How is your first lv 3 luck grinder day ~ (today REAL TIME R

[Arika]

Topic ^

Now, I bring my all majima,Cometac ,and Beamvulcac to grind according to plan http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

well, I hope this first time, I should get +5 more



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[Ether]

Going to +1 and stopping!

[ljkkjlcm9]

I have an extensive experience with grinding
for those who want to know, I'm currently making a complete chart for 3* luck on A grinders(like I did for B grinders)

but for rough estimation
no chance is 10/10
very high is 9/10
high is 7/10
fifty/fifty is 5/10
low is 3/10
very low is 1/10

from my experience

chart to be posted when I finish

THE JACKEL

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[ashley50]

On 2007-05-28 00:26, Ether wrote:
Going to +1 and stopping!


my thoughts exactly

[Arika]

On 2007-05-28 00:26, ljkkjlcm9 wrote:
I have an extensive experience with grinding
for those who want to know, I'm currently making a complete chart for 3* luck on A grinders(like I did for B grinders)

but for rough estimation
no chance is 10/10
very high is 9/10
high is 7/10
fifty/fifty is 5/10
low is 3/10
very low is 1/10

from my experience

chart to be posted when I finish

THE JACKEL

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The complete chart is on the psuwiki Jp~

THE JACKEL

[ljkkjlcm9]

On 2007-05-28 00:33, Arika wrote:

On 2007-05-28 00:26, ljkkjlcm9 wrote:
I have an extensive experience with grinding
for those who want to know, I'm currently making a complete chart for 3* luck on A grinders(like I did for B grinders)

but for rough estimation
no chance is 10/10
very high is 9/10
high is 7/10
fifty/fifty is 5/10
low is 3/10
very low is 1/10

from my experience

chart to be posted when I finish

THE JACKEL

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The complete chart is on the psuwiki Jp~

then why didn't a smart person copy it to the US wiki? seriously....

THE JACKEL

[Siertes]

I've gotten 8 Deathmakers to +6.

Deal or No Deal, PSOW?!

[Ether]

Grinding A ranks with level 3 luck

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/scarlet-devil/grind.gif

[l_Will_l]

five minutes? im assuming thats 50-50 lol

[Siertes]

Five minutes? LOL! That seemed a bit random.

[Ether]

Google translation is a bit weird at times, like every time the word gun comes up, it translates it to "cancer/gun"

On topic, I'm loving watching people burn insane amounts of haxeta at the grinding counters

[Siertes]

I'm glad I'm burning my ill money on something.

[l_Will_l]

haha yeah me too. im sticking to my safe one grind per a rank atm. so really i have about 70 - 80 a rank weps which in turn im still using all those a+1's and 2s and stuff. least they are going to some use more than like c1 and b1 lol

[ljkkjlcm9]

I got two +10 deathmakers
and I put the chart on psupedia for us english speaking folks, but I made it myself!

THE JACKEL

[l_Will_l]

nice nice jackel

[Siertes]

Wow, I guess Jackel wins this topic http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

[ljkkjlcm9]

funny thing is, I use +1 til level 3, a +8 to 4, a +6 to 5, 3 +9 to 8, 2 +10 to 10

THE JACKEL

[l_Will_l]

and how does that work for ya?

[ljkkjlcm9]

well I just did it again with Xbows, and I now have two +10 Cugo mamba

so seems to do pretty well

THE JACKEL

[Siertes]

Ok Jackel, now you're just pissing me off...

[ljkkjlcm9]

On 2007-05-28 01:57, Siertes wrote:
Ok Jackel, now you're just pissing me off...


but I started with almost 30 deathmakers
and about 20 cugo mamba

only 2 of each left.

And I made over 1000 grinders

THE JACKEL

[Siertes]

Well I guess that changes things. I need to have at least 6 of every weapon once im done grinding. When I reach six left, I stop.

[ljkkjlcm9]

On 2007-05-28 02:10, Siertes wrote:
Well I guess that changes things. I need to have at least 6 of every weapon once im done grinding. When I reach six left, I stop.


I'd never have gotten anywhere if I did that

for Xbows, I had 6 left all +5. I grinded 2 back and forth, both reached 10. 6 left with 4 +5, my friend told me to keep going. They all broke, left me with my two +10

RISK BIG = WIN BIG

(plus if I wanted, I could sell one of each, go out and buy 20 more of each, and do it again, technically)
Either way, I could easily buy 4 more and grind them up to 5. 5 seems to be really easy to get to.

