Is Grants good against anything?

[TeamPhalanx]

Maybe it's because I use a FOnewearl, but I can't seem to find even ONE enemy that Grants is useful against. More often than not, it does less than half the damage of one of my basic techs.

The tech costs (BY FAR) the most TP in the game... it has to be good against something, doesn't it?

[ChokingVictim]

hmmm, goes thru darvants like silly putty

[LollipopLolita]

http://www.pso-world.com/sections.php?op=listarticles&secid=45

another thing would be to look at the beastiary and see which enemies have low elt

[CajunSamurai]

Yeah, it works extraordinarily well against Dark/Death Gunners and Hildelts to name a few... My FO can barely do jack to a Hildelt unless he uses Grants, which knocks off around 300-400+ (don't remember). It's really nice as a long range attack spell for those damn pesky gunners, too.

[DemiDeviMatt]

the robot boss of mines, the 1st form, the one thingy that hangs from the middle of the ceiling

[Maelkith]

"belra no like grants. why hit slow belra with big bang? i paralize you make samich"


as a fonewearl your basic attacks have a bonus. you are the master of barta, zonde, and foie. i dont believe you have a bonus to grants like the fomarl does.


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[TeamPhalanx]

I know about the bestiary and the bonuses...

I haven't faced Hildelts yet, but so far using basic techs is superior to grants, both in terms of rate of fire and damage.

Vol Opt's first form is vulnerable to foie, and you can fire of 3 of them in the time it takes to cast 1 grants.

Dark Falz's 1st form seems to be most vulnerable to zonde, while the second fears barta - Don't know about the 3rd.

Against Belra, I do more damage with zonde than Grants. Same goes for gunners and barta.

Isn't there at least one enemy that's really weak against grants and not other techs?

[CorneliusPower]

On 2002-12-22 20:51, CajunSamurai wrote:
Yeah, it works extraordinarily well against Dark/Death Gunners and Hildelts to name a few... My FO can barely do jack to a Hildelt unless he uses Grants, which knocks off around 300-400+ (don't remember). It's really nice as a long range attack spell for those damn pesky gunners, too.

Once again you make plenty of sense!! The only way I can OWN a HILDELT is with my Grants, I can freeze them with minimal damage, but if I wanna kill them i must use my Grants! 400-550 damage as of this writing. It's the only way to get God/Battle too, if you wanna find it, Redria btw. heh heh, peace.

[DirewolfX]

I find it's pretty good against Mil Lillies in the temple online.

And of course, it's the ONLY way to kill Hidelts.

[Maelkith]

third form falz is weak against foie.

[Ophelia]

You might also want to consider investing in a Caduceus for some creamy Grants boosting goodness.

[CajunSamurai]

On 2002-12-23 19:21, Ophelia wrote:
You might also want to consider investing in a Caduceus for some creamy Grants boosting goodness.

Huh, does it boost Grants? I'd like me one of them suckers, then!
FOmarls get 1.5x damage with Grants... and I BELIEVE FOmars get 1.3x damage. Pretty sweet bonus. I luvs me TEH grants!
The other night I fought Ultimate DF online, and did 899 damage to the spinny things with Grants!!! Ice spells did maybe 200 at best, so I guess that those spinnies are those monsters that're weak against Grants and Grants alone. Everyone else was scurrying around trying to get hits on these things while I barely had to aim, just keeping my eye on the radar and launching Grants after Grants, destroying spinny after spinny.

And thanks Cornelius, I try not to be full of hot air, whenever possible. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

[AzureBlaze]

I do know of one thing that hasn't been mentioned yet: and that is Gillchiches. (not a Gillchick)

On DC PSO, they disliked foie, but HATED grants. I believe it works the same way here, because while I have seen FOs use it, I do not yet have any char who can cast it and see. There is, of course, the downside, which is: there are usually tons of the suckers, grants is slow, they are not, and it takes loads of TP. Grants seems to prove more then handy at getting rid of straggler Gillchiches though.

[ChokingVictim]

grants also gets amazing range and the auto target can be very useful...but also preblematic in areas

[Sunaj]

Yeah, they mentioned all of the enemies I think. From my v.1/2 experience, Grants was always tricky to use with it's slow casting cost, and expensiveness. Do keep in mind that as a fonewearl your bonus means your better off casting the simple spells, and that Grants at any level is gonna be rather slow, but it gets faster at higher levels making it a lot more viable against Gunners or Belra.

[Tartare]

my FOmar can really devastate some enemies with grants at lv5. most of my basic attack techs are twice that level or more, and one grants can usually do more damage (if not kill them) than the 3 foie/zonde/barta it would take to kill those grants-weak enemies, and i manage to save a few TP.

it's also what i used against the first form of dark falz (3 heads), and i used barta on the second.

of course, i'm pretty low level so i doubt my input matters a whole lot... but even at a low level, where one lv5 grants is about 1/10 of my total TP, it's useful.