Sleeping Warrior S2?

[jayster]

Two quick questions,

1. Will you be able to find hard / power charges still or the cati / power here?

2. After Sleeping Warriors S2, do you think hard / power charges will drop in price?
(I have been offered 4.5 million for mine and I want to know whether to sell it and buy one alot cheaper later on or hold it incase prices go up on them)

[HFlowen]

HPC drops from the rare Svatlus. I think Cati/power is a De ragan s2 drop actually...probably mistaken.

Anyway, I'd say keep it. I've seen many people argue over the usefullness over the HPC (it takes too much PP, SPS is better, cati has no penalties, blah blah.)

The fact of the matter is, The Hard Power Charge has the highest power increase of any unit currently obtainable. In that respect, it is the best. That's all there is to it.

[HFlowen]

Actually, i think i went completely out of tangent with my previous post.

I do that alot.


I dunno how the 360 economy works soo..... w/e keep it.

[jayster]

Well if Cati / power is what I'v heard, it's +250 ATP with no penalties, making it a whole lot better than the hard power. And while, I enjoy my hard power charge, I play this game for the economics. If I can sell mine now for 4.5 million and buy one later on for maybe 2.5 million later on because everyone will be spamming Sleeping warriors S2 for svaltus edge and phyco wand, then I played my chess well.

But the switch side to that is, there always could be another rise in prices and I could be left a million or some short to buy a new one without being able to find a cati / power from de ragon.

[HFlowen]

it's +120 atp, no penalties.

[jayster]

dang, are you serious? That's garbage if it is then. I really hope it's better than an A rank unit since it's S rank....

[HFlowen]

It's an A rank unit too... where do you get your info from? O.o

[jayster]

i dont know ::shrug::

Why can't their be a Giga skill pp Save / Power Charge.. Reduces PP cost and does alot of damage http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif


EDIT: I was looking at the slot units for the item database and cati / power isn't even on there :? How do we know what it is!?!?!



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[Soukosa]

On 2007-06-23 20:08, jayster wrote:
1. Will you be able to find hard / power charges still or the cati / power here?

No. Lv 106 Orgdus drops the board for the 10* GRM sword.



2. After Sleeping Warriors S2, do you think hard / power charges will drop in price?
(I have been offered 4.5 million for mine and I want to know whether to sell it and buy one alot cheaper later on or hold it incase prices go up on them)

Hard / Power Charge is still stronger than Cati / Power by 40 ATP (160 vs 120). The price may drop a bit but it'll still be the strongest ATP unit and rough to get, so it'll still be worth a lot.

[Shiryuu]

Doubt Cati / Power will replace anything. It only drops in one place.

[Dirkster111]

No way I would sell my HPC, I worked to hard to get it just to sell for some haxeta.

[APEXi]

there is no haxeta on 360

[Tekershee]

It wouldn't make sense for Cati/Power to have more ATP than SPS or HPC because it has no drawbacks whereas the latter two do (-80ATA, 150% PP Usage) etc.

Even higher ranking units might have more atp, but there are high versions of SPS/HPC I believe.

[Golto]

40 more atp in the best pa % and element % would only be around 16~20 more damage per hit lol. Cati/ Power ftw.

[Arika]

you can compare the price in JP:

Cati/Power 13.5-20 mil meseta!!
HPC 5-12 mil meseta!!







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[Rashiid]

id sell it now. 4.5mil is nice. if your expecting more; thats just greed.

[jayster]

Well ill just hold onto my hard power untill I get a cati power and ill see whichone I like more.

[Neith]

Cati / Power =/= garbage

120ATP for no penality? I'd say that's pretty awesome. Beast Female fF with that= 974ATP, plus weapon ATP >_>. HPC increases PP use by a lot, and SPS lowers ATA, which is (debatable) bad on a HU. To me, Cati / Power looks like a solid unit.

[jayster]

Where will we be able to get the ophra / power?

[Golto]

On 2007-06-24 08:50, jayster wrote:
Where will we be able to get the ophra / power?



That is a good question. Would require a new mission, event mission drop, or higher than s2 misson rank for Planis Overlord. The Famtisu Cup has had a lot of previously unavailable lower ranked units to drop from boss boxes (tero?te /hp restore and hard/hp restore to name a few). No new srank units other than the one that can be dropped from DG S2 so far though. We might have to wait for AOI to get it to drop.

[Shiryuu]

On 2007-06-24 08:50, jayster wrote:
Where will we be able to get the ophra / power?


There is no such thing (ever)?

[Golto]

There is an orpa / power unit in the itemdata its just that since it was offline as well the person who did the unreleased item lists didn't include it.

[jayster]

yeah I saw the item in the database so and I couldnt think of anywhere you'd be able to get it besides maybe De Ragnus S2?

[Golto]

De Ragnus s2 is cati /hit heh. Like in my previous post up there JPN doesn't have it yet online and I don't think it will drop from Seed Awakening S2 judging from the drops in the Hive Famitsu missions.

[360NyTeMaRe]

On 2007-06-23 20:12, HFlowen wrote:
The fact of the matter is, The Hard Power Charge has the highest power increase of any unit currently obtainable. In that respect, it is the best. That's all there is to it.

Amen! I think everyone should sell me their Hard / Power Charge for what it's worth, not what the rarity is worth. I'd say 750k is a good price.