PSU/uni1XD.jpg

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

[kingofkings]

On 2007-02-06 15:35, Garnet_Moon wrote:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/cottontail777/PSU/uni2XD.jpg

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif


thnx for making me famous thats me everyone on the pic wit Alexei

[Syl]

Wow I freaking laughed so hard...

I think this may cause people to go to seperate unis now

[Itoshi]

t3h h4x 4r3 b4ck5 l0l

[Bluepheonix]

all the uni's are playing up, i got boote from 09, and 13, bout an hour ago

[Retehi]

On 2007-02-06 16:35, Nukei wrote:
Let's watch 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,16,17,18 go down. Then everyone will be on Uni 15 @.@!



Yeah, then all the games will be locked.

[Ultra]

My team was on a rare Hive map when Uni 1 crashed...thanks Sega...now gimme my BlackHeart!!!1111!!!!1

[VanHalen]

On 2007-02-06 16:44, Ultra wrote:
My team was on a rare Hive map when Uni 1 crashed...thanks Sega...now gimme my BlackHeart!!!1111!!!!1



well you werent gonna find it that time anyway. and dont blame sega blame your buddies who crowded the universe

[Garnet_Moon]

U2 died another fucking time. 3*'s only. WTFH!

3 now has 1* and a blank one.
7 has a full one.

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[Pinecone]

lol there goes the uni 2 again, right when i switched back cuz i thought it was safe, I think i broke it http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Parn]

Sounds to me like someone's trying to bring down the network.

[Ultra]

Van...the server wasn't even full...sigh...no-it-alls...go figure :/

wtg Sega...your shyt keeps braeking down!

[Randomness]

Well, its back up, again...

[GreenArcher]

HAX ARE TAKIN OVER!
QUICK, EVERONE HIDE IN UNI 15

[kingofkings]

Ummm wats going on here guys im tryna to do S rank mission and this stupid server d/c

[Q_Anon]

Sounds to me like someone's trying to bring down the network.


I agree, after it crashed the second time I suspected foul play, it's too many crashes right next to each other to be normal.

[Garnet_Moon]

Possibly a DDOS attack? Or, whatever that thing is.

[Randomness]

On 2007-02-06 17:10, Garnet_Moon wrote:
Possibly a DDOS attack? Or, whatever that thing is.



Hmm... would that work with this game?

[Dragwind]

This is funny. Id like to hear what sega has to say about this. Some people are even going as far to say that segs is currently mass banning people with unreleased items o.O (highly doubt it due to it would be a loss of their money)

[Dragwind]

I hope so :3

[Q_Anon]

This is funny. Id like to hear what sega has to say about this. Some people are even going as far to say that segs is currently mass banning people with unreleased items o.O (highly doubt it due to it would be a loss of their money)


So is people quitting from the weapons being on the server in the first place.

[Retehi]

On 2007-02-06 17:15, Nukei wrote:
Actually the mass banning is true @.@



How bout' showing us some proof?

I'm not really doubting, I'd just like a sure word instead of a brief post caused by word of mouth.

[Dragwind]

what? that would be such a ridiculous thing to fret over and quit about.

[Q_Anon]

Yeah, but people have done it. >.>

[zanotam]

Moby Dun:*GASP*
Ethan Skywaber: what what is it?
Moby Dun:I just felt a horrible ripple through the force as if 2000 PSU gamers were kicked off the game all at once....
Ethan Skywaber:....
Moby Dun:What?
Ethan Skywaber:Dude, no one cares, PSU sucks end of story.
Moby Dun: http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif



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[Niered]

If there are mass bannings, it would explain the current lack of players online.

Although, that is more likely due to the fact that the server crashes just make people call it quits for the night (like me!)

[Xtasisanu]

On 2007-02-06 18:35, zanotam wrote:
Moby Dun:*GASP*
Ethan Skywaber: what what is it?
Moby Dun:I just felt a horrible ripple through the force as if 2000 PSU gamers were kicked off the game all at once....
Ethan Skywaber:....
Moby Dun:What?
Ethan Skywaber:Dude, no one cares, PSU sucks end of story.
Moby Dun: http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif



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Ethan sucks... >.>

[Kirip-san]

Never thought I'd see Universe 3 crowded~nyo.

