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haterade
12-04-2002, 09:40 AM
Claws - the most God-AWFUL weapon in PSO. Sure, the first two hits are okay, but the horrible time between then second and the third hit is unbearable! Even if you use a normal/hard/hard combo, you STILL have a high chance of getting bitch slapped to the floor!

Slicers - Can hit multiple times, but are so weak that you'll be swinging that b!tch many-a-time before you make a kill. Are these things even stronger than Vulcans?!

What else is there?

DirewolfX
12-04-2002, 09:50 AM
All of the weapons are good--it's just a matter of learning how to use them. Slicers wreak havoc against bosses with multiple hit locations. Sure you can hit the dragon for 200-ish damage... but I can hit him five times for 100 damage in one attack. And they're also pretty good against mobs of enemies... especially gillchics and canabine/canune groups.

I'd have to agree that claws are pretty difficult to use, but I'm sure someone could figure out a way to make good use of them... especially since some of them have quite high ATP (Gigobooma's claw is even stronger than my Yamato).

Personally, I don't like Mechguns... I find the recovery time is way too long... but some people swear by them.

So I'd have to conclude there is no worst weapon in PSO.

Vol_Opt
12-04-2002, 10:20 AM
.. Bzzt..

.. Weapon analysis complete.. For actual combat.. Wands are worst.. For overall uselessness.. Canes are worst..

Phobos-X
12-04-2002, 10:22 AM
On 2002-12-04 07:50, DirewolfX wrote:

So I'd have to conclude there is no worst weapon in PSO.


ever try using a cane, wand, or rod? It may seem that im on a "i hate everything abour forces rant" but these weapons truly suck...well the only somewhat useful one would be the wand type weapons for the extra MST boost when learning high level techs but suck in actual combat

Jae
12-04-2002, 10:23 AM
The normal slicers suck, but if you get one of the higher tier slicers they're not so bad. Like wolfX said, they're great against bosses. The Red Slicer is my weapon of choice against De Rol Le (and his variants).

Mechguns are sweet one-on-one weaps. Each individual hit doesn't do that much damage, but it really adds up when all nine hits connect. Get a strong mech with high hit% and you'll be able to pull off weak-strong-strong combo with ease. The recovery time IS long, but the strong hits push back or stun most enemies.

Claws... well I don't like them. Third hit is just too slow. Maybe God/Battle would help?

I don't really like sabers either. Even if the saber is strong, it usually doesn't have as much push back or stun quality as a sword or partisian. Heck even daggers and handguns have better stun capability.

Knuckles... did ST really think that people would use this weapon type? They're more for comic relief than anything else IMO. They have short range for most characters, but are fast and powerful. Even still, I couldn't justify using one.

Ghen
12-04-2002, 10:34 AM
Claws, if only limited to first two hits (say, weak/hard) can be excellent. I find that they work well for people who like to one on one. I had a Silence Claw on the DC that was 0/0/30/30/50 that kicked all kinds of ass. Throw in a god/battle and you're golden.

haterade
12-04-2002, 10:41 AM
Hmmm... so I may have been hasty about the slicers... I may just have to try my Rappy's fan again and see how that goes against a boss...

Oh, I also forgot to add mechguns... probably one of the worst weapons without a God/Battle... by the way, is a Devil/Battle one level under a God/Battle? General/Battles don't do f*** al in my opinion

Elusive_Llama
12-04-2002, 10:43 AM
I'll confine my opinion to Hunter weapons...

It depends on the situation. If you're fighting one enemy (ie. delsaber), then a slicer would suck the big one whereas your daggers or doublesaber would make short work of him. Saber-type weapons come in second-best in single combat. A partisan or sword would also work but they don't hit as fast as daggers/doublesabers/sabers. Claws are good only for the first 2 hits. Twin swords do excellent damage but they're a bit slow. My personal preferences are daggers and doublesabers because of the attack speed and the mobility they give you.

If you're fighting several enemies that are clustered close (dimenians, sharks), a dagger or doublesaber wouldn't be good because you will get smacked but a partisan or sword would be best.

