View Full Version : Time to decide, on tiers!!
MrNomad
May 22, 2007, 10:44 PM
Hi all, lets think up a tier list for the race/class hybrids on PSU! For those who dont know, a tier list is a list of characters rated from bottom to top tier by their stats, strengths, etc. Lets go!
Omega_Weltall
May 22, 2007, 11:09 PM
newman fortefighter = top tier
Sychosis
May 22, 2007, 11:13 PM
http://www.avalon5.com/images/flamewar.jpg
Scion
May 22, 2007, 11:14 PM
Where there's smoke...there's fire. *Puts on Burn/Resist*
<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Hikaru-san on 2007-05-22 21:15 ]</font>
Midicronica
May 22, 2007, 11:16 PM
How about them Cast FTs!
No offense, Deja
Omega_Weltall
May 22, 2007, 11:18 PM
FLAME ON! lol ya this is a smoker
Sekani
May 22, 2007, 11:19 PM
Me
^
people
^
You
Niered
May 22, 2007, 11:22 PM
Tiers? You really are asking for a flamewar aincha'?
Powder Keg
May 22, 2007, 11:22 PM
Mommy I'm scared of the fire!
....
Weeaboolits
May 22, 2007, 11:25 PM
HUnies ftw. ;]
Garnet_Moon
May 22, 2007, 11:29 PM
DD and Support Top Tier: Fortetecher
Useless Top Tier: Everything else
Discuss.
Yoshiflash
May 23, 2007, 12:51 AM
The only tier you need...
Top Tier:
C-Sagat A-Sakura P-Cammy A-Bison A-Blanka C/N-Chun C-Guile C-Honda
High Tier:
A-Hibiki C-Rolento N-Iori K-Geese K-Rock P-Kyo A-Vega C-Ken
Mid Tier:
A-Todo N-Maki N-Vice C-Rugal C-Kim C-Yamazaki C-Dhalsim C/A-Eagle N-Akuma N-Mai K-Nakoruru C-Yun A-Joe C/N-Ryu N-Morrigan K-Chang A-Athena
Low Tier:
A-Yuri A-Terry A-Benimaru K-Zangief C-Balrog K-Raiden A-Dan K-Ryo C-Kyosuke A-Haohmaru
Bottem Tier:
A/N-King
Scion
May 23, 2007, 12:54 AM
Lawl...Tiers http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
Mayu
May 23, 2007, 12:56 AM
On 2007-05-22 22:51, Yoshiflash wrote:
The only tier you need...
Top Tier:
C-Sagat A-Sakura P-Cammy A-Bison A-Blanka C/N-Chun C-Guile C-Honda
High Tier:
A-Hibiki C-Rolento N-Iori K-Geese K-Rock P-Kyo A-Vega C-Ken
Mid Tier:
A-Todo N-Maki N-Vice C-Rugal C-Kim C-Yamazaki C-Dhalsim C/A-Eagle N-Akuma N-Mai K-Nakoruru C-Yun A-Joe C/N-Ryu N-Morrigan K-Chang A-Athena
Low Tier:
A-Yuri A-Terry A-Benimaru K-Zangief C-Balrog K-Raiden A-Dan K-Ryo C-Kyosuke A-Haohmaru
Bottem Tier:
A/N-King
LOL
Dj_SkyEpic
May 23, 2007, 12:59 AM
King... >3~
Weeaboolits
May 23, 2007, 01:02 AM
http://www.pso-world.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=476
Scion
May 23, 2007, 01:04 AM
LOL, pwnt. XD
Sexy_Raine
May 23, 2007, 01:11 AM
Anyone with Burning shot/ Dark Shot/ Killer shot combo is top tier because it's broke.
Hunies are bottom tier.
Mayu
May 23, 2007, 01:14 AM
Anyone with 50% ground armor is top tier because umm I don't have it
There <.<
Scion
May 23, 2007, 01:15 AM
On 2007-05-22 23:11, Sexy_Raine wrote:
Anyone with Burning shot/ Dark Shot/ Killer shot combo is top tier because it's broke.
Hunies are bottom tier.
*Attempts to delete post* AAAAAHH!!! AAAAAHHH!!! I can't do it!!!