THE JACKEL

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[Finae]

Howrod+10, I originally started with 7 howrods, 6 of them broke at +8 or +9 while this one made it to 10. Was nervous as crap is all I'll say, but I took a gamble. Gives me a rush.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v351/Hyperion594/PSU/Synths/th_Howrod10.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v351/Hyperion594/PSU/Synths/Howrod10.jpg)

Howrod > Halarod, kthxbai

And for fun, I purposely grinded 3 soda creas as high as possible. The first two failed around +5, but this one did quite well until I tried taking it to +10
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v351/Hyperion594/PSU/Synths/th_SodaCrea9.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v351/Hyperion594/PSU/Synths/SodaCrea9.jpg)

# of Howrods used : 60
# @ +8 : 4
# @ +7 : 2
# @ +10 : 1

I won't be taking them any higher until I mass synth another batch of howrods and grinders then I'll take them to the next level. But that won't be for awhile since I'm nearly broke. Anyways it was quite nerve racking and fun to say the least, but I'll never grind my 44-50% melee weapons past 1. Some of those howrods started breaking after the first two grinds. Was more fun doing this than playing the actual game.

[ljkkjlcm9]

until S ranks can be grinded that is.... and by then S2 ranks will be out and S ranks will be better than S2 due to grinding.... and it continues!

I remember when 6* were better than 9* because of grinding

When I can grind my Crea Doubles in AoI though.... mmmm

EDIT: Looking at the stats for S rank Crossbows, a +10 Cugo mamba has almost as much ATP as the 12* and 200 more PP....

THE JACKEL



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[Arika]

Ahhhhh~, BREAK MY~ Granadoc! from 5 ,now left only 1 +6 ><
Now, doing with Cometac and Beam Vulcac!!

[Arika]

from 8 Vulcanic
only 1 survive!! +8 result
From 12 Comectac
only 1 survive!! +9 result

How are your guy ?


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[Aralia]

I maxed out at +5 on my weps, mostly because I needed to keep as many as possible. but...

started with:
4 phantom
3 ulteri
5 howrod
3 cometaroc
4 granarodoc
2 9* shotguns
2 9* grenade launchers
2 Majimra
1 Mira-kikami
3 deathmaker

ended with:
2 phantom +5
2 ulteri +5
4 Howrod +4
2 granarodoc +4
2 cometaroc +5
2 majimra +3
1 Mira-kikami +4
2 deathmaker +5
1 9* shotgun +2
2 9* grenade launcher +2

Yeah.. good day, yes.. but I'da liked to keep my other 2 phantoms.. =/
And yeah, I chickened out with the non-+5's for the most part. I generally decided to go for the next "rounded" number... anything where the Att or Tech ended in a 0 was my goal.. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif;

[Siertes]

Ok, I'm done with this grinding business for now. I'm left with 4xCugo Mambas +5, 2xCugo Mambas +6 after attempting to upgrade my +4 collection and have 6xDeathmakers +8.

6xDeathmakers +8 are more useful then a possible +10 Deathmaker.

[imfanboy]

Heh. But the S-rank crossbows are so much COOLER than the Cugo Mamba. I can't wait to use 'em.

Here's my successes for the day; more modest than some but then even making a 1000 grinders or so I only came out with 5 +10, 5 +9, 30 +8, and that's it that really matters as far as A ranks go.

4 Majimra (5)
2 Mayrod (4) (I broke most of them going from 3-4, sadly... 5 in a row...)
4 Beam Vulcanic (4)
2 Cugo Mamba (4)
2 Shigga Brada (5)
3 Maser Cannon (4)
1 Roksari (5)
1 Roksari (4)
1 Ageha-Kikami (5)
3 Ageha-Kikami (4) (still trying to decide if I can live with just 3, or if I need 4... I can probably deal with 3...)
2 Evil Twins (3)


Huh. Not as impressive as you guys, I will admit, but then, I'm starting with less. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif



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[ShadowDragon28]

I'm 480k poorer, and im quickly going through the "stages of loss" with regards to the weps that i was grinding that just broke; im in the sad phaze.

On 5/28 with my Female Newman, max. Holy Light Fortune. Bad luck still struck...

