Run Time Soloing

[Pulpy]

So i prefer to solo and I've been wondering how long it takes people to solo the new S2 missions. I heard fortegunners can do S2 missions in a half hour so I level mine and see that my fortetecher is faster until the boss fight where my gunner in better. Rifles and grenade launchers are faster than bows and diga. I've been doing sleeping warriors lately and I mostly finish runs in about 40 minutes if i want the S. (damn svaltus) So tell me what missions you solo, what class/race you use and how long your runs are.

Thanks.

[Umberger]

Fortetecher Newearl takes me around 50-55 minutes to finish Sleeping Warriors S2. I can get to block 4 in around 40-45 minutes depending on the map, but the Svaltus take a while to kill.

[beatrixkiddo]

I solo Eastern Peril A as a 74/10 CAST Fortefighter in 7 minutes, depending on how annoying Onmagoug is. KAPOW!

[Aralia]

~37 mins for Plains Overlord s2 as my cast fG.
~20 mins for Grove of Fanatics s2 as cast fG.

~45-50 mins for Plains Overlord s2 as my Newearl fT.
~ "an unholy #" for Grove of Fanatics s2 as Newearl fT. >.>

I dunno for my beast melee char.. haven't played her much since the update with POs2 in it. >.>
But yeah, these 2 missions are the only things I've solo'd in the past 3 weeks. =D NOTHING good dropped so far...

[ryvius]

A lot of what goes into a decent time is how you play obviously.. I would say that, yes, fortegunner is pretty much the most versatile choice.

Times I know offhand for my Cast fG are 18-22 mins on PO S2 and 30-32 on Onma S2. I've done 11-13 on Eastern peril S2 when getting a nice Ageeta/gohmon map - I have a deep hatred for ollaka.. not that they're hard, they're just stupid lol

[Mayu]

Distova and Ollaka will <.< Rip your time :_;

~cries~

well imo lol

<.< All they do is RUN AROUND,they don't even hurt <.<

Just annoying ;p


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[ryvius]

I know right.. and when the ollaka have a leader they do that rotating defense shield thing and then all charge out at you >_>

They're so retarded :[

I'm really hoping ST gets the AI on a few choice mobs together with aoi >_> /offtopic

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[HandOfThornz]

I solo lots too!

I'm a human lvl90 fortegunner lvl10

Plains overlord S takes 20 mins
Lab recovery S2 takes 35mins
Demons Above S takes 35mins
Moatoob takes too long to run S/S2 missions with a gunner

[Aka]

On 2007-08-04 00:35, Ryuugu-Rena wrote:
Distova and Ollaka will <.< Rip your time :_;

~cries~

well imo lol

<.< All they do is RUN AROUND,they don't even hurt <.<

Just annoying ;p



I find the extremely annoying for the same reason ;p
I tend to avoid the Ollaka maps when I do EP as they can add 3-5 mins compared to Ageeta maps.

Let's see, the missions I've soloed and times are...

Plains Overlord S2, Newman fT 30mins
Demons Above S2, Human FG 45mins
Eastern Peril S2, Human FG 14mins (Mob skipping ftw)
Grove of Fanatics S2, Cast fG 35mins
Rainbow Beast S2, Cast fG 55mins

All times are estimates from what I can remember, except EP.

[Tekershee]

On 2007-08-03 23:37, Umberger wrote:
Fortetecher Newearl takes me around 50-55 minutes to finish Sleeping Warriors S2. I can get to block 4 in around 40-45 minutes depending on the map, but the Svaltus take a while to kill.



Nah, they can do it in about 30 minutes really.

[360NyTeMaRe]

Lv84 CAST Fortegunner (10)

Mad Beasts S2 / 1:44 LOL

[jayster]

Lv 88 Beast fortegunner(10)

plains overlord S2: 35-40mins

I dont have any bullets over 21 yet though...


and is GoF S2 really that easy as a fortegunner to beat? How many rifles of killer shot do you usually use? Because in a party of 6, with 4 fortegunners, I usually use about 6-8 rifles for killer shot.

[Arika]

Sleeping warrior S2? 21-24 min, up to the mood about item box ,the map pattern, and how many PM I read during the run.


On 2007-08-03 23:37, Umberger wrote:
Fortetecher Newearl takes me around 50-55 minutes to finish Sleeping Warriors S2. I can get to block 4 in around 40-45 minutes depending on the map, but the Svaltus take a while to kill.



http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif I think my guide can help you !! see my Svaltus guide on walk thought !! it should be in the first page or second page.



(btw, of course, all I mean is S rank clear ,since you can't skip much enemy anyway)

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[Cz]

stating time without any proof is like making up the time.
I can say that i do Groove of Fanatic S2 in 10 min.!!! (not really)

[Starrz]

PO S2 - 80/10 Beast Fortefighter 25 minutes
PO S2 - 83/10 Newman Fortetecher 27 minutes

[Finae]

Eh.............

-Newman F Lvl 90 / 10 Fortetecher
Overlords S, 9-12 min max (9 min best time)
Overlords S2, 13-19 min max (13 min best time)
Sleeping Warriors S2, 19 min or less
Sleeping Warriors S, 15 min or less
Rouge's Shortcut A, 8-10 min max
Crimson Beast S, 20 min

Eh........can't give any more since on many other missions for my FT, I didn't really look at, care about, or was a lower lvl back then. Other times, was lvling technics or bow pas to 30.

