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Weeaboolits
Jun 19, 2007, 06:34 PM
Seeing as though I generally prefer bows, I've just today gotten a rifle bullet up to level 21 for the first time, I'm using a Blackbull, when I shoot enemies, it knocks them down, is this normal for rifle bullets, or is it just some odd effect for the Blackbull?

I can't remember if I ever knocked anything down before 21 because I used it pretty much exclusively on large enemies. :/

DaRkWoLf30
Jun 19, 2007, 06:37 PM
My friend said it doesn't knock down at 21 likes it suppose to but i have yet to try it.

Golto
Jun 19, 2007, 06:52 PM
Aganist flying enemies? Those are the only enemies I've knocked down with a rifle.

Retehi
Jun 19, 2007, 07:07 PM
If you think it's the Blackbull's effect, it's not. Someone demonstrated it once to me, and it acted like a normal rifle. (cept the awesome sounding, and looking shot. . .)

Realmz
Jun 19, 2007, 07:10 PM
rifle with knockdown? In my phantasy star?

it's less likely then you'd think

Shiryuu
Jun 19, 2007, 07:17 PM
Isn't he only playing offline?

Weeaboolits
Jun 19, 2007, 07:31 PM
Yeah, I'm offline, forgot to mention that.

Garanz-Baranz
Jun 19, 2007, 07:42 PM
>.>

Rifles do a twitch effect, this twitch can knock down Shagreece, Zoona, possibly Tengoug and possibly Jusnagun. This knockdown ONLY occurs when the enemy is assended to the air. However, Lag can occur, and not affect the Shagreece, or Zoona.

As of now, no Rifle can do Knockup, -back, or -down.

Weeaboolits
Jun 19, 2007, 07:47 PM
I'm actually talking about enemies on the ground, like Vanda Merhas.

Garnet_Moon
Jun 19, 2007, 07:51 PM
On 2007-06-19 17:47, Ronin_Cooper wrote:
I'm actually talking about enemies on the ground, like Vanda Merhas.


That's just a face plop because you just got a Blackbull when they haven't even gotten a Rappy Feather, and compounded with the fact you're STILL not online.

Weeaboolits
Jun 19, 2007, 08:34 PM
Does it not work online or something? Maybe it has to do with the power or something, like how enemies won't send you flying when you get stronger. :/

Almighty_Envy
Jun 19, 2007, 08:41 PM
Doesnt work online

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Weeaboolits
Jun 20, 2007, 12:32 AM
I tested it with a different bullet, only my level 21+ bullet has knockdown, it has a little swirly effect too.

Rashiid
Jun 20, 2007, 12:45 AM
0.o

must be an Offline thing.

Weeaboolits
Jun 20, 2007, 01:08 AM
I'll test it with another rifle later, it's probly ofline only, but it's dead usefull, makes dealing with those pesky Bil De Vears a brease. ;]

Eleina
Jun 20, 2007, 05:37 AM
Offline rifles knockdown at lvl 21+...however they do not have this effect online

Zarbolord
Jun 20, 2007, 06:46 AM
Ok here goes:

Online normal rifles do not have knockback or knockdown.

Offline I've tested the blackbull. Under lvl 21 PAs have knockback, at lvl 21+ it has knockdown. Knockback works for big enemies too, like bil de vears on Absolute Zero.

The blackbull there for holds this capacity of knockback/knockdown. Although it still has to be checked online I'm sure it has the same effects (fuka freeze enemies, exactly like offline, so its plausable...).



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Weeaboolits
Jun 20, 2007, 07:36 AM
Just tested it with an Assassin, and I get knockdown with that too.

Falcon does it too, it's just an effect of high level bullets offline. Sucks, I was hoping to have such an ability online. :/

amtalx
Jun 20, 2007, 07:43 AM
That would be awesome...however, it would make a group of rangers pretty much unstoppable if that were carried over to online mode.

Rashiid
Jun 20, 2007, 07:53 AM
^ agreed. as if we dont have enuff Casts already >.>

DoubleK93
Jun 20, 2007, 08:01 AM
What are you sayin...you don't like the race of cast's?? I take this offensive!!

chibiLegolas
Jun 20, 2007, 12:15 PM
On 2007-06-20 05:53, Rashiid wrote:
^ agreed. as if we dont have enuff Casts already >.>



Now, now there. We're celebrating Unification Day afterall.
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DoubleK93
Jun 20, 2007, 12:25 PM
On 2007-06-20 10:15, chibiLegolas wrote:

On 2007-06-20 05:53, Rashiid wrote:
^ agreed. as if we dont have enuff Casts already >.>



Now, now there. We're celebrating Unification Day afterall.
http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

LOL ok ok. I'm fine now! I actually think we don't have enough cast's!

TheLOLBandit
Jun 20, 2007, 12:27 PM
i use rifles all the time but i have never knocked an ememy down ... unless they were flying.... i think that might be a BlackBull special feature



oh and ..... I WANT ONE SOOOO BAD!!!!!

DoubleK93
Jun 20, 2007, 12:29 PM
I have falcon and falgoho's +5 and they make Gohma Dilla + Gohma Methna back up everytime i hit 'em and my bullets are only lvl 9!!!

360NyTeMaRe
Jun 20, 2007, 02:19 PM
I noticed my bullet has a knockdown effect called DEATH.

When I shoot an enemy (on a C or B mission) most of the time it falls and dies in one hit.

DoubleK93
Jun 20, 2007, 02:20 PM
Mine doesn't it takes like 4or5 hits and everytime it hits it...it goes backward from my bullet!

landman
Jun 20, 2007, 02:34 PM
This is an off-line only feature, and any rifle does it, not only blackbull. Off-line bows hit 2 enemies too, I am not sure about them on-line...

360NyTeMaRe
Jun 20, 2007, 02:38 PM
The closest you can come to it online is (what I do)... Lv80 CAST Fortegunner (10) with a Phantom +7, Lv30 bullet, Hard / Power Charge. It only works in C and hardly any B missions.

Most of the time you have to get a critical hit for it to work on B, my critical hits for around 1,150 with some of my weaker bullets, like Lv30 Frozen Shot.