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majan
May 7, 2007, 09:24 PM
okay so level 100-119 monsters drop the 10* loot.awesome.let us begin killing them. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_beer.gif

logic tells us that the next bracket above that will be level 120-139 monsters,dropping 11* loot.awesome.[insert "let us begin killing them" here] ........

something wrong with this picture?

S2/SS missions are the highest current difficulty.the highest monster levels of S rank missions were...


The Mad beasts, level 90, S2 having 105
Rainbow beeast, level 50, S2 having 100(that one doesnt make much sense,but whatever,nobodys complaining)
SEED awakeneed, level 90, if it follows the current trend, the s2 will have 105...
dark satellite is also worth mentioning with monsters at 85.maybe this will have 100 monsters.

so,this leaves room for a decent array of droppable 10*'s,but according to trends,this does leave a lot of blank spots.sabers drop off of linear line creatures.unless they are found to be dropppable off of deljabans in the hive as well,(somebody please post if theyve found a rapier/buccaneer board off of a 85/90 delj).so we have max linear line missions in terms of monster levels,but nowhere near max possible item drops.I think ther emay be a few other items that have drop tables that will be affected by this but I cant really call them to mind right now.

but I think you guys get my point..where will these items be dropping?my guess is that there will be 1 mission on each planet with level 100 + monsters.that leaves no room for monsters that can drop 11*+ items.its almost a given that were probably going to wait until the expansion to see things over 10 *'s dropping,but what if we dont?will there be S3 missions?

also,there is a pic of a dude holding an item that is actually 13 star rarity.I saw it only once and I have no ide awhere the hell the link is,if someone has it,please post it.
*--this pic I saw was from the beta,before you think Im totally fuckin cracked out

now that may mean that items go up to 15 stars instaed of only 12,especially with a pic of someone holding in their inventory a 13 star item.apparenly,the stars after 12 flicker white instead of gold/green/teal/blue like lower ranks)

where in the dizzle where these items be dropping?we havent even talked abotu 12*'s yet,which according to the current trends,will drop off of lv 140-159 monsters!

oh,the humanity,sega.



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: majan on 2007-05-07 19:26 ]</font>

Kaydin
May 7, 2007, 09:26 PM
I hope we get level 150+ enemies. I really do.

majan
May 7, 2007, 09:27 PM
me too man.it just doesnt make sense to me how we can with the current trends of mission upgrades,though.

9lotus
May 7, 2007, 09:29 PM
they could just add S3 missions, or whatever the want tyo call the next grade above S

Kaydin
May 7, 2007, 09:30 PM
Sega will add them somehow. I'm hoping for later missions that only come in S2 with level 150+ enemies.

I mean, Ultimate Seabed was a lot harder than Ultimate Ruins, but they were still both "Ultimate" difficulty.

McLaughlin
May 7, 2007, 09:31 PM
The 13 star stuff is AoI stuff.

Shiryuu
May 7, 2007, 09:31 PM
11* Currently drop from the level 100+ bosses. So S3 bosses will probably drop the 12*, then we'll get AoI. It'll continue like that until we get to 15*

13*+ are AoI only btw.



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Golto
May 7, 2007, 09:37 PM
You need to check out some of the JPN sites. There are already at least 8 11* weapon boards that drop from boss boxes in s2 ranked missions that JPN pc/ps2 have. It does seem there will have to be s3 ranking if we are to get all 12* before the expansion.

The 13-15 stuff is unfinished data on the PSU disk. Have to wait for AOI untill we can see them drop. AOI has the promise of much higher lvl monsters.

Fulgore
May 7, 2007, 09:38 PM
On 2007-05-07 19:31, Obsidian_Knight wrote:
The 13 star stuff is AoI stuff.



Agreed!

As for 12*'s...Their is room in the mission Bracket field to add S3 and so on...so I have no doubts 12*'s will be in the current version...just gonna take time http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

natewifi
May 7, 2007, 09:39 PM
But wait a second, why is Psycho Wand's data in this ver?

McLaughlin
May 7, 2007, 09:41 PM
Because it's a 12*?

Kaydin
May 7, 2007, 09:41 PM
On 2007-05-07 19:39, natewifi wrote:
But wait a second, why is Psycho Wand's data in this ver?Because it's a 12*. Someone in JP found it.

