Questions about Giga/Skill PP Save

[Zorafim]

1) Gib

2) Offline, this lowers atp and I think ata by a noticeable amount. But I don't see it lowering stats in the item database. Is it just incomplete, or does the online skill save give no penalty to attack power?

[Eliash]

1) 0/14 so I can't

2) I don't think it decreases ata or atp online. Just increases bullet PA cost.

EDIT: I never get anything good from rappies...oh and I wonder who is going to say something about this...

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[Zorafim]

I got three BT lovers and four Rappy feathers. Recently, some rappies in mad creatures spawned, and they all dropped feathers.

Uncool.

[Eliash]

Found 2 today got 1600 meseta and a rappy feather. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

[Zorafim]

Makes me wonder what the drop rate of these are.

[Eliash]

I think the worst I heard was something like 0/42 or so...

I'm going to protest outside LL on Uni 1 if I don't get one soon...

[BLACKR0SE]

I hear they dont drop on LL.I got mine on Mizuraki S.I hear the rappies on LL S are too low a lvl.

[Eliash]

From my understanding they drop off of any 50+ rappies, the monsters in LL are just above 50 (55) so they should drop it.

It's just a rare drop rate. Mad Creatures S is better to farm for the unit because the spawn there is 4 rappies.

[BLACKR0SE]

I would rather farm FFF S.Because atleast they are a higher lvl which means you dont have to pray that it drops.

[Eliash]

I'm not sure how much of a difference the level makes, but it would probably be better there if it does make a decent difference.

[BLACKR0SE]

I think it is pretty big.

[omegapirate2k]

All I can say about this unit is that I know the only guy on the 360 with one in his shop. He lent me money for my hardline http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Meep]

http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic=132588&forum=20&start=45

Skill save does not decrease atp, only down side is it doubles bullet costs.

The slot can drop off any Rappy, level 50 and over. Keep trying if you really want one. Make extra effort on good luck days, it effects drops. Got one myself in mad creatures, it is possible.

Good luck =)

[Kimil]

One question, Whats the point of this item... when im on the PS2/PC servers, where Photon charges = 500 haxetta means nothing to my. I'd rather get a power increasing unit thank you very much >.>

[Magician]

Been farming for this over on mad creatures s, 0/20 at the moment.

8 feathers, 8 meseta, 4 nada.

[Magician]

On 2007-02-19 00:26, Kimil wrote:
One question, Whats the point of this item... when im on the PS2/PC servers, where Photon charges = 500 haxetta means nothing to my. I'd rather get a power increasing unit thank you very much >.>



The Hard / Power Charge only adds about 20pts of damage per attack, at the cost of 1/3 more PP off your PA; not really worth it. While the Giga / Skill PP save cuts your melee PP usage by a 1/4, and without the Mega / Power you're doing 10pts of damage less but you're using your PAs much more.

Giga / Skill PP Save, ftw.



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[Xeph0n]

Hard/Power Charge makes you use 50% extra pp, and the damage is about 50-80 more per hit on PAs, its useful when in big parties, but when in small parties youll find yourself running out of pp quickly. Problem with the giga skill is your bullet pp costs will skyrocket and youll get no damage bonus. I guess both have their drawbacks. Id say a Hard/Power is useful for a cast/human looking to get nearer to the power of a beast.

[Shiro_Ryuu]

On 2007-02-18 16:58, Eliash wrote:
1) 0/14 so I can't

2) I don't think it decreases ata or atp online. Just increases bullet PA cost.

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O RLY? sweet, I totally want that for my fortefighter[s] now, awesome that it doesn't lower ATP.

[Zorafim]

On 2007-02-19 04:16, Xeph0n wrote:
Problem with the giga skill is your bullet pp costs will skyrocket and youll get no damage bonus.


Yes, bullet costs do skyrocket. So, instead of using 50 pp per mission on my handgun, I'll use 100 pp. Comparing that to a larger amount of skillups and lasting longer in a mission, I'd say that's well worth it.

[BLACKR0SE]

I had one.Basically if your a hybrid you get Fortefighters ability plus your own fast regen.

[Magician]

0/28

This is really quite unnerving, it's leading me to believe that the level 50+ is bs, and that 60+ rappies are necessary to find this thing.

Edit: Make that 0/32

Yeeeeesh...



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[Magician]

0/36

This hunt is making my soul cry.

[RadiantLegend]

Saw one drop in Denes relic S. It only had 2 rappies too.

[Magician]

On 2007-02-22 05:16, Ragolismine wrote:
Saw one drop in Denes relic S. It only had 2 rappies too.



What's the creature level there?

At any rate, I'm gonna switch over to Sleeping Warriors S if I cross 0/50. May as well double up and see both rappies and an orgdus.

[RadiantLegend]

85+ mobs

[Midicronica]

This totally has nothing to do with Giga/Skill PP Save, but similar.. Sorry, guys..

HAve any of you seen Giga/Bullet PP Save drop from Jaggo's in VoC S?

[Magician]

On 2007-02-22 05:30, Ragolismine wrote:
85+ mobs



Wooooooo, no wonder it dropped there; I couldn't handle that solo. Bah, I'm not waiting, sleeping warriors...here I come. *sigh*

[Shiro_Ryuu]

On 2007-02-19 08:57, Zorafim wrote:

On 2007-02-19 04:16, Xeph0n wrote:
Problem with the giga skill is your bullet pp costs will skyrocket and youll get no damage bonus.


Yes, bullet costs do skyrocket. So, instead of using 50 pp per mission on my handgun, I'll use 100 pp. Comparing that to a larger amount of skillups and lasting longer in a mission, I'd say that's well worth it.



exactly, isn't giga / pp skill save mostly for Fortefighters? we mostly use our guns on things like flying enemies and tengohgs, but other than that, were mostly gonna be destroying this with our blade PAs. I think this is just really awesome, you guys now make me want to have one.

[Meep]

How many times do I have to link my old thread!! I already did it once in this thread and people STILL jumping to false conclusions!!

HERE'S PROOF SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE THE TIME TO CLICK MY PREVIOUS LINK!! IF YOU LIKE WHAT YOU SEE, GO TO THE OLD THREAD FOR DETAILS!!

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h43/zxcv-zxcv/WIN.jpg

Sorry for the caps, but it was already linked in some way before and people still not getting it http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

Level 50 rappies on mad creatures. Any 50+ normal rappy can drop it. Try harder on good luck days for better drops. If you KNOW it's a 0% chance of being a rappy stage, just abandon, not complete the whole stage. Saves a ton of time.

It's a very useful slot item, I use it as my Figunner. Took me a lot of effort to figure it out, and others helped. Like to see that effort go to good use =)

[Magician]

On 2007-02-22 20:56, Meep wrote:
HERE'S PROOF SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE THE TIME TO CLICK MY PREVIOUS LINK!! IF YOU LIKE WHAT YOU SEE, GO TO THE OLD THREAD FOR DETAILS!!

So angry, so full of angst. Hehe.

But thanks none the less.

[Zorafim]

I still wonder if this is the easiest way to get it, though. Many people have gone through many rare spawns just to find them, and even after finding them have got no reward. Would higher level rappies have a higher chance of giving us this item? If so, would we be better off looking for those rappies?

[Akaimizu]

I think so. The way these various PP saves are selling. That is, in terms of cost. I can actually find one myself faster than I can make the money to buy it off them. Kind of a shame, because in order for it to be worth buying, you have to have all that money already. However, if you don't, you'll probably get it before you can afford it. It's kind of a catch 22 for people who do get it to sell it. They may get lucky and find a buyer, though.