People, please move to Moatoob. [Archive]

Nuclearranger

Jun 2, 2007, 07:09 PM

Moatoob needs help and yet for some reason there is an alarming amount of people still on neudiaz.... I know its got good rewards and stuff... But come on think of the comunity here. If your still on neudiaz and doing firebreak your not helping the comunity.

Neudiaz has gained over 1.5 million since its hit 100% and thats only been 1 or 2 days if that! Think if that was on moatoob we could finish this much quicker.

I guess im asking people to be less selfash here!

~Nuclearranger

Merged w/ this topic I guess

[ This Message was edited by: NuclearRanger on 2007-06-02 17:24 ]

Dragwind

Jun 2, 2007, 07:14 PM

I agree. It's annoying to see that Neudaiz points are still being racked up. It's nerving, even. I still say we should do our part, and stick to Moatoob, and pester those that are on Neudaiz.

Nuclearranger

Jun 2, 2007, 07:17 PM

Go to neudiaz even and get the people to moatoob!

Golto

Jun 2, 2007, 07:17 PM

We can blame 360 for most of those Neudiaz extra points http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[ This Message was edited by: Golto on 2007-06-02 17:22 ]

Korokodo13

Jun 2, 2007, 07:18 PM

Lol... I was AFK in uni 30 after doing some HIVE runs for my BH and left my 360 on so I can play when I wake up, and when I woke I got a msg from someone saying "Go and purify Moatoob now!"... The funny part is I want to go back to neudaiz but something keeping me from going back.... Ever since my friend told me that you have to be lvl55 to do Labs S2 instead of lvl60 ive been going there.... I guess im pretty guilty for not helping the purification...

F-Gattaca

Jun 2, 2007, 07:32 PM

I wound up getting sent an inivte from a Neudaiz spamming FB party while I was at Daghora. I didn't realize where they were until I had accepted the invitation and asked what they were doing; hopefully, though, I convinced the group to come to Moatoob before I left to join a Scorched Valley run.

They wanted to justify their lack of Moatoob partiipation by citing Parum's 0% status, but I told them about the supar rewardz runs Parum will get later on during the event.

Raven5_1

Jun 2, 2007, 07:48 PM

did a couple c and b runs of moatoob went up 2 levels

Soukosa

Jun 2, 2007, 08:25 PM

On 2007-06-02 13:22, Golto wrote:
Lol you actually think someone will go through all the trouble to make up numbers?

It's not listed on the official site so how would they be able to get it? They could just take the numbers that are listed on there and divide up it to make things look the way they want it to rather easily. The background image on the site doesn't exactly give the feeling of credibility either.

Sekani

Jun 2, 2007, 09:04 PM

On 2007-06-02 18:25, Sounomi wrote:

On 2007-06-02 13:22, Golto wrote:
Lol you actually think someone will go through all the trouble to make up numbers?

It's not listed on the official site so how would they be able to get it? They could just take the numbers that are listed on there and divide up it to make things look the way they want it to rather easily. The background image on the site doesn't exactly give the feeling of credibility either.

Well, if someone knows Flash programming I don't think it would be too difficult to grab the data streams out of Sega's SWF on the official site. Whether or not Sega wants them doing that is another story.

I personally wish they hadn't, because then potentially inflammatory topics like this are created. Despite our higher population, I assume everyone is aware that there are more active PSOW members on the PC/PS2 platform, and thus this site arguably has a lot more influence over there.

ShadowDragon28

Jun 2, 2007, 09:08 PM

People on 360 servers need to try and get more people to move to Moatoob.. It's really ridicuolus that people are still on Neudaizs spamming the FB mission when the planet is 100% purified... -__- *sigh*

[ This Message was edited by: ShadowDragon28 on 2007-06-02 19:10 ]

darthplagis

Jun 2, 2007, 09:17 PM

well im gettim my credit card in a weeks time, so how long should it take till i can hit 360 FB missions?? if i am in time??

i'll do my bit in spreading the word too hehehe we need that crazy super holy light!!!

Parn

Jun 2, 2007, 09:37 PM

The problem lies in the fact that there is nothing within the gameworld itself that tells players that the planet is purified. This is further compounded by the missions to purify Neudaiz are still remaining, even though there technically is nothing left to purify. Add in the fact that the Moatoob mission rewards are absurdly low compared to Neudaiz and Parum, and you basically have a problem.

physic

Jun 2, 2007, 09:42 PM

moatoob rewards arent low, they are just hard to get S on, parum prolly is teh best cash, but nobody does it anyhow

Raven5_1

Jun 2, 2007, 09:47 PM

On 2007-06-02 19:37, Parn wrote:
The problem lies in the fact that there is nothing within the gameworld itself that tells players that the planet is purified. This is further compounded by the missions to purify Neudaiz are still remaining, even though there technically is nothing left to purify. Add in the fact that the Moatoob mission rewards are absurdly low compared to Neudaiz and Parum, and you basically have a problem.

couldnt the GM's anounce it? we know that there is an announcement system inplace.

Korokodo13

Jun 2, 2007, 09:49 PM

I told my friend to go to neudaiz and tell everyone to go and purify Moatoob, I told him if he got the percent purified up a few points I'd give him 150K regardless how poor I am http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

ShadowDragon28

Jun 2, 2007, 09:50 PM

The Moatoob FB mission's best "rewards" is the darn good amount of XP, and the IMO its high *fun factor.*

I havn't had this much fun since playing "Moonlight Beast" and PSO's Endless Nightmare missions...

pikachief

Jun 2, 2007, 09:51 PM

Every i try to get to move says it gives good rewards and that they said that were still getting all the rewards except for the moatoob clothes discount because the points we get on nudaiz still add up http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

Raven5_1

Jun 2, 2007, 10:15 PM

On 2007-06-02 19:51, pikachief wrote:
Every i try to get to move says it gives good rewards and that they said that were still getting all the rewards except for the moatoob clothes discount because the points we get on nudaiz still add up http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

theyre mistaken as a good chunk of rewards are tied to percentage not points and any points over 100% completion of neudaiz dont count towards overall percentage completion of firebreak so they could get 40,000,000 on neudaiz and it would still only count for 25% of the event completed.

pikachief

Jun 2, 2007, 10:16 PM

On 2007-06-02 20:15, Raven5_1 wrote:

On 2007-06-02 19:51, pikachief wrote:
Every i try to get to move says it gives good rewards and that they said that were still getting all the rewards except for the moatoob clothes discount because the points we get on nudaiz still add up http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

theyre mistaken as a good chunk of rewards are tied to percentage not points and any points over 100% completion of neudaiz dont count towards overall percentage completion of firebreak so they could get 40,000,000 on neudaiz and it would still only count for 25% of the event completed.

actually there are no rewards for total percentage.... just for total points http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

zandra117

Jun 2, 2007, 10:25 PM

someone needs to FSOD neudaiz now, 90% of the xbox 360 server is there now. the party list goes half way down page 2 and there is soo many people in the lobby it lags.

EDIT: correction party list is on page 3 now

[ This Message was edited by: zandra117 on 2007-06-02 20:28 ]

Korokodo13

Jun 2, 2007, 10:25 PM

On 2007-06-02 19:51, pikachief wrote:
Every i try to get to move says it gives good rewards and that they said that were still getting all the rewards except for the moatoob clothes discount because the points we get on nudaiz still add up http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

Im still trying to think if that made any sense at all... yeah but if you notice most people wear the moatoob clothes and a discount would be good for moatoob because everyones sporting it and others will want to aswell but at lower prices...

The_Big_Show

Jun 2, 2007, 10:26 PM

Im confused as far as I can tell the only downside of not purifying Moatoob completely is that we dont get the discounts and we dont get 100% purification, however we still get the 1 week of luck if we get 80 million points, is that right?

zandra117

Jun 2, 2007, 10:28 PM

neudaiz party list is on page 3 now

Raven5_1

Jun 2, 2007, 10:30 PM

On 2007-06-02 20:16, pikachief wrote:

On 2007-06-02 20:15, Raven5_1 wrote:

On 2007-06-02 19:51, pikachief wrote:
Every i try to get to move says it gives good rewards and that they said that were still getting all the rewards except for the moatoob clothes discount because the points we get on nudaiz still add up http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

theyre mistaken as a good chunk of rewards are tied to percentage not points and any points over 100% completion of neudaiz dont count towards overall percentage completion of firebreak so they could get 40,000,000 on neudaiz and it would still only count for 25% of the event completed.

actually there are no rewards for total percentage.... just for total points http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

i know however using the excuse/lie above would seem sufficiently truthful enough(as its passed on partially truthfulinfo) to get some of them to go to moatoob

zandra117

Jun 2, 2007, 10:35 PM

The reward is for the overall purification rate percentage. I PMed Clumsyorchid about it and it is confirmed. Guardians are supposed to protect the Gurhal system, why should they be rewarded if they leave planets abandoned.

