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Allison_W
Jul 6, 2007, 05:42 AM
Well, it's confirmed.

* The level cap is going up to 90.
* The frying pan is being distributed, and the 3* luck week begins.
* There will be a new party mission (ranks C through S2) at West Kugu Desert. Like Crimson Beast, it can be completed with one person, but requires 3 people to get an S.
* We're getting Sleeping Warriors S2, Plains Overlord S2, and Mad Creatures S2 (on the last one, I think).
* Several missions are being rebalanced. Valley of Carnage, Mine Defense, Tunnel Recapture, Lab Recovery, Eastern Peril, Forest Infiltration, Desert Goliath, Demons Above, Moonlight Beast (I think Moonlight Beast, anyway; the rest, I'm more certain of).
* A couple of missions are also being "refined"--I'm not certain exactly what is meant by this, but I believe the two missions in question are Desert Terror and System Defense (thank you, beatrixkiddo).
* More S-rank weapon boards, natch.
* We is gettin' a flippin' sweet Neudaiz lobby. We're talking moonlight and crap. Star Spirit Festival or summat. There'll be a special deco sold in the shop.

Sauce and pics: http://xbox360.phantasystaruniverse.jp/news/wis/?mode=view&id=73, because SoA can't be assed to update the American page.

A special "Thank You" to the Google translator thingamajog, because it and the Japanese 360 page are more useful than SoA.

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AweOfShe
Jul 6, 2007, 05:45 AM
That lobby looks hawt. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Mayu
Jul 6, 2007, 05:46 AM
ah 90 I been waiting

No rest for Rena http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif ( I do get sleep! <.< )
I won't sleep Dj! I promise http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif hehe <3

Allison_W
Jul 6, 2007, 05:46 AM
On 2007-07-06 03:45, AweOfShe wrote:
That lobby looks hawt. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif



Hell yes it does!

-Ryuki-
Jul 6, 2007, 05:57 AM
Hot lobby means hot pics, and new siggy <3

Shiro_Ryuu
Jul 6, 2007, 06:06 AM
Oh man, to hell with Mad Beasts S2, Plains Overlord S2 is my new hunting ground, no more map hunting for Vahra maps [cuz Plains Overlord always has them http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif], and [if I should ever reach the ragan], I might even find me a Cati / Power.

Tekershee
Jul 6, 2007, 06:13 AM
90 KAPOW!

beatrixkiddo
Jul 6, 2007, 06:13 AM
Something involving a "sealing device defense," hell if I know.

I assume either System Defense or Mine Defense? Or maybe Tunnel Recapture...

Allison_W
Jul 6, 2007, 06:16 AM
On 2007-07-06 04:13, beatrixkiddo wrote:

Something involving a "sealing device defense," hell if I know.

I assume either System Defense or Mine Defense? Or maybe Tunnel Recapture...



Oh, very good! I doubt it's Mine Defense, given that the Google translator actually translated Mine Defense as "Mine Defense" and this other thing as "sealing device defense," but System Defense sounds likely. I'll edit the first post.

Midicronica
Jul 6, 2007, 06:24 AM
Good job, Allison_W.

My Xbox decided to start working again out of the blue. I'm not sure how long it'll last, but damn it I swear if it breaks again like a day before this update........ http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_argh.gif

Allison_W
Jul 6, 2007, 06:27 AM
On 2007-07-06 04:24, Shadow_Moses wrote:
Good job, Allison_W.

*glows like a kindergartener with a gold star*


On 2007-07-06 04:24, Shadow_Moses wrote: My Xbox decided to start working again out of the blue. I'm not sure how long it'll last, but damn it I swear if it breaks again like a day before this update........ http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_argh.gif

Do I offer yayness on it working again or condolences on its instability?

Midicronica
Jul 6, 2007, 06:35 AM
I believe the condolences would fit the situation best. -_-; I wish I had the money laying around to go out and buy a new console (Elite preferably).

I do get the console fixed for free though. A day after the son of bitch decides to fuck up on me, Microsoft announces that they're exteneding all warranty's on all 360's to 3 fucking years! Perfect timing. Problem is, with this great move happening, people have been sending in they're Xbox's like crackheads and the wait to have your box returned to you is like 3-4 weeks.

Why did I type this out again?

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gifn-Topic: I wonder what the "rebalancing" off missions is about. Was there anything in there a bit more specific? Also, with the addition of Sleeping Warriors S2 a friend of mine will disappear off into the relics for a very long time.. *coughSychosiscough*

Sydz
Jul 6, 2007, 06:36 AM
Hooray! New content, and then Otakon a week later.

DaRkWoLf30
Jul 6, 2007, 06:37 AM
Thanks for the update info http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Allison_W
Jul 6, 2007, 06:45 AM
On 2007-07-06 04:35, Shadow_Moses wrote:
I believe the condolences would fit the situation best. -_-; I wish I had the money laying around to go out and buy a new console (Elite preferably).

My condolences. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif


On 2007-07-06 04:35, Shadow_Moses wrote:
on-Topic: I wonder what the "rebalancing" off missions is about. Was there anything in there a bit more specific?