If you're fighting multiple enemies which are at a distance (claws, canadines), then a slicer is the way to go. Slicers are generally considered crappy but I consider them to be the 'shot-weapons' of the Hunter world because they hit so many enemies from a distance. I use my Rappy Fan +22 against gil/dubchics because it knocks most of them down due to its range, and the 2nd projectile can hit them when they're prone. Try doing that with a partisan/sword...you'll hit only the ones within reach, and your second swing often misses some of them when they're lying on the ground. The Rappy Fan is also great for ensuring I get some exp from all monsters in online games. My Rappy Fan is also exceptionally good vs the Dragon, De Rol Le, and certain parts of Vol Opt. I haven't actually used it against Dark Falz yet, but I might try it to see how it does. Plus the feathers it throws up with every hit is also nice http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

In summary, the worst weapons in PSO are the ones you're using that don't fit the combat situation you're in. I don't really like claws mostly due to that 3rd hit in the combo...but some people use it for looks and ATP power. Slicers have a bad rep for some reason, but they're actually very good if you know how to use them. They're just not 'prestige' weapons, I guess.

DirewolfX
12-04-2002, 11:00 AM
ever try using a cane, wand, or rod? It may seem that im on a "i hate everything abour forces rant" but these weapons truly suck...well the only somewhat useful one would be the wand type weapons for the extra MST boost when learning high level techs but suck in actual combat


Canes are basicly the same as sabers, only weaker and easier for a FO to equip. Rods are somewhat similar. They're not meant to be on par with the HU weapons in damage-dealing capability--their advantage is that FOs can equip them more easily.

Of course, FOs should be using magic... and because of that, I find that wands are awesome weapons... simply because they boost your MST. Not just for learning techs, but it also gives you a little edge in combat. Admittedly, it's not much at the higher levels... but by then you'll be using the rare Canes and Wands...

And the rare Canes and Wands own all. There are three of each, one for each of the three basic magic elements (fire, ice and lightning). The Cane-types give a boost of +30% or so to the weak attack of that type (i.e. Club of Laconium gives +30% to Foie, etc.). The Wand-types gives a boost of 10-20% to all spells of that type (i.e. Ice Staff: Dagon gives +10% or so damage to Barta, Gibarta and Rabarta)... not to mention they also give a sizable boost to MST.

Alena Zouryx
12-04-2002, 11:24 AM
As a FOmarl myself, I can honestly say that the FO weapons are not great for their strength, but their abilities.

As was said before, the rare versions of these weapons boost the strength of specific spells and mst. However, all of you have missed a very important part about these weapons.

The cane-type weapon also increases evasion. This is very useful when just starting out in the game, and its very hard to use nothing but techs due to a lack of MST.

The rod-type weapon increases defense. I particularly favor this weapon because of this reason. It has great range (when used by the FOmarl), keeping you out of harm's way, and the defense boost is very significant when fighting bosses. I always make sure to equip a rod just before De Rol Le, to make sure that his physical attacks won't kill me. And the defense boost is quite significant -- it reduced De Rol Le's tentacle attack from a fatal blow to only half the damage.

The wand-type weapons increase mental strength and battle speed. They are weak, but they are fast, and the MST boost is amazing if you are focused on nothing but tech skills.

But the FO weapons shouldn't be rated according to their strength, since the main weapon of the FO should be techs. In reality, the FO-class weapons are more like a third shield, or fifth unit.

Shrevn
12-04-2002, 11:39 AM
Like that dude said theres a weapon type for everytype. I love Sabers and Mecks but since i dont have a good saber im using a DEMO and i hate it... but im not complainin then again whenever i need to use a gun just look at my pick and you know what i use!

RagMasterRappy
12-04-2002, 11:50 AM
The slicer type weapons seem to work well for Rangers. That Rappy Fan does a lot of damage. The only thing that I don't like about them is how you move forward when you're using it.. I know this is the case for most weapons, but it's annoying to have to move back slightly to retarget the monsters..

JordanLund
12-04-2002, 11:51 AM
Man, I HATE Mechguns. Assaults and Vulcans are OK, but Mechguns blow.