Bunny's Tier listing:
No. 1 Bunny - The most humble and dangerous bunny in PSU.
no. 2 Cast
no. 3 Newman
no. 4 Beast
no. 5 human
no. 6 Dulk Falkis
no. 7 Olga Flow
no. 8 COWWWWWWWWSSSSSSSSSSSSSSs
no. 9 Chicken
no. 10 polty
no. 11 polty
no. 12 polty
no. 13 polty
no. 14 polty
no. 15 polty http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif
Mayu
May 23, 2007, 01:21 AM
Hey!! What about pannons!
Allison_W
May 23, 2007, 01:26 AM
In before this thread becomes BURNINATION NATION
HUcaseals and FOmarls, REPRESENT! *flashes gang signs*
On 2007-05-22 23:21, Ryuugu-Rena wrote:
Hey!! What about pannons!
they became jelly for the community...http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif
Mayu
May 23, 2007, 01:41 AM
:_; no wonder my sandwich tasted weird
Yoshiflash
May 23, 2007, 01:44 AM
On 2007-05-22 22:59, Dj_SkyEpic wrote:
King... >3~
yeash...not even Dan will hang out with poor little King, even with her androgynous hotness.
Maybe Benimaru can take her out sometime.
<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Yoshiflash on 2007-05-22 23:46 ]</font>
Kimil
May 23, 2007, 01:48 AM
Quick run through!
Hunter
High ATA mod Weps
-Beast
-Cast
-Human
-Newman
Low ATA mod Weps
-Casts
-Newmans
-Beasts
-Humans
Ranger
Low ATP, SE focusing guns
-Cast
-Newm
-Human
-Beast
Damage Dealing Guns, Multi hit or high ATP ( mech/card/etc )
-Cast
-Beast
-Human
-Newman
Force
Attack Techs
-Newman
-Human
-Beast
-Cast
Support Techs
-All Equal (yay for racial equality! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif )
Resta
-Newman
-Human
-Beast
-Cast
There.
Butcher me nao please^^
ljkkjlcm9
May 23, 2007, 01:48 AM
Top Tier:
Fox
Falco
High Tier:
Sheik
Marth
Peach
Middle Tier:
Captain Falcon
Ice Climbers
Samus
Doctor Mario
Jigglypuff
Mario
Ganondorf
Low Tier:
Link
Luigi
Donkey Kong
Roy
Young Link
Pikachu
Bottom Tier:
Yoshi
Zelda
Mr. Game and Watch
Ness
Bowser
Kirby
Pichu
Mewtwo
oh wait... wrong game, owell
THE JACKEL
Scion
May 23, 2007, 01:54 AM
NOOOO!!!! KIMIL!!!! WHY?!?!?
Here Lies:
Kimil
December 27, 2005 - May 22, 2007
R.I.P.
Mayu
May 23, 2007, 01:57 AM
ummm kim got it right <.< False alarm False alarm I think <.<
AweOfShe
May 23, 2007, 02:02 AM
Top Tier:
Hikaru.
Bottom Tier:
Everyone else.
Micro
May 23, 2007, 02:04 AM
On 2007-05-23 00:02, AweOfShe wrote:
Top Tier:
Hikaru.
Bottom Tier:
Everyone else.
I OBJECT!
Scion
May 23, 2007, 02:05 AM
On 2007-05-23 00:02, AweOfShe wrote:
Top Tier:
Hikaru.
Bottom Tier:
Everyone else.
Well, when you're as gawdly as I am, you don't have to mention it. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
Arika
May 23, 2007, 02:11 AM
.... ???
Mayu
May 23, 2007, 02:34 AM
HOLD IT!!!!
Syl
May 23, 2007, 03:12 AM
Top tier:
UR MOM LOLOLOL!!!11!!!
Bottom Tier:
Uh... UR MOM LOLOL
always works, amirite >.>
Criss
May 23, 2007, 03:19 AM
Top tier:
Players who know what they're doing, switch between support/damage/SEs/etc according to the situation and are useful to their team.
Middle tier:
Players who focus on tagging monsters and doing their own damage while keeping his teammates in mind and not being a nuisance.
Low tier:
Random dood who rashly runs into a pack of monsters brainlessly mashing his PA button without scapes thinking forces will do nothing but stay in melee range to resta him.
Freshellent
May 23, 2007, 03:51 AM
"A-hem."