Naw, sorry. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif


On 2007-07-06 04:35, Shadow_Moses wrote:
Also, with the addition of Sleeping Warriors S2 a friend of mine will disappear off into the relics for a very long time.. *coughSychosiscough*

Me too, probably. I wants mah hoog cuttar.

Allison_W
Jul 6, 2007, 06:45 AM
On 2007-07-06 04:37, DaRkWoLf30 wrote:
Thanks for the update info http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

You's welcome. :3

FUFME
Jul 6, 2007, 06:47 AM
On 2007-07-06 03:42, Allison_W wrote:
Well, it's confirmed.
Star Spirit Festival or summat. There'll be a special deco sold in the shop.



Interesting, I wonder if Nagaraki Syrup is one of the ingredents used for making this room decoration ..?

Midicronica
Jul 6, 2007, 07:03 AM
I'm not sure, but I'm almost willing to bet we might see one of these decorations:

http://www.pso-world.com/psu/items/891/1027-m.jpg

http://www.pso-world.com/psu/items/895/1035-m.jpg

with this new theme on Neudaiz.

Guess, we'll have to wait and see? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_confused.gif

-Ryuki-
Jul 6, 2007, 07:05 AM
Buying both if both come out. 10 of each.

Finae
Jul 6, 2007, 07:23 AM
Yay, all the nubz return to the raffon field base buahahaha! The revival of overpopulated raffon field base of the past. Gawd, I hope that neudaiz party mission dies now http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif.

Kinda sucks though, on one hand, I need that new sword that comes out as it looks badass, but I also need that psycho wand badly. I know I wouldn't get them anytime soon like others due to my natural rl luck, but choosing the one to hunt more is going to be a issue.

Well say goodbye to desert terror S2. Even those fortetechers are nonexistant there these days, but I know where you'll be able to find majority after update. Same thing goes with those melee as there are a lot of good drops for them on these 2 missions.

Forget level cap, I think my mind will be more on getting kan yu and psycho wand more than level.

Mayu
Jul 6, 2007, 07:25 AM
Iccck Psycho wand Mats http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

-_- Over 99 mill of mats (PS2-PC) actually it's even more lol

<.<

Reipard
Jul 6, 2007, 07:33 AM
It might be prudent to remind that we aren't necessarily following the JP release schedule. All of that stuff is about as confirmed as previous rumors were.

We will no doubt get most of it, but don't excited about something then complain that it is missing when the update occurs.

Allison_W
Jul 6, 2007, 07:38 AM
On 2007-07-06 05:23, Finae wrote:

Kinda sucks though, on one hand, I need that new sword that comes out as it looks badass, but I also need that psycho wand badly. I know I wouldn't get them anytime soon like others due to my natural rl luck, but choosing the one to hunt more is going to be a issue.

I'll be hunting a Huge Cutter, Svaltus Sword, and Psycho Wand at once, given their boards (and a lot of their mats, for that matter) can all drop in Sleeping Warriors S2.

I'm one of the ones you probably won't see hunting Plains Overlord S2 for some time (unless it's just for a Cati / Power), given that I can't use a Kan Yu anyway. Stoopid boys' club BS.


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Allison_W
Jul 6, 2007, 07:39 AM
On 2007-07-06 05:33, Reipard wrote:
It might be prudent to remind that we aren't necessarily following the JP release schedule. All of that stuff is about as confirmed as previous rumors were.

We will no doubt get most of it, but don't excited about something then complain that it is missing when the update occurs.



This is the 360 page I'm pulling from. The 360 follows the US PC/PS2 release schedule.

drizzle
Jul 6, 2007, 08:00 AM
On 2007-07-06 04:35, Shadow_Moses wrote:
on-Topic: I wonder what the "rebalancing" off missions is about. Was there anything in there a bit more specific?

There was talk a while ago about rebalancing the MP and Meseta rewards for many missions. I bet that's what they're doing.

Mewn
Jul 6, 2007, 08:07 AM
Rebalancing the rewards is the obvious answer (and most likely the correct one, as per Occam's Razor) - but... what exactly is the difference between 'rebalancing' and 'refining', I wonder...

I mean, one of the two could entail reward rebalancing, monster level rebalancing, or even changing the map layouts and spawns. ST are so horribly vague.

Allison_W
Jul 6, 2007, 08:12 AM
Well, beyond that, I got this information by translating a Japanese page with Google's translator thingamabobber. It's a lovely little tool, but I can't say the results are always crystal-clear. It may not be ST's vagueness so much as difficulties in translation.

Mewn
Jul 6, 2007, 08:15 AM
As far as I can see, it doesn't give any details anyway. Just says 'The following missions are being rebalanced' and 'The following missions are being refined.'

Golto
Jul 6, 2007, 08:21 AM
I hope refined equals less lag and no more freezing (for dimma) for those two moatoob missions.

A2K
Jul 6, 2007, 08:23 AM
I suspected we'd get the Neudaiz Festival of Light eventually, considering how we received the previous Parum Commemoration in-game holiday. I wonder what sort of holiday (if any) Moatoob celebrates, and when?