-Beast M 90/10 Fortefighter
Demon's Above S2 - 34-45 min (34 min best time)
Eastern Peril S2 - 8-13 min (8 min best time)
Rainbow Beast S2 - 18-23 min (18 min best time)
Moonlight Beast S - 13-20 min (13 min best time)

Eh........can't remember the times for other missions since its been ages since I've done them or I just never gave a damn. When I start hunting for resist units in areas where FT sucks at, I'll start recording times for missions like Falkis S.

My cast holds no record times since my beast can easily beat any of her times.

[Mayu]

On 2007-08-04 10:05, BunnyGirl wrote:
stating time without any proof is like making up the time.
I can say that i do Groove of Fanatic S2 in 10 min.!!! (not really)

Thats so true

-.- How everyone solo right now

and simply screen shot your time

--Don't forget to photoshop



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[HaydenX]

I've been soloing Mad Creatures S for the PA Frags (I need KS). I'm a GT and I'm wondering if becoming a fortegunner will make it faster.

I mainly use rifles for the mission

Would it be faster to do some HSM runs to meet the requirements for fortegunner? I already have a Gur Neda thanks to a trade with my bro.

[relentless]

On 2007-08-04 10:52, Ryuugu-Rena wrote:
Thats so true

-.- How everyone solo right now

and simply screen shot your time

--Don't forget to photoshop


Ryuugu-Rena on 2007-08-04 10:58 ]</font>

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z211/Sekai_photo/psu20070805_003523_001.jpg

I don't have Photoshop =P wanna observe?xD

[Mayu]

AHA! I see PAINT

!!!!

[relentless]

You can change the time with paint?0.o You must show me.Lol

[Mayu]

You so did!

[PJ]

Do so many people really check their times after runs?

Geez, self esteem issues all around.

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[360NyTeMaRe]

Ooh ooh I'm the only person who can solo Train Rescue C in 3 minutes! ROFL

[Jakosifer]

Demons Above S2 - 59 Minutes (;;>_>..Twin Darking Ollakas can take time sometimes)
Plains Overlord S2 - 39 Minutes (Really 40 when I abandoned but meh, 40 is an ugly number)
Mad Beasts S2 - 1:10 (Gol Dovas = Burn G spam = Needed run backs)

[360NyTeMaRe]

Demons Above S2 - About 55 minutes
Plains Overlord S2 - 39 minutes
Mad Beasts S2 - 1:44 minutes LOL

-These times would be faster if I had the proper equipment I required. :/

[WOOD7770]

I wonder how many people are going to have the courage to actually post a screenshot of the bogus times listed? Now way in F'in heck did someone do P.O. S2 in 18 mins, or Demons. My best time on P.O is 49 minutes with my cast F.G. I dont want to hear this garbage about "I just used kill shot for everything" Powered up Go-vahra at level 100 are vitually impossible to status effect and that king heals about every 8-10 seconds. The Boss battle takes me 6-9 minutes with grenades and a rifle depending on how airborne he is.
No flames please! Just do your talking with a screenshot of your "S" rank S2 in 20 mins!

[Pulpy]

On 2007-08-05 10:44, WOOD7770 wrote:
I wonder how many people are going to have the courage to actually post a screenshot of the bogus times listed? Now way in F'in heck did someone do P.O. S2 in 18 mins, or Demons. My best time on P.O is 49 minutes with my cast F.G. I dont want to hear this garbage about "I just used kill shot for everything" Powered up Go-vahra at level 100 are vitually impossible to status effect and that king heals about every 8-10 seconds. The Boss battle takes me 6-9 minutes with grenades and a rifle depending on how airborne he is.
No flames please! Just do your talking with a screenshot of your "S" rank S2 in 20 mins!



Well my best P.O. S2 run on my techer is 28 minutes. I use the corners and switch between radiga and dambarta. 49 minutes sounds pretty slow for a cast fg. Are you using your shotgun I'm sure that would speed up your run time significantly. As far as the buffed go-varha I can see how that would slow you down. But using your rifle on the king would keep him from healing.

And if people want to be lame and lie about run times who really cares? Calm down.

[360NyTeMaRe]

Okay everyone I'll make a video right now of me soloing Plains Overlord S2 with nothing but some rifles and two machineguns, using the PROPER element weapons, including:

Frozen Shot Lv30
Grav Shot Lv27
Frozen Fury Lv30
Grav Fury Lv21

[nooblet]

if i like to solo a lot, would fortegunner be a better choice than figgunner?

[Shanata]

My friend asked me to make an account here and post these (She Solo only bringing 1 Npc her Pm)

GoF S2 (note she only just got Killer shot 11 and decided to try it out)
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u238/eleina01/soloGof.jpg

DT S2
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u238/eleina01/DTspeed.jpg

Demons Above S2 (third time she has ran this since that rebalance thingy and first time in solo)
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u238/eleina01/onmata.jpg

Sleeping warriors S2
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u238/eleina01/13minsoloSW.jpg

She doesn't have pics of any other time but said she did
Plains overlord S2 in 20 minutes

[ryvius]

Well, you're in luck.. this screen is the first run I did after the last update.

http://www.burgerclan.com/yeti/pos2.jpg

Weapons used on normal enemies are pretty much all crossbows, correct elements and a lot of Zagenga. I don't remember if I did any enemy skipping, but I usually do if it's polties I can skip.