I mainly miss my Saudoc +8 34% dark element; I grinded it to +9 with a B+10 grinder, then used 1 more B+10 Grinder to get it to +10...
it shattered and scattered to oblivion...
my precious 34% dark "Death Bringer"#1 is...no more http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif



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[Arika]

I don't know whether I should take risk to my last +9 Comectac or not <,<

[Ash1ey]

Mira kikami + 3
Mira kikami + 5
majimra + 4
majimra + 4
majimra + 5
vahra claw + 1
mijin misaki (the npc 34% dark one) +5
tengoh bow + 1
evil twins + 5
evil twins + 4
cometaric + 1

i think thats all I'll do for now http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif maybe more later

[Dhylec]

Guys, good or bad grinds, remember to submit your info to the DB so that we can all use them again in the future.
http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=143077&forum=22&14

[Arika]

Now, I m synthesizing mass amount of Death marker and Cubo mamba , prepare to grind again in the next 12 hour http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif
Zzzzzzzz...... MmeeoOowwww~

[Jakosifer]

...........Im never grinding again

I just broke my 32% Ice Katsuno Zashi (I had got it to 6 too...). So Im just gonna do what I said originally and stick to waiting for AoI.

[F-Gattaca]

I'm definitely grinding all my guns to +1.

And maybe risk grinding further with my extra Phantoms and Drumlines. There'll be a 'five minutes' chance of me doing such a thing.

[Dhylec]

Heh, I set my limit to +3 for now, so it's not so painful to see those grinding girls making a mistake. I lost 1/3 of them grinding to 3, so it's nothing to cry about. ;]

[Arika]

.....can't sleep .... come back count bunnies : http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_bunny.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_bunny.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_bunny.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_bunny.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_bunny.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_bunny.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_bunny.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_bunny.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_bunny.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_bunny.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_bunny.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_bunny.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_bunny.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_bunny.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_bunny.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_bunny.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_bunny.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_bunny.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_bunny.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_bunny.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_bunny.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_bunny.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_bunny.gif Zzzzzzzzzz..........



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[Dj_SkyEpic]

I hate breaking weapons 8 times straight.

[Mio]

4 halarods:

one +6 ( broke at trying +7 )
one +7 ( broke at trying +8 )
one +8
one +9 ( broke at trying +10 )

I have the +8 left, maybe later I'll try more, I have like 30 halas..

[F-Gattaca]

WOw ... I really jinxed myself there.

I broke my first A-rank Very High grind after posting in Tahldon's thread that I never lost a weapon to a Very High grind.

I don't have the money to up and try again, so ... I'm done. I'm only going as far as +1 today.

Hopefully I can round up enough money for another drumline. Ugh.

Here's what's ironic though. I found a Maggac in a player shop, bought it, and ground it to +5 no problem. I'm guessing the higher rank weapons have lower base success rates. It seems odd that people'd be breaking A-ranks left and right on a 3 luck day ...

(Yes, I bought a Maggac. No, I'm not crazy.)

[Tekershee]

On 2007-05-28 08:17, Mio wrote:
4 halarods:

one +6 ( broke at trying +7 )
one +7 ( broke at trying +8 )
one +8
one +9 ( broke at trying +10 )

I have the +8 left, maybe later I'll try more, I have like 30 halas..



Halarods..

[Dj_SkyEpic]

I currently have 2 +9 Ulteri's... Should I try for a +10? X..x''

Nvm. I've had princess Ashley convince me to stay and
wait until AoI or something. After all, about 20 more
damage isn't worth the lost of a weapon at this point^^.

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[Sgt_Shligger]

Fuck the (grinding) system.

I'm not pissed but... I broke my Creasabra, Cometarac, Asami-zashic, B'duki Hadoc, and my Kikamic. All before them reaching +5 on a three star luck day... I was using +6 grinders ;(

[Corran1]

Total phantoms at the start - 14
After grinding
4 phantoms +7
1 phantom +10 XD



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[Alamar]

I have 3 luck today but Playsega is up to its old tricks again. guess I have to wait till next time.

[RedCoKid]

55 cometarac (0) -> 7 cometarac (8)
6 majimra (0) -> 1 majimra (8)
3 mira-kikami (0) -> 2 mira-kikami (4)

Cometarac was an expensive project. I'm relieved it's over, even though I fell short of bringing 6 of them to (10) as I'd hoped.