The new party mission is the previously mentioned "Stolen Weapon of Destruction" (expect the English name to be "Stolen Weapon" or some other truncated version of that). It leaves from the Ajis Kugu Oasis mission counter.

Golto
Jul 6, 2007, 08:26 AM
The new party mission is supposed to have Grinna Bete S as regular spawns I think. Now everyone can get the Grinna Bete S deco.



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White_Mage
Jul 6, 2007, 08:30 AM
the lobby looks awsome..i have been waiting for the frying pan and the other things too.http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

Neith
Jul 6, 2007, 08:32 AM
Ooh nice, I wouldn't mind a Grinna S deco to fill out my monster-themed room http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

Psycho Wand will be awesome, but I've heard how rare it's meant to be, so I'll be in Sleeping Warriors S2 hunting Svaltus Sword, not Psycho Wand. Things don't drop when you look for them, right? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

I'm curious to know what this 'rebalancing' is. The missions affected seem to be the ones with either terrible rewards or overly good ones, maybe it's a reward rebalance? Goliath S is pretty rough sometimes, and the reward doesn't do it justice, whereas Lab Recovery is a cakewalk and gives a load of MP..

ThEoRy
Jul 6, 2007, 08:39 AM
On 2007-07-06 06:07, Mewn wrote:
Rebalancing the rewards is the obvious answer (and most likely the correct one, as per Occam's Razor) - but... what exactly is the difference between 'rebalancing' and 'refining', I wonder...

I mean, one of the two could entail reward rebalancing, monster level rebalancing, or even changing the map layouts and spawns. ST are so horribly vague.


If taken literally, to refine would seem to be more of a minute tweaking whereas rebalanced would mean that, well, things were out of balance and need to be evened out a bit.

SiGeL
Jul 6, 2007, 08:40 AM
I really hope it is reward rebalancing, as then it may influence some to branch out from the hotspots a little more, and for those of us running these other missions already, coming out with a little more than 5k in our pockets http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Thanks for the info!

Allison_W
Jul 6, 2007, 08:45 AM
Problem with diminishing hotspots is that on the PC/PS2 servers, a crowd at a hotspot is often the only way to get a party.

Reipard
Jul 6, 2007, 08:54 AM
This is the 360 page I'm pulling from. The 360 follows the US PC/PS2 release schedule.

Don't jump at me, I'm just being realistic.

It is still not a guaruntee until the official US site posts what we are getting. I have already made my statement and intend to drop it there.

BanF
Jul 6, 2007, 08:58 AM
Psycho Wand finally coming online... who already has everything needed to make one but the board?



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Akaimizu
Jul 6, 2007, 09:08 AM
Still, it's a good idea. When new missions keep coming out with these rewards, everybody ends up ignoring everything else. A periodic rebalancing is definitely needed to keep the players moving around. Obviously, the areas that are there for low-level players are good enough, since they have to do it to access the others. But once out of that category, people want the incentive to go to these other places. Now there might be people, like some of us, who play a different mission out of variety, or that the monsters are just more fun to fight; but since when in any online game have we been the norm?

Oddly enough, even though people may play Mad Beasts a lot for drops, I can see myself playing it just for the fun of taking GolDovas down. It's like the largest pig roast ever conceived (and the largest damage I get to see)...what's missing is the Leis, some Haupia, coconuts, lots of pineapple, dancers, etc. As for Poi...they can keep the Poi...that stuff has no taste. It has a texture but without the taste to go with it.

P.S.-- So close, but level 75 can't come soon enough. Three of those Goldovas and I can honestly say I've done *over 9000* damage per tick.

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SiGeL
Jul 6, 2007, 09:23 AM
On 2007-07-06 06:54, Reipard wrote:

This is the 360 page I'm pulling from. The 360 follows the US PC/PS2 release schedule.

Don't jump at me, I'm just being realistic.

It is still not a guaruntee until the official US site posts what we are getting. I have already made my statement and intend to drop it there.



Nobody was jumping, it's just that it isn't someone suspecting or guessing at what we're getting per the JP update schedule. There is no seperate JP servers for 360, they're on the same ones as the US. The Japanese 360 page simply updates with what's coming update-wise much faster than the US one does.



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Rashiid
Jul 6, 2007, 09:24 AM
i tink neudaiz should stay like that

Mewn
Jul 6, 2007, 09:31 AM
Nobody was jumping, it's just that it isn't someone suspecting or guessing at what we're getting per the JP update schedule. There is no seperate JP servers for 360, they're on the same ones as the US. The Japanese 360 page simply updates with what's coming update-wise much faster than the US one does.
Not to mention that the Japanese 360 page has been shown to be more accurate than the US page on at least two occasions.

Akaimizu
Jul 6, 2007, 09:31 AM
Actually, it makes me wonder what it would be like, if they could make the main lobbies actually change the time of day (accelerated of course). Or you see movement in the Colony based on the idea that it's orbiting.

I still remember enjoying the wall screens in the Temple of PSO Episode 2. The way they looked like windows, but they also switched between different backgrounds, making it look like environments changed outside of the room.

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Lykos
Jul 6, 2007, 11:07 AM
Why is the Japanese 360 page so much cooler than ours?