Feel free to not believe I was soloing or whatever, that's your problem. I'm just telling you it's possible and it depends on how you play..

[360NyTeMaRe]

I think everyone should post pictures of the Mission Results window so that we can see how fast you can get an S on it. LOL

I get an S on Plains Overlord S2 in 39 minutes. Probably about to be faster.

[ryvius]

Well.. i'm bored enough so I played your game

http://i13.tinypic.com/5yrmwz6.jpg
http://i10.tinypic.com/4pma5up.jpg

Now let's hope this doesn't degenerate further.. into that whole elitist argument thing and all >_>

[pikachief]

Cast FG lvl 80 Dulk Fakis S in 1 h 45 min http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Pulpy]

Sleeping warriors in 13 minutes soloing? Hard to believe even with the picture. Would of been easy to just have friends run you to the end of each mission and leave. Click, "hey guys look how fast I am!" Yeah testing people's gullability with that one.

[360NyTeMaRe]

With mediocre weapons I've got (Since I traded them all in to buy my Fortefighter some weapons). Also no grenade launcher on the boss.

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q277/Nytemare6789/PlainsOverlordS22.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q277/Nytemare6789/PlainsOverlordS2.jpg

I also didn't use any Killer Shot.

Video is uploading.

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[Shanata]

On 2007-08-05 14:06, Pulpy wrote:
Sleeping warriors in 13 minutes soloing? Hard to believe even with the picture. Would of been easy to just have friends run you to the end of each mission and leave. Click, "hey guys look how fast I am!" Yeah testing people's gullability with that one.



My friend told me that time would have beeen put into doubt well she told me to just say that she has alot of connection lag <.<. believe it or not it's true that she did do SW S2 in 13 minutes http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[majorgamer55]

i can solo de ragan s2 in less then 20 minutes using a force or my ranger, DG s2 i soloed in 20-30 mins with kiler shot
havent tried sleeping warriors...

[360NyTeMaRe]

On 2007-08-05 14:00, ryvius wrote:
Well.. i'm bored enough so I played your game

http://i13.tinypic.com/5yrmwz6.jpg
http://i10.tinypic.com/4pma5up.jpg

Now let's hope this doesn't degenerate further.. into that whole elitist argument thing and all >_>



Who knows that you didn't get party help and just boot everyone at the end...?

[360NyTeMaRe]

I seem to be the only one who's gonna provide legitimate proof of my time. :/

Video's still uploading, 3 parts
Block1-Block2 Start
Block2-Block3 Start
Block3-Boss Fight End

[360NyTeMaRe]

Screw it it just takes too damn long to edit and upload all these videos (36 minutes)

so just deal with the Block 1 video and the pictures I provided. I think those are good enough proof.

[ryvius]

Why would I need to lie about this? This game isn't exactly competitive on it's base level and I don't know any of you to need to make myself sound almighty..

http://i15.tinypic.com/6gsljrr.jpg
The best I can do is a screen i took vs. ragan that same run. If you want to believe it was taken during a different run or i "booted everyone" before Ragan, that's your call, but I stress again that I really wouldn't waste my time with fake soloing shots on a forum

[360NyTeMaRe]

That still doesn't prove anything because it still doesn't show that you didn't just boot everyone after they did some damage, it also doesn't show the time.

Also, you have PM's with you. I never bring PM's on solo.

[360NyTeMaRe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mymIc5RhJ10

[ryvius]

Wow, you're way too skeptical now. And what reason is there to not bring NPCs? It doesn't make it any less "solo".. if you're just trying to be more hardcore or something, it's not working. I said I didn't want to argue about this, but you're just being far too annoying.

I'm not going to waste any more time here, because I don't even know if I can run this game while recording with fraps, nor do I have fraps on my system right now. Later :/

[360NyTeMaRe]

Don't you mean "CRAPS"?

Anyway, I'm not trying to be more hardcore, but missions are obviously faster with NPCs since the enemies attack NPC's instead of you.

[ryvius]

Well.. yeah, that's the point lol

Why spend more time on something as boring as soloing?

[Eureka]

Congratulations ryvious.

Obviously the last few posts have been made to try and sour your accomplishment. Good job taking out that dragon without assistance from other players.

[360NyTeMaRe]

Kissass.

It's still a possibilty that I'm right.

[Eureka]

On 2007-08-05 16:50, 360NyTeMaRe wrote:
Kissass.



Point isn't about kissing anyone's ass. Point is ryvious posted pics of the time it took to complete the mission, but you have this notion that he (or she, sorry don't really know) needs to post addition proof...via video.

When really its not his problem you question how he got the job done.


It's still a possibilty that I'm right.

And its a possibility that you are completely wrong. That's the thing about "what ifs," there is always the chance you fall on the other side.

[360NyTeMaRe]

Exactly, "what if" she's right then?

Quit acting like you rule everything.

50% chance she's right
50% chance she's wrong

[pikachief]

On 2007-08-05 16:17, 360NyTeMaRe wrote:
That still doesn't prove anything because it still doesn't show that you didn't just boot everyone after they did some damage, it also doesn't show the time.

