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DonMakaveli
Mar 22, 2007, 10:12 AM
Please help me.. im an addict.. yes.. its true.... im a grinder addicted and im so scared.. if A grinders come out with the update, i can't help it, i know im gonna try to grind my degahna cannon +10, and i know im gonna break it.. +9 ISNT ENOUGH!!!!!!!!..
im so scared plz help me, put me in reab!!! LOL

Dj_SkyEpic
Mar 22, 2007, 10:14 AM
I will be just like you............

Miyoko
Mar 22, 2007, 10:15 AM
If you don't want it to break, you can give it to me ... Um, for er, safe keeping!... http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Akaimizu
Mar 22, 2007, 10:17 AM
My threshold of tolerance isn't so great. I've never grinded anything past 4 times, as I usually get super scared past that. I've broken quite a few things trying to get to 4, much less past 4, and I've never been in the money to easily say I could risk losing it.

DonMakaveli
Mar 22, 2007, 10:18 AM
miyoko ok, but u gotta clean my room plz, i gotta sleep outside already cuz theres cast female parts all over my room ;X Lolol

Rashiid
Mar 22, 2007, 10:20 AM
dont.

dont do it man.

just dont.

that cannon is wayy too kool to think about power.

Ami~
Mar 22, 2007, 10:24 AM
My addiction to grinding started the other day and I can't stop..it's like you want to stop for every time you fail, but you just gotta keep going! I must have gone through 40+ w'gacros until I finally got one at +10! A part of me died that day, too. and ever since then i've been dying to grind the rest of my weapons for my alts. :D...



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Ami_ on 2007-03-22 08:25 ]</font>

Rashiid
Mar 22, 2007, 10:26 AM
but...somthin as rare as this cannon? heewwww NNOOOO!!

FUFME
Mar 22, 2007, 10:26 AM
No way am I gonna grind my 9* Sabers. I got a few and lucky enough with the Element %

JAFO22000
Mar 22, 2007, 10:27 AM
"Rare weapon" has a different meaning on the PC/PS2 servers (NOT a bash on you guys).

Tiyr
Mar 22, 2007, 10:27 AM
I only use A-Rank weapons because if I didn't, I'd grind everything I had until it broke (like I did with my 5*s back in the day...I had one set of twin daggers to my name).

A day or so after A-grinders are released, I'm sure I'll have the gear of a level twenty. Except for my armor.

Rashiid
Mar 22, 2007, 10:32 AM
o0o0oo0 yeahh...thats true....hehe http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif (not bashing)

well, as for the 360, id never grind that thing!!

Miyoko
Mar 22, 2007, 10:35 AM
Cast female parts everywhere?... Uhm, being a maid and all, I'm fine with cleaning someone's room, but... Why are there cast parts everywhere...? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

DonMakaveli
Mar 22, 2007, 10:39 AM
i'll give u a tip.. im a male cast.. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_mad.gif (no and the female parts are not mine http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_mad.gif).. anyway JUST THINK THINK A DEGAHNA CANNON +10 OMFGGGGG

Miyoko
Mar 22, 2007, 10:41 AM
... Maybe you got curious and felt like trying them on one day?... Some guys like to feel feminine sometimes, atl east for curiosities sake!... http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

_Deliverance_
Mar 22, 2007, 10:44 AM
On 2007-03-22 08:27, JAFO22000 wrote:
"Rare weapon" has a different meaning on the PC/PS2 servers (NOT a bash on you guys).



Deghanna cannon is rare on our servers too. You know that you need a rare drop to make it, right? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

JAFO22000
Mar 22, 2007, 10:53 AM
On 2007-03-22 08:44, _Deliverance_ wrote:

On 2007-03-22 08:27, JAFO22000 wrote:
"Rare weapon" has a different meaning on the PC/PS2 servers (NOT a bash on you guys).



Deghanna cannon is rare on our servers too. You know that you need a rare drop to make it, right? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif



I did not know this. Two rare items are needed to synth the Kohibumiteri and they are a pretty common scripted item, right? I just assumed this logic was the same for the Deghanna Cannon as well.

DonMakaveli
Mar 22, 2007, 11:03 AM
miyoko muhahahaha nah not my type http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_mad.gif and yeh degahna is hard to find.. i had to trade a 30% ice vahra claws for it (got no use for those)

Miyoko
Mar 22, 2007, 11:07 AM
Wow, a 6-post! ;p

Well, perhaps we can discuss me cleaning your room at a later ate, cast-parts or no.. In the meantime, I need sleep. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

DonMakaveli
Mar 22, 2007, 11:08 AM
muhahaha alright (im deletin 'em now, this damn net just lagged)

Retehi
Mar 22, 2007, 11:14 AM
On 2007-03-22 08:53, JAFO22000 wrote:

I did not know this. Two rare items are needed to synth the Kohibumiteri and they are a pretty common scripted item, right? I just assumed this logic was the same for the Deghanna Cannon as well.



Umm, no.

DonMakaveli
Mar 22, 2007, 11:17 AM
Retehi help me bro, since ur sig looks like an addict!!! u gotta help me on this one!! im already seeing me smokin a cigarrete for each time i grind, till it breaks and i choke with my own smoke!

JAFO22000
Mar 22, 2007, 11:19 AM
On 2007-03-22 09:14, Retehi wrote:

On 2007-03-22 08:53, JAFO22000 wrote:

I did not know this. Two rare items are needed to synth the Kohibumiteri and they are a pretty common scripted item, right? I just assumed this logic was the same for the Deghanna Cannon as well.



Umm, no.



