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GoDz
Jul 23, 2007, 04:19 PM
is this thing hacked or sumhin i did 9 rappy runs and all i got was a goldania!!!what the.....

Mayu
Jul 23, 2007, 04:24 PM
no

Hucast-Kireek
Jul 23, 2007, 05:21 PM
Where is this thing at anywho? Overlord?

Dj_SkyEpic
Jul 23, 2007, 05:24 PM
On 2007-07-23 15:21, Hucast-Kireek wrote:
Where is this thing at anywho? Overlord?


Orgdus rare miniboss drop.

Sleeping Warriors S2

Nobo
Jul 23, 2007, 05:27 PM
On 2007-07-23 14:19, GoDz wrote:
is this thing hacked or sumhin i did 9 rappy runs and all i got was a goldania!!!what the.....


no SEGA just wants them to be like giga/skill pp saves. Really hard to get! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_beer.gif

JAFO22000
Jul 23, 2007, 05:35 PM
Yes, you didn't get one so it must be hacked....

McLaughlin
Jul 23, 2007, 05:39 PM
On 2007-07-23 15:35, JAFO22000 wrote:
Yes, you didn't get one so it must be hacked....



Well duh. Rares are guarant-...

Damn.

Hucast-Kireek
Jul 23, 2007, 05:45 PM
I feel PSU scares away players as much as it attracts them.

DaRkWoLf30
Jul 23, 2007, 05:52 PM
Rares are suppose to be RARE.

McLaughlin
Jul 23, 2007, 06:20 PM
On 2007-07-23 15:52, DaRkWoLf30 wrote:
Rares are suppose to be RARE.



That's ludicrous.

Hucast-Kireek
Jul 23, 2007, 06:27 PM
Well in PSO, rare weapons were rare but not impossible unlike PSU.




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McLaughlin
Jul 23, 2007, 06:38 PM
On 2007-07-23 16:27, Hucast-Kireek wrote:
Well in PSO, rare weapons were rare but not impossible unlike PSU.




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Tell that to the three months of my life I threw away getting an Evil Curst. Or my Sealed J Sword, Guld Milla or NUG Bazooka. Or my Yasminkov 9000M, or my Heaven's Punisher.


What an ignorant thing to say.



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BloodDragoon
Jul 23, 2007, 06:45 PM
On 2007-07-23 16:27, Hucast-Kireek wrote:
Well in PSO, rare weapons were rare but not impossible unlike PSU.




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Personally find and collect every rare item drop from PSO like I did on the GC and say that...

McLaughlin
Jul 23, 2007, 06:58 PM
On 2007-07-23 16:45, BloodDragoon wrote:

On 2007-07-23 16:27, Hucast-Kireek wrote:
Well in PSO, rare weapons were rare but not impossible unlike PSU.




<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Hucast-Kireek on 2007-07-23 16:27 ]</font>


Personally find and collect every rare item drop from PSO like I did on the GC and say that...



*High fives*

I did that.

DikkyRay
Jul 23, 2007, 07:00 PM
On 2007-07-23 16:58, Obsidian_Knight wrote:

On 2007-07-23 16:45, BloodDragoon wrote:

On 2007-07-23 16:27, Hucast-Kireek wrote:
Well in PSO, rare weapons were rare but not impossible unlike PSU.




<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Hucast-Kireek on 2007-07-23 16:27 ]</font>


Personally find and collect every rare item drop from PSO like I did on the GC and say that...



*High fives*

I did that.

i hate you all could never get like, 3 weps...

Hucast-Kireek
Jul 23, 2007, 07:01 PM
Dude, You have to make the dam things in PSU with a chance of failing! in PSO they fell on the floor already made!

-Rune-
Jul 23, 2007, 07:05 PM
IF they fell... <.< I think the percents for things were just as low on PSO as psu. Yeah they have a chance of breaking, but also you have a chance of getting a "one of a kind" high % style weapon too.

And to OP, relax I wish I coulda said the same thing about looking for my 1975 agito on Pinkal in pso. I swear I fought 60+ rappies and it didn't drop... actually ~_~ it didn't drop. *rolls up sleeves* gonna kick some rappy arse. >.<

McLaughlin
Jul 23, 2007, 07:11 PM
On 2007-07-23 17:01, Hucast-Kireek wrote:
Dude, You have to make the dam things in PSU with a chance of failing! in PSO they fell on the floor already made!



Well, an 85% chance of success is far worse than a one in 200,000 chance to see the fucking thing.

Give me a break.

DikkyRay
Jul 23, 2007, 07:12 PM
why are we arguing over how S ranks drop?
We should be arguing why there arent any super cool weapons in PSU like there were in PSO that are actually GOOD

Hucast-Kireek
Jul 23, 2007, 07:14 PM
Not to mention the crazy hackers, and the Mags, and the telepipes...I am not dumb, I know my PSO well and you had more unique weapons in less time than in PSU. Yes PSO had difficult ones to get but hey! by that time you already had lots of stuff and money.


why are we arguing over how S ranks drop?
We should be arguing why there arent any super cool weapons in PSU like there were in PSO that are actually GOOD

Good you mention it, thats another thing, PSO weapons were in a sense unique and very clever, I hope expansion fixes all this.


Well, an 85% chance of success is far worse than a one in 200,000 chance to see the fucking thing.

Give me a break

Such hostility! you talk as if all weapons were 200,000 chance! you give me a break.

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McLaughlin
Jul 23, 2007, 07:39 PM
Any of the decent ones were. But for comparison's sake:

Huge Cutter is infinitely easier to get than a Heaven's Punisher from a Hildetorr, or a Lavis Cannon from a Pouilly Slime, or a Psycho Wand from a Mill Lilly.

Give. Me. A break.

