PSU-PC/PS2: Kitty's TL ^^ (including har/quick)

[thekitty]

what i have

hard/hit charge
50% ground har-senba
38% ground hiragi-senba
38% light hiragi-senba
38% electric hiragi-senba

what i want

tero/legs

*I have an extra har/quick that I will only trade for either a sori/tech charge or psycho wand (after the next update, of course)

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[DavidCrosby]

what can i get if i get you tero / legs

[Ryoki]

Interesting trade. Har quick is a useful unit, but you say you will only trade for Sori/ Tech charge.

Sadly, I think har quick is your only chance at a burn /resist

May i ask what slots higari senba has? And what star rating?

[thekitty]

har/quick is much more valuable than a burn/resist and much more useful. a 1:1 trade between the two will never happen. har/quick and sori/tech charge is a pretty even trade. hiragi-senba is 8* and has head, body, extra slots.

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[Foxxie]

I have a Sori tech Charge........but I dunno if Har/quick alone is worth it, its the economy at large thats put the "value" on Har / quick. Me / quick is just as good and easier to find. Sori Tech / Charge however is a sick unit with no similars out there, at least not right now

[majorgamer55]

psyco wand? wow. . .

[purdylink]

On 2007-07-09 19:40, majorgamer55 wrote:
psyco wand? wow. . .



you probably have had to be part of the psobb community to understand what psycho wand really means, lol.

[Sakura-drops]

yes kitty i'm posting on both of your threads

you only want a psoho wand or that, personally i'd value the psychowand more....but thats just me. Seemingly because it would be the highest rank staff weapon. Well i'm desperate and willing to try anything. here's my list lemme know if you like something or half http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif will trade

http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=147244&forum=2&9



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[Ryoki]

On 2007-07-04 15:18, thekitty wrote:
har/quick is much more valuable than a burn/resist and much more useful. a 1:1 trade between the two will never happen. har/quick and sori/tech charge is a pretty even trade. hiragi-senba is 8* and has head, body, extra slots.


If you say so.
I'm more interested in negating burn completely rather than increasing my casting speed a bit at expense of quite a bit of power.

And I can guarentee that I could get a 1:1 trade for it.

But the unit is too useful for me to do that.

[thekitty]

On 2007-07-09 19:38, Foxxie wrote:
I have a Sori tech Charge........but I dunno if Har/quick alone is worth it, its the economy at large thats put the "value" on Har / quick. Me / quick is just as good and easier to find. Sori Tech / Charge however is a sick unit with no similars out there, at least not right now



take a look at cherry's dmg comparisons between a har and a me, and you'll see a me isn't just as good. sori is actually a limited use unit. i'm only trying to get it to switch when i use dam- and some nos- techs.


On 2007-07-09 19:48, Sakura-drops wrote:
yes kitty i'm posting on both of your threads

you only want a psoho wand or that, personally i'd value the psychowand more....but thats just me. Seemingly because it would be the highest rank staff weapon. Well i'm desperate and willing to try anything. here's my list lemme know if you like something or half http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif will trade

http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=147244&forum=2&9



best force unit for best rod. if you go by *, then te/tech PP save would be the best unit then, but how many people would actually value it like that.


On 2007-07-09 20:41, Ryoki wrote:
If you say so.
I'm more interested in negating burn completely rather than increasing my casting speed a bit at expense of quite a bit of power.

And I can guarentee that I could get a 1:1 trade for it.

But the unit is too useful for me to do that.



burn is also limited use. don't try and make it any other way. the unit is less useful than even a NPC store bought mega/rainbow on any missions that don't have a significant chance to cause burn. i would rather use tero/legs anyways, so i took out burn from my want list.



