Parum 0% = LOL

[FUFME]

I cant believe Parum is still stuck on 0%, will it ever go past 1% even by end of event?

I heard there are suppose to be new maps added, will that be next week?? I remember Japan having Lab Recovery as one of the Firebreak maps.

[Dj_SkyEpic]

It needs 400k for 1%.

[Eliash]

Correct, that's why most people aren't going to parum atm. The bigest concern is Moatoob, it's a 15-25 minute mission that cannot be spammed as easily as Neudaiz.

[Dj_SkyEpic]

Parum will raise in dramatic % once the new missions comes out only because they drop S rank weapons and has lvl 100+ mobs with good exp.

[FUFME]

yea everyone sould be hitting Moatoob now, poor Moatoob, that darn map has been neglected for the last 6 months.

[MrFortegunner]

wait, do you have to go through to the next place to earn points?

[Xenogamerx]

something is fishy... i see a lot of people doing sea of fire A runs... myself included. Rank S almost every time. Rank A if we screw up. Why is Parum still stuck at 0%? I see more people in Parum than Moatoob... it doesnt make sense at all.

Maybe the guy above is correct, you have to do the second area to count for puification points??????

[Ether]

Its going to be funny when at the end of event Parum is at like 200% and Moatoob is around 35%

[Shiryuu]

It's going to be funnier when Parum stays at 0 at the end of the event due to a bug of some sort.



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[MrNomad]

On 2007-06-01 22:48, Shiryuu wrote:
It's going to be funnier when Parum stays at 0 at the end of the event due to a bug of some sort.



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that or people just dont care =P

[pixelsofdeath]

parum is the busiest place on 360, so many people doing money runs. thing is, they always abandon - so the points (firebreak, not MP) do not register.

[Mystil]

On 2007-06-01 23:08, MrNomad wrote:

On 2007-06-01 22:48, Shiryuu wrote:
It's going to be funnier when Parum stays at 0 at the end of the event due to a bug of some sort.



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that or people on PC/PS2 just dont care =P


Fixed.

[dragoon-girl]

On 2007-06-02 04:40, pixelsofdeath wrote:
parum is the busiest place on 360, so many people doing money runs. thing is, they always abandon - so the points (firebreak, not MP) do not register.



I thought once you get the MP and things it's registered?

[RFB]

On 2007-06-02 05:54, dragoon-girl wrote:

On 2007-06-02 04:40, pixelsofdeath wrote:
parum is the busiest place on 360, so many people doing money runs. thing is, they always abandon - so the points (firebreak, not MP) do not register.



I thought once you get the MP and things it's registered?



I'd like a confirmation about that myself. The game does register your participation, thats for sure, since even if you dont head to the next spot, Bruce has the results. but no way to tell for sure wether the points were added or not.

[A2K]

I'm fairly certain that the points are reported immediately when the trial completes. A lot of people abandon Heat Wave Island as well and it certainly doesn't seem like there's been a detrimental effect on that planet's total.

It's perplexing to me, to say the least. I do see a few people doing runs quite regularly--granted, it's nowhere near the number doing Neudaiz, but one would think that with even just those few it would have at least hit 400,000 points by now.

I like the missions, myself, but they can be difficult to get Rank S in--or any points for that matter--if you take too much time. I imagine that a lot of parties ended up with 0 the first few times they tried and haven't been back since. It requires a level of coordination not necessary since... well, Bruce's Dungeon.

But as has been stated before, when the contaminated seabed missions are added there will probably be little to worry about here. More focus should be paid to Moatoob at the moment, I believe.

[Tahldon]

It's called Priority. Moatoob has less points to acquire than Parum.

Save the biggest for last

It's not a matter of who likes what planet most.

[akratic]

In typical ST fashion, the radical imbalance of points/difficulty is going to be a hurdle in getting people off of Neudaiz and onto Moatoob. I can sleepwalk my level 20 char. through the Nuedaiz B missions and get a ton of MP, cash, and a bunch of purification points. Take the same team over to Moatoob, and we can A-rank the C mission, netting a whopping 8mp and team total of under 1k purification points in the time it would take to do 7 Neudaiz runs.

[Eeyore]

On 2007-06-02 06:01, RFB wrote:

On 2007-06-02 05:54, dragoon-girl wrote:

On 2007-06-02 04:40, pixelsofdeath wrote:
parum is the busiest place on 360, so many people doing money runs. thing is, they always abandon - so the points (firebreak, not MP) do not register.



I thought once you get the MP and things it's registered?



I'd like a confirmation about that myself. The game does register your participation, thats for sure, since even if you dont head to the next spot, Bruce has the results. but no way to tell for sure wether the points were added or not.


Well ST said looking at the stats is not required to registered points after completion of the mission.
http://boards2.sega.com/psu_board/viewtopic.php?p=367959&highlight=#367959

[Neith]

Wait until the new quests, Parum WILL get purified when they release.

For now, the best bet is to focus on Moatoob- once Parum gets the new missions, most people will abandon Moatoob anyway.