Also, "high" is ~55% in my experience. :


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[Nobo]

I got a ran-misaki to +5 by doing A+2, A+4. A+5, A+7, A+7

[Mio]

On 2007-05-28 08:36, Tekershee wrote:

On 2007-05-28 08:17, Mio wrote:
4 halarods:

one +6 ( broke at trying +7 )
one +7 ( broke at trying +8 )
one +8
one +9 ( broke at trying +10 )

I have the +8 left, maybe later I'll try more, I have like 30 halas..



Halarods..



I keep writing HALA instead of HOWROD >< sorry

[Shou]

i got 2 9* wands to +9 and one to +8 and cost me about 20 mil lol

[Kimil]

Okay... here';s a question to everyone who has spent millions on grinds...

Was it worth it? Liek, is there ACTUALLY a difference in your damage output?

[Dj_SkyEpic]

On 2007-05-28 11:59, Kimil wrote:
Okay... here';s a question to everyone who has spent millions on grinds...

Was it worth it? Liek, is there ACTUALLY a difference in your damage output?

Of course ;3 I see a high difference with
Rabarta from Howrods. (1200 a mob at buff)

[Shou]

On 2007-05-28 11:59, Kimil wrote:
Okay... here';s a question to everyone who has spent millions on grinds...

Was it worth it? Liek, is there ACTUALLY a difference in your damage output?


Duh now they are as powerful as 10* wepns http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Dj_SkyEpic]

On 2007-05-28 12:03, Shou wrote:

Duh now they are as powerful as 10* wepns http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Especially when they get to +8 and over. You've just gotten yourself an 10* +1 right there. Your choice afterwards is to either try to max it or keep it that way http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif.

[ljkkjlcm9]

On 2007-05-28 11:59, Kimil wrote:
Okay... here';s a question to everyone who has spent millions on grinds...

Was it worth it? Liek, is there ACTUALLY a difference in your damage output?


whether or not the damage output is amazingly better, doesn't matter. As a fighgunner, the best ranged weapons I can get are A ranks. So having two 9* Dual handguns, and two 9* Crossbows at +10, is the highest damage I'll be able to dish out with those weapons EVER!
It's about maximizing my effectiveness on a team!

THE JACKEL


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[Kimil]

hmm... Only problem Is I'd never grind my elemental Melee weps ><
And I don't have many A rank Wands or guns ( one Kubara 8* wand, Deathmaker, Evil Twin, One Drumline, Yashmikov 0002, 9* bow...)

So still no grinding for me for a while T_T ( doesn't matter though, my +10 Crozier and W'Gcros are powerful enough as they are for the mean time till AoI =P )

[ljkkjlcm9]

Just so everyone is aware, YES you won't break weapons in AoI, BUT, if you fail it resets to 0, AND they've lowered the chances of success! SO I say, if you have spares, grind now! You'll have better luck, which is kinda scary to think about.

THE JACKEL

[UberZack]

i had nice luck today! 10 majimras turned into one 9+ and one 10+ but i broke the 9+. Too greedy D:

My howrods broke like crazy after 7+. Got one to 10+ and i had three 9+ and one 8+ ones left. Was going to quit after next break but surprisingly all grinds were successfull so i ended up with five 10+ howrods http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif:D

[SirDeimos]

Ground my 50% nightwalkers once Got 2 phantoms to (2) One thunder cannon (2) broke one thunder all my 8-9* double claws (1) A 9* single (2) broke a gant from 3-4 and got a pair of heave twins to (4) Im done for now its nerve wracking

[Grand_Rider]

The plan was to take my guns (Deathmaker, Python and a Drumline) and my collection of Crea weapons to (3) then quit. Unfortunately, that was not to be.

With a lot of +3 and 4 grinders I used the threes to get everything to (1), great, and then began using the fours to get to (2). The guns were a success and I was applying a +4 to my 6th Creasword when it happened. It broke. Arguably the hardest of my items to obtain and it broke on its second grind with a +4 grinder.

…?!

I was most displeased, but I was prepared to shrug it off, after all, it had a “very high” chance, it wasn’t guaranteed. So, I attempted to take a Twin Crea Dagger from (1) to (2) with another +4 grinder. It couldn't possibly break another weapon in a row, right?

...It broke.

