HUmar hatin'

[The_Bear753]

Why does everyone hate HUmars? Their the best class, and often misinterpreted as the weakest/easiest. Au contrair, they have nothing really going for them, and have to be molded into greatness very early, otherwise hard mode gets immpossible. Not that I know. Anyway, they're the best because they have good ATP, they can use techniques, (I hate casts for that, sole reason) they can use a lot of different weapons, and they're very well balanced. They're HARD to raise, forces are easier... Lastly, I hate how everyone recommend newbs to HUmars, they're not easy to use/raise. The easiest class(es) is/are RAmar/RAmarl. Just my opinion. Which is law! lol

[AlexCraig]

All classes in PSO are great in their own way. HUmars are well balanced with most of their stats and are great for people who are just getting used to the game.

[DC_PLAYER]

well on ver.2 humars kick ass (literally), with shifta deband reverser grants and megid they can have plenty of power suply and with the correct weapon they equal no other

[SStrikerR]

i have ver 2 on dc as well, and i hear ya dc-player

and yea, they do have good stats which make them easy to START with, but newbs who arent good at fast healing are gonna get slaughtered. and they usually dont know the hit and run easy kills...they run outa monomates, holy crud. but once they get into hard mode, holy cow they wont know what hit em, even in forest.

[Banish]

Every Class is Different. Why people hate HUmars is a mystery.

[The_Bear753]

In response to ryan113, I know those strategies, I'm VERY skilled at it, and that is why I'm the HUmar master. Also, is there a version 2 for gamecube? Any info would be appreciated. :]

[xxTrystanxx]

HUmars are easily, IMHO, the most underrated class. People like to forget they have the second highest ATP behind HUcast, with the ability to Resta themselves sufficiently. HUmars are to PSO what Paladins are to D&D, without the issue of alignment. Skilled fighters with some moderate healing ability. And every wants to be a paladin http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Rob19]

i agree w/ them being underated also. i know few ppl that say humars are for noobs, but then i just think about my humar and laugh at them. every class has the possibility to be better in some areas than other and there is no single class that is necessarily beyond all others or behind. its a matter of how they are played

[EnixBelmont]

On 2007-06-16 00:48, The_Bear753 wrote:
Why does everyone hate HUmars? Their the best class, and often misinterpreted as the weakest/easiest. Au contrair, they have nothing really going for them, and have to be molded into greatness very early, otherwise hard mode gets immpossible. Not that I know. Anyway, they're the best because they have good ATP, they can use techniques, (I hate casts for that, sole reason) they can use a lot of different weapons, and they're very well balanced. They're HARD to raise, forces are easier... Lastly, I hate how everyone recommend newbs to HUmars, they're not easy to use/raise. The easiest class(es) is/are RAmar/RAmarl. Just my opinion. Which is law! lol



HUmars are not anywhere near the best class in the game, honestly, although they are really underrated. Their techniques are basically jokes, level 15 being the max and not having S/D. Low MST doesnt help their resta, which is slow and inferior to mates(although cheaper). To compete with HUcasts higher attack, they have to cast J/Z on everything in the room, which is time consuming and a null point if you have a force with you, in which case the cast will always do more damage and be more useful. They can use pretty much the same weapons casts can, minus a few which arent really good for HUmar anyway, and casts get S-parts and stuff and traps, too(which is better than any HUmar attack spell).

Humars are not hard to use. At all. If you call yourself a HUmar master and say they're hard to use, then chances are you aren't a HUmar master >_> Really, the only classes easier to play as are RAmar/RAmarl until ultimate, where all hunters get a bit harder to use(still not hard, though). Androids have to use items to heal which takes up a lot of their money when leveling, and forces have low def and run out of TP much faster.

Theyr're still not bad, and certainly not the worst class, though. Second best ATP in the game is certainly not bad, and any class can be used well. They are very newb friendly, however, and is a very common class, and as such, they have the most idiots playing as them, which gives them the bad rep. But there are worse classes. FOmar is probably the worst in the game, honestly, due to its horrid ATA, but even FOmar can be used almost as well as any other class with the right items.

[totenkreuz]

I don't hate HUmars! I am one =] I wouldn't say their the best class, they are really good though.

[DC_PLAYER]

what about hucaseal, doesn't she have less atp, no s/d, no j/z and no mst at all...........i simply do not understand you EnixBelmont

[Salbakra]

On 2007-06-16 13:58, The_Bear753 wrote:
In response to ryan113, I know those strategies, I'm VERY skilled at it, and that is why I'm the HUmar master. Also, is there a version 2 for gamecube? Any info would be appreciated. :]



I am here to anser to this question, yes ther is one, I am using the episode 1&2 plus version on the game cube ,this version is a little bit more expensive...

