Perverts making excuses

[MaximusLight]

Example:

http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=140710&forum=9&125


You're all just creepy, paying as a girl as an alt is one thing but WTHeck!?! You're trying to justify it socially!? YOU FAIL! I mean I intend to make a female character eventually for story purposes but seriously, all you guys that play girls for the sake of looking at pixelated ass are just sad. And seriously at least ADMIT TO BEING A PREVERTED GUY, YOU'RE NOT FOOLING ANYONE BY TRYING TO JUSTIFY IT, I at least have some respect for the people that admit to it, but closet preverts WTF!?!

*gasps for air*

Ok I'm so glad I said, helpsget the rage out and all, sheeze, when will they ever (if possible) learn.

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_nono.gif

[Tay]

I don't know whats worse. Playing as a girl because they think it's hot, or "intend to make a female character eventually for story purposes"

Screen caps are deep maaan.

[Sychosis]

I prefer to look at her face:

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s302/Sychosis777/ItsaMe.jpg

[DikkyRay]

Che- er "Orange" Can't get any ass IRL so he has to make up for it by making a videogame chick

[Daikarin]

Saying that "Some boys infact, play better girls than some other girls" is a bit too much for someone without some closet gender issues.

But calling them perverts? Hell no. That's the way they are, let them have fun with their role-playing and attempt to reason people with their psychological details.


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[Weak]

^____^ I palay garl char cus its fun and sexxy ann i feel liek im a girl 2 hee hee


The guy characters in this game aren't very cool looking at all in my opinion, less so than the girls. I made a female character because I wanted to, and I openly tell everybody I'm a guy.

If you still think I'm "sad" or "a pervert", then I have some choice words for you, sir.

[Sinue_v2]

Eh, I'll fully admit to being a pervert. In fact, I'm currently downloading like 50 gig of animated pornography. Really though, everyone is a pervert. It may not always show on the outside, and you yourself might not even be aware of it, but it's there.

As for playing a girl character, all of my characters are girls. Why... because they look better than the male characters. I don't see what's so wrong with that though. I wouldn't fap to them - I mean, if you're that hard up then there's nudies bars and singles bars a plenty where you could see the real thing (to say the least)... but they're still cute.

The roleplaying context I do have a bit of trouble with though... I can't "get into" a female role and play it convincingly. I've always seen my girls with sort of a "harem" view, if that makes any sence. I play with them, I don't try to become them. The few times I did try to role play (feebely trying to inject a little PS into my PSU) were just horribly awkward and got increadibly stupid - not to mention the inevitable "romance" always tends to crop up and I bail. RP or not, I don't roll that way.

[MaximusLight]

On 2007-04-26 13:45, Tay wrote:
I don't know whats worse. Playing as a girl because they think it's hot, or "intend to make a female character eventually for story purposes"

Screen caps are deep maaan.



What? It's hard to include pictures of a female character without the female character.

[CrimsomWolf]

Playing as female character does not mean you are a perv....
For example someone that plays a male can behave like real perv and asshole...., while someone playing as female can behave totally different (i.e in largely accepted "proper" way)

I think that it's more about behavior of people online ect. then gender of their character

[MaximusLight]

On 2007-04-26 14:42, CrimsomWolf wrote:
Playing as female character does not mean you are a perv....
For example someone that plays a male can behave like real perv and asshole...., while someone playing as female can behave totally different (i.e in largely accepted "proper" way)

I think that it's more about behavior of people online ect. then gender of their character



I know that, I just don't like people trying to act like they are some super giddy and flirty girl when they are a guy, I mean if they are just roleplay ya, but seriously I want them to be themselves rather than trying to get meseta off of people :/

Also to the people that admitting to being a prev I appectate the honesty, and to the guy that said we are all pervents: you're wrong we all aren't, we all look by instinict but your actions determine if you're a prev or not, like making a female character so you can look at her ass, THAT is preverted.

[Sychosis]

like making a female character so you can look at her ass, THAT is preverted.




we all look by instinict

What?

[MaximusLight]

On 2007-04-26 14:57, Sychosis wrote:

like making a female character so you can look at her ass, THAT is preverted.




we all look by instinict

What?



If you're going to quote me at least do it in context otherwise I'm just giong to ignore you.

[Sinue_v2]

He just proved my point.

You just don't know it yet...

[SolomonGrundy]

*humps this threads legs*

[VanHalen]

Well I'd make a female character but I remember that last time >_>. I don't mind what reason you made the character for but the loli thing and saying "I made this character to look at something http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif " then theres something wrong lol.

[Midicronica]

Heh, I made my two female characters for a very stupid reason. Back when the game started, you didn't see many Caseals, so I made one. There's still not many of them on the X360 servers. The same goes with my female beast, well... >_> I just thing femme beasts are hot.

[CupOfCoffee]

The thing I think a lot of people don't realize (especially those who accuse guys playing girls of being perverts) is that many players don't see their characters as representations of themselves. I certainly don't. I haven't ever tried to make a character that looked like me or even someone who would have my general personality. I don't pretend that I am my character and don't associate it with myself in my own head. When that's the way your mind works, you generally just pick the character you think looks the coolest, has the best moves, whatever. I, like a lot of other people, often find the girl characters to be cooler.