[Garnet_Moon]

A~nd Universe 3 dies now too.

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_chuck-ball.gif

gg ST.

[MaximusLight]

Another one bits the dust, I think it's safe to say it's hackers.

[Tay]

Universe 3 just divided by zero.

[Garnet_Moon]

Well, uni15 has 1 and a half stars!

Uni3 was full a second ago. XD

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/cottontail777/PSU/uni3XD.jpg

OMG PSOW's claimed server lives!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/cottontail777/PSU/uni15XD.jpg

[Siertes]

LOL I haven't played this game in a few days and now things start screwing up. I think the God of Rares misses me.

[Rasputin]

I hope attacks don't move to Uni 15 just cause it's slightly populated

[Macras]

looks like either uni 1 gets another slap to the face or it'll be uni 15 this time ._.

[MaximusLight]

SOmeone should make a video about this with, "Another One bites the Dust" in the background. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Garnet_Moon]

Uni1 just got raped again.

XD

Uni15 lives! 2*'s!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/cottontail777/PSU/uni15lives1.jpg

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[VanHalen]

in away i feel this is getting really bad since people in this game will bitch and quit over the tiniest thing even if its funny. "arrgh too many people are going on one server and they are crashing" *quits PSU* now im worried

[NPCMook]

Garnet is giving away the hiding spot >.>

[Ash1ey]

Uni15 just went kaboom http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

[Sekani]

What are they doing over there?!

[Ffuzzy-Logik]

Wow, 4 pages and not a single post blaming Cor3y or Team Forever.


Oh wait, this is PSOW, nevermind.

[MaximusLight]

and another one bit the dust!

[Zorafim]

On 2007-02-06 20:23, VanHalen wrote:
in away i feel this is getting really bad since people in this game will bitch and quit over the tiniest thing even if its funny. "arrgh too many people are going on one server and they are crashing" *quits PSU* now im worried




This is actually a pretty good reason to quit a game. If the servers can't hold the amount of people they're meant to hold, then something has to be wrong. The fact that servers that are meant to hold a certain amount of people are crashing when it's only 50% full means that something is wrong.

[VanHalen]

On 2007-02-06 21:53, Zorafim wrote:

On 2007-02-06 20:23, VanHalen wrote:
in away i feel this is getting really bad since people in this game will bitch and quit over the tiniest thing even if its funny. "arrgh too many people are going on one server and they are crashing" *quits PSU* now im worried




This is actually a pretty good reason to quit a game. If the servers can't hold the amount of people they're meant to hold, then something has to be wrong. The fact that servers that are meant to hold a certain amount of people are crashing when it's only 50% full means that something is wrong.


very true but i just dont wanna see the servers die out ya'know i am beggining to suspect maybe it is something besided collasping from too many people on a server. i mean according to another topic the cheaters want their revenge.

[MaximusLight]

On 2007-02-06 22:09, VanHalen wrote:

On 2007-02-06 21:53, Zorafim wrote:

On 2007-02-06 20:23, VanHalen wrote:
in away i feel this is getting really bad since people in this game will bitch and quit over the tiniest thing even if its funny. "arrgh too many people are going on one server and they are crashing" *quits PSU* now im worried




This is actually a pretty good reason to quit a game. If the servers can't hold the amount of people they're meant to hold, then something has to be wrong. The fact that servers that are meant to hold a certain amount of people are crashing when it's only 50% full means that something is wrong.


very true but i just dont wanna see the servers die out ya'know i am beggining to suspect maybe it is something besided collasping from too many people on a server. i mean according to another topic the cheaters want their revenge.



Well lets face it at this point all we can do is try.

[VanHalen]

On 2007-02-06 22:11, MaximusLight wrote:

On 2007-02-06 22:09, VanHalen wrote:

On 2007-02-06 21:53, Zorafim wrote:

On 2007-02-06 20:23, VanHalen wrote:
in away i feel this is getting really bad since people in this game will bitch and quit over the tiniest thing even if its funny. "arrgh too many people are going on one server and they are crashing" *quits PSU* now im worried




This is actually a pretty good reason to quit a game. If the servers can't hold the amount of people they're meant to hold, then something has to be wrong. The fact that servers that are meant to hold a certain amount of people are crashing when it's only 50% full means that something is wrong.


very true but i just dont wanna see the servers die out ya'know i am beggining to suspect maybe it is something besided collasping from too many people on a server. i mean according to another topic the cheaters want their revenge.