Yoshiflash

Jun 2, 2007, 10:41 PM

On 2007-06-02 10:18, Eleina wrote:
Wow lol Pc/Ps2 servers are really empty <.<

Yes...I just went to Uni 2 Moatoob as my 80/10 just to help purify and I couldnt even get a full A team.

3 stars max now on peak hours. Even with an event going on.

Its sad, but in my mind I deem PC PSU officially dead. I think the population actually declined since the start of firbreak. Good luck with the purification guys. Maybe I'll see you on the expansion.

DurakkenX

Jun 2, 2007, 10:58 PM

On 2007-06-02 20:35, zandra117 wrote:
The reward is for the overall purification rate percentage. I PMed Clumsyorchid about it and it is confirmed. Guardians are supposed to protect the Gurhal system, why should they be rewarded if they leave planets abandoned.

so basically we get screwed because they can't correctly tell us what we are rewarded for...nice ^.^

zandra117

Jun 2, 2007, 11:01 PM

they told us correctly, you just didnt read it right.

ShadowDragon28

Jun 2, 2007, 11:44 PM

Common ppl on PC/PS 2 servers stop hanging around outside the Moatoob Flyer Base ane play the darn FB mission.. it's still at 18%!

XBOX 360 server players PLEASE get the f**k off Neudaiz and do the FB mission on Moatoob! Jeez! WTF is people's problem?

Almighty_Envy

Jun 2, 2007, 11:52 PM

Everyone get off of neudez now. Move to moatoob or your lord will be angry http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_evil.gif

gundam0079

Jun 2, 2007, 11:55 PM

wow i just checked the site and 2million points after 100% wtf.

ShadowDragon28

Jun 2, 2007, 11:57 PM

GET OFF NEUDAIZ. (sorry for yelling.) >:-|

Almighty_Envy

Jun 3, 2007, 12:04 AM

Okay time for someone to get the 1337 h4x0rz and somehow blow neudez up, its our only hope

Africa

Jun 3, 2007, 12:08 AM

At this point in the game are you guys really surprised. I mean it has been going on since psu started. I'm reffering to ppl running 'pointless' missions repeatedly like cattle. I knew that I would miss this event but what's the point in st doing them if ppl are like f-it i'll do the easiest one possible and only that? There are even posts on the official site with ppl talking about 'boycotting' moatoob and parum. I say if you can play psu and want to try to accomplish the goal just ignore them and forge ahead and try. The cattle that happens to be most of the population will eventually move when they are corraled that way, til then just keep on keepin' on.

Almighty_Envy

Jun 3, 2007, 12:12 AM

On 2007-06-02 22:08, Africa wrote:
At this point in the game are you guys really surprised. I mean it has been going on since psu started. I'm reffering to ppl running 'pointless' missions repeatedly like cattle. I knew that I would miss this event but what's the point in st doing them if ppl are like f-it i'll do the easiest one possible and only that? There are even posts on the official site with ppl talking about 'boycotting' moatoob and parum. I say if you can play psu and want to try to accomplish the goal just ignore them and forge ahead and try. The cattle that happens to be most of the population will eventually move when they are corraled that way, til then just keep on keepin' on.

So.... we blow Neudez up?? yes? No??

Sekani

Jun 3, 2007, 12:19 AM

Neudaiz's points are just as good as Moatoob's points. As long as we get 80 mil, who cares?

What? You really need that clothes discount that badly?

Almighty_Envy

Jun 3, 2007, 12:20 AM

hmm a thought occured to me, if we blow Neudez up the people will die as well....o well i guess its a sacrfice we have to make

ShadowDragon28

Jun 3, 2007, 12:29 AM

If I knew how to type in JP and e-mail ST, I would ask them to remove/lock the FB missions on Neudaiz.

The % of purifaction on a particular planet adds more to the complete pnt total and total purification %.

Neudaiz is DONE. Moatoob's FB mission is FUN and has plenty of XP and can drop lots of good synth materials, like Copernia...

Those still on Neudaiz PLEASE go to Moatoob, spam the FB mission there. It will be FUN!

Almighty_Envy

Jun 3, 2007, 12:31 AM

I spammed moatoob like 10 times today and i wasnt even supposed to be on psu >.>

Calibur

Jun 3, 2007, 12:34 AM

On 2007-06-02 10:15, Golto wrote:
Now the pc/ps2 population is still shrinking and can barely get 3 full stars at peak hours. Pc/ps2 is doing our part now 360 has to step up.

Well, Fire Break kill lakeshore

killing lakeshore = loss in population

heck, there was this guy in east parum telling people to stop playing Fire Break and go back to Lakeshore...

Africa

Jun 3, 2007, 12:40 AM

I was reffering to the fact that ppl seem to be pissed that ppl are still on neudaiz. It doesn't effect me other than if we can get the frying pan, because i'll miss the entire event.Here's a summation of what i said : since psu started ppl have been spamming certain missions and will continue to do so. Also I reffered to said ppl as cattle meaning they go were they are told to ie being hearded. The last point was to just try to do moatoob if you want because t's your choice and dedicated ppl may get the planet done.

Zorafim

Jun 3, 2007, 12:46 AM

The game seems to be made in such a way that cattling is the only way to play. People find out that a mission gives a hell of alot more bang for their buck, so they only do that one (since other missions are just wastes of time). Other people can't find parties in the fun missions, so they go to where the boring missions are since that's the only place they can get parties. Here, they have a large selection of parties to choose from, and people can join and leave parties as they wish.
It's a flaw that ST should have seen coming.

Africa

Jun 3, 2007, 12:54 AM

That's very true, and a shame. It's expected at this point though, so good luck to everyone whatever your choice is for firebreak.

ShadowDragon28

Jun 3, 2007, 12:59 AM

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t127/ShadowDragon28/psu-wtf1.jpg

zandra117

Jun 3, 2007, 12:59 AM

On 2007-06-02 22:46, Zorafim wrote:
The game seems to be made in such a way that cattling is the only way to play. People find out that a mission gives a hell of alot more bang for their buck, so they only do that one (since other missions are just wastes of time). Other people can't find parties in the fun missions, so they go to where the boring missions are since that's the only place they can get parties. Here, they have a large selection of parties to choose from, and people can join and leave parties as they wish.
It's a flaw that ST should have seen coming.

How come JP users were never affected by this flaw?

VanHalen

Jun 3, 2007, 01:11 AM

On 2007-06-02 22:59, ShadowDragon28 wrote:
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t127/ShadowDragon28/psu-wtf1.jpg

lol

On 2007-06-02 22:19, Sekani wrote:
Neudaiz's points are just as good as Moatoob's points. As long as we get 80 mil, who cares?

What? You really need that clothes discount that badly?

Yeah.

MrNomad

Jun 3, 2007, 01:24 AM

*sigh* Do the 360 players really not care to help in the purification and just do the same neu mission? It really looks like the ps2/pc players will be the only ones able to save moatoob =P hopefully we can pury a good % before those parum missions come!

Sychosis

Jun 3, 2007, 01:25 AM

On 2007-06-02 22:59, zandra117 wrote:

On 2007-06-02 22:46, Zorafim wrote:
The game seems to be made in such a way that cattling is the only way to play. People find out that a mission gives a hell of alot more bang for their buck, so they only do that one (since other missions are just wastes of time). Other people can't find parties in the fun missions, so they go to where the boring missions are since that's the only place they can get parties. Here, they have a large selection of parties to choose from, and people can join and leave parties as they wish.
It's a flaw that ST should have seen coming.

How come JP users were never affected by this flaw?

You mean like the way half of them went to Labs S2 during Netcash Cup because all the other good missions were removed?

VanHalen

Jun 3, 2007, 01:26 AM

On 2007-06-02 23:25, Sychosis wrote:

On 2007-06-02 22:59, zandra117 wrote:

On 2007-06-02 22:46, Zorafim wrote:
The game seems to be made in such a way that cattling is the only way to play. People find out that a mission gives a hell of alot more bang for their buck, so they only do that one (since other missions are just wastes of time). Other people can't find parties in the fun missions, so they go to where the boring missions are since that's the only place they can get parties. Here, they have a large selection of parties to choose from, and people can join and leave parties as they wish.
It's a flaw that ST should have seen coming.

How come JP users were never affected by this flaw?