Allison_W
Jul 6, 2007, 11:12 AM
On 2007-07-06 09:07, Lykos wrote:
Why is the Japanese 360 page so much cooler than ours?



Because Sega doesn't care about gaijin.

Kaydin
Jul 6, 2007, 11:25 AM
That decoration is already out, but you have to synth it. Great that it's gonna be in the shops.

And so much for hitting 80 before 90 comes out. Guess I'll have to wait for 100 to join the race. >.>;

Dj_SkyEpic
Jul 6, 2007, 11:43 AM
Oh snap. Luck 3 week AND level 90 ? Well... ORPAD/ GUARD HERE WE COME!

Mayu
Jul 6, 2007, 11:47 AM
http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif ~Steals Orpad/Guard and legs http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

BahnKnakyu
Jul 6, 2007, 11:59 AM
On 2007-07-06 07:08, Akaimizu wrote:
Oddly enough, even though people may play Mad Beasts a lot for drops, I can see myself playing it just for the fun of taking GolDovas down. It's like the largest pig roast ever conceived (and the largest damage I get to see)...what's missing is the Leis, some Haupia, coconuts, lots of pineapple, dancers, etc. As for Poi...they can keep the Poi...that stuff has no taste. It has a texture but without the taste to go with it.


What the heck, you're from Hawaii too?!

DonRoyale
Jul 6, 2007, 12:04 PM
I love you, Allison. <3

Plains Overlord S2, time to powerlevel Shadow GOGOGOGOGOGOGO

Besides, it's time I become less of a burden now...I'm losing to Sano AND Saiffy, wtf fail

Allison_W
Jul 6, 2007, 12:06 PM
On 2007-07-06 10:04, DonRoyale wrote:
I love you, Allison. <3

Yay!

Y'all wouldn't happen to have a sister 'at loves me too, wouldja?

Golto
Jul 6, 2007, 12:17 PM
On 2007-07-06 09:43, Dj_SkyEpic wrote:
Oh snap. Luck 3 week AND level 90 ? Well... ORPAD/ GUARD HERE WE COME!



You mean Orpad/ legs don't you? We won't have access to Desert Golaith S2 with July 13th's update. It doesn't drop from the new co-op mission we are getting either, just Tero/ guard.

A2K
Jul 6, 2007, 12:22 PM
On 2007-07-06 09:25, Kaydin wrote:
That decoration is already out, but you have to synth it. Great that it's gonna be in the shops.

Expect a different decoration to be up for sale versus the already-available Light Festival Decor (from [B] Neudaiz Gift).

Realmz
Jul 6, 2007, 12:22 PM
i just want Rafal Attacker >.>;;;

panzer_unit
Jul 6, 2007, 12:23 PM
units are no good without S-rank armor to match! I'd rather get Tero (for the time being at least)

Freshellent
Jul 6, 2007, 12:25 PM
Oh wow,Nice find Alli. I'm really looking forward to this now. I guess I need to get the alts to 80 so I can put my focus back on Ein for the race to 90.

Almighty_Envy
Jul 6, 2007, 12:25 PM
Once i cap to 90 Im gonna go hunting for all those units i need....

Scion
Jul 6, 2007, 12:26 PM
*sigh*

Level 90...wow what a long way we've come! XD

Maybe now I can break 1000 with barta, lol

Para
Jul 6, 2007, 12:27 PM
The decos are definitely hawt enough ... Now I need to do some redecorating in my cast's room...

SolomonGrundy
Jul 6, 2007, 12:30 PM
Several missions are being rebalanced. Valley of Carnage, Mine Defense, Tunnel Recapture, Lab Recovery, Eastern Peril, Forest Infiltration, Desert Goliath, Demons Above, Moonlight Beast (I think Moonlight Beast, anyway; the rest, I'm more certain of).

The reward for moonlight beast is at least decent. VoC reward is terrible, but Eastern Peril is decent. dunno what the heck is getting done there.


A couple of missions are also being "refined"--I'm not certain exactly what is meant by this, but I believe the two missions in question are Desert Terror and System Defense (thank you, beatrixkiddo).

My opinion is that these missions are too long/too hard for their respective difficulties. I can fly through Neudiaz, and Parum, but those two moatoob missions take forever, not just because the enemies have freakish amounts of HP/special attacks/resistances, but because the levels themselves are so...huge...

maybe they will shorten them by a block?

Siertes
Jul 6, 2007, 12:33 PM
All this other crap coming out...I might have a hard time spamming Desert Terror S2 to lvl90 without any parties there http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

Dj_SkyEpic
Jul 6, 2007, 12:35 PM
On 2007-07-06 10:17, Golto wrote:

On 2007-07-06 09:43, Dj_SkyEpic wrote:
Oh snap. Luck 3 week AND level 90 ? Well... ORPAD/ GUARD HERE WE COME!



You mean Orpad/ legs don't you? We won't have access to Desert Golaith S2 with July 13th's update. It doesn't drop from the new co-op mission we are getting either, just Tero/ guard.

Oh dang. You're right. I didn't look close enough. I kept hoping to myself that there would be a Desert Goliath S2 XD.

Rashiid
Jul 6, 2007, 12:43 PM
maybe they are makin the S drop rate better?