Fulgore
May 7, 2007, 09:46 PM
Psycho wand is definately 12* and Yes, it has been found in JP..so.....walla

Itsuki
May 7, 2007, 09:51 PM
On 2007-05-07 19:46, Fulgore wrote:
Psycho wand is definately 12* and Yes, it has been found in JP..so.....walla


I believe you're looking for the world "viola"

But... yes, the psycho wand board has been found on the JP version from sleeping warriors S2. Its an area drop, very low chance. Like crea doubles (maybe even lower).

Its also in the offline data files and hackable offline. Which means they originally planned to include it offline aswell (I guess they just never made it drop anywhere though).

akratic
May 7, 2007, 10:10 PM
Well, I guess at least this time you were wrong about something different, majan.

Good job?

Fulgore
May 7, 2007, 10:12 PM
On 2007-05-07 19:51, Itsuki-chan wrote:

On 2007-05-07 19:46, Fulgore wrote:
Psycho wand is definately 12* and Yes, it has been found in JP..so.....walla


I believe you're looking for the world "viola"

..........



Right http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif Viola....

But it sounds like "walla" http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

And sounds are sooooooo much more important http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif Right World?! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Kaydin
May 7, 2007, 10:13 PM
It's French. It's never spelled like it sounds. ;D

Fulgore
May 7, 2007, 10:14 PM
On 2007-05-07 20:13, Kaydin wrote:
It's French. It's never spelled like it sounds. ;D



Do I SOUND like a Cheeze Eating Surrender Monkey to You!

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

...No

Itsuki
May 7, 2007, 10:15 PM
On 2007-05-07 20:12, Fulgore wrote:

On 2007-05-07 19:51, Itsuki-chan wrote:

On 2007-05-07 19:46, Fulgore wrote:
Psycho wand is definately 12* and Yes, it has been found in JP..so.....walla


I believe you're looking for the world "viola"

..........



Right http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif Viola....

But it sounds like "walla" http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

And sounds are sooooooo much more important http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif Right World?! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif


Hahaha, my typing fails me. I won't deny I frequently leave out a word or sentence fragment... or randomly add an extra letter or something. Thats why so many of my posts have an edit on them. Becuase I re-read them after I post, and realize I screwed up the english and it makes no sense.

Fulgore
May 7, 2007, 10:19 PM
I know Itsuki-chan http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif....I know...no worries, I do it too

And for those who don't know (ie: read your history)

Cheeze Eating Surrender Monkey = French! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

physic
May 7, 2007, 10:53 PM
also, S2 can go as high as they want really. its range is like what mobs 50-105? there still a few high level spots without an S2 in jp. endrum remnants dual sentinal, hive 1 and 2 come to mind, i think theres a few more, anyhow those quests can cover the missing items and 11 stars. Also its possible other levels have area drops that juts havent dropped yet. Its possible that withing S2 all the stuff can drop, and maybe even possible if the jp really gonna get aoi as soon as some think.

-Shimarisu-
May 7, 2007, 11:40 PM
I think all you people mean "voila."

Pakwan
May 7, 2007, 11:52 PM
Thank you, Shimarisu. I get tired of people thinking that a stringed orchestral instrument has a name that means "Look there."

Arika
May 8, 2007, 12:55 AM
I think u shouldn't state this until every data get more clear,
I will tell you
11* drop from all new boss http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif
long bow = degunhna
claw = zolgoug
twin dagger = onmag
rifle = Magas
sword = deragan



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9lotus
May 8, 2007, 01:11 AM
11* rifle? I guess i'll be doing lots of Desert Goliath S2 when it comes out then...

Soukosa
May 8, 2007, 01:54 AM
Personally, I don't expect to see any enemies past lv 11x range in this version of PSU. If they were gonna go higher then some of the S2 missions would have higher enemy levels. I also don't see any reason to go past S2 rank. You people need to remember that AoI's missions used alot of the current enemies only with a different element which use a different AI and some can be significantly more challenging to fight. Also being the same enemy, they'd follow the same series of drops and go up into the higher levels. In this way, you actually earn the 11*+ drops since things are more challenging. AoI's mission ranks also don't follow the usual level ranges either. Most likely, these 11* rares from the bosses in the hardest S2 ranks are the highest you're gonna go, sans the Psycho Wand and Agito Repca from their respective places.