Also, you have PM's with you. I never bring PM's on solo.



yea i never bring my PMs while soloing cuz it ruins the S rank for dulk fakis S! >:{

[360NyTeMaRe]

Also I'd like to see ANYONE solo with a PM and still get an S

[360NyTeMaRe]

On 2007-08-05 15:56, ryvius wrote:
Why would I need to lie about this? This game isn't exactly competitive on it's base level and I don't know any of you to need to make myself sound almighty..

http://i15.tinypic.com/6gsljrr.jpg
The best I can do is a screen i took vs. ragan that same run. If you want to believe it was taken during a different run or i "booted everyone" before Ragan, that's your call, but I stress again that I really wouldn't waste my time with fake soloing shots on a forum





I notice how Laia's DEAD meaning you didn't get an S.

[Eureka]

On 2007-08-05 17:02, 360NyTeMaRe wrote:

Quit acting like you rule everything.



I don't rule anything. Don't try to flame me for agreeing with ryvious stance on the situation.

And as far as carrying a PM with you, I have got S rank doing Unsafe Passage S2 while with my PM. It is possible if you take the time to cover your PM, since it is covering you.

[pikachief]

On 2007-08-05 17:14, 360NyTeMaRe wrote:

On 2007-08-05 15:56, ryvius wrote:
Why would I need to lie about this? This game isn't exactly competitive on it's base level and I don't know any of you to need to make myself sound almighty..

http://i15.tinypic.com/6gsljrr.jpg
The best I can do is a screen i took vs. ragan that same run. If you want to believe it was taken during a different run or i "booted everyone" before Ragan, that's your call, but I stress again that I really wouldn't waste my time with fake soloing shots on a forum





I notice how Laia's DEAD meaning you didn't get an S.



i noticed how its on PC and u can revive her to keep the S http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[360NyTeMaRe]

Oh yeah forgot about that but us 360 players don't have that luxury, but anyway you remind me that S2 monsters are slower on PC, so it must be a lot easier on PC.

[ryvius]

What the hell are you talking about? You're just grasping now.. nothing is easier. I'm not even going to waste time figuring how to play without immense slowdown while running fraps now, cause you're just crazy.

Have fun continuing your little witch hunt

[360NyTeMaRe]

It's not a witch hunt, and I'm simply stating that you have NO legitimate proof which assures us 100% that you can do it in 18 minutes.

[Mayu]

On 2007-08-05 13:18, Shanata wrote:
My friend asked me to make an account here and post these (She Solo only bringing 1 Npc her Pm)


Sleeping warriors S2
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u238/eleina01/13minsoloSW.jpg



Megiverse that is all <3

[pikachief]

On 2007-08-05 17:44, 360NyTeMaRe wrote:
It's not a witch hunt, and I'm simply stating that you have NO legitimate proof which assures us 100% that you can do it in 18 minutes.



i knwo a cast named vickie who can do dulk fakis S with an S ranking in 45 min >:(

[pikachief]

On 2007-08-05 17:47, Ryuugu-Rena wrote:

On 2007-08-05 13:18, Shanata wrote:
My friend asked me to make an account here and post these (She Solo only bringing 1 Npc her Pm)


Sleeping warriors S2
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u238/eleina01/13minsoloSW.jpg



Megiverse that is all <3



is it really that good? i got tired of lvling it up http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Mayu]

If you do it ''correctly'' all though I can not explain how you do it : )

Due to well it's an exploit that is all

<3

[ryvius]

It is a witch hunt. You have some crazy vendetta against me now because I can't just whip up a video for you on demand. You're just coming up with whatever new idea you have against me, and lo and behold, none of THEM are concrete either.

Let's leave it at this because I have no easy way to record.. even fraps in a tiny window runs slow as molasses. Unless someone has a better solution

[360NyTeMaRe]

On 2007-08-05 17:47, pikachief wrote:

On 2007-08-05 17:44, 360NyTeMaRe wrote:
It's not a witch hunt, and I'm simply stating that you have NO legitimate proof which assures us 100% that you can do it in 18 minutes.



i knwo a cast named vickie who can do dulk fakis S with an S ranking in 45 min >:(



I like Vickie, and she has amazing weapons.

[Xaeris]

ryvius has met his burden of proof by far. If anything, you should be proving right now that you're not going to continue to try to discredit the proof you've been demanding when it's presented.

Anyone with so much of half a bit of foresight could see that if such a video were made, you'd move on to the next step in rationalizing the time. I'm guessing you'd blame it on gear, despite the fact that haxeta doesn't scale nearly as stupidly well with an fG as it does a melee class.

Your insecurity is disgusting. Accept the fact that someone else does your ez-mode class twice, literally, as well and move on.

[pikachief]

On 2007-08-05 17:52, 360NyTeMaRe wrote:

On 2007-08-05 17:47, pikachief wrote:

On 2007-08-05 17:44, 360NyTeMaRe wrote:
It's not a witch hunt, and I'm simply stating that you have NO legitimate proof which assures us 100% that you can do it in 18 minutes.



i knwo a cast named vickie who can do dulk fakis S with an S ranking in 45 min >:(



I like Vickie, and she has amazing weapons.



i used to but her weapons next to me who hasnt seen an S rank or super rare weapon drop before makes me sad and i cant party with her anymore http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

[360NyTeMaRe]

Vickie is the cutest little (loli?) CAST girl. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[biggabertha]

All of these runs are done by Fortegunners, FOrtefighters, Fortetechers and I think I saw a Fighgunner in there somewhere. Are Guntechers, Wartechers and Protransers really that bad for speed solo?