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[Foxxie]

Ive used Me and Har to compare before, not enough of a difference to really count. and why would Sori tech be a limited use item? since when has higher damage ever been a limit lol (UNLESS you're tech raising)

[Ryoki]

On 2007-07-09 21:04, thekitty wrote:

On 2007-07-09 19:38, Foxxie wrote:
I have a Sori tech Charge........but I dunno if Har/quick alone is worth it, its the economy at large thats put the "value" on Har / quick. Me / quick is just as good and easier to find. Sori Tech / Charge however is a sick unit with no similars out there, at least not right now



take a look at cherry's dmg comparisons between a har and a me, and you'll see a me isn't just as good. sori is actually a limited use unit. i'm only trying to get it to switch when i use dam- and some nos- techs.


On 2007-07-09 19:48, Sakura-drops wrote:
yes kitty i'm posting on both of your threads

you only want a psoho wand or that, personally i'd value the psychowand more....but thats just me. Seemingly because it would be the highest rank staff weapon. Well i'm desperate and willing to try anything. here's my list lemme know if you like something or half http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif will trade

http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=147244&forum=2&9



best force unit for best rod. if you go by *, then te/tech PP save would be the best unit then, but how many people would actually value it like that.


On 2007-07-09 20:41, Ryoki wrote:
If you say so.
I'm more interested in negating burn completely rather than increasing my casting speed a bit at expense of quite a bit of power.

And I can guarentee that I could get a 1:1 trade for it.

But the unit is too useful for me to do that.



burn is also limited use. don't try and make it any other way. the unit is less useful than even a NPC store bought mega/rainbow on any missions that don't have a significant chance to cause burn. i would rather use tero/legs anyways, so i took out burn from my want list.



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Hmm...Limited use....
GoF
Plains Overlord
Endrum Remnants
Lab recovery
Any mission involving Goshin or Tengohg
Both Hive missions
Rainbow Beast
Any Mission with Vanda Mehra (Almost all of the moatoob missions)
Any mission I left out with Robotic enemies (most important use of burn / resist.)

Wow, that is such limited use!

Did you know Burn / Resist also has Elemental defense +3? I'de take that over just Elemental Defense +8, without negating burn.

And don't give me this "Just use an anti crap~."

It's for convience.
JUST LIKE HAR QUICK!

Any Foie, many types of traps, and robot explosions can cause burn.

Which, in most cases, one of these is pretty much in every mission besides some Relics Missions.

I love how that is limited use right there.

Also:

There is a sori tech save unit.

That's better than "TE" tech save, if you ask me.

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And one more thing...

Why be so greedy when you claim this is an "extra" Har / Quick?

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[thekitty]

On 2007-07-09 22:15, Ryoki wrote:
Hmm...Limited use....
GoF
Plains Overlord
Endrum Remnants
Lab recovery
Any mission involving Goshin or Tengohg
Both Hive missions
Rainbow Beast
Any Mission with Vanda Mehra (Almost all of the moatoob missions)
Any mission I left out with Robotic enemies (most important use of burn / resist.)

Wow, that is such limited use!

i'll give you exploding robots, goshin, and gaozorans. tengohg's gifoie is extremely weak. a good fire armor will negate it. for the many ppl who fires from long range, vanda's diga is what we're concerned with. even then, the missions with these enemies have enemies that don't cause burn. so the unit doesn't help when you meet a non-burn-causing enemy.


On 2007-07-09 22:15, Ryoki wrote:
Did you know Burn / Resist also has Elemental defense +3? I'de take that over just Elemental Defense +8, without negating burn.

if you actually knew how element % worked, then you'll realize how much that extra 5% protects. certainly, much more than tero/guard that everyone loves.

anyways, this is all moot, as i would actually prefer tero/legs anyways over burn/resist. high fire armor + newman FT high MST = most of those enemy fire techs do 0 dmg.


On 2007-07-09 21:12, Foxxie wrote:
Ive used Me and Har to compare before, not enough of a difference to really count. and why would Sori tech be a limited use item? since when has higher damage ever been a limit lol (UNLESS you're tech raising)

read here. http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=144815&forum=22&start=0&0

anyways, higher numbers doesn't mean higher dmg because you're casting incredibly slower. like i just said, STT will be the most benefit when casting faster doesn't matter, as in dam- and certain nos- techs. casting faster also makes it easier to land techs and cast before being interrupted.