Zorafim
Jul 6, 2007, 12:44 PM
Hm, another major update. I'm interested in seeing what the balance is, but I hope it's for the better. And I'm also interested in that party mission; isn't that the one with the S rank spear? If so, I'm going to have to put both Skela and Fuka hunting on hold (<3 spear).

DarkRM7
Jul 6, 2007, 12:51 PM
Hmmmm ok...the level 90? I still got sooooooo much before i get there i don't even worry about it..but luck? OMG OMG..lol i must get to S-rank missions ASAP!!!! Oh and the Neaudaiz lobby update is hawttttt!!!!

Golto
Jul 6, 2007, 01:41 PM
Party mission is a misnomer, it is a co-op mission like Crimson Beast. So deaths do not insta-fail and the rewards are lack-luster. I'd like to see how long it takes to finish to see if it is a viable option for [B]Blackbull hunters.

For the 10* spear board we need the Zoalgoug co-op mission on Neudiaz. It has a mix of Neudiaz and Moatoob monsters plus Kog Nadds are 10 levels higher than other monsters there on S2. With this current strange update pattern who knows we might get this mission July 27th.

panzer_unit
Jul 6, 2007, 01:48 PM
On 2007-07-06 10:30, SolomonGrundy wrote:
My opinion is that these missions are too long/too hard for their respective difficulties. I can fly through Neudiaz, and Parum, but those two moatoob missions take forever, not just because the enemies have freakish amounts of HP/special attacks/resistances, but because the levels themselves are so...huge...

maybe they will shorten them by a block?


As long as they keep the same number of Bils and Dura Goras ... it's great for axe and grenade hunting. Even if you just get cash drops thats a LOT of money.

Ash1ey
Jul 6, 2007, 01:52 PM
Hmm this is very sweet indeed http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

A2K
Jul 6, 2007, 01:52 PM
On 2007-07-06 11:41, Golto wrote:
Party mission is a misnomer, it is a co-op mission like Crimson Beast. So deaths do not insta-fail and the rewards are lack-luster. I'd like to see how long it takes to finish to see if it is a viable option for [B]Blackbull hunters.

It's the same thing. The Japanese site has always labeled all of them as "party missions" while the US site opts to call them "co-op missions", regardless of success conditions or starting counter.

SolomonGrundy
Jul 6, 2007, 01:58 PM
It's just all the running around too. Compare VoC or Desert Goliath to System Defense in terms of sheer area.

my virtual legs are tired!

Golto
Jul 6, 2007, 03:27 PM
On 2007-07-06 11:52, A2K wrote:

On 2007-07-06 11:41, Golto wrote:
Party mission is a misnomer, it is a co-op mission like Crimson Beast. So deaths do not insta-fail and the rewards are lack-luster. I'd like to see how long it takes to finish to see if it is a viable option for [B]Blackbull hunters.

It's the same thing. The Japanese site has always labeled all of them as "party missions" while the US site opts to call them "co-op missions", regardless of success conditions or starting counter.



Here are the major differences between a party mission and a co-op mission.

1. Mission counter. Party missions are at the Guardian Branches of the Planets. Co-ops can be anywhere.
2. Mission Failure. Party missions fail if anyone dies or leaves the party. This is not true for co-op missions.
3. Mission rewards. Party missions have high rewards compared to what is available at their first release and give Grinder Bases for Sranking. Co-ops have decent rewards but no Grinder Bases just the standard rewards.
4. Number of mission ranks available. Party missions only have C-A while co-ops eventually all get C-S2. New co-ops now start off with C-S2.

Now can you see the difference?



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Allison_W
Jul 6, 2007, 03:40 PM
Ohshi--

I just got frontpage'd

A2K
Jul 6, 2007, 03:56 PM
On 2007-07-06 13:27, Golto wrote:

On 2007-07-06 11:52, A2K wrote:

On 2007-07-06 11:41, Golto wrote:
Party mission is a misnomer, it is a co-op mission like Crimson Beast. So deaths do not insta-fail and the rewards are lack-luster. I'd like to see how long it takes to finish to see if it is a viable option for [B]Blackbull hunters.

It's the same thing. The Japanese site has always labeled all of them as "party missions" while the US site opts to call them "co-op missions", regardless of success conditions or starting counter.



Here are the major differences between a party mission and a co-op mission.

1. Mission counter. Party missions are at the Guardian Branches of the Planets. Co-ops can be anywhere.
2. Mission Failure. Party missions fail if anyone dies or leaves the party. This is not true for co-op missions.
3. Mission rewards. Party missions have high rewards compared to what is available at their first release and give Grinder Bases for Sranking. Co-ops have decent rewards but no Grinder Bases just the standard rewards.
4. Number of mission ranks available. Party missions only have C-A while co-ops eventually all get C-S2. New co-ops now start off with C-S2.

Now can you see the difference?

It's certainly your prerogative to use that definition. I was pointing out that no official source makes such a distinction, though.