Having already ground all my remaining weapons to the supposedly safe (1) I’d gotten cold feet and was feeling rather annoyed that I’d lost two good weapons on what I had thought would have pretty much been a done deal. Now I’m soloing “Train Rescue A” all over again for that one elusive board that'll probably take me a week to find. I won’t feel confident taking anything that’s an A rank to (2) without a +5 grinder now.

I'm shaken, but all in all it could have been worse.

[Flwl3ssCowboy]

On 2007-05-28 00:28, ashley50 wrote:

On 2007-05-28 00:26, Ether wrote:
Going to +1 and stopping!


my thoughts exactly



hey-o



at least until AoI :3

[ne1first]

For those of you making Xbows, would you be interested in trading your xbow(10) for a shigga bines(10)?

I made a few too many shotguns but fell short on the xbows http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

[Rand0mPhil]

for me, grinding today has been brilliant. i grinded 3 of my ryo-misaki's at least once and my ground ryo-misaki's twice and my jitseen. also my mate had like 20 A ranks to grind, he grinded all of them at least twice and got a few of them up 5 times. wish it was like this everyday lol

[Arika]

For me I think grinding howrod is not really useful since you can use Hararod which is Howrod +8 (so just around 10 TP differenet) and Hararod is a lot cooler than How rod, so Hararod > Howrod anyway.
http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_rabite.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_rabite.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_rabite.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_rabite.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_mushboom.gif


btw, to any1 who think that it gonna be easy in AoI, I don't think it will really that much easier, because SEGA said they will reduced the success rate on grinder, and they also will have different kind of penalty like -1. So, what you gonna waste is not product, but you will waste may be 3-4 times amount of grinder A+10 which is also very expensive.

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[amtalx]

I would still rather shell out 300k on grinders (60 grinders) then spend spend 1 mil replacing only a handful of broken 9*s. If I drop from +7 to 0, boo hoo, I'll survive. If I break several million meseta worth of weapons, which a number of my friends have, my mood will be a bit more sour. Personally, I think they should get rid of all the success rate garbage and just make grinders harder to find.

[ljkkjlcm9]

On 2007-05-28 17:00, amtalx wrote:
I would still rather shell out 300k on grinders (60 grinders) then spend spend 1 mil replacing only a handful of broken 9*s. If I drop from +7 to 0, boo hoo, I'll survive. If I break several million meseta worth of weapons, which a number of my friends have, my mood will be a bit more sour. Personally, I think they should get rid of all the success rate garbage and just make grinders harder to find.


depends on how rare they make them. They've effectively cut out half of the grinded weapons because people are too scared to do it. They'll make up for that in AoI by making grinding harder to do. SO they'd have to make grinders as rare as say... a photonchargecosmo... seriously those things are rare!

THE JACKEL

[Fulgore]

Grinded my Mira to +5 using +9 Grinders all the way.... Stopping there, now it's as good/better with PP, than the Shi-Kikami.....so I'm happy for now......still want the Shi though...*Sigh*

[Mystil]

I was going to do a lot of grind attempts until some idiot passed by and said "lol don't break em".

Since I was jinxed, I stopped grinding. >_>

[amtalx]

On 2007-05-28 17:06, ljkkjlcm9 wrote:

On 2007-05-28 17:00, amtalx wrote:
I would still rather shell out 300k on grinders (60 grinders) then spend spend 1 mil replacing only a handful of broken 9*s. If I drop from +7 to 0, boo hoo, I'll survive. If I break several million meseta worth of weapons, which a number of my friends have, my mood will be a bit more sour. Personally, I think they should get rid of all the success rate garbage and just make grinders harder to find.


depends on how rare they make them. They've effectively cut out half of the grinded weapons because people are too scared to do it. They'll make up for that in AoI by making grinding harder to do. SO they'd have to make grinders as rare as say... a photonchargecosmo... seriously those things are rare!

THE JACKEL



Something like that. Just so that when someone picks up a Grinder A they aren't like "don't pik up that pewp". Instead they would say "l33t!!, now I can get my Phantom to +4!".

[AlphaDragoon]

I got my Buccaneer up to +4 thus far...without any luck bonus. I'm scared to push it any further though, at least without some REALLY high grinders.

[Garnet_Moon]

Dunno about my grind ventures, but my shop has some nice prices for those of you people wanting to break stuff.

1's for 1000, 2's for 1500, 5's for 5000, 8's for 10,000, 9's for 20,000 and 100's for 100,000.