I've made a handful of male characters in my PSO days, but for some reason I could just never get into them. I guess maybe it's because for the most part, I'm just more fascinated by women than men. I think The Bride is cooler and more badass than The Punisher. I fancy Buffy over Batman. My closest friend is a girl, my favorite band is female-lead, and I tend to find female characters of all types to be generally of greater interest than their male counterparts. It's not because I self-identify as a girl or I'm trying to get some virtual action. The female end of the spectrum just appeals to me more.

So basically what I said in a long, drawn out way is that being a guy with a girl video game avatar isn't necessarily indicitive of anything other than the possibility that you're interested in women. Nothing personal against men; I am one, after all. But excessive manliness, Spartans putting spears through each others' faces, rippling muscles, and war cries just ain't as much my CupOfTea as a clever brunette with sly eyes and six shooter would be.

[Rainbowlemon]

On 2007-04-26 17:58, Shadow_Moses wrote:
Heh, I made my two female characters for a very stupid reason. Back when the game started, you didn't see many Caseals, so I made one. There's still not many of them on the X360 servers. The same goes with my female beast, well... >_> I just thing femme beasts are hot.



I think I'm gonna' go with that one. My personality demands that I go with the minority, whatever they are. It's usually girls.

[Thalui89]

Some people just play female chars because they prefer the designs. For instance on pso i prefered the female character designs as i thought the designs were cooler. The same for psu aswell. =P i certainly dont see my character as a representation of myself.



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[drizzle]

It may be pixelated, but it's a fine ass to look at

Oh, and look at 'em bounce!

[Sayara]

I like EVP over ATP

[Firocket1690]

And such are the joys of Role Playing Games

[ABDUR101]

For the love of God, it's 'pervert', not 'prevert'. I can remember setting with a good friend Sarah who was a year older than me, she'd say 'You're a prevert, you haven't hit puberty yet. I'm a pervert, I'm past puberty." I wonder what she's been up to...I should have kept in touch with people over the years.

Anyway, yeah lame that people act like girls to get stuff, but hey, for every guy acting like a girl to get shit, there's a fucking retard out there that must be giving free shit away!

[DonRoyale]

Bitch, please. I'm not that desperate.

I'm a bit of a pervert myself, but I'd rather see real ass than e-ass, thanks.

[UnderscoreX]

Who would've thought, perverts on the net.

[DizzyDi]

I know how you guys feel about posting /b/ stuff but I feel this appropriate.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a299/MixMasterMark/FKL%20STUFF/THEINTERNET.jpg

[DonRoyale]

I lol'ed.

Diz, you are win.

[UnderscoreX]

You mean all girls on PSU aren't actually cheerleaders ?

[navci]

*yawn*
To each their own, really. Not like people playing dude characters have any packs on them or look "bad-ass" or anything like that. People play girls, sure. People play boys, sure. So long you're not trying to deceive others and take advantage of others or something mean like that.

Really now, who the bloody hell cares.

[Weeaboolits]

On 2007-04-27 21:23, navci wrote:
Really now, who the bloody hell cares.

[Mewn]

I have a female CAST as my main.

Guess this means I'm a mechaphile AND a pervert, go me!

[imfanboy]

*points to siggy*

They're my harem. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_yes.gif

[VanHalen]

On 2007-04-28 06:17, Mewn wrote:
I have a female CAST as my main.

Guess this means I'm a mechaphile AND a pervert, go me!



No a robosexual XD

[KamiSori]

sad thing is that most of the "perverts" i encounter on PSU are in fact a male characters not a girl characters. i see people spamming cheezy dirty pick-up lines, teabagging idle characters, and giving the old "Cheer" action right into shorter characters faces (LOL).

i encounter perverts on this game all the time (no i dont play ANY female characters) yet the "perverted" issue the OP is complaining about is the most harmless one of all. why the fuck do you care if someone is sitting at home on their couch rotating the camera around their character's ass? personally i care a lot more about people spamming dirty/racist comments than i do about some poor loveless pud getting off on his online character. if it doesnt affect you then dont worry about it. the real pervs out there are the ones who actually DO and SAY offensive things to OTHER PEOPLE.

[MaximusLight]

On 2007-04-26 18:46, CupOfCoffee wrote:
The thing I think a lot of people don't realize (especially those who accuse guys playing girls of being perverts) is that many players don't see their characters as representations of themselves. I certainly don't. I haven't ever tried to make a character that looked like me or even someone who would have my general personality. I don't pretend that I am my character and don't associate it with myself in my own head. When that's the way your mind works, you generally just pick the character you think looks the coolest, has the best moves, whatever. I, like a lot of other people, often find the girl characters to be cooler.

I've made a handful of male characters in my PSO days, but for some reason I could just never get into them. I guess maybe it's because for the most part, I'm just more fascinated by women than men. I think The Bride is cooler and more badass than The Punisher. I fancy Buffy over Batman. My closest friend is a girl, my favorite band is female-lead, and I tend to find female characters of all types to be generally of greater interest than their male counterparts. It's not because I self-identify as a girl or I'm trying to get some virtual action. The female end of the spectrum just appeals to me more.