[DreamLocke]

They need to add a mission for parum and moatoob that is as spammable as the neudaiz one. The payout for a 5 minute mission there is so ridiculous it's almost like a cheat or hack! We'll all have our advance classes maxed out by June 29th at this point.

[Eleina]

On 2007-06-02 08:58, DreamLocke wrote:
We'll all have our advance classes maxed out by June 29th at this point.



Ain't that already the case *glares at all the crimson beast spammers* http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

I only need the one class personally never found any interest in leveling the others...

[DONTOSE]

LoL I also would rather stay with my one class.

[Orikalin]

GET
OFF
NEUDAIZ

friggin selfish 360 players, its 100% go help other planets.

[Eleina]

Like ppl are gonna leave if the mission rewards are attractive <.< (think crimson beast)

[Dragwind]

I say we all cause a riot on Neudaiz >_>;

[Astarin]

But that's what I don't understand... the Parum Firebreak missions easily have the best rewards, yet the planet is still somehow under 0%.

I mean... c'mon, people. If you're going for best reward for the time spent, Parum >> Neudaiz. It's not hard to learn, and there's always tons of people there who are willing to teach how to S rank.

[Eeyore]

It is still points. Don't be so picky about where they come from.



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[Orikalin]

yes astarin knows, he's done parum runs with me before. we usually get between 6-8 min runs, 148 mp, 16500 meseta, 1 pa frag, very nice exp. its a ton better than neudaiz. IMO, neudaiz is the worst mission rewards. the missions are long for the mp they give, and exp is bleh. Maotoob at least gives you 20k exp for S on A rank. so GET OFF NEUDAIZ

[gundam0079]

fck yeah tell ori

[MaximumBurst]

Does it really matter if we do Moatoob or not? I mean, if we get 40 million points on Neudaiz and 40 million points on Parum, that's still 100% purification, no? The clothing and part discounts are the only things we'd be missing out on by not doing Moatoob.

[Orikalin]

On 2007-06-02 09:40, MaximumBurst wrote:
Does it really matter if we do Moatoob or not? I mean, if we get 40 million points on Neudaiz and 40 million points on Parum, that's still 100% purification, no? The clothing and part discounts are the only things we'd be missing out on by not doing Moatoob.



no, we get an extra unwritten prize for cleansing all planets 100%

[RedX]

On 2007-06-02 09:41, Orikalin wrote:

no, we get an extra unwritten prize for cleansing all planets 100%



Prove it :/

[MaximumBurst]

Oh, well now that's just not fair. They should tell us these things!

[omegapirate2k]

Let's just do moatoob, everyone :/

[Flwl3ssCowboy]

On 2007-06-01 22:48, Shiryuu wrote:
It's going to be funnier when Parum stays at 0 at the end of the event due to a bug of some sort.



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I think it may be something similar (pr maybe im just hitting refresh too soon :P) When I played Parum today, i checked immediately after we S'd a mission but didnt see any change in points from last time, almost as if not only it didnt count my party's points, but also as if we were the only ones doing parum FB, which couldnt be true (but like i said it probably just needed more time to register)

[csmicbcklsh]

Ok, so maybe I'm a little paranoid, but I need to make this observation. So according to the Firebreak website, we currently (11:15 PST on 6/2/2007) have 24,942,431 points out of 80,000,000. According to my math, that should put us at 30% total. However, the number is still 29%. Now normally I wouldn't have freaked out about this, because Sega is probably just a little behind on updating the numbers. However, if you take off the extra points from Neudaiz, to make it an even 20 mil., and do the math again it comes out to 29%.

So after that long explanation, here comes the question. I know the points that were over the requirement for each planet were counted in the Japanese event. But do you think it was possible that Sega decided to change that so we have to purify every planet completely?

[Alamar]

Once again. When the parum lvl 100 missions come out with the 3 new rares the number will skyrocket. Read the 10 posts or more on this subject. Thx.

[gambit04]

well the page says all we need is 80mil so I will guess that we are ok.

Meaning that we will only need 80mil total it doesn't say anything about purifying all the planets.


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[A2K]

Hmm, the overall percentage does indeed seem to be calculated incorrectly.

But that doesn't really change anything. If the excess points on Neudaiz are still counting towards the overall point value (which they are--the overall point value is still correct, even though the percentage isn't), then there's nothing to worry about.



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[csmicbcklsh]

I'm not worried about Parum...I'm worried about us completely purifying Moatoob. The Japanese community didn't finish it, and I'm thinking we won't either, since people can't seem to leave Neudaiz now that it's been completed.

And that's what I was hoping A2K...so it is probably just the percentage.


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[Alamar]

read this previous post with the graph from Japan.
http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=143240&forum=20&37

[DreamLocke]

They made neudaiz too spam friendly and people are just buffing their MP levels. If they made a few new easy missions like that for the other planets we might have a chance...

[A2K]

The missions really can't be removed from Neudaiz, as they're necessary for PA Fragments from Bruce as well as the secret prize, but it would probably be best (although unlikely to happen) if the rewards were, ahem, "rebalanced," given Neudaiz's purification state.