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Deathkiller
12-04-2002, 11:54 AM
Someone has DEFFINETLY forgot our little freind earned in a certain ultimate mode quest... The Lazer Beam! Ah yes! It shot a SINGLE blast of ZONDE level 1... I don't even think it was level 1... And then there was the GREAT Panzer Faust which made RA FOIE- LIKE explosions but only ACTUALLY damaged ONE target at a TIME... and didn't do anything but simple fire damage -_- both had a SLOW shotgun/bazooka firing rate and were useless, even in Normal Mode!

And if that wasn't pointless enough, the Boquet takes the cake! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif But at least it made me look like i'd been stood up for a date...

Zae
12-04-2002, 01:51 PM
Sorry you guys but the worst weapon in the game is my peace of crap +42 Mushais I hate them with there +25% to native and a beast
Dang they Suck
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TedEdFred
12-04-2002, 03:57 PM
I finally got to equip grass assasin blades yesterday and I hate them.

ROD type weapons were made for FOnewms. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Wewt
12-04-2002, 06:15 PM
S Rank Punch was the worst weapon, especially without a battle unit.

Sapphire87
12-04-2002, 06:16 PM
I dislike any weapon that doesn't allow you to do any combos. For example: Belra's Cannon, Rocket Punch, Sigh of God, etc. It wouldn't be so bad if these types of weapons were super powerful, but they're not.

DJ_Monkey
12-04-2002, 06:33 PM
Worst weapon in the game: Your hands/legs. Not having a weapon equipped is probably worse than having any other weapon on, even if the weapon is a lousy Mechgun.

Whatley
12-04-2002, 09:05 PM
I think the worst weapons are the rare ones that I can't use for my class.

MajinSSJVegetto
12-04-2002, 10:17 PM
Photon Launchers and Shotguns.

While they seem fairly powerful and all, they are horrible.

The photon launchers (like Guilty Light) are slow, powerful weapons. They also can hit multiple enemies. The shot goes through enemeies and keeps hurting anything behind the first target.

The shotguns (crush bullet, final impact...) seem pretty good. Low dmg, but it hits 5 enemies on each shot.

Both of these weapons let you do dmg to quiet a lot of enemies and seem rather powerful, and for this many people use this.

This is why I think they are VERY bad. People think they are good, and use them for that.

These two kinds of weapons are so slow. I had been using them untill L80 on my RAmarl.

I was getting very tired of the ultra slow firing rate and the fact that 2 seconds after enemies where dead, I was still not done with the stupid animation.
This caused my character to get wacked so many times, and loose rares to team mates.

I switched to a varista for fun, and realized that even though my damage was lower, I could run around, dodge, and actually combat the enemies. I could FIGHT. I soon got a Justy from a friend and then leveled to L98 in half the time it had taken me to go from L70 to L80. I am also finding more rares because I am not stuck in the pathetic animations, and I don't see myself using resta every 10 seconds.

In short, these weapons fool people. They make you think you are good, while taking away all dodging ability.

Slicers are ok, but I don't think they are great.

I also have never seen how people can possibly like mechguns.

_xX_Frosty_Xx_
12-04-2002, 10:22 PM
...............DAGGERS. I'm ORAN.......and I hate daggers. Weak damage majority of the time and I'm not really too happy with the combo either......

Maelkith
12-04-2002, 10:35 PM
rifles are awful. when i play ranger i find handguns are better. targeting area with a rifle is narrower than a handgun. there is very little improvement in power over a handgun. longer recovery time than handgun. these guns make you look like a ranger, but you feel like a corpse. i hate rifles.

Blademaster
12-05-2002, 06:43 AM
I think the worst weopan would be...Mechguns

You'd have to PRETTy far away to kil someone with that because the recov. time is very long and by then they could mob you before you could get a shot off.

Brundidge
12-05-2002, 09:52 AM
I don't really think there is a worst pso weapon. I usually play with weapons I like and/or take advantage of their abilities. But I do hate the recovery time of the mechgun series and how you move forward in the slicer animations. And the ending animation after the 3rd hit for a HUcaseal I hate that.