So basically what I said in a long, drawn out way is that being a guy with a girl video game avatar isn't necessarily indicitive of anything other than the possibility that you're interested in women. Nothing personal against men; I am one, after all. But excessive manliness, Spartans putting spears through each others' faces, rippling muscles, and war cries just ain't as much my CupOfTea as a clever brunette with sly eyes and six shooter would be.



I know I don't have a problem with those people, but the concensus on that thread is that it's for sick kicks which is why it bugged me. (whatever happened to just writing on this forum to get it out http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif)

[Dahilia]

Agreed. True perverts don't make excuses. Ever.

[Sinue_v2]

No a robosexual XD

The term is Mechrophilia.

[DizzyDi]

You'd know, wouldn't you Sinue? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

[Weeaboolits]

Oh, snap!

[Dahilia]

On 2007-04-29 00:12, Sinue_v2 wrote:

No a robosexual XD

The term is Mechrophilia.



I thought that only applied to giant robots?

[Nani-chan]

That would be MacroMechrophilia.

[DonRoyale]

Real preverts flaunt their perversion.

Remember, if you're a pervert your hormones buzz around more, therefore more testosterone, and therefore...you act like a dumbass more often.

"LIEK OMG I LIEK GURLZ LEAST IM NOT GAY LIEK U LOLOLOL"

^Example.

[Sinue_v2]

You'd know, wouldn't you Sinue?

Damned skippy.

I've got some PSO hentai comics of Elenor and Dr (of Love). Montegue. Which I thought was pretty funny, because he disconnected her arms and legs before doing the nasty.

Though the HUnewearl Menage a Trois was was my favorite.

[navci]

On 2007-04-29 13:33, Nani-chan wrote:
That would be MacroMechrophilia.



So would a loving of miniature microphilia? :>
minimechrophilia? That just sounds nifty.

[Dahilia]

On 2007-04-29 13:49, Sinue_v2 wrote:
I've got some PSO hentai comics of Elenor and Dr (of Love). Montegue. Which I thought was pretty funny, because he disconnected her arms and legs before doing the nasty.
WHAT THE FUCK? Ugh....





Title pls?

[Mystil]

On 2007-04-26 14:03, Sychosis wrote:
I prefer to look at her face:

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s302/Sychosis777/ItsaMe.jpg



I have to say that you probably have the best looking character in the game because of those eyes alone. They almost tell the story of one who's been through many things and have gained plenty knowledge from them.

[Shiryuu]

On 2007-04-29 13:49, Sinue_v2 wrote:

You'd know, wouldn't you Sinue?

Damned skippy.

I've got some PSO hentai comics of Elenor and Dr (of Love). Montegue. Which I thought was pretty funny, because he disconnected her arms and legs before doing the nasty.

Though the HUnewearl Menage a Trois was was my favorite.


lol. I have those too. Good stuff.

[BooChan]

I guess I'm an exception.I'm an actual woman who makes attractive female characters. Yet players online think or believe me to be a guy. I have a very warped geeky but frat boyish sense of humor. I get along easily with men and it comes through online. I'm a bit of a perv myself. I have no qualms of approaching peoples male characters online and letting them know that their character is a hot piece of ass.

And I agree that female character customization options are more visually appealing than the men.

[imfanboy]

It's the PSU stuff that makes me laugh, now. XD Laia x Leo...

And this one. Check out this image from the doujinshi:

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i225/iamfanboy/steyrlookalike-1.jpg

Now, check this image taken of the outfit that my neweark wears when she's forteteching:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b148/DeusCasus/psu20070309_035801_012.jpg

This guy stole my outfit! NUUU! Even the hat!

[Sychosis]

On 2007-04-29 20:09, Mystil wrote:

On 2007-04-26 14:03, Sychosis wrote:
I prefer to look at her face:

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s302/Sychosis777/ItsaMe.jpg



I have to say that you probably have the best looking character in the game because of those eyes alone. They almost tell the story of one who's been through many things and have gained plenty knowledge from them.






Aww shucks http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/blush.gif

[Schubalts]

Hey hey heeeyyy. Girls can be perverts, too!

Yea, I'm not reading the whole thread again, so oh well if it's been said.

[Garroway]

Just out of (morbid?) curiosity....

Many of you use the excuse that your avatar is not to be taken as a true representation of oneself, which is, if nothing else a good policy. However, you are participating in an online community compromised of mainly people that you do not know. While it's true that the avatar is certainly not the only indicator of in what manner one is to be viewed, it is still one of the biggest ones. At some point you had to have taken this into consideration and still chosen to represent yourself as a member of the opposite sex (at least a little bit). Also, it seems to me that many of you males who choose to be represented as a female act the part well enough to be considered flirtatious. Many of you choose not to use voice communication so as not to reveal your true gender even though you claim not to be hiding the fact that you are in fact a male. Most of you will not offer the information until directly asked either, the whole time adding text that most consider feminine (;_;, or ^_^ for example) even though there isn't any real reason to consider such items as feminine. Many of you even use this as justification of your actions, knowing very well that you are behaving in what might be falsly considered a feminine manner, probably even lying to yourselves about your deceitful behavior. Again, mileage does vary and I have partied with plenty of people whose gender was obvious despite having a female avatar... it's the ones who aren't obvious that I have to wonder about.

[Mystil]

Garroway you make good points. Now I feel obligated to explain my reasons.