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[xBlack_Wingx]

Wow you seem to get in alot of arguments on the official boards and here.

[Sakura-drops]

to avoid getting into an argument here, i withdraw my bid http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif its not worth the hassle

[pRoJeCtFaMe]

On 2007-07-09 23:30, xBlack_Wingx wrote:
Wow you seem to get in alot of arguments on the official boards and here.

i was about to say the same thing http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif most of your post in this board arent even trade offers, its just you speaking your mind which no one really cares abou..

and how the heck is a burn/resist and har/quick a 1:1 trade!?

[Ryoki]

On 2007-07-10 00:34, pRoJeCtFaMe wrote:

On 2007-07-09 23:30, xBlack_Wingx wrote:
Wow you seem to get in alot of arguments on the official boards and here.

i was about to say the same thing http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif most of your post in this board arent even trade offers, its just you speaking your mind which no one really cares abou..

and how the heck is a burn/resist and har/quick a 1:1 trade!?

I don't know, It probably isn't.

The real reason I was arguing was because she orginally wanted burn /resist, and now apparently hates it for some reason.
But yeah, good point, i'll be quiet.

[thekitty]

On 2007-07-09 23:30, xBlack_Wingx wrote:
Wow you seem to get in alot of arguments on the official boards and here.



no, just with a few certain idiots. guess har/quick brings out certain emotions from potential buyers.


On 2007-07-10 00:20, Sakura-drops wrote:
to avoid getting into an argument here, i withdraw my bid http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif its not worth the hassle



yea, good idea there. may want to think twice next time to rant on people helping you.


On 2007-07-10 00:34, pRoJeCtFaMe wrote:

On 2007-07-09 23:30, xBlack_Wingx wrote:
Wow you seem to get in alot of arguments on the official boards and here.

i was about to say the same thing http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif most of your post in this board arent even trade offers, its just you speaking your mind which no one really cares abou..

and how the heck is a burn/resist and har/quick a 1:1 trade!?



what are you talking about fame? you sure didn't think that way when i gave you those free armors.


On 2007-07-10 08:28, Ryoki wrote:
I don't know, It probably isn't.

The real reason I was arguing was because she orginally wanted burn /resist, and now apparently hates it for some reason.
But yeah, good point, i'll be quiet.


i included burn/resist because it's actually more common than tero/legs, so there would be a higher chance of someone with it around here, but it'll still end up being a worse unit for a ft than a tero/legs.




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[Ryoki]

On 2007-07-10 09:25, thekitty wrote:

On 2007-07-09 23:30, xBlack_Wingx wrote:
Wow you seem to get in alot of arguments on the official boards and here.



no, just with a few certain idiots. guess har/quick brings out certain emotions from potential buyers.


On 2007-07-10 00:20, Sakura-drops wrote:
to avoid getting into an argument here, i withdraw my bid http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif its not worth the hassle



yea, good idea there. may want to think twice next time to rant on people helping you.


On 2007-07-10 00:34, pRoJeCtFaMe wrote:

On 2007-07-09 23:30, xBlack_Wingx wrote:
Wow you seem to get in alot of arguments on the official boards and here.

i was about to say the same thing http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif most of your post in this board arent even trade offers, its just you speaking your mind which no one really cares abou..

and how the heck is a burn/resist and har/quick a 1:1 trade!?



what are you talking about fame? you sure didn't think that way when i gave you those free armors.


On 2007-07-10 08:28, Ryoki wrote:
I don't know, It probably isn't.

The real reason I was arguing was because she orginally wanted burn /resist, and now apparently hates it for some reason.
But yeah, good point, i'll be quiet.


i included burn/resist because it's actually more common than tero/legs, so there would be a higher chance of someone with it around here, but it'll still end up being a worse unit for a ft than a tero/legs.




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Oh, I thought you meant you thought it was bad in general >.>
Yes, I can see why Tero / Legs would help a lot more, in that case, sorry.

Def and Evp are things that are good to have a boost to, correcT?