You mean like the way half of them went to Labs S2 during Netcash Cup because all the other good missions were removed?

This is the reason why we are better! Now but seriously we gotta get Moatoob done before Parum's lvl 100 monsters attack.

Nuclearranger

Jun 3, 2007, 01:38 AM

We can do this if we get the information out.

PC and PS2 servers are packed onto moatoob besides 10 or so of em.
Hopefully sega fixes some ballencing issues in AOI.. Like if you spam missions they become less and less rewarding

zandra117

Jun 3, 2007, 01:39 AM

they still think that 100% purification only gets them clothes, even after all of those math equasions i did showing the reality behind the points on the main forums and the PM I got from clumsy answering our question.

Eeyore

Jun 3, 2007, 01:41 AM

On 2007-06-02 23:39, zandra117 wrote:
they still think that 100% purification only gets them clothes, even after all of those math equasions i did showing the reality behind the points on the main forums and the PM I got from clumsy answering our question.

oh yeah. well I got e-mail from ST that says you are wrong.

Sychosis

Jun 3, 2007, 01:44 AM

On 2007-06-02 23:24, MrNomad wrote:
*sigh* Do the 360 players really not care to help in the purification and just do the same neu mission? It really looks like the ps2/pc players will be the only ones able to save moatoob =P hopefully we can pury a good % before those parum missions come!

Yeah, because we totally haven't gotten 19 million points ourselves. We totally haven't made any contributions http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif

On 2007-06-02 23:39, zandra117 wrote:
they still think that 100% purification only gets them clothes, even after all of those math equasions i did showing the reality behind the points on the main forums and the PM I got from clumsy answering our question.

All of the rewards are based on points, not %.

zandra117

Jun 3, 2007, 01:46 AM

what is this email? was it from Juan? Juan just goes by written guides, which is probably the same thing we have and isn't really in the psu team like clumsy.

Sekani

Jun 3, 2007, 01:47 AM

On 2007-06-02 23:39, zandra117 wrote:
they still think that 100% purification only gets them clothes, even after all of those math equasions i did showing the reality behind the points on the main forums and the PM I got from clumsy answering our question.

The reality is that 80 million points = 100%, regardless of what planet they come from. Why is that so hard for you all to understand?

VanHalen

Jun 3, 2007, 01:48 AM

On 2007-06-02 23:47, Sekani wrote:

On 2007-06-02 23:39, zandra117 wrote:
they still think that 100% purification only gets them clothes, even after all of those math equasions i did showing the reality behind the points on the main forums and the PM I got from clumsy answering our question.

The reality is that 80 million points = 100%, regardless of what planet they come from. Why is that so hard for you all to understand?

We understand that but don't the other planet's need to be saved too? Think about the children!

[ This Message was edited by: VanHalen on 2007-06-02 23:51 ]

Sychosis

Jun 3, 2007, 01:50 AM

On 2007-06-02 23:48, VanHalen wrote:

We understand that but don't the other planet's need to be saved too. Think about the children!

Beast children can burn for all I care.

I do want to save Moatoob though

VanHalen

Jun 3, 2007, 01:55 AM

Some of them you can't even tell they are children. She says she's 18 but I don't know >_>. Arggh I wish I could get on now http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

zandra117

Jun 3, 2007, 01:57 AM

On 2007-06-02 23:47, Sekani wrote:

On 2007-06-02 23:39, zandra117 wrote:
they still think that 100% purification only gets them clothes, even after all of those math equasions i did showing the reality behind the points on the main forums and the PM I got from clumsy answering our question.

The reality is that 80 million points = 100%, regardless of what planet they come from. Why is that so hard for you all to understand?

try dividing the current amount of points by 80 million, I bet you it doesnt match correctly with the percent. Thats because neudaiz points dont count anymore.

Sekani

Jun 3, 2007, 02:03 AM

On 2007-06-02 23:57, zandra117 wrote:

On 2007-06-02 23:47, Sekani wrote:

The reality is that 80 million points = 100%, regardless of what planet they come from. Why is that so hard for you all to understand?

try dividing the current amount of points by 80 million, I bet you it doesnt match correctly with the percent. Thats because neudaiz points dont count anymore.

You're focusing so narrowly on the 30% number that you're not realizing that it doesn't count. The big number, the one that says 26 million, is the one that counts. When that number goes up to 80 million, we get stuff. If Moatoob dies, oh well. It's not like anyone ever went there before anyway.

[ This Message was edited by: Sekani on 2007-06-03 00:03 ]

Helly

Jun 3, 2007, 02:04 AM

What if there's a super secret ultra prize for clearing all planets? We may never know. ;_;

Besides what sense does doing 1 mission out of 5 that we may never see again make?

I also think people are relying to much on the upcoming Parum missions. The place should at least be 5% by now yet its been a complete flop.

Sekani

Jun 3, 2007, 02:06 AM

Well if some people here spent as much time purifying Moatoob as they did badmouthing 360 players, the planet would be done by now, and this wouldn't be an issue.

zandra117

Jun 3, 2007, 02:07 AM

well what is that percent for then, its not a useless percent because all the percents on that site are for something. i know its the overall purification percent but what prize is it linked to? it has to be the luck prize. The planet percents are the clothing prize.

Sychosis

Jun 3, 2007, 02:12 AM

All the rewards are X/Y points. Not percent. We got our first day of luck at 10 million points, not because we hit 12.5%

Helly

Jun 3, 2007, 02:13 AM

For the record I've done the Moatoob mission 43 times vs 27 times for the other 4 missions COMBINED. Those totals may not seem like much compared to others but I'm doing my part on the limited time/energy I've had lately.

Sekani

Jun 3, 2007, 02:16 AM

On 2007-06-03 00:07, zandra117 wrote:
well what is that percent for then, its not a useless percent because all the percents on that site are for something. i know its the overall purification percent but what prize is it linked to? it has to be the luck prize. The planet percents are the clothing prize.

http://phantasystaruniverse.jp/event/fire2007_en/reward.html

Kraxius

Jun 3, 2007, 04:13 AM

Getting rid of the 2 Neudaiz missions is a bad idea. You get rid of the ability to complete all 5 missions to get the PA Frag rewards for it. As a Lvl 30+, this is the only way to get them for me right now. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Sylpheed

Jun 3, 2007, 06:45 AM

On 2007-06-03 02:13, Kraxius wrote:
Getting rid of the 2 Neudaiz missions is a bad idea. You get rid of the ability to complete all 5 missions to get the PA Frag rewards for it. As a Lvl 30+, this is the only way to get them for me right now. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

That PA reward is useless to higher level players, heck all you need is lvl 55 and you can get 2 PA's every lab run. Granted no one should be doing labs right now -.-

Mystil

Jun 3, 2007, 07:35 AM

On 2007-06-02 10:02, Sychosis wrote:
Here's an idea: Why not get both 360 users still on Neudaiz, AND the PC/PS2 users on Neudaiz to move as well?

So, you're also having that problem..

Pheromone

Jun 3, 2007, 09:04 AM

What use is this Super Holy LIght anyway?

Dhylec

Jun 3, 2007, 09:17 AM

On 2007-06-03 07:04, Pheromone wrote:
What use is this Super Holy LIght anyway?

It's what we've been calling as 'Lv3 luck'. It's the shining star that gives you a boost in grinding & DAR.

Golto

Jun 3, 2007, 09:52 AM

On 2007-06-03 05:35, Mystil wrote:

On 2007-06-02 10:02, Sychosis wrote:
Here's an idea: Why not get both 360 users still on Neudaiz, AND the PC/PS2 users on Neudaiz to move as well?

So, you're also having that problem..

Pc/ps2 really doesn't have the same problem of massive apathy and selfishness as the 360 when it comes to doing Moatoob.

Sure there will be some wasted points from the pc/ps2 for Neudiaz but nowhere near what the 360 people are still doing.

Yesterday 360 earned 1,406,375 points to Neudiaz, pc/ps2 earned 294,730. That is well above the usuall ratio of 3:1.

Yesterday 360 earned 243,438 points to Moatoob while pc/ps2 earned 212,181. Almost a ratio of 1:1 is pretty sad considering 360 has a 3.5-4x larger active population.

Moatoob sure could have used that extra million+ the 360 earned for Neudiaz. If every active 360 player could only do the Moatoob mission 4 times a day we would be in good shape. Its not like they have to do 8 hours a day of Moatoob. The pc/ps2 population is so small they really can't make up the difference.

I've done the Moatoob mission close to 100 times so far. How many 360 player can say they've even done it 10 times?