What I'd like to see is someone finish an S2 mission as a Hunter/Ranger/Force. Now that'd be impressive. (Maybe not so much for a Force but Hunter, definitely.)

[RedX]

On 2007-08-05 18:33, biggabertha wrote:
Are Guntechers, Wartechers and Protransers really that bad for speed solo?


Besides WT, they're party classes. WT can't go as fast anyway because fF does the same thing but better.

[Xaeris]

A Guntecher should operate near identically to a Fortegunner in soloing, with the exception of where a grenade launcher is the best bet. As a Wartecher, I do most versions of Eastern Peril S2 in an average of 15-16 minutes. That one map where you can just run right through the last quarter of B1 cuts me down to 12 though.

So I wouldn't say the non-fortes are bad for time. It's just that the missions that people actually *do* solo generally don't require much diversity in skills, so it's the fortes that excel on them.

[jayster]

How can people solo so fast? Please explain, my best time on Plains Overlord S2 with a S rank is like 38 minutes. And I use the argatide buff thing the hole time.

But I'm going to take a picture of my time when I get on!!! wooh lol.

[360NyTeMaRe]

My fastest is 36 minutes, and I think it's impossible to do it in 18 minutes unless you're using Lv21 Killer shot, with Phantoms+Phantom Line (For accuracy purpose) and then you use a Gur Missal+5 (or more) on the dragon with Lv21 Boma Riga (and a Hard / Power Charge).

Thing is, I use Lv30 Frozen Shot, Lv27 Grav Shot during the mission, with a Phantom+3 and Phantom Line, and a Riflic+10 / Falcon+10. I ALSO have a Hard / Power Charge.

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[ryvius]

Rifles are not the highest dps weapon..

I use yak zagenga mostly - at lowish hp and with a SPS that's about 470-500 per bolt on a polty, slightly less on Vahra. On a koltova obviously it's a lot less; their dfp is gruesome. When at full health I have yak riga/diga at 30 and sometimes use megiga to virus koltova or a Virus G if it's a big close group.

My boma riga is 30 and my Gur missal is +6. My frozen shot still isn't over 21 though.. I'm way lazy about leveling rifles D:

Believe me, it's very possible, and I will stand by xbows as the best overall fG weapon.

[360NyTeMaRe]

With Killer Shot, it's not about damage, it's mostly about killing something every 6 shots or so.

If you're using the Crossbow with that photon art, I can understand it going faster, and with the grenade launcher thing.

It sounds POSSIBLE now, but I still think it would be very hard to do it in 18 minutes.

My rifle averages 600 per shot, about 2.5 shots per second. I use virus trap G on groups of vahras, and I use Barada Banga Lv30 on Polties.

Machineguns are the highest DPS of any gun, for a single target, but also the least effective status effects, and they're by far the least ammo-efficient. They do also get the best boost from Hard / Power Charge in terms of DPS.

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[Eureka]

On 2007-08-05 17:53, Xaeris wrote:
ryvius has met his burden of proof by far. If anything, you should be proving right now that you're not going to continue to try to discredit the proof you've been demanding when it's presented.

Anyone with so much of half a bit of foresight could see that if such a video were made, you'd move on to the next step in rationalizing the time. I'm guessing you'd blame it on gear, despite the fact that haxeta doesn't scale nearly as stupidly well with an fG as it does a melee class.

Your insecurity is disgusting. Accept the fact that someone else does your ez-mode class twice, literally, as well and move on.



That statement is made of win.

And as far as video goes. Unless you post a raw, unedited version...it is easy to manipulate the footage to show what you want people to see. And frankly, I am not going to watch 20 mins of video to try and prove someone wrong. That's two minutes I could use...I dunno...running a mission.

[360NyTeMaRe]

"Made of win"?

Nice job butchering the English language, Einstein. The argument is far past over, but good job trying to restart it a couple hours later.

Also, you didn't even look at the video, otherwise you'd realize that it's not even 10 minutes long. Put your shirt back on and back into the corner where you were when I came in here.

EDIT: and you have no room to talk, Eureka, because
1. You don't have a single Lv80 character
2. You couldn't solo this mission in any less than one hour, even if you COULD meet the level requirement.

PS- Trust me, if my Lv56 character (secondary) could meet the level requirement, it'd do the mission a lot faster. Ez-mode THAT Xaeris.

EDIT#2- The raw unedited video is far over 5GB. I'm not going to sit and wait 2 days for that to upload.

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[Gen2000]

I played with Maika quite a few times and I believe the screenshots because his/her playstyle is same one as the other better fGs in the game uses. If you still using Rifle for main damage you got a long ways to go understanding the Max DPS'ing Gunner.

[360NyTeMaRe]

No, I'd love to use my machinegun more, but people don't seem to understand that 10 photon charges and a machinegun wouldn't even take me through Block 1.

[PJ]

On 2007-08-05 17:52, ryvius wrote:
blah

You know, when people usually say they're done with something, that usually means...they're done...