Truth be told, I'm a 24 year old man who works a full time job at Kroger, currently in an online relationship with a 22 year old girl in california =p. I specifically don't wont to play on the 360 because of the voice chat. I'd much rather play female characters without being verbally ridiculed by the guys in that community. However when using my character, my personality is what you'd deal with in real life. There is no "feminine" addage. My original username was Silhouette, I had it changed to Mystil cause I didn't wont to be "viewed" as a girl on forum - Sil was just so people know who I was in PSO. However the avatar isn't helping, but as a person who also has a habit of making avatars, you must understand that avatars do not have to represent your gender ONLY. They can be used to represent your moods, your kind of personality, or what you desire. I do not offer information to my gender because of what it does. Potential "male friends" often wont nothing to do with a girl character who isn't a girl. Many a time when I am asked, I try to be vague. Sometimes "fuck it" and just tell them, and boom there they go. It's REAL long story, but me and a friend who don't play no more(who was a real girl) got cussed out by a guy in game once over this. Calling us f**'s and whatnot. ;p

There are guys out there who look heavily down on this. In FFXI you have man who play girl characters and have gone the full mile with guys using male characters - those are the ones who have issues.

And there you have it.

[Sychosis]

I'll tell you straight up I use smilies. I simply feels it helps convey my thoughts more clearly. I don't feel like talking sometimes as, despite my fairly outspoken nature on the intarwebs, I'm a very shy person in real life. So sometimes I just don't want to talk, especially when there is only 1 other person playing with me.

Anyway, back to smilies, I typically use these and I don't feel they are too feminine:

:D
:O
:P
D:
;_;
T_T
O_o
:/
-_-
-_-;
>_<
>_>

Ones that I won't use unless using it will be funny:
^_^
^_^;
^_-
^^
^_____^
:3

Ones that I will kill you for using:
=^_^=

[VanHalen]

On 2007-04-30 16:30, Sychosis wrote:
I'll tell you straight up I use smilies. I simply feels it helps convey my thoughts more clearly. I don't feel like talking sometimes as, despite my fairly outspoken nature on the intarwebs, I'm a very shy person in real life. So sometimes I just don't want to talk, especially when there is only 1 other person playing with me.

Anyway, back to smilies, I typically use these and I don't feel they are too feminine:

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif
http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif
http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
D:
;_;
T_T
O_o
:/
-_-
-_-;
>_<
>_>

Ones that I won't use unless using it will be funny:
^_^
^_^;
^_-
http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif
^_____^
:3

Ones that I will kill you for using:
=^_^=




Ahhh so you are fluent at speaking newman too.

[Sinue_v2]

Many of you use the excuse that your avatar is not to be taken as a true representation of oneself

My avattar (and title) actually does represent myself a little bit. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif


Many of you choose not to use voice communication so as not to reveal your true gender even though you claim not to be hiding the fact that you are in fact a male.

When I played the 360 demo, I often used text rather than voice chat. It was easier to just do it that way instead of having some squeaky voiced 12 year old brat schreech vulgarities at me because they think it's "gay" to play a female character.


Most of you will not offer the information until directly asked either

Question: Why the fuck does it matter if someone is a male or female online? Only two major organs seperate the sexes, and neither of them are located on the hands. Males and Females both have two hands, 10 fingers. That's all you need to use to move your character around and either tank or heal or shoot. It doesn't matter much beyond that point. Do your job in the party, and I'm happy. You could be a fucking squirrel, and as long as you can play decent - I have no problems with that.

Or to put it another way... none of you have a gender to me. You are text on a screen. Any information shared past that point is unnecessary, and extremely optional.


Potential "male friends" often wont nothing to do with a girl character who isn't a girl. Many a time when I am asked, I try to be vague. Sometimes "fuck it" and just tell them, and boom there they go.

Mystill, you know... if someone doesn't want to be your friend because you play a female character - then they're not your goddamned friend to begin with. Be open, and be honest. If they can't handle it... the fuck them, they obviously weren't worth your time to begin with. Don't waste your time trying to cling to some false friendship that mean absolutely nothing. Strengthen the ones you do have with people who actually ARE your friends, not some fucking internet personalities who bail the first moment they realize you're packing the Jimmy Dean.

[Sychosis]

On 2007-04-30 16:33, VanHalen wrote:

Ahhh so you are fluent at speaking newman too.



http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif?

[VanHalen]

On 2007-04-30 16:39, Sychosis wrote:

On 2007-04-30 16:33, VanHalen wrote:

Ahhh so you are fluent at speaking newman too.



http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif?



It's a joke my friend made in his comic. Read it here n_n

http://pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=140063&forum=12&77

[Midicronica]

On 2007-04-30 16:30, Sychosis wrote:

Ones that I will kill you for using:
=^_^=




Hello, Sychosis-chan! How are you~nyo! =^_^=

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif I made myself sick.

[MaximusLight]

lol

I love this, I'm leaving for days and coming back to find shear caos here

rofl

[omegapirate2k]

Im looking at YOU nani

[omegapirate2k]

On 2007-04-30 17:07, Shadow_Moses wrote:

On 2007-04-30 16:30, Sychosis wrote:

Ones that I will kill you for using:
=^_^=




Hello, Sychosis-chan! How are you~nyo! =^_^=

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif I made myself sick.



omega-chan approves of your post.