Pheromone

Jun 3, 2007, 10:12 AM

On 2007-06-03 07:17, Dhylec wrote:

On 2007-06-03 07:04, Pheromone wrote:
What use is this Super Holy LIght anyway?

It's what we've been calling as 'Lv3 luck'. It's the shining star that gives you a boost in grinding & DAR.

Call me selfish, but I won't be helping in Moatoob for JUST level 3 luck. I'd rather get my level 57 newman to fT quickly

MrNomad

Jun 3, 2007, 10:23 AM

On 2007-06-03 08:02, Sekani wrote:

On 2007-06-03 00:06, Sekani wrote:
Well if some people here spent as much time purifying Moatoob as they did badmouthing 360 players, the planet would be done by now, and this wouldn't be an issue.

Well, if the 360 people could ACTUALLY do the moatoob mission, we wouldnt be getting so much badmouthing, hmm? just a thought =P

RedX

Jun 3, 2007, 10:24 AM

On 2007-06-03 08:02, Sekani wrote:

On 2007-06-03 00:06, Sekani wrote:
Well if some people here spent as much time purifying Moatoob as they did badmouthing 360 players, the planet would be done by now, and this wouldn't be an issue.

Not really, since we purify and bad mouth http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

yay multi-tasking http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

Sekani

Jun 3, 2007, 10:34 AM

Wow. You PC players are all so awesome and dedicated. Doesn't look like you need any 360 player's help to purify Moatoob at all. I think I'll just go back to spamming Neudaiz. Or better yet, maybe Rainbow Beast. Keep up the good work guys, we're rooting for you!!

Parn

Jun 3, 2007, 10:43 AM

Call me crazy but... I don't think badmouthing 360 players on PSOW whom are already doing Moatoob missions is effective. The majority of the 360 playerbase does not read or post on PSOW or the official website, and all you're doing is alienating the ones who are contributing. This senseless bickering over the Firebreak event is rapidly making me lose interest. You're turning what should be a fun time into an obligatory job. I quit Final Fantasy XI for a reason. Please don't do this.

chibiLegolas

Jun 3, 2007, 10:53 AM

On 2007-06-03 08:12, Pheromone wrote:
Call me selfish, but I won't be helping in Moatoob for JUST level 3 luck. I'd rather get my level 57 newman to fT quickly

I know the rewards may not be great for some ppl. But ALL guardians out there are asking for everyone's help to purify Maotoob. Please help out the team if you have the time by doing a few runs per day. And strive for S on C rank if you must.

This mission is STILL great for leveling PA's and gaining exp. So for those who are MP farming, you STILL need to work in your various skills/bullets/techs anyways, so why not do it now while there's a player base out for Moatoob's firebreak? Or just throw in a few Moatoob runs in with your Neudiz farming if you must.
Point is, we need help! Please contribute if you can!
http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

Ithildin

Jun 3, 2007, 11:04 AM

I'm going there now! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Golto

Jun 3, 2007, 12:32 PM

I would like to thank the 8% of 360 players who are doing Moatoob.

Eleina

Jun 3, 2007, 12:40 PM

Even firebreak can't attract ppl to moatoob http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

omegapirate2k

Jun 3, 2007, 12:44 PM

On 2007-06-03 10:32, Golto wrote:
I would like to thank the 8% of 360 players who are doing Moatoob.

Your WELCOME

Mystil

Jun 3, 2007, 12:48 PM

On 2007-06-02 10:21, RedX wrote:

On 2007-06-02 10:02, Sychosis wrote:
Here's an idea: Why not get both 360 users still on Neudaiz, AND the PC/PS2 users on Neudaiz to move as well?

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1983708

Neudaiz

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/1196/neu1ty5.jpg

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/373/neu2vp1.jpg

Moatoob

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/2521/moa1ui1.jpg

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/6417/moa2og3.jpg

Owned.

Still though there are people who do FB in the Agata Relics area.

[ This Message was edited by: Mystil on 2007-06-03 10:49 ]

physic

Jun 3, 2007, 12:58 PM

I think the lack of feedback is a mjor reason that people still do neudaiz, i know its easy but the rewards really arent that great, if it was about teh mp and cash people would do parum raffron for like 1k mp 100k per hour with S rank in like 9 minutes. Moatoob is more about exp, since its actually hard to get an S in (at high difficulty)
BEst way is to let people know its time to do moattoob, the game actually tells people to do neudaiz in game in the firts mission, bla,e sega!

Sekani

Jun 3, 2007, 01:07 PM

On 2007-06-03 10:32, Golto wrote:
I would like to thank the 8% of 360 players who are doing Moatoob.

And so the great PC Moatoob effort is being outscored by 8% of our population? How disappointing. Step up your game, Golto.

Golto

Jun 3, 2007, 01:27 PM

Well Sekani you have to figure a max of 50%(365) of pc/ps2 players doing firebreak at all. So maybe half that doing Moatoob now. So maybe 180 pc/ps2 players doing Moatoob but your 8% equals more than 200. You 360s are still spamming Neudiaz like its Lab S2 for you guys. Just think how far along Moatoob would be if 25% (650+) of the 360 players were doing it instead of Lab S2 and the Neudiaz Fire break missions.

I've done 8 runs of the Moatoob today so far how about you?

We need the 360 players who do read the msgbs to spread the word to the 360 players who don't to do Moatoob please.

akratic

Jun 3, 2007, 01:42 PM

Moatoob has a disproportionately low reward (in terms of purification points earned). 25 minutes gets you fewer purification points than 2 minutes on Neudaiz. So even if more people are doing Moatoob, it takes a good deal longer to earn points. Neudaiz skyrockets up simply because of the absurd payoff. Even Sranking Moatoob on A level nets you only a bit over 1k purification points. I mean, what the fuck is that?

I've been running it... But it is not really fun, so I don't know how much more I am wiling to do it. Lot of effort, little reward.

danzelaron

Jun 3, 2007, 01:42 PM

please everyone start doing firebreak on moatoob.It is the only planet that doesn't stand a chance in getting to 100%.I heard that depending on the % of each planet there will be new missions added after firebreak.So if we get all 3 planets to 100% then we will get more missions faster.

MrNomad

Jun 3, 2007, 01:54 PM

On 2007-06-03 11:07, Sekani wrote:

On 2007-06-03 10:32, Golto wrote:
I would like to thank the 8% of 360 players who are doing Moatoob.

And so the great PC Moatoob effort is being outscored by 8% of our population? How disappointing. Step up your game, Golto.

like Golto said, us pc/ps2 players are putting our effort into moatoob. Even if its only 20 points behind what the 8 % of 360 players are doing, I still cant help but feel like 360 players just dont care about doing firebreak anymore. Complain all you want, it still wont make the rest of those lazy 360 players help. Those 8 % players you talk about are no better off than we pc/ps2 players are =P o well, at least they helped sped up neudaiz's pury rate.

Almighty_Envy

Jun 3, 2007, 01:56 PM

.......lies >.>

But anyway ive done ALOT of Moatoob. I did 10 runs yesterday on A rank and alot of other runs a few days ago. We all will have to step up the pace.

Sekani

Jun 3, 2007, 02:01 PM

On 2007-06-03 11:27, Golto wrote:
Well Sekani you have to figure a max of 50%(365) of pc/ps2 players doing firebreak at all. So maybe half that doing Moatoob now. So maybe 180 pc/ps2 players doing Moatoob but your 8% equals more than 200. You 360s are still spamming Neudiaz like its Lab S2 for you guys. Just think how far along Moatoob would be if 25% (650+) of the 360 players were doing it instead of Lab S2 and the Neudiaz Fire break missions.

I've done 8 runs of the Moatoob today so far how about you?

We need the 360 players who do read the msgbs to spread the word to the 360 players who don't to do Moatoob please.

This thread has pretty much ruined my motivation to spread the word about anything.

But seriously, what's the incentive to run the Moatoob missions over Parum or Neudaiz? As far as Firebreak is concerned, the major rewards are given out for TOTAL points across all planets; there's no rule that they have to be perfectly evenly spread out. As long as we get 80 million points, I'm happy. If it so happens that 75 million of them come from Neudaiz, why should anyone care?

Also, no one has mentioned at all that some people may, you know, not like Scorched Valley. As in, they don't find it fun. That's a concept that seems to have been lost on every single person typing at the top of their keyboard to "DO MOATOOB!!!111!"

You're all getting your panties in a knot over nothing. This entire crusade is pointless and serves to do nothing but create more cross-platform animosity when there's no reason for it. Spread the word on your servers to let it go.