Alena Zouryx
12-05-2002, 11:24 AM
In my opinion, Daggers are the most useful Hunter weapon. It may appear like they don't do much damage, but I use them with my HUnewearl, and the hit six times for 3/4 the damage of a saber - this means that after all six hits connect, the Daggers have done 1/2 more damage than the saber. Plus the multiple hits keeps enemies away. Sweet.

And as was said before, there is no "worst weapon". It all depends on the situation that you're in. There is no one weapon that can work wonders in every situation. (Except the Double Saber is quite nice with my FOmarl, since techs make up for the close-range needed)

Khaotika
12-05-2002, 04:28 PM
*cough*

Flame Visit (aka ASS GUN) - Worthless

Photon Launcher/Guilty Light - Gets you killed.

Claws of any type - See also Photon/Guilty

Berla Cannon - Whole load of ass

Maser Beam - Gigantic whole load of ass

Broom - Fun. XD

-Khao

AzureBlaze
12-05-2002, 11:15 PM
Ah, yes, the Maser Beam.
I remember running through TTF to grab one for my RAmar before finding out what rot it was. I wonder if this wacky sattleite dish looking thing is still present in the game? But by far, it had to be worse then any claw, slow mech, or "fun" invisible 'fist/hand' weapon that you can't even see/show off. It was even worse then clubs/canes or non-combo-ing FO weps, because at least forces would eventually be able to kill things with them. I couldn't even kill H mode Goboomas with it when I was level 125 with my RAmar. I never had the misfortune of finding/having someone hack me a Panzer Faust though.

Also: The Baranz Launcher. Anyone else think this wasn't so hot? It was a whopper of a gun (looked a bit like lugging a jet-ski around) but for all the big flashy missiles, the damage and speed were WAY below that of the actual Garanz/Baranz enemy who dropped it.

WraithAkaMrak
12-06-2002, 01:00 AM
I really like Mechgun class weapons for my HUmar. I'm sure the lower-level ones are pretty crappy to begin with. But once you get into the ones with decent power, they're great for doing a lot of damage. You get used to the delay.

I really don't care for slicers at all. I probably haven't given them enough of a chance, and I haven't used any high-level ones. But they're still on the bottom of my list.

Tsudo_Plat
01-21-2004, 08:25 PM
On 2002-12-04 20:17, MajinSSJVegetto wrote:
Photon Launchers and Shotguns.

While they seem fairly powerful and all, they are horrible.

The photon launchers (like Guilty Light) are slow, powerful weapons. They also can hit multiple enemies. The shot goes through enemeies and keeps hurting anything behind the first target.

The shotguns (crush bullet, final impact...) seem pretty good. Low dmg, but it hits 5 enemies on each shot.

Both of these weapons let you do dmg to quiet a lot of enemies and seem rather powerful, and for this many people use this.

This is why I think they are VERY bad. People think they are good, and use them for that.

These two kinds of weapons are so slow. I had been using them untill L80 on my RAmarl.

I was getting very tired of the ultra slow firing rate and the fact that 2 seconds after enemies where dead, I was still not done with the stupid animation.
This caused my character to get wacked so many times, and loose rares to team mates.

I switched to a varista for fun, and realized that even though my damage was lower, I could run around, dodge, and actually combat the enemies. I could FIGHT. I soon got a Justy from a friend and then leveled to L98 in half the time it had taken me to go from L70 to L80. I am also finding more rares because I am not stuck in the pathetic animations, and I don't see myself using resta every 10 seconds.

In short, these weapons fool people. They make you think you are good, while taking away all dodging ability.

Slicers are ok, but I don't think they are great.

I also have never seen how people can possibly like mechguns.



Have you tried using something that boosts your speed? Ever tried using a shot with a devil/battle? Trust me it freaking ownz j00 and every other enemy. If hildelts weren't so stingy I'd use a god/battle, now that would rock!

So, I'm gonna re-state what most ppl have been saying, there aren't really any crappy types of weapons, well.... except fists, those suck wang.

navci
01-21-2004, 08:42 PM
On 2004-01-21 18:25, Tsudo_Plat wrote:

On 2002-12-04 20:17, MajinSSJVegetto wrote:
Photon Launchers and Shotguns.
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