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[Nani-chan]

On 2007-04-30 22:31, omegapirate2k wrote:
Im looking at YOU nani




http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

[omegapirate2k]

On 2007-04-30 23:23, Nani-chan wrote:

On 2007-04-30 22:31, omegapirate2k wrote:
Im looking at YOU nani




http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif



Dang I have to put that back in my post, I deleted it when I pasted shadows post in there XD

EDIT: Oh wait I double posted that.

Oh well, I guess I fail XD

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[Aisha_Clan-Clan]

=~.^=

[SStrikerR]

On 2007-04-26 18:46, CupOfCoffee wrote:
The thing I think a lot of people don't realize (especially those who accuse guys playing girls of being perverts) is that many players don't see their characters as representations of themselves. I certainly don't. I haven't ever tried to make a character that looked like me or even someone who would have my general personality. I don't pretend that I am my character and don't associate it with myself in my own head. When that's the way your mind works, you generally just pick the character you think looks the coolest, has the best moves, whatever. I, like a lot of other people, often find the girl characters to be cooler.

I've made a handful of male characters in my PSO days, but for some reason I could just never get into them. I guess maybe it's because for the most part, I'm just more fascinated by women than men. I think The Bride is cooler and more badass than The Punisher. I fancy Buffy over Batman. My closest friend is a girl, my favorite band is female-lead, and I tend to find female characters of all types to be generally of greater interest than their male counterparts. It's not because I self-identify as a girl or I'm trying to get some virtual action. The female end of the spectrum just appeals to me more.

So basically what I said in a long, drawn out way is that being a guy with a girl video game avatar isn't necessarily indicitive of anything other than the possibility that you're interested in women. Nothing personal against men; I am one, after all. But excessive manliness, Spartans putting spears through each others' faces, rippling muscles, and war cries just ain't as much my CupOfTea as a clever brunette with sly eyes and six shooter would be.

i agree with some if it, but the rest....0.0;

[Garroway]

On 2007-04-30 16:36, Sinue_v2 wrote:
When I played the 360 demo, I often used text rather than voice chat. It was easier to just do it that way instead of having some squeaky voiced 12 year old brat schreech vulgarities at me because they think it's "gay" to play a female character.

I use both forms of communication freely. I didn't mean to imply that everyone who uses text communication over voice communication is only doing so as a means of concealing their gender. You must admit that there is a population that does though, and it is they that I question (you know who you are!).



Question: Why the fuck does it matter if someone is a male or female online? Only two major organs seperate the sexes, and neither of them are located on the hands. Males and Females both have two hands, 10 fingers. That's all you need to use to move your character around and either tank or heal or shoot. It doesn't matter much beyond that point. Do your job in the party, and I'm happy. You could be a fucking squirrel, and as long as you can play decent - I have no problems with that.

Or to put it another way... none of you have a gender to me. You are text on a screen. Any information shared past that point is unnecessary, and extremely optional.


Again, I should have been more clear apparantly. It doesn't matter to me what a persons true gender is. However, gender must matter to a person who intentionaly conceals it or they wouldn't think to conceal it. It is that person that I have to question. What could this person possibly be hoping to get out of the game that makes pretending to be female necessery? Again, the only answers I can come up with range from a little strange to a horror beyond comprehension.


PSS -> Mystil... Did you really just say that you pretend to be a girl so that all the internet boys that you hang out with will like you (more or less)? Don't you think that that's just a little bit fucked up?

[Sinue_v2]

However, gender must matter to a person who intentionaly conceals it or they wouldn't think to conceal it. It is that person that I have to question.

I still don't understand where it makes a difference? Why would you question them? Maybe they're gay and want to do some harmless flirting without a bunch of hassles? Transexual? Who knows? But the point still stands, as long as you can play the game and are fun to hang around - then in the end it doesn't matter.

Not to say that I advocate dishonesty, even in anonamity of the internet. If I find out someone who's told me they're a woman was lying, and is really a man, then my issue is with the lie itself - not the motivations beind it. I don't like liars.


Did you really just say that you pretend to be a girl so that all the internet boys that you hang out with will like you (more or less)? Don't you think that that's just a little bit fucked up?

Harsher than I put it... but, probably a bit more spot on.

[Zorafim]

I myself view my character as a way to express myself. I like fish girls with sad eyes and heavy armor, so I made a fish girl with sad eyes and heavy armor. I didn't even equate that character being me, and I still don't. Levia is my creation, my vision of perfection in my eyes made real (read: digital).

As for perverts using female characters to have something to stare at; they don't get my respect, but I don't see them any worse than I see people who are just perverted. In fact, I'd rather someone perves up their own character than trying to do so with someone else's. That later action I find unforgivable, rather than the first which I find to be a facepalm starter. However, someone I have a deal of respect for is an open pervert and practically user his characters as fap material.

[Gryffin]

On 2007-04-30 17:07, Shadow_Moses wrote:

On 2007-04-30 16:30, Sychosis wrote:

Ones that I will kill you for using:
=^_^=




Hello, Sychosis-chan! How are you~nyo! =^_^=

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif I made myself sick.