Sychosis

Jun 3, 2007, 02:08 PM

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s302/Sychosis777/moatoob-business.png

Almighty_Envy

Jun 3, 2007, 02:11 PM

xD, ur funny

vav

Jun 3, 2007, 02:12 PM

Neud is still going up at alarming rates. technicly neud has 115% now... ppl should be focusing on moatoob or we wont make it, from friday on parum will be "the" spot to be...

Vuman

Jun 3, 2007, 02:17 PM

On 2007-06-03 08:53, chibiLegolas wrote:

On 2007-06-03 08:12, Pheromone wrote:
Call me selfish, but I won't be helping in Moatoob for JUST level 3 luck. I'd rather get my level 57 newman to fT quickly

I know the rewards may not be great for some ppl. But ALL guardians out there are asking for everyone's help to purify Maotoob. Please help out the team if you have the time by doing a few runs per day. And strive for S on C rank if you must.

This mission is STILL great for leveling PA's and gaining exp. So for those who are MP farming, you STILL need to work in your various skills/bullets/techs anyways, so why not do it now while there's a player base out for Moatoob's firebreak? Or just throw in a few Moatoob runs in with your Neudiz farming if you must.
Point is, we need help! Please contribute if you can!
http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

My Level 5 force isn't going to be anything more than a Meat shield. Did Neudaiz runs to get to Force 10 so I could finally get the buffs to level 21. Getting Technics to a useful level would contribute more in saving my team mates rather than being a Vahra snack.

[ This Message was edited by: Vuman on 2007-06-03 12:25 ]

Ether

Jun 3, 2007, 02:18 PM

Clothing Discount = Not worth it

vav

Jun 3, 2007, 02:21 PM

On 2007-06-03 12:18, Ether wrote:
Clothing Discount = Not worth it

it would just be nice... its a community based event, would be nice to make all 3 planets 100%

SuperRygar

Jun 3, 2007, 02:22 PM

yeah, if there was better rewards it might seem worth while. but i've already obtained flame aura and stacks of ban photons. not much else :/

Eleina

Jun 3, 2007, 02:27 PM

Leave moatoob as it is <.<
If ppl don't want to do it don't force them...

Vuman

Jun 3, 2007, 02:27 PM

On 2007-06-03 12:17, Vuman wrote:

On 2007-06-03 08:53, chibiLegolas wrote:

On 2007-06-03 08:12, Pheromone wrote:
Call me selfish, but I won't be helping in Moatoob for JUST level 3 luck. I'd rather get my level 57 newman to fT quickly

I know the rewards may not be great for some ppl. But ALL guardians out there are asking for everyone's help to purify Maotoob. Please help out the team if you have the time by doing a few runs per day. And strive for S on C rank if you must.

My Level 5 force isn't going to be anything more than a Meat shield. Did Neudaiz runs to get to Force 10 so I could finally get the buffs to level 21. Getting Technics to a useful level would contribute more in saving my team mates rather than being a Vahra snack.

On 2007-06-02 23:38, NuclearRanger wrote:
Hopefully sega fixes some ballencing issues in AOI.. Like if you spam missions they become less and less rewarding

Let's not do this. Getting from level 80 to 200 is going to be a pain as it is unless we get PSU Towards the Future

Zorafim

Jun 3, 2007, 02:33 PM

I still want to know what would happen if everyone took a one month break from PSU when firebreak started, and no firebreak missions were done.

Oh, by the way: http://pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=143771&forum=20&119

SuperRygar

Jun 3, 2007, 02:36 PM

ppl dont go to Moatoob cause they dont care about FB. i'm farming ban-photons till i have an insane amount, and getting a bunch of garment aura's. then i'll sell them later and become super-rich. that's all FB is useful for, and getting quick easy MP while im farming ^.^ your saying we should move to moatoob, and we hear you, we just choose not to go. you spamming it over and over isn't going to change my mind. i find it funny that ppl stand outside Neudiaz flyer base and spam this message when they could be doing FB missions and earning the points that are like crack to them http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

-Tidus_415-

Jun 3, 2007, 02:42 PM

If a planet gets purified then the FB missions on that planet would be gone. Thats how it should of been...Since technically its "purified".

Reginaldo

Jun 3, 2007, 02:58 PM

Just get 50 million points, I just want the frying pan.

Helly

Jun 3, 2007, 03:02 PM

I'm going to give up on convincing people to do anything. This event seems to have made people even more greedy. The amount of not only locked games but finder/finder only just turns me away from joining others. At the momemt Parum is just sad. 3 Sea of Fire games and all the rest Mad Creatures. With all the Boost parties going on you think everyones boost technics would be at L30 by now. And how many fragments must people farm? Do they really have a need for every single Ult PA or something? I don't see 80 million pts in our future and that sad thing is that most people probably don't care. Enjoy your failure~ at least us people here at PSOW tried~

Eleina

Jun 3, 2007, 03:05 PM

On 2007-06-03 13:02, Helly wrote:
I'm going to give up on convincing people to do anything. This event seems to have made people even more greedy. The amount of not only locked games but finder/finder only just turns me away from joining others. At the momemt Parum is just sad. 3 Sea of Fire games and all the rest Mad Creatures. With all the Boost parties going on you think everyones boost technics would be at L30 by now. And how many fragments must people farm? Do they really have a need for every single Ult PA or something? I don't see 80 million pts in our future and that sad thing is that most people probably don't care. Enjoy your failure~ at least us people here at PSOW tried~

We live in one cruel world huh? As long as ppl play the game i'm happy http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Garnet_Moon

Jun 3, 2007, 03:18 PM

Moatoob is fucked. Let's all just get a head start on Parum(lol 1%) and continue maxing classes on Neudaiz. We'll get the Frying Pan when we finish Parum(already got 20mil, PArum will cap. Definately); that's a given right now when everyone jumps to Parum for the new S-Ranks.

As for Moatoob? Barring an event from PSOW 'm not setting foot there. Neudaiz is too good right now. I already have the clothes I need, and by the time we finish Parum, we'll haver 4 or 5 days of 3* luck for all. That's good enough for me~.

Golto

Jun 3, 2007, 03:37 PM

I did see something on the pc/ps2 side of Moatoob flyer base I've never seen before today, a 3rd page of parties. Looking through them it was 1 short of 2 pages full of Fire Break missions.

Neudiaz can earn more points per min but you can earn 450 points per Moatoob run if you get 181 kills. A good party can get to 181 kills on C in 12-13 mins, maybe even less.

ShadowDragon28

Jun 3, 2007, 03:38 PM

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z150/Anonymous-28/kitty-hand01.jpg

Garnet_Moon

Jun 3, 2007, 03:43 PM

On 2007-06-03 13:38, ShadowDragon28 wrote:
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z150/Anonymous-28/kitty-hand01.jpg

BURN THE KITTIES!

ShadowDragon28

Jun 3, 2007, 03:47 PM

How can you be so heartless and cruel?

Sekani

Jun 3, 2007, 03:53 PM

Because that is one ugly-ass kitten.

ShadowDragon28

Jun 3, 2007, 04:01 PM

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z150/Anonymous-28/kitty01.jpg

Poor kittens. How can Neudaiz spammers be so cruel?

Garnet_Moon

Jun 3, 2007, 04:18 PM

http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/2416/lolkittyat7.jpg

Migrate to Neudaiz and please the kitty!

Eleina

Jun 3, 2007, 04:19 PM

On 2007-06-03 14:01, ShadowDragon28 wrote:
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z150/Anonymous-28/kitty01.jpg

Poor kittens. How can Neudaiz spammers be so cruel?

Didn't sychosis once write "now i feel like punting a kitten"....I'm kinda having the same feeling

Zorafim

Jun 3, 2007, 04:54 PM

Erm, I just checked Moatoob's mission list, and almost three pages were full of firebreak missions. WTF?

Midicronica

Jun 3, 2007, 06:38 PM

On 2007-06-03 08:43, Parn wrote:
Call me crazy but... I don't think badmouthing 360 players on PSOW whom are already doing Moatoob missions is effective. The majority of the 360 playerbase does not read or post on PSOW or the official website, and all you're doing is alienating the ones who are contributing. This senseless bickering over the Firebreak event is rapidly making me lose interest. You're turning what should be a fun time into an obligatory job. I quit Final Fantasy XI for a reason. Please don't do this.

God, why don't people ever listen to you. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_nono.gif

Nobo

Jun 3, 2007, 06:41 PM

Spam Sea of Fire since Parum has only 1%!!!!! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_evil.gif And also I heard that to get the purification pts you have to hit the end crystal. Is this true? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_confused.gif

-Tidus_415-

Jun 3, 2007, 08:03 PM

On 2007-06-03 16:38, Shadow_Moses wrote:

On 2007-06-03 08:43, Parn wrote:
Call me crazy but... I don't think badmouthing 360 players on PSOW whom are already doing Moatoob missions is effective. The majority of the 360 playerbase does not read or post on PSOW or the official website, and all you're doing is alienating the ones who are contributing. This senseless bickering over the Firebreak event is rapidly making me lose interest. You're turning what should be a fun time into an obligatory job. I quit Final Fantasy XI for a reason. Please don't do this.