Well lets face it at this point all we can do is try.



yeah and also we need to pray it gets back up on its feet *uses a reference* sorta like onmagough when you shoot him in the wings and he falls he doesnt give up. he grows them again and starts flying!

[Shaidar]

Woho. Maybe we'll see the playerbase spread out a bit more! And all PSOW people will start playing on Uni15! Or not..

As long as the bum don't crowd Uni15 and ruin it with their stupidity I don't mind a server crash every now and then. XD It happens. Although maybe ST should consider lowering the maximum amout of players on a server, or something like that?



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[Genji]

On 2007-02-07 00:11, Shaidar wrote:
Woho. Maybe we'll see the playerbase spread out a bit more! And all PSOW people will start playing onl Uni15! Or not..

As long as the bum don't crowd Uni15 and ruin it with their stupidity I don't mind a server crash every now and then. XD It happens. Although maybe ST should consider lowering the maximum amout of players on a server, or something like that?



Universe 2 has held up fine at max, it's only today that they began crashing. Of course a crash or two would seem like nothing, but the amount of crashes and the timeframe between each crash is suspicious. It's more than likely someone was deliberately crashing the universes everyone was migrating to.

[Tay]

On 2007-02-06 23:01, Kimil wrote:
Why Cant Sega join us with the JP servers?Because Sega sucks.

[Libram]

On 2007-02-06 23:01, Kimil wrote:
Why Cant Sega join us with the JP servers?
I can't believe I'm saying this, but the JP playerbase would suddenly be exposed to all the US "hax" and such. The outcry from Sonic Team's true customers would force them to deal with the GameGuard issue and cost more money than they're willing to spend.

[_Deliverance_]

It has nothing to do with the amount of people on the server. 90% of everyone crowded on a single universe for 3 months, and not once did we see this happen.

It's quite obviously an attack by Hackers. I'm betting that Sega won't stand for this for very long. Maybe they'll get some decent security?

[Zorafim]

On 2007-02-07 00:11, Shaidar wrote:
Woho. Maybe we'll see the playerbase spread out a bit more! And all PSOW people will start playing on Uni15! Or not..

As long as the bum don't crowd Uni15 and ruin it with their stupidity I don't mind a server crash every now and then. XD It happens. Although maybe ST should consider lowering the maximum amout of players on a server, or something like that?



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It's hard enough to find a party that I like. Having everyone spread out would make it even harder. I'd much rather having everyone in one place so I have a better chance of getting the party I want.

[Pure-chan]

...has it occured to anyone that ST may just be having an issue with their servers, like when the room server went down? It seems more likely than a hacker attack to me.

[HUnewearl_Meira]

At this point, I submit that it could be either wear on the servers or a hacker attack. Every time a universe went down, it had two and a half stars, which suggests to me that the third star may be that magical event that could have been crashing a worn out piece of hardware. I don't know what sort of system they're using, but I wouldn't be surprised to find out that the same servers once housed an iteration of Phantasy Star Online.

It's also entirely possible that a hacker with a port sniffer figured out the IPs and port numbers of individual universes, and started spamming them with useless data, to the end result of halting its ability to communicate to PSU clients. It's worth noting that if it WAS a hacker, then he was probably hanging out by one of those universe-hopping cubes in a fairly remote place, so he could see for himself which universe was becoming popular.

[Kirip-san]

I hope Sonic Team is taking notes on this issue to code the game more efficiently and not rely on Gameguard~nyo.

[rena-ko]

you mean, next time? >.>

[Kirip-san]

On 2007-02-07 12:48, rena-ko wrote:
you mean, next time? >.>


For the time being/next time/in the long run, etc~nyo.

[Randomness]

If someone was intentionally bringing down servers, isn't that a crime?

[Sinue_v2]

Yes, it is.