Though, you did own him good, so you might just be posting for shits and giggles now http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

[Mayu]

On 2007-08-05 13:19, ryvius wrote:

http://www.burgerclan.com/yeti/pos2.jpg



hmmm I'll believe you my friend can do the same http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif oh and your a gunner <.<

launchers destroy the stupid dragon in like 2-3 mins <.<

[Sophia]

Crossbow has much higher dps than mechgun, and if you use yak zagenga then its well.. almost double. I havent tried speed running PO S2 but im pretty sure 18 mins is doable, especially with the polty+shagreece map.

[360NyTeMaRe]

Well I don't have any high level crossbow skills. :/

[360NyTeMaRe]

On 2007-08-05 21:49, PJ wrote:

On 2007-08-05 17:52, ryvius wrote:
blah

You know, when people usually say they're done with something, that usually means...they're done...

Though, you did own him good, so you might just be posting for shits and giggles now http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif



She didn't OWN me, she just proved a damn point. The argument IS OVER, so no need to elaborate on any of what she (or I) said, or reopen old wounds.

[PJ]

On 2007-08-05 21:57, 360NyTeMaRe wrote:
BAWWWW

Cut my life into pieces...

[360NyTeMaRe]

On 2007-08-05 22:00, PJ wrote:
like my wrists

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

[Mayu]

Stop you two -.-

- - FF - Human

- - S2 Deregan: 20-30 Depending if the map is DISTOVA
- - RB: 30-40 Depending if the map is OLLAKA

- Current PA'S Used - -

Renkai
Dus Daggas
Second twin claw PA
First claw PA

I don't solo that much

Rena gets boring -.-

[360NyTeMaRe]

LOL sorry I get a bit carried away when I'm laughing so hard xD

[PJ]

Hey, he owned you at your own game, several times.

Did I open those old wounds yet?

[360NyTeMaRe]

It's a figure of speech, jackass.

Nope, you're still losing.

Neither of you could "own" me, EVEN IF YOU HAD ADOPTION PAPERS. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

EDIT: GTFO troll.
http://hosted.thegroupofthey.com/gtfo.jpg

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[PJ]

You must be new to the internet.


Also, I'll remind you, I wasn't even quoting you, and therefor wasn't even talking to you until you went on the defensive for some reason.

Also, nice image...it...sparks something

On 2007-08-05 21:22, 360NyTeMaRe wrote:
"Made of win"?

Nice job butchering the English language, Einstein.


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[PJ]

Assume, ass, u. I was talking about someone else. How rude.

[360NyTeMaRe]

"you owned him" (bad reference to ME)

EDIT: "GTFO" actually stands for something, and it's not bad grammar. "Made of win" isn't even a sentence.

Where do you get "new to the internet" from? Was that part of the joke?

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[360NyTeMaRe]

Why don't you just drop it then? She said "Leave it as it is" meaning - LET'S HAVE A FREAKIN' TEA PARTY!

For Christ's sake, why can't people stop dwelling on the past?

It's done and over with, let's stop pushing this topic down the road past "the point of no return."



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[PJ]

You're quite quick to throw a tantrum when you're, "Winning," you know.

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[360NyTeMaRe]

Pass the sugar!

[PJ]

If your point was to make such a stupid post so I stopped replying, you...almost won.

[360NyTeMaRe]

No, I'm just too busy with whatever else I'm doing, and also this argument isn't getting anywhere.

Now can you pass the sugar?

[PJ]

Mashing refresh isn't something else.

[60Hz]

I play with ryvius/maika all the time - too bad you are not on PC you could join in and witness the strength of the XBOWMANIAC Maika!!!!

On a more disturbing note: i noticed a lot of fG's don't use Xbows as their main weapon (if at all)... strange! very strange!

[Eureka]

After I finish leveling up my three remaining dual bullets, I am going to start leveling my xbow. If anything the ultimate PA is worth my attention next. Xbow is a good weapon, allows for mobility while hitting multiple targets at once.

[360NyTeMaRe]

I used to have it, but deleted it at Lv4 because it took too long to level up (like the rifle doesn't...sarcasm)

Once I get enough PA Fragments I'm going to try it again.

[60Hz]

Well it hits multiple targets or one target three times (which is where the power comes in) its about 300x3 basic att. Funny because both xbows and shotguns level up faster the higher you go (and probably cards too) since they amount of bullets increases - so my advice would be once you level past 10 its a lot easier!

[SolomonGrundy]

I must not be very good at this game. it takes my level 80 fortefighter 40 minutes to beat plains overlord S2. and that's with NPCs and getting a C rank.

I go through 4-6 weapons just killing de regan.

not sure how everyone is doing the runs so fast. I have A rank weapons with medium-low percents (18-24%), and B rank store bought armor.


it takes my foretegunner about an hour to beat Sleeping warriors S2. With NPCs. and with a 34% light midiline. again - C rank. not sure why I suck so bad :-/

[360NyTeMaRe]

...but I bet you don't spend as much money on photon charges or trimates as we do. Keep that in mind. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Shanata]

360NyTeMaRe your funny http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

[Zael]

Posted upon request >_>

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/7453/psu20070806165725003kb0.jpg

[ne1first]

Finae: video an 8minuter EPS2 you're so full of it.