God, why don't people ever listen to you. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_nono.gif

Yup...People need to get online and go to neudiaz then start bitching to everybody. Make up a rumor or something. Anything to get them to move to moatoob lol

Reipard

Jun 4, 2007, 12:35 AM

This bickering over Firebreak is pretty stupid. Firebreak is supposed to be fun; let people run what they want for fun. It ultimately doesn't affect you anyway, unless you really like to buy clothes.

RFB

Jun 4, 2007, 02:32 AM

Well it kinda does, since, at least I, would like to see all 3 planets purified. And I really really wouldnt mind the clothes discount, been an eternity since I last checked the shops...

Korokodo13

Jun 4, 2007, 02:36 AM

I shop alot so I whent to Neudaiz and started spamming to go to moatoob and some people followed me all the way to the PTT spaceport and saw that I wasnt joking and went back to the Flyer base.... http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

Zarbolord

Jun 4, 2007, 04:34 AM

On 2007-06-03 18:03, -Tidus_415- wrote:

On 2007-06-03 16:38, Shadow_Moses wrote:

On 2007-06-03 08:43, Parn wrote:
Call me crazy but... I don't think badmouthing 360 players on PSOW whom are already doing Moatoob missions is effective. The majority of the 360 playerbase does not read or post on PSOW or the official website, and all you're doing is alienating the ones who are contributing. This senseless bickering over the Firebreak event is rapidly making me lose interest. You're turning what should be a fun time into an obligatory job. I quit Final Fantasy XI for a reason. Please don't do this.

God, why don't people ever listen to you. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_nono.gif

Yup...People need to get online and go to neudiaz then start bitching to everybody. Make up a rumor or something. Anything to get them to move to moatoob lol

Hmmm... if moa gets to 100% we'll have the frying pan? Does that suffice? >.> cos, that is exactly true.

Isabella

Jun 4, 2007, 04:53 AM

lets all hug now? :']

Garnet_Moon

Jun 4, 2007, 05:36 AM

On 2007-06-04 02:34, Zarbolord wrote:

On 2007-06-03 18:03, -Tidus_415- wrote:

On 2007-06-03 16:38, Shadow_Moses wrote:

On 2007-06-03 08:43, Parn wrote:
Call me crazy but... I don't think badmouthing 360 players on PSOW whom are already doing Moatoob missions is effective. The majority of the 360 playerbase does not read or post on PSOW or the official website, and all you're doing is alienating the ones who are contributing. This senseless bickering over the Firebreak event is rapidly making me lose interest. You're turning what should be a fun time into an obligatory job. I quit Final Fantasy XI for a reason. Please don't do this.

God, why don't people ever listen to you. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_nono.gif

Yup...People need to get online and go to neudiaz then start bitching to everybody. Make up a rumor or something. Anything to get them to move to moatoob lol

Hmmm... if moa gets to 100% we'll have the frying pan? Does that suffice? >.> cos, that is exactly true.

We get the Frying Pan at 50mil points, just like Super Holy Light 3/4 when e finish Parum.

Getting 100% isn't required, I don't believe. Though, we have nothing to go by since the JP finished them all I think.

Wait an see?

Shiryuu

Jun 4, 2007, 07:29 AM

Screw Moatoob... (damn non-blackbull giving planet)

TO PARUM!

fumatanera

Jun 4, 2007, 11:48 AM

this was the most reatrded thread ever...EVER

chibiLegolas

Jun 4, 2007, 12:30 PM

So....
To help change the mood in this thread, can anyone help me with a few questions about Moatoob FB points?

Does purify'n the pods adds extra points to your total score? If so, how much? Is it worth wasting time on if most ppl learn to kill around them. The points earned from them (if they even give extra points), might be negligible. I think someone asked the same question earlier, but got no confirmation.

Has anyone written down the accumulated points earned on each rank difficulty and degrees of success?
We've seen A rooms getting S. What about getting A, B in A rooms.
B rooms - S/A/B
C rooms -S/A/B
etc.

This will help figure out what's the quickest and most ideal goal to aim for for various leveled characters, per time involved (since the time limit changes per difficulty). It's nice to say we can all join A rooms and aim for S every time. But for some, it maybe more realistic to aim for lower grades to get that S.

And I've always wondered if it'll be quicker for ALL characters to get S on C rooms since it's the quickest and offer a higher chance of getting an S each time if there's at least 1 or 2 high leveled characters helping out lowbies. Having more C rooms with 2 high leveled players maxed in each opens up more rooms. Almost garantees an S once completed in quickest time. And lowest requirements, giving even lowbies to join and contribute to earn more points for just being there. Would this net the most points in the short time we have before Friday hits?

Does the jp wiki have the stats?

panzer_unit

Jun 4, 2007, 01:03 PM

Purifying pods on Mot is irrelevant. Maybe beasts like their planet like that, just minus all the murderous animals.

Really charitable high-levels could lead noob squads on C and ensure there are more people out there earning S ranks. Is C rank faster? How many monsters do you have to kill before the trial finishes with time remaining? I thought they were all 20 minutes missions scoring 300-odd points for an S rank, like you may as well do the highest rank you can manage to get a good score with.

I'm spamming the B rank in a team whenever I can... it's some nice XP for leveling my alt.

Akaimizu

Jun 4, 2007, 01:07 PM

C rank is 15 minutes, however the monster HP difference between C and B is pretty significant.

Sasamichan

Jun 4, 2007, 01:39 PM

On 2007-06-04 03:36, Garnet_Moon wrote:
We get the Frying Pan at 50mil points

I'm getting sick and tired of people saying that. I won't believe it until it's announced that we are getting that.

Eleina

Jun 4, 2007, 01:42 PM

Wouldn't it be funny if the frying pan was given as a reward for getting 100% on moatoob(or on all planets...)....Yes I would laugh http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

chibiLegolas

Jun 4, 2007, 01:45 PM

ljkkjlcm9's post here implied that my question might be on the right track.
http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=143918&forum=20&start=15&30#20

Can anyone else confirm this with the points earned from both difficulties? If so, the more realistic way to purify Moatoob is to aim for S on C runs?!
But last night, nearly all the rooms I've seen where Mostly A rooms and a few B. Rarely where there any C.
http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

If we really are going to take this Maotoob campaign seriously, perhaps we should all start working on leveling our PA's in C! Nearly everyone's got SOME kind of PA to level, even high leveled characers, no?

Golto

Jun 4, 2007, 01:48 PM

I've been doing Moatoob C and B runs everyday since the 2nd day. I haven't seen an offical word that difficulty has any modifier on points earned. So in theory doing C runs would be the way to go but getting the larger population to even set foot on Moatoob is the real problem.

Eleina

Jun 4, 2007, 01:52 PM

Moatoob is doomed!!!! funny how after the event all will be ok though..

Akaimizu

Jun 4, 2007, 01:58 PM

On 2007-06-04 11:45, chibiLegolas wrote:
ljkkjlcm9's post here implied that my question might be on the right track.
http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=143918&forum=20&start=15&30#20

Can anyone else confirm this with the points earned from both difficulties? If so, the more realistic way to purify Moatoob is to aim for S on C runs?!
But last night, nearly all the rooms I've seen where Mostly A rooms and a few B. Rarely where there any C.
http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

If we really are going to take this Maotoob campaign seriously, perhaps we should all start working on leveling our PA's in C! Nearly everyone's got SOME kind of PA to level, even high leveled characers, no?

For my chosen class, I have all the main PAs I need. However, even on C, I tend to forgo experimenting on PAs and go for whatever I can punch hardest with, outside the quick preliminary monster weakening from max Twin MayaLee range. Right now, as Human GT 69/10, I can still pretty much max-out at around 600-700 or so direct damage per-shot, no matter the weapon (on a single monster). With the possibility that perhaps when I get the Xbow-ult I may get out of that limitation.

Right now, I think for S-ranks we may just have to get on the complete and total reliance of getting some Dambarta invested Fortetecher spamming for the mission.

[ This Message was edited by: Akaimizu on 2007-06-04 12:02 ]

Yoshiflash

Jun 4, 2007, 03:05 PM

Ive said it before and Ill say it again, the amount of information Sega doesnt tell their customers about the game they made, and we're paying for, is absolutely astounding.