Kiria would assault you with a stick for using his phrase... I'll go tell him on AIM that you did http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

XD He basically fell off of the forums :

[Kirip-san]

*pops head in*

Whoa, someone's using my signature sentence closer (well, besides Dejiko-chan)~nyo.

And what's wrong with nyo~nyo? >_>

Back to Shakugan No Shana, Lucky Star, and FFXI~nyo.




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[Gryffin]

(Puts away his Patented Kiria-chan summoning set...a.k.a. some cookies and milk and a whistle....a.k.a. AIM...)

I HAVE ACCOMPLISHED MY LIFE'S GOAL! I HAVE SUMMONED A LOLI!

[Nani-chan]

I'm admitting to being a pervert, happy now? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Sinue_v2]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/Sinue/mahoro_scold.jpg
Dirty Thoughts Are Bad!

[Aisha_Clan-Clan]

Right http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=141398&forum=9&10

=~.^=

[EphekZ]

On 2007-05-02 20:06, Aisha_Clan-Clan wrote:
Right http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=141398&forum=9&10

=~.^=



how does this relate to this topic?

[Nani-chan]

Her topic is perverted, I guess.

[EphekZ]

Have you clicked it?

[Sinue_v2]

Dude....

I made the joke with Mahoro about "Dirty Thoughts being bad"...

... in that thread that was posted, I also advocated masturbation over video games for improved overall health.

See a connection maybe?

[opaopajr]

why would i need an excuse? i've always liked f#$%ing with people's heads. a lie here, a flirt there, and none's the wiser -- except me.
http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif
the way i see it is my private life has *nothing* to do with your online public 'life.' and if you're willing to take things so seriously, that's your personal flaw. and thus all the more entertaining putty in my hands, too.
http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif
you make it seem like it's a bad thing. why are you so worried? was PSU your private online dating channel? mind freaking the unimaginative is now forbidden?
http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif



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[Kerschweiser]

o.Oa I dunno why this hasen't been said but what of the female players on male avatars with dishonest gender integrity? It exists, I've seen it (in other games mind you, didn't really know anyone when I came to PSU).

Personally I don't advocate the integration of reality and virtual reality. Nobody is going to live up to the portrayal of thier virtual selves. Ever. Seriously, when was the last time you went cow-tipping with a lightsaber?

[XCOPY]

I'm sure the majority is comprised of 2 groups....the transgenger(potential cross-dresser) folks....and the guys who apparently just want to stare at a hot video game character for the duration of their playtime. Of course, the latter group WILL admit to that, since society generally has less of a problem with that. The first group will never admit the truth in their case....many will claim to be part of that 2nd group. I'd bet it's only a minority of players that truly care enough about the stat differences in male and female character to pick the females. Other genres are a bit different. Fighting games, for instance...the character you play is more of tool to just get whatever the goal is done. The base concept of Phantasy Star and all other games like it....is roleplay.

I'd love to see some real stats on this....to see just how many are claiming they're part of the 2nd "Stare at Hot Polygon Ass"group, when in reality....they're the type that probably dressed up in mother/auntee's clothing when home alone. Heh, the type that gets in big trouble when the wife/girlfriend may find certain female clothing items hidden away that aren't hers....

*I also love how some(*perhaps those who are uncomfortable because the topic steps on some toes?) always try to divert the issue at hand and say "What about all these humans playing robot characters?" It's amusing....a silly way of dancing away from the real topic.

Anyway, there's a certain sadistic side of me that would be entertained by seeing the closet cross-dresser gamers exposed in some way, with no more excuses(e.g.->"well, if I'm going to stare at a character butt for hundreds of hours...may as well be a hot chick...") to run off to.

[DizzyDi]

On 2007-05-07 05:22, XCOPY wrote:
I'm sure the majority is comprised of 2 groups....the transgenger(potential cross-dresser) folks....and the guys who apparently just want to stare at a hot video game character for the duration of their playtime. Of course, the latter group WILL admit to that, since society generally has less of a problem with that. The first group will never admit the truth in their case....many will claim to be part of that 2nd group.


You're half wrong there.
There are many people in the 1st group that would proudly admit to playing as a female because they feel more in touch with that side.
Hell, I know of at least 2 people that have posted on this topic that would.

[amtalx]

I have a male main and 2 alts, one male, one female. My main is a male Cast Fortegunner...because that's what they are good at. I use a female Newman for my Fortetecher because I wanted to bludgeon hordes of enemies with my insurmountable TP total. I made my yet unused male Beast Fortefighter for the same reason. I chose race/sex/class based on my play style and what they would be good at. Im unsure why some people seem to think that it strange.

[Kerschweiser]

On 2007-05-07 05:22, XCOPY wrote:
*I also love how some(*perhaps those who are uncomfortable because the topic steps on some toes?) always try to divert the issue at hand and say "What about all these humans playing robot characters?" It's amusing....a silly way of dancing away from the real topic.


Since I believe this snipet was directed at me I'll make it clear as to where I was going with my cow-tipping comment.

There are too many people who:
A. have sexual preference insecurities.
B. are looking for a relationship beyond friendship.
C. try to bind a make-believe reality to the rules of thier sandbox.
D. are closed-minded nazis.