[Shanata]

Plains overlord solo with the beast npcs (she said they are really handy for the boss http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif)

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u238/eleina01/deragansolo.jpg



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[EJ]

best I could do with the 2 npc beast ia about 30-45mins on demon S on my 79/10 m FT;3

[jayster]

Level 89 Beast Fortegunner 10 ( none of my bullets are level 21 yet, all of them are 11 and 15)

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h284/jmido8/solo.jpg

[360NyTeMaRe]

Trust me you're not slow, I can only do it in 36 minutes, so we must be doing something wrong.

Maybe it's since we're on the 360, something's severely different.

[jayster]

That was my personal best solo run =P I'm going to give it another try soon. lol.

[Sophia]

Its cause you dont use zagenga! Its mandatory if you wanna get fast times ^^

[amtalx]

Curse you people...now I have to try it.

[360NyTeMaRe]

I bet if I gathered together some machineguns I could do the mission in 25 minutes

[Arika]

o,o Eleina won the first round
but, I bet cherry will post a new picture soon,
hmm Eleina already got sori/techcharge?



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[amtalx]

On 2007-08-06 08:13, 360NyTeMaRe wrote:
I bet if I gathered together some machineguns I could do the mission in 25 minutes



You'll do better with Xbows.

[360NyTeMaRe]

It would take me a couple weeks to get some crossbows and level Yak Zagenga to Lv30... :/

[60Hz]

Takes about a 2 nights (afk) to level xbows, as i said, they level faster the higher they go...

[amtalx]

Nonsense! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif I got my Zagenga to 21+ in two days. Xbows actually aren't that tough to level. Its only 11-21 that's bad.

[360NyTeMaRe]

I can't afford crossbows right now http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

I'm still attempting to make Phantom rifles (after 13 failures)

[amtalx]

Wow. Seriously? Buy them. They are ridiculously priced, but its better than failing 13 times. Besides, you don't need an arsenal of Phantoms. A good fG won't be using Rifles all that often.

[60Hz]

Make mambas instead!

[jayster]

On 2007-08-06 10:33, amtalx wrote:
Wow. Seriously? Buy them. They are ridiculously priced, but its better than failing 13 times. Besides, you don't need an arsenal of Phantoms. A good fG won't be using Rifles all that often.



I like my arsenal of phantoms http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

This is my pallette:

-phantom
-phantom
-phantom
-shigga bines
-deathmaker
-gur missal

Should I try to swap a phantom for a cugo mamba?

[Eureka]

I'm playing Fortegunner now (got tired of wasted MP since I capped guntecher) and I only use two B rifles. Been using my duals just to get those last bullets leveled, crossbow, and xbow primarily. I only use the rifle to snipe from a long distance, and that's about it.

[360NyTeMaRe]

The only reason I still make rifles is because otherwise, all I have is Riflic+10 and Falcon+10, I'm borrowing a friend's Phantom and Burst... and I also have 2 Falgohoh+4's that I made the other day. I made them for killer shot to work well at the Grove of Fanatics.

I want to make some new deathmakers. I had a perfect pallette before I traded all of NyTeMaRe's good stuff for a Hard / Power Charge.

Here it was:
Phantom+7
Deathmaker+5
Drumline+5
Gur Missal+5
Falcon+10
28% ice Muktrand+1 ( broke on 2nd grind http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_mad.gif )

-Eureka: Did you notice a large boost of ATP switching from Guntecher to Fortegunner?

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[Eureka]

Not really. But I don't pay attention to such things. Prefer mobility over power, which is why I use the weapons I use, even while playing fortegunner. In fact, aside from not being able to use technics; I play both jobs exactly the same.

[360NyTeMaRe]

You should give the grenade launcher a try, because in some situations, it's the most effective weapon.

Mostly only effective on huge enemies such as

Gol Dolva
De Ragan
De Ragnus
Zoal Goug

Even at Lv1, the attacks are very effective, at lv11 they become slightly unfair (for the enemy) and at Lv21, that's just mean...

[jayster]

I got a new crossbow just for soloing http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif Now I'm leveling the bullets. Anyone have suggestions on which elements to get for it. Right now I have ice, light and ground for my crossbow and I'll get the ultimate when I get enough pa frags. But any other elements I should get to help me out soloing?

[360NyTeMaRe]

When I finish these two Phantom boards, I'm going to save some money and make Cubo Mambas. The only way that will happen is if I work my butt off (EVEN MORE) to get some meseta, or sell some of the Phantoms I make, assuming that more than one is successful.

[Arika]

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/6020/psu20070807141221001yw2.jpg
My best time on Groove of Fantastic solo http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

but I m fT tho, I don't want to compare to fG

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[SolomonGrundy]

I understand S ranking an S2 solo, and I understand speed soloing (though I suck at it), what I cannot comprehend is speed S ranking S2 missions solo.

[Jakosifer]

lol theres no way in hell I could solo as fast as most of these screenies are showing. And I'd post pics of my terrible times if I were on PC, but alas, I am not.

[Shanata]

Even with lvl 15 Killer shot Gof can get good times on it http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u238/eleina01/gof17.jpg
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u238/eleina01/GoF16.jpg



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[amtalx]

On 2007-08-06 20:38, jayster wrote:
I got a new crossbow just for soloing http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif Now I'm leveling the bullets. Anyone have suggestions on which elements to get for it. Right now I have ice, light and ground for my crossbow and I'll get the ultimate when I get enough pa frags. But any other elements I should get to help me out soloing?