[ This Message was edited by: Yoshiflash on 2007-06-04 13:06 ]

VanHalen

Jun 4, 2007, 03:14 PM

On 2007-06-04 03:36, Garnet_Moon wrote:

We get the Frying Pan at 50mil points, just like Super Holy Light 3/4 when e finish Parum.

Getting 100% isn't required, I don't believe. Though, we have nothing to go by since the JP finished them all I think.

Wait an see?

Actually Japan feel 4 million points short of the goal on Moatoob seen here.
http://phantasystaruniverse.jp/event/fire2007/

Also they almost made 30 mil on Moatoob. I can see there servers then when that was happening

"WTF get off Neudaiz now!"
"Well why don't you get off Parum and help Moatoob"
"We don't need Moatoob points!"
*giant agrument in a thread breaks out*

Anyway, isn't the fact that they couldn't fully purify Moatoob enough motivation to fully purify it? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

Helly

Jun 4, 2007, 03:20 PM

Is everyone really going to be satisfied with just the Frying Pan? Did we forget the "real" weapons? Our version of this event is already abit different than Japans. What if fully purifying all planets means we get those?

VanHalen

Jun 4, 2007, 03:24 PM

Of course I want the real hand spear. That's first on my list since it's buyable by ban-photons.

Sychosis

Jun 4, 2007, 03:27 PM

Wasn't the JP requirement for Moatoob 15 million? Along with only 10 million for Neudaiz, they got it purified nearly 3 times over. We get it to 1.2 times over and everyone gets their panties in a wad.

VanHalen

Jun 4, 2007, 03:29 PM

What?! Are you serious? F them man........F them. I'll teach them for adding more points for us. *Flies off to Japan*

Eliash

Jun 4, 2007, 03:45 PM

Hmm...for those of you who don't want to take the time to read this whole thread you can check out this video (http://s183.photobucket.com/albums/x119/Zephirian/PSU/?action=view¤t=finalvideo.flv).

Source: Here (http://boards2.sega.com/psu_board/viewtopic.php?t=32304)

Warning: If accronyms (GTFO) offend you, do not view the video.

majan

Jun 4, 2007, 03:58 PM

okay,well,weve conquered neudaiz. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_beer.gif

parum is as good as done once friday and that new awesome payout missoin comes.

moatoob on the other hand has 1 measly mission that we have to spam.its amazing experience doing the mission and its pretty damn fun,since you can die all you want and not effect the rank,so it makes for some pretty amusing times,getting your ass beaten by vanda merhas and bil de vears,waking up,and getting your ass beaten again.but youll probably average close to 20k a run and at 25 mins each on A rank..that isnt half bad...though,Im not sure I remember what level the bil de vears are on A rank,and if they are high enoguh,they can drop our coveted s rank weapons.now THATs incentive to run the god damn mission if they have over level 100.if not,then,well,shit.but,still,that mission is awesome experience,and the rewards are rather decent on A rank.level 50 level requriement=awesome,so start spamming it please,while we still have time and before everybody makes a crimsonbeast out of that new parum mission that is going to hit this friday.
oh,and tell your online friends who arent on PSOW to see this groundbreakingly revolutionarily huge attention-attracting post.IOW, spread the damn word.

kthxbye.

Akaimizu

Jun 4, 2007, 04:00 PM

Just don't forget to nab a good Fortetecher for the run.

Rashiid

Jun 4, 2007, 04:03 PM

On 2007-06-04 14:00, Akaimizu wrote:
Just don't forget to nab a good Fortetecher for the run.

why? doesnt matter if you die.

Akaimizu

Jun 4, 2007, 04:05 PM

No. So that you'll be able to finish the run in time.

Garnet_Moon

Jun 4, 2007, 04:06 PM

On 2007-06-04 13:58, majan wrote:
dont just move to moatoob....do it now....

I stopped taking orders when Captain Davis and Sergeant Major Thompson left my life.

JAFO22000

Jun 4, 2007, 04:15 PM

This isn't very convincing....

akratic

Jun 4, 2007, 04:37 PM

I,am not,sure,but i heard that, nine stars will,be, available.and shit, in the shops.

VanHalen

Jun 4, 2007, 04:39 PM

On 2007-06-04 14:15, JAFO22000 wrote:
This isn't very convincing....

If you get Moatoob to 100% I will post a picture of myself acting stupid in the Off-topic RL photo thread.

JAFO22000

Jun 4, 2007, 04:44 PM

On 2007-06-04 14:15, JAFO22000 wrote:
This isn't very convincing....

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif^^^^
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Yes, I just quoted myself.

Sychosis

Jun 4, 2007, 04:58 PM

On 2007-06-04 14:44, JAFO22000 wrote:

On 2007-06-04 14:15, JAFO22000 wrote:
This isn't very convincing....

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif^^^^
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Yes, I just quoted myself.

On 2006-12-17 12:01, Sychosis wrote:
Quoting yourself is stupid.

On a more serious note, whether you like it or not, Moatoob takes longer to purify than Neudaiz.

Flwl3ssCowboy

Jun 4, 2007, 05:07 PM

On 2007-06-04 14:39, VanHalen wrote:

On 2007-06-04 14:15, JAFO22000 wrote:
This isn't very convincing....

If you get Moatoob to 100% I will post a picture of myself acting stupid in the Off-topic RL photo thread.

That's nnuthin', I'LL get a picture of me...uh...FIGHTING AN INVISIBLE BEAR...haha, yeah....

VanHalen

Jun 4, 2007, 05:09 PM

Aww come on it will be good http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

Flwl3ssCowboy

Jun 4, 2007, 05:11 PM

lookin forward to both

VanHalen

Jun 4, 2007, 05:15 PM

Ok now spam it for lootz. I'm very serious about this.

Garnet_Moon

Jun 4, 2007, 05:30 PM

Back to Neudaiz with the lot of you.

VanHalen

Jun 4, 2007, 05:59 PM

On 2007-06-04 13:45, Eliash wrote:
Hmm...for those of you who don't want to take the time to read this whole thread you can check out this video (http://s183.photobucket.com/albums/x119/Zephirian/PSU/?action=view¤t=finalvideo.flv).

Source: Here (http://boards2.sega.com/psu_board/viewtopic.php?t=32304)

Warning: If accronyms (GTFO) offend you, do not view the video.

I CRIED! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

majan

Jun 5, 2007, 12:15 PM

On 2007-06-04 14:44, JAFO22000 wrote:

On 2007-06-04 14:15, JAFO22000 wrote:
This isn't very convincing....

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif^^^^
||||||

Yes, I just quoted myself.

first and foremost,congrats.

secondly,whats not that convincing?the fact that were now spoiled by the likes of sea of fire and heat wave island doing 3 minute runs for 3-5k each run?and *GASP* now this outlandish moatoob mission dares not to give similar meseta rewards?!!?ZOMG!!!!!!!what about the experience reward though?also,that mission has WAY more possibilities of decent rares dropping thna ANY other of the firebreak missions.why? a hell of a lot more monsters.spamming sea of fire or heat wave island probably nets you about 130 monsters every 10 runs or so,where scorched valley gives you at least 130 monsters in at most 25 mins.besides,S ranking the mission on B gives 9k meseta,which isnt that much to complain about.just because it doesnt match up to what else you can be doing,that doesnt mean do whatever else you can.

this is the firebreak event,guys,not the normal "hey lets go to lab recovery and make 500k today"

besides,like I said in my other post up there(because quoting yourself is cool)

On 2007-06-04 13:58, majan wrote:

parum is as good as done once friday and that new awesome payout missoin comes.

if everybody is so worried about themselves and their mission points and money,why not just get as much of moatoob out of the way as we can before friday,when an even better mission that,lets not lie,ALL OF US are going to go do.(28.5k payout,according to japan's event)so parum is as good as purified once that one comes out,along wiht our wallets,which will be lined with golden things by the end of the event just because of that mission.

so you all,that is why we should go to moatoob.just get the damn thing overwith,or at least as much as we can,that way when the new parum mission hits this friday itll be "okay,moatoob is good enough now.lets go make money." and not,"roflwhogivesafuckaboutmoatoobletsgomakemadmoneyhah ahahaha"

seriously,if everybodys worried about something worthwhile,take advantage of this moatoob mission.its awesome for experience and you face monsters in DROVES,which of course,means that its a top-notch site for PA leveling.so,that means,as an incentive to do that mission,why dont we take out that twin dagger PA weve been delaying to level and go to the mission and multitask?purify moatoob while leveling up those daggers,or whatever the fuck.or just do it to level yourself up quick enough to make the level requirement for the parum mission that way you can at least do the damn thing when it comes out on friday.or at least just to help out your friends that you play with all the time to reach a very simple goal.
whatever you do,just quit whining about being just a little obligated to participate in an event thats practically handing us money,mission points,experience, and several +3 luck days on a silver platter.
oh,and tell your friends who dont post on these boards,too.