S Class:
Ky
A Class:
Sol,Faust,Testament,Potemkin,Anji
B Class:
A.B.A,Millia,Chipp,Baiken,Johnny,Jam,Axel,Slayer,I-NO
C Class:
May,Eddie,Venom,Bridget
D Class:
Order Sol,Dizzy,Zappa,Robo-Ky
Let me explain why tier lists are bullshit.
A tier list is to show the "best" character in a game. In this case,we are using classes and races,etc. This is based of raw facts(in this case Frame data,Matches won,rounds won etc.) and what has been proven over and over. The problem is it does not account for skill. Here's what I mean.
If you notice,Johnny is in "B" tier. This is supposed to say that Ky who is "S" tier is a better character,and comparatively,Ky,based on hard data will win.
Again this does not account for skill. Tier lists are based on what has been constantly proven,this means that if Dizzy was used consitantly by many players over and over with a specific technique and constantly won,then she would be considered "top tier"
But,because she is not,her potential remains to be unlocked,she is considered "bottom tier"
Now,to relate this to this game.
You want a tier list based on raw damage and stats? That can only go so far,it won't tell you much but here's something.
S tier:
Fortetecher
A tier:
Fortefighter,Fighgunner
B tier:
Wartecher,Fortegunner
C tier:
Guntecher,Protranser
Okay,that's based of from what I can tell. Now,if you want what I think the "real" tier list should be,based on unlocked potential proven skills blah blah?
S tier:
Protranser
A tier:
Fortetecher,Wartecher,Guntecher
B tier:
Fortefighter,Fighgunner
C tier:
Fortegunner
Feel free to flame. It's late and I have nothing better to do. This is all based on opinion anyway.
I guess the point of it all is this.
It does not matter who you play as,your class or whatever,sure there are obvious,more EFFECTIVE ways of doing things. But there is no "BEST"
But then again we all knew this.
You do what is best for you,in some cases,what is best for your party. Of course,we play this game for enjoyment,so your all going to do what you want. If there is a "BEST" the it's actually whoever is enjoying themselves the most. You'll usually find the best parties your in is where you have the most fun. But that's a given.
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Yoshiflash
May 23, 2007, 04:55 AM
LOCK IT NOW ....GO GO GO HURRY!!!! HES BEEN INFECTED!
....WITH RAGE!!!!
P.S: Your tier sucks! MWAAAAAHAHAAAHAAAAH !!!!
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DEM_CIG
May 23, 2007, 06:52 AM
On 2007-05-23 01:19, Criss wrote:
Top tier:
Players who know what they're doing, switch between support/damage/SEs/etc according to the situation and are useful to their team.
Middle tier:
Players who focus on tagging monsters and doing their own damage while keeping his teammates in mind and not being a nuisance.
Low tier:
Random dood who rashly runs into a pack of monsters brainlessly mashing his PA button without scapes thinking forces will do nothing but stay in melee range to resta him.
I soo second that. But cast protransers in the top tier...
Magician
May 23, 2007, 07:07 AM
Lets not and say that we did.
Otherwise, Criss has it on the nose.
Which would make me a low tier player, definitely. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
Weeaboolits
May 23, 2007, 07:35 AM
I say that the class/race combos that are more difficult to play go at the top because they require more player skill. ;]
Shiro_Ryuu
May 23, 2007, 08:04 AM
Top Tier:
Fox
Falco
High Tier:
Sheik
Marth
Peach
Middle Tier:
Captain Falcon
Ice Climbers
Samus
Doctor Mario
Jigglypuff
Mario
Ganondorf
Low Tier:
Link
Luigi
Donkey Kong
Roy
Young Link
Pikachu
Bottom Tier:
Yoshi
Zelda
Mr. Game and Watch
Ness
Bowser
Kirby
Pichu
Mewtwo
oh wait... wrong game, owell
THE JACKEL
On 2007-05-23 01:51, Icespike wrote:
"A-hem."
S Class:
Ky
A Class:
Sol,Faust,Testament,Potemkin,Anji
B Class:
A.B.A,Millia,Chipp,[b]Baiken,Johnny,Jam,Axel,Slayer,I-NO
C Class:
May,Eddie,Venom,Bridget
D Class:
Order Sol,DIZZY,Zappa,Robo-Ky
Funny, the bold ones are the ones that are my favorites, and the one in the caps is the one that I'm the most effective with. In the cast of Super Smash Bros., Marth is my best guy, but for the rest, I seem to be more effective with the lower tier characters, I even suck at most of the higher tiers like Fox and Falco while I'm my friends' worst nightmare with Luigi. Same with Guilty Gear, I'm just a monster when Dizzy's in my hands. This is why like Ein said, tiers are total bullshit.