Dark, Fire, Lighting...which pretty much makes all of them, haha. You'll use them though. Burn->Zagenga chews up the forces in Groves.

Arika-Did you skip creatures in that run, or do I have to start worshipping you?

[Arika]

yes, I skip enemy ,cause I don't need PAfrag.

geez, don't use fG, use Eleina!


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[Arika]

Double posted

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[jayster]

On 2007-08-07 07:02, Shanata wrote:
Even with lvl 15 Killer shot Gof can get good times on it http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u238/eleina01/gof17.jpg
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u238/eleina01/GoF16.jpg



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How do you do it so fast? My killer shot is level 11 and sometimes I waste a rifle or 2 trying to kill one robot. S2 takes me about a hour to solo and S takes me about 30 minutes. I dont understand...

[Aka]

/brag
http://akatora.250free.com/psu20070809_120911_004.jpg

[360NyTeMaRe]

Okay, I just did Plains Overlord S2 in 32 minutes (as opposed to 39) which isn't a big improvement. I had the map with mostly Go Vahras and a lot of buffed ones. I used Yak Zagenga Lv24 throughout the whole map too, and had to go outside to recharge and buy more photon charges. I also ran out of photon charges while fighting the dragon, and had to resort to my rifle instead of Rabol Neda/Gur Neda combo.

My theory is that since S2 monsters move so much slower on PS2/PC, it's a lot easier to strafe and shoot at the same time, but in my case I have to run for a safe spot or keep running back to the point where the enemies disappear, and then run back to make them spawn, shoot them a few times, and repeat. It's impossible to do that mission (at least with that map setup) the exact way I was told that would go fast.

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[JAFO22000]

As it stands now, you cannot compare the PC/PS2 version to the 360 version for various reasons.

[Aka]

I have not noticed any change in monster movement speed in Plain Overlords. Go Vahras still move like they're on crack and Distovas still run like a bullet train.

[360NyTeMaRe]

They're still a lot faster on the Xbox... :/

[danny_o]

Depends on the layout some times.

Rainbow Beast S2 : 1:55 (hours:minutes!!) and one other time 0:43 !!! One layout you MUST kill all the monsters, and another(the one where run to the left to get the key while still in a cave in Block 1) you can skip more than half and blast through.

That was done with a FT using Ensei-sou and cards and Foie and Dam/Ra-barta

[360NyTeMaRe]

I just soloed Lab Recovery S2 in 23 minutes, and I'm uploading the video to YouTube right now.

[Eureka]

...but in my case I have to run for a safe spot or keep running back to the point where the enemies disappear, and then run back to make them spawn, shoot them a few times, and repeat. It's impossible to do that mission (at least with that map setup) the exact way I was told that would go fast.


Why do you have to run back and forth? If you are in the right safe zone you can fire on the enemies without them despawning.

I ran that mission solo all last week and never ran into that problem.

[jayster]

It took me 14 mins to solo Plains overlord S using Yak Zagenga Lv 23 with 3 cugo mambas + 5. Then a Gur missal + 5 on the boss. I dont understand how people solo S2 in 19 mins. I run around with 1 hp and buffed (power buff item) sitting in the safe spots shooting. How am I supposed to do this faster? Right now I can only do S2 in 31 mins (havent tried with yak zagenga yet)

[360NyTeMaRe]

Yeah I know, I take 32 minutes for Overlord S2, but I haven't tried S yet. I was lookin' for Me / Quick the other day and soloed Eastern Peril A in 7 minutes LOL http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Dragwind]

On 2007-08-20 18:20, jayster wrote:
It took me 14 mins to solo Plains overlord S using Yak Zagenga Lv 23 with 3 cugo mambas + 5. Then a Gur missal + 5 on the boss. I dont understand how people solo S2 in 19 mins. I run around with 1 hp and buffed (power buff item) sitting in the safe spots shooting. How am I supposed to do this faster? Right now I can only do S2 in 31 mins (havent tried with yak zagenga yet)



Guess you're not so "elitist" then ay? XD

[Syl]

On 2007-08-20 09:34, 360NyTeMaRe wrote:
They're still a lot faster on the Xbox... :/



Uh, last time I checked, the s2 monsters are still really fast. Unless you've played both versions of the patch, I suggest not making assumptions like this. When you say a lot, it almsot sounds like you're comparing C rank monsters to S rank ones...

[360NyTeMaRe]

No, I've seen a YouTube video of the PC version's S2 missions, they're fast, but noticeably slower than the Xbox 360 version. We haven't gotten the patch that slows down enemies yet.

[Syl]

If yo would be so kind as to maybe post a link to the vid? I wanna see how bad that change is....

[360NyTeMaRe]

I can't find the exact video, and I'm not going to look for it. The name was in japanese so I can't necessarily go searching for it. If you'd be so kind as to just keep in mind that whether it's a huge difference or not, it's still a difference (and advantage) that PC/PS2 players have.

[Dragwind]

The difference doesn't mean a thing if you're not getting hit, or kill them before they get near you.

[360NyTeMaRe]

My point exactly though, you can't kill them before they get to you, especially if they're buffed...and not getting hit is nearly impossible too. Go Vahras jump too damn far.

[360NyTeMaRe]

Allright here's the video of me soloing Lab Recovery S2...

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdBBjvIzQfU
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HO6AcagWqE
Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMecCW8pLDY