Shop is Tzee Xicu, and undercutting has never been so good for business. I think i'll leave this char for a while... haha, re-making it confuses some people when they go to buy grinders.

I got 2 Ageha-Kikami's to +5, and a Roksari to +5. I'm a little happy and don't feel like taking too nmany chances.

[Deja]

Thanks Tzee, if you come up with any more grinders I'll gladly buy them http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif Just PM me...

[AweOfShe]

Grinded a 50% Pikor to +2. I'm scared to go any farther than that. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[ljkkjlcm9]

On 2007-05-28 17:14, Fulgore wrote:
Grinded my Mira to +5 using +9 Grinders all the way.... Stopping there, now it's as good/better with PP, than the Shi-Kikami.....so I'm happy for now......still want the Shi though...*Sigh*


why would you waste +9 grinders on that?!?!

sigh, some people don't get the mechanics behind grinding!

THE JACKEL

[Retehi]

Broke too many Phantoms, I'm gonna go cry and vomit in a corner now.

[GlacialTerror]

I thought I would be smart today and only grind some b rank machinegucs to get them to about the same pp as a beam vulcanic. Most of them ended up failing before even getting to +4 ._.

[Golto]

started off the day with:
9 phantoms
16 beam vulcanics
6 Cugo Mambas

ended day with:
4x phantom +5
4x Beam Vulcanic +4
1x Beam Vulcanic +5
1x Beam Vulcanic +10 *woot my first +10 weapon ever!!

wimped out grinding the xbows because I'm still lvling bullets for them
4x Cugo Mamba +1
1x Cugo Mamba +3

[Fulgore]

When I get to the point where I just don't care.......then I'll attempt +10 Grinds......for now I'm just plain happy/satisfied having the Actual weapon.....*Sigh*.....*Strokes Wand*

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

[str898mustang]

12 DeathMakers Brought in
3 Deathmaker +10's brought out

10 Majimra's brought in
1 Majimra +10 brought out

Broke all my Granarodocs though http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

[Arika]

7 Granarodocs Brought in
lucky enough to get 1+9 and 1+10 http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
11 cubo mamba brought in
...got only 1 +7 http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_cry.gif
13 majimra brought in
... got only 2 +7 http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_cry.gif again ><

now, I hope for my death marker!!

[Mio]

6 phantoms = two +6, two +5, two broken
6 death makers = two +6, two +5, two broken
15 howrods = two +10, one +8, seven +5, rest broken
2 Majimra = one +5, one broken

[Arika]

Okay collect all 12 Deathmarker now ! Just' do it~

[Deja]

Got 2 deathmaker +5's, two ulteri +5's, 2 cubo mamba +10's, and 2 mira kikimi (or whatever the card 9* is) to +5

For the first grinding day, I'm pleased

[Lone_Wolf_Nasca]

How to even start this list o.O;;; ?

20 Ank Pikors of various elements and %'s ranging from 10 to 24. (non-vital, going for above 5 or bust)

15 Muktrands ( same as above.)

7 Howrods (need 6, 1 break and out)

5 Granarodocs (need 3, 2 breaks and out)

6 Ulteris (need 3, 3 breaks and out)

1 Aksuc, or as I used to refer to it before Ack!-Sucks!(experiment really, and axe with 400 power and 80 ATA HAS to have some secret behind it.

4 Mugungrics (5+ or bust!)

2 Gudda Brebacs (again 5+ or bust.)

2 Majimras (needed them both actually >.>)

2 Cometaracs (taking risk here again <.<)

1 Cresaud

1 Soda Crea

1 Crea Dagger

10 Gudda Gants (5+ or bust)

25 Rapiers (G.R.M ones with 29% ice, try for the 5 highest possible)

Results:

7 Pikors up to (5) and one lucky mistake of (6) on a 18% Ice one, on 50-50 chance no less...

6 Muktrands up to (5), with 10,14,18,18,18,22 %'s on them, was particulary vicious with the 10% one using only A+1 grinders to get it to that point.

6 Howrods (4), broke one going for (5), moved on to the next victim.

3 Granarodocs (6), broke two, last one going for (6) and by the way... 1700+ PP? Why, yes please !! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

3 Ulteris (3), broke the rest at (2) -.- sigh

0 Aksuc, and the mistery is solved! grinds for 71-76 power per grind! o.O, got greedy trying for (7).

3 Mugungrics (5) one with 26% light, like Aksuc, a lot of power per grind (25-27 ?) broke one at (3)

2 Gudda Brebacs, got bold here and got one to (6) lots of power per grind almost matching Gudda Gant, difference of -50 Power when comapared to a (5) Gant, higher acc. would make this a great if not Awsome weapon for beasts, 401 ATA on this thing!