On 2007-05-07 22:55, Arika wrote:
I think u shouldn't state this until every data get more clear,
I will tell you
11* drop from all new boss http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif
long bow = degunhna
claw = zolgoug
twin dagger = onmag
rifle = Magas
sword = deragan

All of them likely drop 2 11* weapons. De Ragan drops both an 11* sword and handgun and Adahna drops both an 11* longbow and laser cannon. Going off of these being the last ranks for the current missions, it'd be easy to understand why there's 2 possible S rank drops.

Eleina
May 8, 2007, 02:16 AM
Seeing some 10* drop would be nice already...but i still reckon all the current data they have will be added before the expansion (even if i have severe doubts on the [B]grinder A for US PC/PS2 servers http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif)

Shiryuu
May 8, 2007, 06:05 AM
On 2007-05-07 23:54, Sounomi wrote:

On 2007-05-07 22:55, Arika wrote:
I think u shouldn't state this until every data get more clear,
I will tell you
11* drop from all new boss http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif
long bow = degunhna
claw = zolgoug
twin dagger = onmag
rifle = Magas
sword = deragan

All of them likely drop 2 11* weapons. De Ragan drops both an 11* sword and handgun and Adahna drops both an 11* longbow and laser cannon. Going off of these being the last ranks for the current missions, it'd be easy to understand why there's 2 possible S rank drops.


You both sure 11* bow drops from Degahna? I can't find any info on rikauteri in the jp wiki...

Magician
May 8, 2007, 06:57 AM
Just look at the mission difficulty choices, there's plenty of room for S3, S4 and S5 missions.

Character level cap 200? Eventually.



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Eleina
May 8, 2007, 07:01 AM
On 2007-05-08 04:57, Magician wrote:

Character level cap 200? Eventually.



Lolol "Eventually" we'll all be dead by then http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Magician
May 8, 2007, 07:04 AM
On 2007-05-08 05:01, Eleina wrote:

On 2007-05-08 04:57, Magician wrote:

Character level cap 200? Eventually.



Lolol "Eventually" we'll all be dead by then http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif



Lol, yeah. I'll probably be playing Elder Scrolls V by the time it comes around.



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Eleina
May 8, 2007, 07:09 AM
I'll probably be playing Final fantasy 20 something by the time lol http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Mystil
May 8, 2007, 08:07 AM
On 2007-05-07 19:51, Itsuki-chan wrote:

On 2007-05-07 19:46, Fulgore wrote:
Psycho wand is definately 12* and Yes, it has been found in JP..so.....walla


I believe you're looking for the world "viola"

But... yes, the psycho wand board has been found on the JP version from sleeping warriors S2. Its an area drop, very low chance. Like crea doubles (maybe even lower).

Its also in the offline data files and hackable offline. Which means they originally planned to include it offline aswell (I guess they just never made it drop anywhere though).



Like the parasitic gene flow.

Golto
May 8, 2007, 09:58 AM
Shinryuu 'Basis/[rikauteri]' typed wrong but thats the 11* bow board. Ah so for S2 ranks of regular free missions with cut-scene bosses 2 11* boards can drop. That still can't cover all 11* weapon boards can it?

Ryna
May 8, 2007, 10:13 AM
On 2007-05-07 19:24, majan wrote:
okay so level 100-119 monsters drop the 10* loot.awesome.let us begin killing them. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_beer.gif

logic tells us that the next bracket above that will be level 120-139 monsters,dropping 11* loot.awesome.[insert "let us begin killing them" here] ........


Just to note, it is currently unknown what the upper boundary is for the 10* drop bracket. Level 119 is currently being used since the item/findings database requires a boundary. Level 119 seems like the most logical one considering the bracket proceeding it was 80 to 99.

Rashiid
May 8, 2007, 10:23 AM
oi......

i wonder how many S weapon [B]'s will be found friday.....

i think you should make a thread for it. instead of 5million 'omg i found a (insert S [B] here)!!"

Kimil
May 8, 2007, 10:36 AM
I'm guessing... Zero

Rashiid
May 8, 2007, 10:37 AM
i say 7-10.