Sychosis
May 23, 2007, 08:16 AM
On 2007-05-23 01:51, Icespike wrote:
Let me explain why tier lists are bullshit.
A tier list is to show the "best" character in a game. In this case,we are using classes and races,etc. This is based of raw facts(in this case Frame data,Matches won,rounds won etc.) and what has been proven over and over. The problem is it does not account for skill. Here's what I mean.
If you notice,Johnny is in "B" tier. This is supposed to say that Ky who is "S" tier is a better character,and comparatively,Ky,based on hard data will win.
Again this does not account for skill. Tier lists are based on what has been constantly proven,this means that if Dizzy was used consitantly by many players over and over with a specific technique and constantly won,then she would be considered "top tier"
But,because she is not,her potential remains to be unlocked,she is considered "bottom tier"
Just a friendly disagreement, tiers exist based solely on the fact that all characters have differences. The only way you could factually say tiers don't exist is if everyone was equal in every way. One thing you have to learn about tiers is that they DO NOT dictate who will win. Skill obviously plays the biggest role in who wins. Tiers are a guideline that shows who is more likely to win when comparing two equally skilled players.
In the realm of fighting games, some characters are just better, fewer frames to recover, ease of comboing, etc. When you watch high level play, you see the same few characters for the most part, there is the odd, low tier character, played by someone quite skilled. Other than that, the best players will use what has been proven to be the best. If you think a skilled player is NOT going to experiment with a low tier character, you are wrong. If it turned out the a low tier character could decimate 95% of the characters that other high level players use, they will learn that character inside and out.
Now, in relation to PSU, class tiers are a joke. They each serve different purposes, unlike a fighting game, where everyone's purpose is to whoop the other guy more than he whoops you.
Race tiers on the other hand you can't deny. I won't get into it, but really, since all races have different stats/special powers there has to be some order of dominance. That is to say that when comparing players of equal skill, there is a difference among races. Unless of course you believe ST has made the world's first perfectly balanced game (lol).
Weeaboolits
May 23, 2007, 08:22 AM
I think that if tiers are to exist at all, they should be based on the amount of effort it takes to play a class effectively. ;]
Sekani
May 23, 2007, 09:03 AM
Fine, since we're being serious now:
1. Ryno
2. CAST
3. Beast
4. Human
5. Pannon
6. Rappy
7. Lapucha
8. Polty
9. Shadow Moses when playing Aegis Wing
10. Newman
(Had to stay with the whole Newman self-pity vibe)
Omega_Weltall
May 23, 2007, 09:42 AM
I'd order the tiers like this ,from top to bottom
Omega Tom Hnaks
Omega(FF5 boss)
Elque
Cheep Boss Type
The Nightmare SSJ3
Sephiroth
Master Geese
Homer Simpson
Evil Ken
Evil Ryu
....... ugh too many to rank
now FLAME ON!
Mayu
May 23, 2007, 09:42 AM
<.< Bel Pannon> Human
Weeaboolits
May 23, 2007, 10:07 AM
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w8/Ronin_Cooper/Forum/FKL/fkldgekkostate1.png
Sayara
May 23, 2007, 10:12 AM
What is this.
Luigi can't be that low tiered. ._. He's the king of sliding for petes sake.
Plus SSB Yoshi > anyone besides Ness i guess.
LOL...FKL. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif
Weeaboolits
May 23, 2007, 11:27 AM
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w8/Ronin_Cooper/Forum/ronincooperthumbsupcolortransg.gif
ShinMaruku
May 23, 2007, 11:30 AM
Tiers:
Top: One Above all, TRhe Living Tribunal
High: Etenrity,Abraxis,Death,Galactus,Oblivion,Infinity
Mid: Tyrant,Phoenix of the White Crown,The Celesitials,The Watchers,James Howlett,Silver Surfer
Low: Heralds of Galactus,Deities
There you go bitch!
Top: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/de/TLT2.png
High http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f0/Eternity1.png http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/02/Death.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/25/Galactus_close_up.jpg/800px-Galactus_close_up.jpg
mid:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/bf/Endsong1.png/398px-Endsong1.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b0/Celestials.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/55/FALLENSON001.jpg/387px-FALLENSON001.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/02/ANNSILV002.jpg/403px-ANNSILV002.jpg
Shiro_Ryuu
May 23, 2007, 01:27 PM
Well, here goes:
Top Tier: Shiro Ryuu, Kenshiro, Chuck Norris
Lower Tier: Everyone else
everyone seem to care only about themselve!!!!