2 Majimras broken at (2)

2 Cometaracs broken at (2) Failed all my wands, and replaced them swiftly =/

All the Crea's up to (1) the stupid wands spooked me to much <.<;;;;

4 Guddas survived, mediocre %'s on them all.

5 Rapiers(6) made, the rest all lost =/, 5 mill down the drain here, hope I can sell the rest during FireBreak tho...

102 came in and only 47 met the standards, and all I used was A+5 and A+8 o.o;;;

[Arika]

most of my thing end up +7 boo!!
I ll wait the next season

[Mystil]

This just needs to be said. You people have a lot of balls. ALOT. My poor butt is too scared to take one of my mayrods past 3 ; ;.

[omegapirate2k]

I got my 38% dark shintsuki zashic to +5, and I don't particularly feel like going further.

[Deus-Irae]

i got 2 Arb Rogas to +10. (my first +10 weps ever)

woot?

[Shou]

On 2007-05-28 00:51, Ether wrote:
Grinding A ranks with level 3 luck

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/scarlet-devil/grind.gif



so to grind it to +3 you should just use Grinder A +1 and it will have the same chance as Grinder A +10??? I need to know so i can stop stressing!!!!!!!!! lol

[ljkkjlcm9]

Yes Shou, I only used +1s to get to 3 and I rarely failed any of those grinds.

THE JACKEL

[Deus-Irae]

On 2007-05-30 07:51, ljkkjlcm9 wrote:
Yes Shou, I only used +1s to get to 3 and I rarely failed any of those grinds.

THE JACKEL



and then what do you use for the next levels? do you allways go for very high if possible or do you take a chance on high?


On 2007-05-28 01:26, ljkkjlcm9 wrote:
funny thing is, I use +1 til level 3, a +8 to 4, a +6 to 5, 3 +9 to 8, 2 +10 to 10

THE JACKEL



im confused about this. (i guess some of it is typos?). you dont use an 8+ grinder to take the weapon to 4, do you?

i like the idea though and its what ive been doing lately. instead of worrying if a higher grinder will give me an advantage. i just want more details on how you do it. thanks.

[ljkkjlcm9]

yes on a 3 luck day, I used a +8 grinder to get to level 4. NOTE: I made over 1000 grinders, had 20 +10 grinders, and more of everything below it. I had over 200 +1 and +2 grinders.

But I would use a +1 grinder til level 3, then a +8 grinder, because to go to grind 4, +8 was the lowest ranked grinder that still had a Very High Chance. Then, I stuck with high chances, so as not to waste +10 grinders for the final 2 levels.

so as I said, +1 grinder to 3, gauranteed then very high chance. +8 grinder to 4, very high chance. +6 grinder to 5, high chance. +9 grinder to 8, high chance. +10 grinder to 10, high chance.

By this method I never go below a high chance, and I utilize all my grinders. I would never use a +8 grinder otherwise, so I figure why not get that very high chance there.

*NOTE: If you don't have tons of grinders like I did, you could use another +1 grinder to go to 4 with a high chance*

Probably the most cost effective way, with the best chance of success. You could use a +10 grinder to get a very high chance to grind to 5, but I don't think it's worth wasting a +10.

THE JACKEL

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[Eliash]

If that didn't make sense for you check PSUpedia: http://psupedia.info/Weapon_Grinding#Luck_level_3_3

[ljkkjlcm9]

On 2007-05-30 09:54, Eliash wrote:
If that didn't make sense for you check PSUpedia: http://psupedia.info/Weapon_Grinding#Luck_level_3_3


yes I made that entire chart as I was grinding my deathmakers then updated it on psupedia, because for some reason, while most of the info is on the jap-psupedia, no one bothers to put it on the english one. SO I just made the damn chart myself and put it up there. I did the B rank 3* luck too! yay!
(that's my entire contribution to psupedia though, those two grind charts lol)

THE JACKEL

[Dhylec]

Again, don't let your failed grindings go to waste. Submit info so that you can use them as reference later. ;]
http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=143077&forum=22&14

[Deus-Irae]

got it now, thanks.