[The_Bear753]

Ok, but if I have data from regular PSO, could transfer it to PSO plus? I don't want to do The_Bear again...... http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

[Splash]

On 2007-06-19 06:59, DC_PLAYER wrote:
what about hucaseal, doesn't she have less atp, no s/d, no j/z and no mst at all...........i simply do not understand you EnixBelmont



Yet HUcaseals have the ability to use traps, the ability to auto-heal while standing, the best twin-saber and dagger animations, and better accuracy and evasion overall. Not to mention they are seen more helpful in Challenge mode, due to the fact they can't be poisoned nor paralyzed (saves you a Cure/Paralysis for a slot as well when playing single player mode).

By far, HUcaseys are way much better than HUmars. The only downside to them is that you have to use them efficiently. Dodging attacks become a preliminary role for them since you would use less healing items in this case. And there are still people who refuse to use traps when that is all they have for support. >_>

[The_Bear753]

Opinions, opinions......

[Drone243]

i think they are great. I think people say they are rubbish because their the balanced chracter of what they see is the easiest characters hunters.I think that all the characters are as easy as the others when you are used to the game its just hunters are the easiest to start off with.

[amtalx]

HUmars get hate because they are easy to use. Unfortunately, that ease makes them the favorite choice of noobs, and most people hate noobs. That's pretty much it. PSU suffers from the same problem. The Fighgunner class is the new HUmar. Any slack-jawed moron can use one an generally avoid dying. Not to say that the classes themselves are bad, just the users.

[xxTrystanxx]

That is exactly the problem, plain and simple. It really has nothing to do with the class itself. In fact, HUmars are great. Regardless of popular belief, I think they are a very viable solo character behind say, HUney or RAmarl.

[The_Bear753]

Agreed. Now what about my pso plus question, regarfing transferring memory card from regular pso to plus?

[Rob19]

u can switch back and forth between the 2 versions, so there is no problem http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

also, i just got my humar to 200 the other day (sunday) and a lot of ppl like how i handle him

[pso-dude]

im in that lot for sure!

btw, i need some tips on how to play a humar effectively.

[Rob19]

well, what equipment are we talkin here. stuff u could use? stuff u have? what? give a few specific questions and i could prob answer them. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[The_Bear753]

On 2007-06-19 18:03, Rob19 wrote:
u can switch back and forth between the 2 versions, so there is no problem http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

also, i just got my humar to 200 the other day (sunday) and a lot of ppl like how i handle him



Ok, but I heard someone say that there are more classes, and that HUmar's can learn reverser, megid and grants. Are any of the 2 true?

[T0m]

The_Bear753, it is best to make a new thread when you want to ask another question, unrelated to the original one. No user with some knowledge about PSO+ reading the title "Humar hatin' ", will know you ask for info about PSO+. So you'll potentially miss out on information about this, while users looking for some "Humar hating" related talk, won't find what they expect here.

[BryantGrundle]

On 2007-06-16 00:48, The_Bear753 wrote:
Their the best class, and

they have nothing really going for them



Thats some fine use of logic there, Sherlock.

[DC_PLAYER]

ok, so the humar is not the best at something exept that he has a very high atack power (hunter class), but he has no weakness like a android or a force, forces are powerfull but they have a low hp, so a strong hit can kill the force but not the humar, androids if hitted alot they need to use lot's of healing items, the humar can use resta.
what i'm trying to say is that the humar cannot be suprised by any attack, he can adapt to every situation.

[Tweengo]

I like Humar. The very first class I used, and mainly the only one I used for over a year before I decided to make myself some other classes. My main character is Humar and currently sitting idle at lv153. I've discovered the joys and pros and cons of using the other classes though. Hucasts/caseals traps and high ATP and the joy of using their freeze/confuse traps. Cons are the lack of Resta, making Dark Falz in Very Hard third form a challenge if you have no Scapes and run out of Mono/Di/Trimates. Ramar/arl/cast (find it pointless making the female android ranger after all them) for their high ACC and some decent multi-hit weps such as Spread Needle, Photon Launcher (good early rare), Guilty Light, Red Scorpio, Baranz Launcher, Gi Gue Bazooka, and decent rifles such as Gush/Hell Laser, Bringers Rifle, that Yasminkov rifle, and the King of all rifles IMO, Frozen Shooter. Cons are when you get to Ult Mines, 'specially if you can't use traps. Single enemy weapons just make Ult mines take ages, well for me anyway. Forces for their Nuke-em-all spells, Megid, Grants, Megid, and did I say Megid (specially Fonewearl). Cons include low HP. I find that after a while, Humars do seem to get boring 'cause nothing becomes a challenge at the higher levels, while with the other classes, it's more of a challenge. I still use them though, but I prefer Hunewearl to Humars.