Shiryuu
May 8, 2007, 11:10 AM
On 2007-05-08 07:58, Golto wrote:
Shinryuu 'Basis/[rikauteri]' typed wrong but thats the 11* bow board. Ah so for S2 ranks of regular free missions with cut-scene bosses 2 11* boards can drop. That still can't cover all 11* weapon boards can it?


I know which board it is. It is not listed anywhere on the jp wiki.

It's Shiryuu btw.

majan
May 8, 2007, 11:13 AM
On 2007-05-08 08:23, Rashiid wrote:
oi......

i wonder how many S weapon [B]'s will be found friday.....

i think you should make a thread for it. instead of 5million 'omg i found a (insert S [B] here)!!"



thats actually not a bad idea...maybe start a poll..."what have YOU found this glorious day of s rankage?...and put a poll of all the (known) available weaps...to save the entire message board being spammed with I FOUND SO AND SO AND OMG MY FRIEND JUST GAVE ME THIS!HERES A SCREEN SHOT JUST SO YOU KNOW ITS POSSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tru

Shiryuu
May 8, 2007, 11:18 AM
*waits for people with hacked uransara to start popping out in the first hour or so after update*

Eleina
May 8, 2007, 11:39 AM
On 2007-05-08 09:18, Shiryuu wrote:
*waits for people with hacked uransara to start popping out in the first hour or so after update*



o.0;; lolol and claiming it's legit http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif (forgetting bout the 24 hour synth)

Akaimizu
May 8, 2007, 11:41 AM
But it IS Legit. I just hacked the amount of time it needed to Synth!!!

Eleina
May 8, 2007, 11:46 AM
On 2007-05-08 09:41, Akaimizu wrote:
But it IS Legit. I just hacked the amount of time it needed to Synth!!!



Yea mines legit I bought it in extra mode and imported online http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Golto
May 8, 2007, 11:49 AM
Shiryuu: I pasted that directly from the drop chart for Grove of Fanatics S2 on the JPN psu wiki. So they do have the 11* bow board dropping from that boss box.

Shiryuu
May 8, 2007, 12:27 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v84/Shiryuu/PSU/norikau.jpg
I still don't see it. :/

Golto
May 8, 2007, 01:02 PM
Which one do you use? I go to http://psu.fei-yen.jp/wiki/html/

The 3rd one, http://pgr.sakura.ne.jp/m2/html/ , doesn't seem to be up to snyc to the link I posted.

Shiryuu
May 8, 2007, 01:08 PM
The one I posted was from the fei-yin one.

After clicking your second link though, then checking the fei-yin one again, it completely changed. So that part is weird.

Golto
May 8, 2007, 01:15 PM
Hmm maybe something strange that the web translator you use does with webpage cache? But you do see the 11* bow board now?

Shiryuu
May 8, 2007, 01:18 PM
Yeah, I see it now.

I never visited the pgr one before though. So can't be my cache.

AL1ST0R
May 8, 2007, 01:29 PM
I personally think were not going to get anymore then what we are getting in the 11. i mean don't you see st is milking us for every dime we have and it's really sad already slow slow slow updates nothing to great in these updates. I mean for god sakes it took us 2 months people just to get new clothes ! ! wtf is wrong with that picture ? as for japan they have it made in the sun, guess we see they like to play favortism on their contry and why not ? when psu came out we was supposed to be 2 months behind japan. now were like 3 or 4 months behind and st is doing nothing to fix this on going issue.

majan
May 8, 2007, 02:43 PM
well,they dont give a rats ass now do they?the 10 bucks is still going in their pocket each month...

Eleina
May 8, 2007, 02:45 PM
On 2007-05-08 12:43, majan wrote:
well,they dont give a rats ass now do they?the 10 bucks is still going in their pocket each month...



And thats all what counts http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_mad.gif

majan
May 8, 2007, 02:48 PM
http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_rant.gif

JAFO22000
May 8, 2007, 02:53 PM
Again, people who continue to pay $10/month for this game then complain about being scammed for their money are funny to me!

I know it's been said before, but if you're so fed up with ST and their game, why are you still paying for it? If you feel you're getting scammed or not getting what you paid for, then STOP PAYING FOR IT!