Jakosifer
Jul 6, 2007, 04:15 PM
Thank god, new lvl cap = No more me hating this game out of boredom

Hopefully some S rank Twin Daggers are coming out....I swear...I'll never be emo again if they do. ><

Oh and I have 4 of those Light Festival Decos from awhile ago. Someone had them for sale at 200k a piece and they looked so sexy I just had to buy them. <_<



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Helly
Jul 6, 2007, 04:36 PM
Two huge updates in the same month?

I don't believe it.

Golto
Jul 6, 2007, 05:37 PM
On 2007-07-06 13:56, A2K wrote:

It's certainly your prerogative to use that definition. I was pointing out that no official source makes such a distinction, though.



Is what is used ingame official enough? What is used on the websites doesn't always sync up to what is ingame. Go to the Neudiaz or Moatoob Guardian's Branch. Now you'll see they are under the classification Party Mission. Now go to any of the co-op missions and their pre-selection description is Cooperative Free Mission.

So its not my preference it is how they are classified in the game.

AlphaDragoon
Jul 7, 2007, 11:21 AM
Please, S Rank Sabers now? Please?

Lonzell
Jul 7, 2007, 12:32 PM
A bay bay ^_-

imfanboy
Jul 7, 2007, 03:04 PM
s-rank twin daggers drop from 100+ Dilzanen, sorry.

KidoKresh
Jul 7, 2007, 03:09 PM
nooooooo i not even lvl 60 yet;.; are you positive that the U.S. servers get it too?

Niered
Jul 7, 2007, 03:15 PM
On 2007-07-07 13:09, KidoKresh wrote:
nooooooo i not even lvl 60 yet;.; are you positive that the U.S. servers get it too?



Theyre the same server.

KidoKresh
Jul 7, 2007, 03:19 PM
oh ok thank you

shotsfired
Jul 7, 2007, 09:07 PM
On 2007-07-06 11:41, Golto wrote:
Party mission is a misnomer, it is a co-op mission like Crimson Beast. So deaths do not insta-fail and the rewards are lack-luster. I'd like to see how long it takes to finish to see if it is a viable option for [B]Blackbull hunters.

For the 10* spear board we need the Zoalgoug co-op mission on Neudiaz. It has a mix of Neudiaz and Moatoob monsters plus Kog Nadds are 10 levels higher than other monsters there on S2. With this current strange update pattern who knows we might get this mission July 27th.



the blackbull drops here too?? where was the memo??

SStrikerR
Jul 7, 2007, 09:19 PM
2 things-
1. what are req. for plains overlord and mad creatures?
2. hell allison, i didnt know u were terra knight!

Golto
Jul 7, 2007, 09:22 PM
Yes the boss box drops for the new Magas Maggahna co-op mission on S2 rank are similar to Desert Goliath S's boss box drops. So another place to get [B] Blackbull and Tero/ guard.

Micro
Jul 8, 2007, 12:58 AM
On 2007-07-06 03:42, Allison_W wrote:
Well, it's confirmed.

* The level cap is going up to 90.


I wanted to be back in time for this but looks like I'll miss this... http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_cry.gif

Dj_SkyEpic
Jul 8, 2007, 01:01 AM
On 2007-07-07 22:58, Micro wrote:

On 2007-07-06 03:42, Allison_W wrote:
Well, it's confirmed.

* The level cap is going up to 90.


I wanted to be back in time for this but looks like I'll miss this... http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_cry.gif

Hope you find a way to return for it Del.

Micro
Jul 8, 2007, 01:03 AM
Kinda doubt Ill make it, which will make me even farther behind. ><

epr18
Jul 8, 2007, 01:24 AM
beg ur parents to re-connect your internet del! mow the lawn, wash the car, PSU is worth it XD

Para
Jul 8, 2007, 03:53 AM
On 2007-07-07 23:03, Micro wrote:
Kinda doubt Ill make it, which will make me even farther behind. ><

Nice to see you around again Delsaber http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Urtri
Jul 8, 2007, 08:12 AM
Ok i'd just like to point out a few of the advantages and disadvantages of the new Co-op Run we're getting Friday over Desert Golaith for Blackbull Hunting.

Advantages
NO Large type Enemies as standred in a Run (Grinna Bete's S appear as Rare enemies) and only 1 mech type (GSM-05M's)
About 2 1/2th times the MP and Meseta Reward

Disadvantages
A lvl 95 Magas Maghenna instead of a lvl 85.
Lower Exp gain per enemy
Has to be done on S2(lvl75 requirments i belive) rank instead of S(lvl 55 requirment)
It May be longer per run to complete than Desert Golaith(DG) as DG only has 2 Blocks
Longer to get to and you still have to figth a Magas Magenha to get to it anyway

So really i personnaly do NOT see it attracting a lot of attention after the first few days but maybe Desert Goliath will.

RadiantLegend
Jul 8, 2007, 10:17 AM
Does the 11* sword drop fro ragan.

Eleina
Jul 8, 2007, 01:08 PM
On 2007-07-07 23:03, Micro wrote:
Kinda doubt Ill make it, which will make me even farther behind. ><



Del!!! 0.0

Come back as soon as possible http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

AlphaDragoon
Jul 9, 2007, 12:15 AM
So, no S Rank Sabers again? I'm really beginning to think Sega doesn't care about us saber wielding folks... http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

Zorafim
Jul 9, 2007, 02:51 AM
So then, we don't get the spear yet? Oh well, I can wait a bit more to hunt that beautiful piece of purified perfection.
Well then, what S ranks are we getting, then?