As for the servers acting wacky yesterday - here is a possible explanation. Apperantly there was a pretty massive and sophisticated Denial of Service attack on 3 of the key 13 root servers which pertty much manage the whole internet. Largest one since 2002. While none of the servers went down, they were "browned out" and basically unusable. Most people didn't notice, but it did cause quite a bit of slowdown for many users - as well as some server problems for some corperations. The attacks are thought to have originated in South Korea.

Universes have gone down before, for various reasons, but with the way they went down yesterday it seems likely to me that this is at least a plausable scenario.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6338261.stm

[Ryna]

On 2007-02-07 13:40, Sinue_v2 wrote:
Yes, it is.

As for the servers acting wacky yesterday - here is a possible explanation. Apperantly there was a pretty massive and sophisticated Denial of Service attack on 3 of the key 13 root servers which pertty much manage the whole internet. Largest one since 2002. While none of the servers went down, they were "browned out" and basically unusable. Most people didn't notice, but it did cause quite a bit of slowdown for many users - as well as some server problems for some corperations. The attacks are thought to have originated in South Korea.

Universes have gone down before, for various reasons, but with the way they went down yesterday it seems likely to me that this is at least a plausable scenario.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6338261.stm


The problem with this scenario is that the domain name server attacks happened several hours (10 to 12?) before the PSU servers started going down. Also, an attack on the domain name servers shouldn't have had the effects that were seen last night. If Sega or its users were having problems with domain names, the problem should have been apparent at logon time.

[Randomness]

On 2007-02-07 13:49, Ryna wrote:

On 2007-02-07 13:40, Sinue_v2 wrote:
Yes, it is.

As for the servers acting wacky yesterday - here is a possible explanation. Apperantly there was a pretty massive and sophisticated Denial of Service attack on 3 of the key 13 root servers which pertty much manage the whole internet. Largest one since 2002. While none of the servers went down, they were "browned out" and basically unusable. Most people didn't notice, but it did cause quite a bit of slowdown for many users - as well as some server problems for some corperations. The attacks are thought to have originated in South Korea.

Universes have gone down before, for various reasons, but with the way they went down yesterday it seems likely to me that this is at least a plausable scenario.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6338261.stm


The problem with this scenario is that the domain name server attacks happened several hours (10 to 12?) before the PSU servers started going down. Also, an attack on the domain name servers shouldn't have had the effects that were seen last night. If Sega or its users were having problems with domain names, the problem should have been apparent at logon time.



DNS wouldn't have affected online games at all, as they dont use domain names.

But if someone attacked the internet root servers, you can expect massive international retaliation.

Though, since you said it was fairly sophisticated, I'm going to assume there was a complex network of hacked computers that'll be a pain for invesitgators...

[Pinecone]

aww man again?! Uni 2 is down again http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

[Garnet_Moon]

Uni2 died once again just now. -_-

[_Vyser_]

w00t yet another uni crash!

[zanotam]

On 2007-02-06 21:53, Zorafim wrote:

On 2007-02-06 20:23, VanHalen wrote:
in away i feel this is getting really bad since people in this game will bitch and quit over the tiniest thing even if its funny. "arrgh too many people are going on one server and they are crashing" *quits PSU* now im worried




This is actually a pretty good reason to quit a game. If the servers can't hold the amount of people they're meant to hold, then something has to be wrong. The fact that servers that are meant to hold a certain amount of people are crashing when it's only 50% full means that something is wrong.



Whats sad is these servers hold as much as the Runescape servers, but they got like 130 of em or so AND the PSU servers are probably designed to hold oh around 3000 that or they're designe dto hold 1500 which would explain a lot as well. Basically ST doesn't know how to set up server clusters...its...sad...really...really...sad

[_Deliverance_]

orz

[Pinecone]

there goes 1 =_=

[Kamica]

On JP PSU, Room Severs crash atleast once a day. As for a universe crashing? It almost never happens. I would say that things will get ugly if ST does not get a fix.
Maybe things will restore on thursday maintanence?

[HUnewearl_Meira]

On 2007-02-07 12:20, Kirip-san wrote:
I hope Sonic Team is taking notes on this issue to code the game more efficiently and not rely on Gameguard~nyo.



If this is, indeed, a hacker attack, then it likely has very little to nothing to do with GameGuard. GameGuard defends the client software, not the server.

[Garnet_Moon]

loluni15

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/cottontail777/PSU/uni15dies738290.jpg