Games are made for people to ejoy. By engaging in the online community you run the risk of exposing yourself to other's methods of enjoyment. If that's too much for you, stay out of the phantasy. Thank you and good day.

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[DikkyRay]

this si still going on? XD

[Tra]

On 2007-04-30 16:36, Sinue_v2 wrote:

Mystill, you know... if someone doesn't want to be your friend because you play a female character - then they're not your goddamned friend to begin with. Be open, and be honest. If they can't handle it... the fuck them, they obviously weren't worth your time to begin with. Don't waste your time trying to cling to some false friendship that mean absolutely nothing. Strengthen the ones you do have with people who actually ARE your friends, not some fucking internet personalities who bail the first moment they realize you're packing the Jimmy Dean.



I'm pretty sure you're not very fond of me from your previous posts, but I really agree with this here. Rock on. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif


I'm a pervert
I'm a boy
I fuck boys
I fuck girls
I fuck girls irl
I don't fuck boys irl... yet
Don't like me? Then make topics about me. (oops that already happened didn't it?)

[Sinue_v2]

I don't even know who you are, and if I've made comments to the contrary, then it's nothing more than lol, internets.

The only person I have a problem with, is Shim, and I don't really even have a problem with her. I just have this dread facination with pulling her pigtails and chasing her around with doo-doo on a stick.

[-Shimarisu-]

On 2007-05-07 02:46, Kerschweiser wrote:
o.Oa I dunno why this hasen't been said but what of the female players on male avatars with dishonest gender integrity? It exists, I've seen it (in other games mind you, didn't really know anyone when I came to PSU).



WOW I FINALLY HAVE A NAME FOR MY ORIENTATION AND APPARENTLY IT IS "DISHONEST GENDER INTEGRITY."

I WONDER HOW MUCH I CAN CLAIM ON STATE BENEFITS FOR THIS????

[MaximusLight]

On 2007-05-07 17:14, DikkyRay wrote:
this si still going on? XD



I am as surprized as you are http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
It's like that can't except the fact that I think it's wrong XD

[doubleEXP]

I have always wondered why people CARED what gender a person was in IRL compared the gender of the person's character in the game.

I can't possibly see how it matters unless YOU are playing the game in hopes of 'hooking up' with someone you meet in the game.

Why else would it possibly matter to you?

[MaximusLight]

On 2007-05-09 12:02, doubleEXP wrote:
I have always wondered why people CARED what gender a person was in IRL compared the gender of the person's character in the game.

I can't possibly see how it matters unless YOU are playing the game in hopes of 'hooking up' with someone you meet in the game.

Why else would it possibly matter to you?



That's a good question, and for that matter why would you want to hook up this way anyways, you'd have no way of telling if they are lying of not.

[Zorafim]

On 2007-05-07 05:22, XCOPY wrote:
I'm sure the majority is comprised of 2 groups....the transgenger(potential cross-dresser) folks....and the guys who apparently just want to stare at a hot video game character for the duration of their playtime. Of course, the latter group WILL admit to that, since society generally has less of a problem with that. The first group will never admit the truth in their case....many will claim to be part of that 2nd group.

So you're saying that I'm either a pervert or I'm gay. There's no "artistic freedom" option.
Levia is not me, and Levia is not my sex slave. Levia is a character I created because my imagination thought her up. Yes, I used the limitations of the game to guide her creation, but I still prefer her to any other character I could have possibly come up with.

How is this different than a sculptor or a painter, expressing their creative talents? Are they automatically gay because they drew a maiden in a garden instead of a warrior in a battlefield? Are they a pervert because of their nude sculpture, deprived of any sexual representations? Then why am I attacked as being a closet pervert just because I want a female character when I could have just as easily created a male?




*I also love how some(*perhaps those who are uncomfortable because the topic steps on some toes?) always try to divert the issue at hand and say "What about all these humans playing robot characters?" It's amusing....a silly way of dancing away from the real topic.

They aren't averting the subject at hand, they're creating a near exact situation. I see no difference between creating a robot and creating a female. Their argument is that it's stupid to attack someone because they created a representation of themselves that isn't seen in the physical world. It takes a dull brain to not see how this is a valid arguement.

[VIRIDIA_HUNTER]

Look heer the only pervy guy i no is:
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u65/Nightm4r36666/JiraiyaFertig.gif

[Weeaboolits]

On 2007-05-09 15:49, Dr_Montague wrote:
Look heer the only pervy guy i no is:
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u65/Nightm4r36666/JiraiyaFertig.gifhttp://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w8/Ronin_Cooper/what.png

[Tengoku]

Interesting about those who hate the practice often try to set the terms of the discussion. The OP states that"
...all you guys that play girls for the sake of looking at pixelated ass are just sad. And seriously at least ADMIT TO BEING A PREVERTED GUY, YOU'RE NOT FOOLING ANYONE BY TRYING TO JUSTIFY IT, I at least have some respect for the people that admit to it, but closet preverts WTF!?!
Oddly enough he's totally wrong and an inexperienced boob to boot. Being a pervert has nothing to do with making a female 'toon and making a female 'toon has nothing to do with being a pervert. Any relationship that the OP assumes to have found is coincidental and backed up by nothing more than personal opinion and his limited experience.