On 2007-06-02 11:40, csmicbcklsh wrote:
I'm not worried about Parum...I'm worried about us completely purifying Moatoob. The Japanese community didn't finish it, and I'm thinking we won't either, since people can't seem to leave Neudaiz now that it's been completed.

And that's what I was hoping A2K...so it is probably just the percentage.

The Japanese did complete Moatoob--the goal was 15 million and they captured 16 or so. For some reason, the point goals for each planet were lower during the Netcash Cup than they are for Operation Firebreak, for some reason (likely to compensate for the MASSIVE amount of spamming Parum received and the subsequent explosion of points.)

In either case, it's not a huge loss if Moatoob isn't completely purified. If we reach the overall point goal anyway the only thing we really miss out on is the full 50% discount on Moatoob's ROAR ROARS clothing items. (CAST parts shops have the same inventory regardless of planet.


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[gambit04]

On 2007-06-02 11:44, Alamar wrote:
read this previous post with the graph from Japan.
http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=143240&forum=20&37



You don't understand what the OP is saying.

He is saying the % purified is not correct and is wondering if we have to save each planet in order to have 100% at the end. He is wondering if ST has changed it since it was in Japan and they saw how easy it was for them to do it after the Parum missions. or something along those lines...

[Packrat]

That's because it doens't update instantly. It updates in intervals (every X minutes). Check the last update time to see when was the last update..

[csmicbcklsh]

That was exactly my point, Gambit. But oh well...we'll see.

[A2K]

On 2007-06-02 10:36, Flwl3ssCowboy wrote:
I think it may be something similar (pr maybe im just hitting refresh too soon http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif) When I played Parum today, i checked immediately after we S'd a mission but didnt see any change in points from last time, almost as if not only it didnt count my party's points, but also as if we were the only ones doing parum FB, which couldnt be true (but like i said it probably just needed more time to register)

The last updated time is displayed in the upper right in Pacific Daylight Time.

[csmicbcklsh]

So...I think I figured out the problem with the percentage value and the total purification points. The percentage isn't the total points out of 80 million, it's the percentage that we've cleaned from the planets. So since the percentage for Neudaiz won't go over 100%, our overall percentage won't change. However, if we do the other planets, the number will go up. But, as said before, we're aiming for the 80 million points, so keep purifying everyone!

[SaiSpagS]

So the japanese only got 16mil on Moatoob?

Damn, we're screwed, if people don't flock to Moatoob and get it to atleast 50-60% by the time those Parum runs come out were boned in the ass as far as 100% purification goes.

Oh well, atleast we still get the point rewards.

[F-Gattaca]

I think the true question at hand is ...

Where are these Fire SEED coming from if a planet is at 100% purification? Too many people eating at Taco Bell with lit matches in close proximity?

Speaking of that, I was almost sure Parum would hit 1% today, but it's only moved 2,000 points from what I've seen. It still has 3,000 to go.

I thought for sure that points were multiplied by the amount of team members in a party doing the run but ... that can't be right at all. What if it's only awarded once for the entire group, rather than times the amount of people participating? Maybe there is merit in high levelers doing runs by themselves ...

[Helly]

On 2007-06-02 11:38, Alamar wrote:
Once again. When the parum lvl 100 missions come out with the 3 new rares the number will skyrocket. Read the 10 posts or more on this subject. Thx.


There's something to be said about placing all of your eggs in one basket....

[maximum01]

if moatoob isn't purified 100% i'd blame sonic team, not the community. i mean how stupid is it that neudaiz having reached 100% purification still has active firebreak missions? that's retarded on so many levels.

if they killed the fire mission at 100% we'd see everyone naturally switch over to moatoob and parum.

also, before people start dissing others for staying on neudaiz you should consider that many people playing the game probably don't even check the firebreak website.

[Shiryuu]

I've been thinking... about the level 100 parum missions. There's a certain level requirement to do those missions, and most likely you will need a full party of 80/10 just to get an S-rank in it. BUT, a lot of those high level people have most likely left out of boredom. It's not really safe to say Parum will be fine when most of the people in the US/EU servers probably won't be even able to play them in A rank.

I'm probably missing something important though. I'm not entirely sure if the point values stays the same at C-A rank or if its based on mp. :/

[Ether]

On 2007-06-03 02:18, Shiryuu wrote:
point values stays the same at C-A rank


They do

[Dj_SkyEpic]

397,699 points... SO close to 1%!!! Wooo! Go Parum!

[Eleina]

I like seeing neudaiz 2 mil points ahead of the taget http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif (lets see if those points can be transfered to the other planets XD)

[Sazan]

The new Parum missions shouldn't be released until Parum purification is 20% or so. THAT would be fun.

[Sylpheed]

On 2007-06-03 03:52, Sazan wrote:
The new Parum missions shouldn't be released until Parum purification is 20% or so. THAT would be fun.



FUN to see parum only ever reach 2%?

[Sekani]

On June 3rd, 2007 at 9:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Parum officially reached 1% completion.