Can I ask what you are saying "no" about? Is it my logic or the fact that the Kohibumiteri is not a common scripted item?

Retehi
Mar 22, 2007, 11:21 AM
Both counts there kiddo.

DonMakaveli
Mar 22, 2007, 11:21 AM
he's saying that the logic is not the same http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_mad.gif

JAFO22000
Mar 22, 2007, 11:32 AM
On 2007-03-22 09:21, Retehi wrote:
Both counts there kiddo.



But, I read someone post here that they had 2 of these bows in their inventory at one time...that would lead me to believe that they were not "rare" and, in fact, quite common amongst the community who accepted such weapons. As for my logic, it's follows if the above is true.

sakodea
Mar 26, 2007, 11:10 PM
lol can we say off subject? lol (not bashin either) http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Mayu
Mar 26, 2007, 11:14 PM
On 2007-03-22 08:14, Dj_SkyEpic wrote:
I will be just like you............

ljkkjlcm9
Mar 26, 2007, 11:19 PM
as a fighgunner, I won't stop until I have every 9* grinded to 10 for my ranged weaponry

THE JACKEL

DoubleZero
Mar 27, 2007, 12:28 AM
I hate grinding in PSU. I'm not a big fan of leaving things up to dumb luck when it comes to my weapons and armor. I've broken Kubara weapons on the first non-guaranteed grind, and it just feels awful. I had some luck, some good grinders, and a "Very High" chance to succeed and they still broke. It's disheartening.

I don't know how people are going to grind the Agito Repca (because it's worthless unground). Considering it's 12* rarity, it's probably got an abysmally low synth rate (Single Digits?), and needs a ton of rare synth materials to make. And then it needs to be ground up to be useful. That's an exponentially monumental risk!

The only time I'm ever grinding now, is having two of the same item and grinding each one by one simultaneously until one breaks. That way, should one violently explode I'm still well off with another ground as far as it makes it.



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: DoubleZero on 2007-03-26 22:30 ]</font>

Ffuzzy-Logik
Mar 27, 2007, 12:48 AM
Actually, most high-level rare weapons seem to have abnormally high synth chances (Halarod is somewhere in the 70s, whereas the 9* rod is 49%; Halp Serafi seems to have a 100% base synth chance; I'm sure there will be more examples).


Regardless, you are correct in stating that it will most likely be difficult to grind it. However, keep in mind, we do not know any online grinding stats for S-ranks. It could possibly turn out that grinding S-ranks has a notably higher success rate than other weapons. Honestly, this would not surprise me too much.

Garanz-Baranz
Mar 27, 2007, 06:41 AM
On 2007-03-22 09:32, JAFO22000 wrote:

On 2007-03-22 09:21, Retehi wrote:
Both counts there kiddo.



But, I read someone post here that they had 2 of these bows in their inventory at one time...that would lead me to believe that they were not "rare" and, in fact, quite common amongst the community who accepted such weapons. As for my logic, it's follows if the above is true.


The Kohbumiteri[sp?] is a 10* bow, only findable on the Valentines Day event, from Lv80+ Rappy Amure. Being a S-grade weapon, it requires S-grade mats, iirc. Love Note, also a drop only off the Rappy Amure, is a nessessary item to synth the so-called 'Love Bow'. All that togeather makes it pretty damn rare...

Degahna Cannon is also a big rare horde...
1- In needs 15, count 'em, 15 Rubinad, a 7* rare Synth Mat.
2- The Adahna Cannon is hard enough as a drop, but oinly 1 is needed.
3- the Board itself only drops on Grove of Fanatics S, and only off the Boss really...

But, Degahna Cannon can be found all year round, not In a 2-3 week period... And the synth rats are quite damn annoying...

SEGA's Synth Rate crap really pissed meoffwhen I failed 2 Aksucs, and a Twin Crea Saber...

MayLee
Mar 27, 2007, 06:47 AM
Do it.

You know you want to..>.>

LAWL. Kidding..=

omegapirate2k
Mar 27, 2007, 07:31 AM
On 2007-03-26 22:48, Ffuzzy-Logik wrote:
Actually, most high-level rare weapons seem to have abnormally high synth chances (Halarod is somewhere in the 70s, whereas the 9* rod is 49%; Halp Serafi seems to have a 100% base synth chance;


Is that so? Getting a blackheart shouldn't be too hard then, hm?

Mystil
Mar 27, 2007, 07:35 AM
Grinding A ranks is financle suicide. Have fun!

sakodea
Mar 27, 2007, 09:48 AM
i just got some last surviors and rayrators to lvl 10 they own now better then most A class daggers i grinded 3 last survivors and 2 rayrators. (i think thats how u spell it) i had +9 b grinders and lower ones to start the beginning up

hans4
Mar 27, 2007, 09:54 AM
give em to me so u wont grind em :0

Vay
Mar 27, 2007, 03:37 PM
All my weapons are hacked, all my friends' weapons are hacked, and all of THEIR friends' weapons are hacked. I play PC/PS2, and it's a way of life. I even hacked a 1* Saber just because I could. [/sarcasm]

Rares are just as rare on PC/PS2 as they are on XBox360 if you actually go out and hunt instead of buybuybuy. (I prefer the hunt method). Been looking for a Crea Doubles for a long while now for my fighgunner friend, still haven't seen a board drop! Back on topic...

I have the same problem as you, Don, lol. I broke 40+ 5* Canes just trying to get one to +10. I am damn stubborn, and even if it breaks me I will get what I'm after... so yeah, you can count on me, like DJ, to go just about bankrupt when A Grinder boards come out.

One word: gunzzzz.