I'm male and play only female 'toons, no matter the MMORPG for the simple reason that much more detail and effort seems to go into the development of female avatars and their equipment and dress. Female 'toons look better then their male counterparts. I have yet to run into a game where this is not true. I am, however, open to suggestions.

Pervert? Sure, but not in the way you understand, nor are you likely ever to understand anytime soon, and it has nothing to do with pixelated characters. Art Whore? Gods yes. I'll cop to that charge every time. When PSU started, all the male clothing screamed SKATER and I'm the last person in the world who will ever think skater gear is neat, or cool, or even worth spending money on. My opinion, of course, as pro skaters have my ultimate respect based on their athletic ability and work ethic. Their clothes, on the other hand, clash with my conservative dress ethics. So, no male skater clothes for me. This is the core of my decision to not play using a male avatar.

The women look better and have more varied outfits. That's it. No perversion, no closet cross-dressing tendencies, nothing your tiny and closed little mind can curently comprehend.

Personally, I call this one big case of projection on the part of the OP. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[KodiaX987]

Why is this thread still alive? Can't you people fucking come to terms with men playing girls on the Internet?

Are you guys the offspring of Fred Phelps or what?!

[omegapirate2k]

On 2007-05-10 17:03, KodiaX987 wrote:
Can't you people fucking come to terms with men playing girls on the Internet?


No they can't....

Bad experiences, shuri, bad experiences...

[-Shimarisu-]

On 2007-05-10 16:18, Tengoku wrote:

Female 'toons look better then their male counterparts. I have yet to run into a game where this is not true. I am, however, open to suggestions.




Phantasy Star Universe.

[DrewSeleski]

If they let female characters wear male clothes I would make one this instant. No lie. Annyoed abotu female clothes because ALL the outfits are so terribly girly(barring that horrific samurai mess) while male clothes have a blend of feminine and masculine styles. I love my braves pants so dearly :D

[-Shimarisu-]

On 2007-05-10 18:32, DrewSeleski wrote:
Annyoed abotu female clothes because ALL the outfits are so terribly girly(barring that horrific samurai mess)


That'll be the horrific samurai mess my only female char wears, right?

:(

[DrewSeleski]

You don't wear all of it, and besides it only looks good on blacks and I am utterly unable to make a good looking one.

[-Shimarisu-]

On 2007-05-10 18:36, DrewSeleski wrote:
You don't wear all of it, and besides it only looks good on blacks and I am utterly unable to make a good looking one.



Any female beast. :)

[XCOPY]

ok ok...the "artistic creation" is something I didn't consider....heh, despite being an art major. When I see and play these games though..."roleplay" is something that comes to mind immediately. Males "roleplaying" as females...even if it's only slight...is something that inevitably raises some questions. With a game of this type...I see the whole point of it being mostly about roleplay. Perhaps this is just me...but I create a character in these types of games as a sort of representation of myself, or a character I can relate to...or something just to be silly, like "Dookieman" and his PM "Pootball"...or Lion-O, He-Man, etc.. I've actually tried making female characters before in PSO, for the sake of variety. I just couldn't relate or even care about those characters....I always ended up deleting them...my interest level would fade quickly each time. In PSU, I made a female character once, not to seriously play it....but just to check it out in skimpy clothes, like the "perverts" group I mentioned earlier....as always with the female characters, it got deleted in favor of a character I would actually play.

Roleplaying as a robot doesn't raise questions/curiosity of a person *possibly* having some gender-identity issues. It doesn't raise any questions, really...as they(at least on that level of advancement) are still quite a ways off from being reality. Even with a female-looking robot, they still aren't typically thought of as a "he" or "she", as they aren't living things with an obvious gender.

I don't look down on either group I mentioned previously when making generalizations, btw. For me to look down on someone for being "perverse" would be the most hilarious case of hypocrisy ever.

*most of the clothes in this game are horrible no matter which gender characters you play, btw.



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[Tra]

Shima hey, lets cyber

[Zorafim]

On 2007-05-10 19:11, XCOPY wrote:
When I see and play these games though..."roleplay" is something that comes to mind immediately.

This is normally the last case that most players experience. Under most situations, people just want a physical representation of their personality (joke characters for people with loose personalities come to mind). Some people choose a character based on their respect for that character (this is where I'd fall in). And some people just want something to perv at ("Feck Me" and "Bend me Over!" come to mind). I'm sure I'm missing a large amount of situations here, but I may have enough for our current discution.



Roleplaying as a robot doesn't raise questions/curiosity of a person *possibly* having some gender-identity issues.

The point here is probably a miscommunication of our last point. You say that playing as a female character makes one gay, while you mean that roleplaying a female character may make one gay. Someone hears that as the player in question should be forced to play what they truly are, and bring up the point that nobody seems to care about people playing as mindless droids, despite having a full personality. You interpret this as people roleplaying as droids, which is dissimilar to roleplaying as a human.

Again, almost nobody roleplays and simply pick their avitars because they look cool. Take Deja's Whopper and Cheese character, you really think he wants to be known as that thing?



I don't look down on either group I mentioned previously when making generalizations, btw.

Believe it or not, many people find it offensive being called a homosexual or being called a pervert. Just so you know.


*most of the clothes in this game are horrible no matter which gender characters you play, btw.

Agreed beyond belief, with the exception of Caseals.