Freshellent
Jul 9, 2007, 02:54 AM
On 2007-07-07 23:03, Micro wrote:
Kinda doubt Ill make it, which will make me even farther behind. ><



HE LIVES!

Akaimizu
Jul 9, 2007, 09:39 AM
On 2007-07-06 09:59, BahnKnakyu wrote:

On 2007-07-06 07:08, Akaimizu wrote:
Oddly enough, even though people may play Mad Beasts a lot for drops, I can see myself playing it just for the fun of taking GolDovas down. It's like the largest pig roast ever conceived (and the largest damage I get to see)...what's missing is the Leis, some Haupia, coconuts, lots of pineapple, dancers, etc. As for Poi...they can keep the Poi...that stuff has no taste. It has a texture but without the taste to go with it.


What the heck, you're from Hawaii too?!



I wish. But I've been there. Learned my Scuba there, too. It's the home away from home.

Kietrinia
Jul 9, 2007, 10:08 AM
This is perfect. The level cap just keeps going up to whatever's about 20 levels ahead of me. At this rate, I'll never waste exp, and I'll always have something to reach for! ^-^

EspioKaos
Jul 9, 2007, 10:16 AM
On 2007-07-09 08:08, Kietrinia wrote:
This is perfect. The level cap just keeps going up to whatever's about 20 levels ahead of me. At this rate, I'll never waste exp, and I'll always have something to reach for! ^-^

Heh, I agree. Currently, I'm only about eight levels off of the 80 cap, but with it going up at the end of the week, I won't have any fear of not seeing EXP rise from an enemy's fallen body. (It was bad enough seeing thousands of MP go to waste after capping Fortetecher a while ago, but I've since switched to Wartecher to ease that problem. I just miss my high MST/TP! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif On the other side, at least I can use my knuckles again.)

Akaimizu
Jul 9, 2007, 10:22 AM
On 2007-07-09 08:08, Kietrinia wrote:
This is perfect. The level cap just keeps going up to whatever's about 20 levels ahead of me. At this rate, I'll never waste exp, and I'll always have something to reach for! ^-^



Well, like me and a few others, the level cap keeps increasing before you reach it. I'm approaching 75 and it goes up again. Then again, consider us lucky, we've never been in a position where we stop seeing EXP benefit us. We might have it like PSO, where we don't see a limit until the real limit hits. Lvl 100.

Neith
Jul 9, 2007, 10:28 AM
On 2007-07-08 08:17, Ragolismine wrote:
Does the 11* sword drop fro ragan.



Yeah, Kan Yu drops from boss boxes in Overlord S2. Shame it's male only, it's the best looking sword.

except Agito Replica

Golto
Jul 9, 2007, 11:32 AM
Urtri are you sure Grinne Bete S are not normal spawns in the new co-op? I was told they were.

Shardio
Jul 9, 2007, 01:55 PM
Yay, 90, now maxing out gets even further delayed for us casual players http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Zorafim
Jul 9, 2007, 05:54 PM
Consider yourselves lucky for not being capped. The game gets real boring, really fast if you have nothing to hunt for.
Normally, there are three things you'd want to hunt for: exp, meseta, and mp. MP capped out really quickly with the coming of the labs, so there's not much reason now to get mp. Meseta is nice for PSUjp and PSU360 because of the somewhat stable economy, but PC/PS2 users have more meseta than they can shake a stick at, and nothing to buy with it. And of course, those at the level cap have no reason for exp.

When hunting for S ranks, the only thing I can really gain is negligible amount of meseta (or the S rank itself, but Murphy's law makes that impossible). Now that the cap is raised, I can also look foward to having my stats raised by a negligible amount every now and them as well. The mp is still not an issue, since I can never seem to successfully switch to a new job (they're never as cool as fF), but at least I can get three things while hunting.

Allison_W
Jul 9, 2007, 05:58 PM
On 2007-07-09 08:28, UrikoBB3 wrote:

On 2007-07-08 08:17, Ragolismine wrote:
Does the 11* sword drop fro ragan.
Yeah, Kan Yu drops from boss boxes in Overlord S2. Shame it's male only, it's the best looking sword.

SHAME INDEED. NOT HAPPY MAKING.

XenithFlare
Jul 9, 2007, 06:15 PM
....I just want my S-rank guns. :3

Zorafim
Jul 9, 2007, 08:56 PM
I still want to know what S ranks we're getting, along with other S ranks we already have that can be hunted along side the new ones.

And I too and saddened that the most feminine sword in the game is male only.

Para
Jul 9, 2007, 09:00 PM
Could I like... GET SOME FREAKING S RANK WEAPONS FOR MY GUNTECHER PLZ?!

edit: lawl post 3333


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Shishi-O
Jul 9, 2007, 09:53 PM
On 2007-07-07 22:58, Micro wrote:

On 2007-07-06 03:42, Allison_W wrote:
Well, it's confirmed.