Bunny rearrange her list:
Top tier: everyone else
lower tier: Bunny!!!!
See that! Cool! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif
Weeaboolits
May 23, 2007, 01:31 PM
-Tier One-
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w8/Ronin_Cooper/bunny.gif
-Tier Two-
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w8/Ronin_Cooper/Forum/FKL/fkldcrucible.jpg
-Tier Three-
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w8/Ronin_Cooper/oldguyfood.png
-Tier Four-
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w8/Ronin_Cooper/Forum/ronincooperthumbsupcolortransg.gif
On 2007-05-23 11:31, Ronin_Cooper wrote:
-Tier One-
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w8/Ronin_Cooper/bunny.gif
hey Ronin! Can Bunny use this gif? Bunny wanna show ppl the charm of the Bunny. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
Akaimizu
May 23, 2007, 01:41 PM
On 2007-05-23 05:07, Magician wrote:
Lets not and say that we did.
Otherwise, Criss has it on the nose.
Which would make me a low tier player, definitely. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
Heh heh.
I wouldn't say you're a low tier player. You just volunteer to drop your tier a bit, when you see me join up. It's always interesting to see someone that confident in my support abilities, as a human guntecher no less. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif
Weeaboolits
May 23, 2007, 01:41 PM
Sure.
ShinMaruku
May 23, 2007, 07:52 PM
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w8/Ronin_Cooper/bunny.gif
Do you really think fate turned us into gods so we can refuse these gifts?
HAYABUSA-FMW-
May 23, 2007, 07:55 PM
On 2006-06-23 02:02, HAYABUSA-FMW- wrote:
On 2006-06-22 12:03, Shadowpawn wrote:
WTFAKUMAHAX!
Passion of the Akuma:
http://www.usagichan.com/Sakura2003/images/Sakura2k3-Sat100.JPG
TOP TIER
PhotonDrop
May 23, 2007, 08:22 PM
Oh my, looks like I have some work to do...
First item on the list:
On 2007-05-22 21:25, Ronin_Cooper wrote:
HUnies ftw. ;]
&
On 2007-05-23 01:19, Criss wrote:
Top tier:
Players who know what they're doing, switch between support/damage/SEs/etc according to the situation and are useful to their team.
The only sensible posts in this entire thread.
Second order of business:
On 2007-05-22 23:11, Sexy_Raine wrote:
Hunies are bottom tier.
Fail.
And what would this thread be without a good old fashioned
You PSU players are weird. >.>
ShinMaruku
May 23, 2007, 08:35 PM
I play NG sigam too so thou art the odd one. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
PhotonDrop
May 23, 2007, 08:41 PM
On 2007-05-23 18:35, ShinMaruku wrote:
I play NG sigam too so thou art the odd one. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
How can I be weird? I don't play PSU. You weirdo. >.>
HAYABUSA-FMW-
May 23, 2007, 08:57 PM
Can people on the internet really feel confident calling someone else a weirdo?
(rhetorical question)
ShinMaruku
May 23, 2007, 09:11 PM
On 2007-05-23 18:41, PhotonDrop wrote:
On 2007-05-23 18:35, ShinMaruku wrote:
I play NG sigam too so thou art the odd one. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
How can I be weird? I don't play PSU. You weirdo. >.>
Sigma >PSU>>PSO So thou art wierd. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
PhotonDrop
May 23, 2007, 09:29 PM
On 2007-05-23 19:11, ShinMaruku wrote:
On 2007-05-23 18:41, PhotonDrop wrote:
On 2007-05-23 18:35, ShinMaruku wrote:
I play NG sigam too so thou art the odd one. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
How can I be weird? I don't play PSU. You weirdo. >.>
Sigma >PSU>>PSO So thou art wierd. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
You got your equalities backwards there, chief.
ShinMaruku
May 23, 2007, 09:35 PM
I am infalible like the Pope.
PhotonDrop
May 23, 2007, 09:38 PM
Ironic that you say that.
ShinMaruku
May 24, 2007, 08:54 AM
Blame the Catholics with their supernatural bullshit.
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