[ This Message was edited by: majan on 2007-06-05 10:18 ]

JAFO22000

Jun 5, 2007, 12:37 PM

Sorry, didn't read the reply.

Basically, I wrote that your original post wasn't convincing because you backtracked a lot "I don't know. Maybe. Possibly" and shit like that.

Also, your use of punctuation and general sentence structures are piss-poor.

People will not be convinced by your soapbox rantings if you can't even form a decent, readable sentence.

majan

Jun 5, 2007, 02:33 PM

Oh, my bad. Forgot this was academic prose writing. What can I say, though. Have it your way.

Anyway, you get the fucking point, I think. My punctuation and spaces associated with it is pretty much all that's off, and so there are a few run-ons, but we aren't here to impress each other with well-written, pulitzer-prize winning posts, now are we? No, in fact, we're here to talk about a certain video game, and all that's associated with it. This is a message board.

Furthermore, I wasn't backtracking. I dont beleive any word I say is gospel truth to anybody, so I try to make that clear in the way I type. So, when Im discussing a matter like this while also trying to explain my point of view, I don't like to come off like everything I say is 100% true.

My suspicion is that you took the minute to read it, and have no legitimate response to what I said. Being that this conversation is about a game, I don't particularly care, but it just seems to me that my "soapbox rant" made quite a bit of sense if you actually read what I said, and not concentrate on broken grammar in casual, fast, straight off the top of your head typing. So, suck it up, read what my post actually says, and then respond to it.

And if you can't do that, then I suggest you stop hanging around on message boards - or at least videogame related ones where most people don't give 2 fucks about grammar.

JAFO22000

Jun 5, 2007, 02:45 PM

Experience reward? Most people are already level 80. If not, I do agree that the experience is good, but you can get good experience doing any free mission.

"Way more" possibilities of decent rare drops? Like what, Kerseline? Copernia? a W'gacan? These are not drops that are sought after...I can get Nanoresins on Parum and Ortaresins (which are rare in free missions) from Neudaiz. Where are the Metaresins?

Also, it's already been stated that the FB points given by the Moatoob mission are not on par with that of the other planets....add in the fact that there are only 4 man parties (thus, only 4 people can score their totals per mission instead of 6 on the other planents) and this planet is not going to get purified. We've only gained, what, about 2%/day for this mission? I'll eat my shoe if it gets over 40% done by this Friday.

majan

Jun 5, 2007, 03:41 PM

On 2007-06-05 12:45, JAFO22000 wrote:
Experience reward? Most people are already level 80. If not, I do agree that the experience is good, but you can get good experience doing any free mission.

"Way more" possibilities of decent rare drops? Like what, Kerseline? Copernia? a W'gacan? These are not drops that are sought after...I can get Nanoresins on Parum and Ortaresins (which are rare in free missions) from Neudaiz. Where are the Metaresins?

Also, it's already been stated that the FB points given by the Moatoob mission are not on par with that of the other planets....add in the fact that there are only 4 man parties (thus, only 4 people can score their totals per mission instead of 6 on the other planents) and this planet is not going to get purified. We've only gained, what, about 2%/day for this mission? I'll eat my shoe if it gets over 40% done by this Friday.

Experience rewards, yes! Eureka, there are other people that play this game other than you and your friends who are not level 80 and are trying to get there. This the best place. Further, level 85 vanda merhas drop plenty better things than copernias and w'gacans. In fact, they drop 9* shotguns, Shigga Bines. Navals? They drop the 9* [B] Rabol Dadan. Bil de vears? Axes.

And why are you concerned about metaresins? Is this the firebreak event? Or the farm your -resins event? Noone else seems to give a damn about them besides you. Sure, if you need to synth armor, farm away. But don't base your mission choice on the most reliable place to get something thats available all the time.

Lastly, why bother complaining about party size? While this sucks a little because it makes the runs go slower, it also makes for more parties. More parties = more missions being done = more points being recorded. I haven't made it all the way through the A rank mission yet so I can't tell what kind of mission point reward it gives, but I'd guess it's somewhat worthwhile(B rank gives 45 MP's, 9000 meseta). Also, it being the only option on moatoob for FB, we don't have much of a choice.

I'm not sitting here trying to shove the "right" thing down your throat here, it just makes no sense to me why we wouldnt do this. I mean, it's a game, and this is a special event during said game, meant to bring people together and encourage teamwork to perform certain tasks to get certain rewards.

Someone so picky with grammar may have already arrived at this conclusion, but I guess that's asking too much. Besides, it's not like everybody is sitting here saying STOP WHAT YOUR DOING AND GO TO MOATOOB!!!!...it would just make a little bit more sense to, instead of spamming other firebreak missions that don't have a point towards the event anymore, to try the other event mission.

edit: Lastly, keep your shoes on - I don't expect it to hit 40% by friday either. Too many players are made of greedy.

The rest of us will be busy making the level requirement to do the best firebreak mission, come friday. Oh wait, I forgot - "most people" are already level 80. Silly me.

[ This Message was edited by: majan on 2007-06-05 13:50 ]

JAFO22000

Jun 5, 2007, 04:12 PM

And why are you concerned about metaresins?

Navals? They drop the 9* [B] Rabol Dadan.

See folks, the questions just answer themselves sometimes!

In fact, they drop 9* shotguns, Shigga Bines.Bil de vears? Axes.

Well, for those of us who actually ran other missions besides spamming CB or Sealabs, we have already found our share of Shigga Bines and neutral Ank Bardes which drop. You consider these good drops?

don't base your mission choice on the most reliable place to get something thats available all the time.

Ortacarbons/resins are NOT readily available at this drop rate all the time.

More parties = more missions being done = more points being recorded.

SURVEY SAAAAAYYYSSSS?!?!?!?! XXXXXXX!

If the Moatoob FB missions could support 6 players at once, 2 missions of 6 players each would score as many points as 3 missions of 4 players each (considering each of these parties received the same grade for the same mission). 12 people playing is 12 people playing. A six person party would get through the level faster than a four person party though, don't you think?

I haven't made it all the way through the A rank mission yet so I can't tell what kind of mission point reward it gives, but I'd guess it's somewhat worthwhile(B rank gives 45 MP's, 9000 meseta).

I'm not sure of the MP, but it gives you 22000 meseta. What I'm talking about when I say it's not worth it are the points that actually go towards the purification. You only get about 3-400 per person for a 25 minute mission. When I say not worth it, that is what I mean.

The rest of us will be busy making the level requirement to do the best firebreak mission, come friday. Oh wait, I forgot - "most people" are already level 80. Silly me.Experience rewards, yes! Eureka, there are other people that play this game other than you and your friends who are not level 80 and are trying to get there. This the best place.

I have an alt that I use to run this mission on C. It's good for EXP and leveling PA's. But it still get's rather boring after awhile (2-3 hours worth!) and I like to head over to Parum for some MP. Plus, how many people will be doing the first 2 Parum missions come Friday? The one Moatoob mission will see more parties than these two.

EDIT: BTW and all jokes aside, thanks for posting in a civilzied manner using correct English. It makes for a much better argument and makes what you are saying sound more credible! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

[ This Message was edited by: JAFO22000 on 2007-06-05 14:14 ]

Helly

Jun 5, 2007, 04:57 PM

I never got an answer to this question yet. Do purification points in Scorched Valley come only from killing monsters or do you also get more for purifying the cores?

A2K

Jun 5, 2007, 04:59 PM

On 2007-06-05 14:57, Helly wrote:
I never got an answer to this question yet. Do purification points in Scorched Valley come only from killing monsters or do you also get more for purifying the cores?

Only killing monsters, as evidenced by the point tally in the mission results.

Sekani

Jun 5, 2007, 09:09 PM

On 2007-06-05 13:41, majan wrote:
I'm not sitting here trying to shove the "right" thing down your throat here, it just makes no sense to me why we wouldnt do this. I mean, it's a game, and this is a special event during said game, meant to bring people together and encourage teamwork to perform certain tasks to get certain rewards.

Scorched Valley is good EXP, we've already established that. Nothing else about this mission is particularly standout.

The only reason to continue purifying Moatoob in particular at this point is because you enjoy the mission. And guess what? The people doing the mission right now are the ones that enjoy it. No sense badgering everyone else.