* The level cap is going up to 90.


I wanted to be back in time for this but looks like I'll miss this... http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_cry.gif

i'm stuck in the philipines until the 30th....http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

RadiantLegend
Jul 10, 2007, 12:29 AM
Grina bete S normal spawn? ;o maybe i can finally get that decor.

Shiro_Ryuu
Jul 10, 2007, 06:02 AM
How is the Kan Yu femenine?

Allison_W
Jul 10, 2007, 06:04 AM
On 2007-07-09 19:00, Para wrote:
Could I like... GET SOME FREAKING S RANK WEAPONS FOR MY GUNTECHER PLZ?!

edit: lawl post 3333

Doesn't the Storm drop in one of the new missions, or something?

Zorafim
Jul 10, 2007, 02:54 PM
On 2007-07-10 04:02, Shiroryuu wrote:
How is the Kan Yu femenine?



It's not an ugly chunk of low quality photon soup, like the other swords. While women are stuck with the formless Huge Cutter, you men can enjoy the beauty of the Kan Yu.



By the way, I still want to know what S ranks the new missions have >.>

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Para
Jul 10, 2007, 03:03 PM
On 2007-07-10 04:04, Allison_W wrote:

On 2007-07-09 19:00, Para wrote:
Could I like... GET SOME FREAKING S RANK WEAPONS FOR MY GUNTECHER PLZ?!

edit: lawl post 3333

Doesn't the Storm drop in one of the new missions, or something?

stormline you mean? Yeah well being newman guntecher... LACKING DFP! XD

Neith
Jul 10, 2007, 03:13 PM
No, Storm (11* Handgun). Drops in Ragan Boss boxes in Overlord S2.

A2K
Jul 10, 2007, 03:15 PM
On 2007-07-10 13:13, UrikoBB3 wrote:
No, Storm (11* Handgun). Drops in Ragan Boss boxes in Overlord S2.

Eh? Did they skip the Viper?

Soukosa
Jul 10, 2007, 04:08 PM
On 2007-07-10 12:54, Zorafim wrote:
By the way, I still want to know what S ranks the new missions have >.>

Go here (http://psu.amesani.org/project/mission/list.php?type=1), click on the mission, go to the S2 rank, and look at the bottom.



On 2007-07-10 13:15, A2K wrote:
Eh? Did they skip the Viper?

Boss boxes of these S2 missions all drop at least two 11* weapons. Viper comes from Lv 10x Sendillian which isn't gonna show up til later on since they have to release HIVE last.

Golto
Jul 10, 2007, 04:45 PM
Sounomi, do Grinna Bete S appear as normal spawns in the Magas Maggahna co-op mission? Or was I told incorrectly?

Para
Jul 10, 2007, 04:55 PM
On 2007-07-10 14:08, Sounomi wrote:

On 2007-07-10 12:54, Zorafim wrote:
By the way, I still want to know what S ranks the new missions have >.>

Go here (http://psu.amesani.org/project/mission/list.php?type=1), click on the mission, go to the S2 rank, and look at the bottom.



On 2007-07-10 13:15, A2K wrote:
Eh? Did they skip the Viper?

Boss boxes of these S2 missions all drop at least two 11* weapons. Viper comes from Lv 10x Sendillian which isn't gonna show up til later on since they have to release HIVE last.

Oh.. but I dont give a flying **** about handguns... Im talking about twin handguns and xbows x_x

Before the new update hits, im gonna throw a few armours in the synth... some nice ground and fire armour

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Zorafim
Jul 10, 2007, 05:58 PM
I'm quite confident that the only reason handgun was introduced into the game was so that fortefighters can have a ranged weapon. If this is the case, S rank handguns are now useless.

Thank you for that website, by the way. I'll have fun learning what each mission can give me.



Wow, I think I may enjoy Moonlight Beast. I can get both my 10* claws there, and even the chance to get my 11* claw (I'll be happy with the 10*, truthfully). I'll need my fists beforehand, but I do believe I'll have fun there.

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Mayu
Jul 10, 2007, 05:59 PM
Huge cutter http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif Now!

Zorafim
Jul 10, 2007, 06:33 PM
All yours, Rena.

pokes a random mugunruk

Niloklives
Jul 10, 2007, 07:24 PM
S rank weapon of any type...NOW!!

Mayu
Jul 10, 2007, 07:26 PM
Nu

ALL MINE

Niloklives
Jul 10, 2007, 07:32 PM
I want one before I die...V_V one will be mine or you get a GOOD hug!! >=)

Soukosa
Jul 10, 2007, 08:39 PM
On 2007-07-10 14:45, Golto wrote:
Sounomi, do Grinna Bete S appear as normal spawns in the Magas Maggahna co-op mission? Or was I told incorrectly?

From what was passed down to me through some reliable sources, it doesn't appear to be a common spawn since the JP player has never seen one there.

Golto
Jul 10, 2007, 08:41 PM
Ok thanks that means no easy Grinna Bete S decos http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

Zorafim
Jul 11, 2007, 02:30 AM
Erm, I just noticed something. Aren't we getting these this friday? And doesn't that fall on the thirteenth?

Oh damn