Deja
Jul 23, 2007, 07:56 PM
These are 10*'s dropping though now, and they are like 12*'s on PSO, drop wise. Chain Sawd, you'd get like 2 to 3 in about 30 addicted food runs. That was effective, cool looking, and useful. I've done over 60 RB runs and only seen one 10* drop, plus the RB runs take 2x longer to complete.

But, I'll still play lol, dam you psu

Soukosa
Jul 23, 2007, 08:17 PM
The biggest difference between PSO and PSU is that missions on PSU have less overall enemies compared to quests on PSO. This is due to enemies having higher HP in order to make it so they last longer, allowing more people to get hits in.

Another big issue is that the same number of stars doesn't mean the same thing as it did on PSO. So you can't really compare a 10* here to a 10* on PSO, which wasn't entirely consistant with the rarity of things with the same number of stars either >.>

You also need to take into account bad luck with getting rares and the fact that as the level caps go up, things will be easier to kill. They likely designed the rates to be decent for later on and if it's still too high then, they can lower it. It's better to have something a bit too rare than not rare enough when things need adjustments.

Gryffin
Jul 23, 2007, 08:43 PM
Huge Cutter



IS HUEG!!!!!!1111111!!!!1111!!!1 11!!!111 11 1!! 1 1!!!!OnE1!1!!ElevenTymillION1!!1!!!!!!

Hucast-Kireek
Jul 23, 2007, 09:03 PM
My guess is that they will keep making it easier look at what happened in the last update, maybe in the future Srank 10* weps will be a joke.

Skorn
Jul 23, 2007, 09:06 PM
I got one the day after 3 star luck ended.

Dj_SkyEpic
Jul 23, 2007, 09:15 PM
Huge Cutter is more possible than Kan Yu.

Reason being is that it drops from A rare mob spawn with higher drop rates compared to Kan Yu which Drops from De Ragan S2's boss box.

If you're complaining about Huge Cutter... I wonder how it will be if you were to actually focused on trying for Kan Yu or Psychowand (like me.)

The drop rates are harsh, but you just got to suck it up and try your best.

Edit: Btw. I'm in search of Psychowand but I run for rappies in hopes of also getting Huge Cutter ( better odds I'll get those than Psychowand.)

I've seen 3 rappy spawns. I got a total of 9 Rappy Feathers, and 3 goldania.

I busy myself with leveling technics. All my technics are at 30 besides Megid and Giresta. I'm working on megid right now which is at 17.

Basically, just busy yourself with something other than the main focus so that you can get through hunting without going Ape/Beserk.

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RegulusHikari
Jul 23, 2007, 09:26 PM
On 2007-07-23 18:17, Sounomi wrote:
The biggest difference between PSO and PSU is that missions on PSU have less overall enemies compared to quests on PSO. This is due to enemies having higher HP in order to make it so they last longer, allowing more people to get hits in.

Another big issue is that the same number of stars doesn't mean the same thing as it did on PSO. So you can't really compare a 10* here to a 10* on PSO, which wasn't entirely consistant with the rarity of things with the same number of stars either >.>

You also need to take into account bad luck with getting rares and the fact that as the level caps go up, things will be easier to kill. They likely designed the rates to be decent for later on and if it's still too high then, they can lower it. It's better to have something a bit too rare than not rare enough when things need adjustments.



Basically summed up everything I was going to say.

In PSO, you could mow down mobs of Vulmer or Gilchichs in seconds once you were decently leveled. In PSU, Vandas have like... 40,000 HP, thus making them roughly 12 times harder to kill than mobs in PSO. >.>;

Think of this as a Very Hard mode. Think of all the hard to get rares on VH that were uber easy to get in Ult. Think of Fami Cup as our Ultimate mode, in which every 10* weapon will become a DB Saber, Varista, or Gae Blog and will simply become PM food. <.<;

Honestly, the 10*s seem somewhere in the 1/500-1000 range, it's just there's a much smaller kill-time ratio.

GoDz
Jul 27, 2007, 10:15 PM
On 2007-07-23 15:35, JAFO22000 wrote:
Yes, you didn't get one so it must be hacked....


well other ppl do like 1 run and find it...i do 9..9!!! and not even a svaltus edge drops!!!

Mayu
Jul 27, 2007, 10:16 PM
Simple luck

Simple find -.-

Para
Jul 27, 2007, 10:18 PM
On 2007-07-27 20:15, GoDz wrote:

On 2007-07-23 15:35, JAFO22000 wrote:
Yes, you didn't get one so it must be hacked....


well other ppl do like 1 run and find it...i do 9..9!!! and not even a svaltus edge drops!!!

just because you found 9 doesn't mean its guarenteed. I mean its possible that you just got some piss *** luck.

HaydenX
Jul 27, 2007, 10:25 PM
I know I'm a low lvl. so I can't attest to an S rank...but I've been doing...well over a thousand runs of Dark satellite C looking for a black heart. I've seen 16 darbelans...no black heart.

I've completed Mizuraki defense 11 times solo with vulcaline as my highest drop (not so much as a falgohoh).

I just bought PSO ver. 2 for the DC (it was cheap). with a lvl. 10 char. I already have 11,000 meseta and weapons that aren't underpowered. Damn PSO is too easy (except for the damn hildebears).

I just think that they should increase the general drop rate. Maybe increase the chances of getting any wep/armor/board drop from monsters by 5%.

Just a thought http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Dragwind
Jul 27, 2007, 11:39 PM
Well, I found one and synthed it. I must be a haxx0r. >_>

pikachief
Jul 27, 2007, 11:44 PM
On 2007-07-27 21:39, DRAGOUSCHRIS wrote:
Well, I found one and synthed it. I must be a haxx0r. >_>



NO U DIDNT! S RANKS ARE MYTHS!!