[Rickabu]

I dont hate HUmars. I just dislike them. Thats is prolly because my HUney can outdue the Humar in attack and spell power because of s&d

[Jaspaller]

HUmars are one of my favorite characters. Sure they don't have as high ATP as the HUcast or as high ATA as the HUcaseal but they are still decent. Shifta/deband? I can live without it as long as I have a mag with twins on them which will put me past the HUney.

I have to say I did not like the HUnewearl's ATA and ATP though and I would take a HUmar over a HUnewearl any day.

[totenkreuz]

There is one bad thing about them...they get crappy hair.

[The_Bear753]

WTF is a HUney?

[Jaspaller]

HUney = HUnewearl

I find the hair is decent. It's that huge shoulder pad thing of theirs that annoys me.

[Karana]

I think the reason people hate HUmars is their armor. It's very ugly...

I like HUnewearls the best, they have a balanced POW, MIND, and DEX.
They preform attacks better and faster too.

[cepiah]

I'm a user of PSO BB, and this is the first time I start PSO in online. When I create my own chracter, I choose Humar without any hesitation. You know, Humar is the best-well-balanced character. I think It's especially good for teamplay. First of all, It looks good and fancy! I really like my HUmarrrrr~~!



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[Leonah]

HUmars are alright, but close-combat wise I just perfer HUnewearl's!!

HUmars are made how they are to keep you somewhat 'safe' while you learn PSO! You don't have to really pay as much attention to their mags are you would a FO(because they all can help you, except mind), and you can do pretty great damage at a low level. Keeps the newb going 'cool!' and playing on!

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif I perfer my FO's though. But that's only me!

[kadajarik]

HA RAmars easy to use my foot have you tried takes ages for to get good and i have no decent gun rares

[EphekZ]

I don't know why people keep saying S/D is neccesary. lvl 15 does shit. J/Z however, is very effective for its level. it can keep you from getting knocked down, even in ult. and zalure can lower the enemies dfp immensly. I'd take J/Z over S/D anyday. They have good stats and a good selection for weps. Why they're called noobmars, you ask, is becuase everyone begins with them and no one knows how to use them effectivly in a team.

[cashizslick]

You are all missing one BIG thing about humars . . .



. . . they can LAST.



You could easily spend 2+ hours w/out returning to pioneer 2, as you can heal yourself and wont be using techs too much.


Also, their ability to heal, coupled w/the second highest ATP & ATA of the HU class, makes them an excellent candidate for zerking.

My humar & zanba own.

[AlexCraig]

I hear you there. The only reason I repeatedly go back to Pioneer 2 is because I run out of room in my inventory http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

[Splash]

:
I don't know why people keep saying S/D is neccesary. lvl 15 does shit. J/Z however, is very effective for its level. it can keep you from getting knocked down, even in ult. and zalure can lower the enemies dfp immensly. I'd take J/Z over S/D anyday. They have good stats and a good selection for weps. Why they're called noobmars, you ask, is becuase everyone begins with them and no one knows how to use them effectivly in a team.

Because Shifta and Deband can LAST. Jellen and Zalure just lasts for a certain amount of enemies until they are killed which is essentially wasting TP on your part. At least Shifta and Deband can be brought into multiple rooms.

You are all missing one BIG thing about humars . . .

. . . they can LAST.

You could easily spend 2+ hours w/out returning to pioneer 2, as you can heal yourself and wont be using techs too much.

Also, their ability to heal, coupled w/the second highest ATP & ATA of the HU class, makes them an excellent candidate for zerking.

My humar & zanba own.

The sad fact is that when people say their HUmar and Zanba own, most of them don't even know how to berserk correctly in the first place. I had a couple of games where there were HUmars using Zanbas and all of them died because apparently a Dark Gunner shot one in the back and a Delsaber jumped onto the other one. <_<

[cashizslick]

You have to heal a lot if you zerk and Humars are perfect for that as they have resta.

If you suck at zerking, thats another issue.