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Shiryuu
Aug 9, 2007, 05:01 AM
Gonna be updating this whenever as I get info on it...

Listed in alphabetical order:

Anga Jabroga (Axe) 99 PAF
http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=150739&forum=20&start=0&15#10

Barada Chamga (Shotgun) 25 PAF

Boma Duranga (Grenade) 50 PAF
http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=150739&forum=20&start=0&15#2

Dus Majarra (Spear) 30 PAF
http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=150739&forum=20&start=0&15#1

Gravity Break (Sword) 75 PAF
http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=150739&forum=20&start=0&15#10

Hikai Shuuha-zan (Single Dagger) 25 PAF
http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=150739&forum=20&start=0&15#2

Masei-shiki (Card) 60 PAF
http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=150739&forum=20&start=45&60#51

Masei-sou (Bow) 75 PAF
http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=150739&forum=20&start=0&15#7

Mayalee Shot (Rifle) 50 PAF

Megistar (Dark Tech) 25 PAF

Penetrating Hit (Handgun) 90 PAF

Phantasm Prism (Laser) 25 PAF

Regrants (Light Tech) 90 PAF
http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=150739&forum=20&start=0&15#7

Spinning Strike (Saber) 50 PAF

Twin Penetration (Twin Handgun) 90 PAF
http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=150739&forum=20&start=0&15#1

Yak Maga (Crossbow) 60 PAF

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Summarized list:
http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=150739&forum=20&start=45&60#60


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Dus Majarra:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v84/Shiryuu/PSU/majarra.jpg
30 frags
Level 1: ATPx146% ATAx72% 20PP 2x3Hits
Level 11: ATPx156% ATAx72% 20PP 8+Hits (14+ total)
Level 21: ATPx166% ATAx72% 20PP 3Hits (17+ total)
Level 30: ATPx175% ATAx72%
*deletes dus daggas*
Attack is fully rotatable. Each combo gets stronger, last 3 hits do double damage.

Twin Penetration:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v84/Shiryuu/PSU/tp.jpg
90 frags
Level 1: ATPx61% ATAx56% 16PP
So far it's just like Mayalee hit, It goes thru but monsters have to be close to each other. Maybe it'll get better with more level.





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FOnewearl-Lina
Aug 9, 2007, 05:09 AM
-Boma Duranga 50 PA frags
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y274/FoLina/PSU/psu20070809_190250_000.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y274/FoLina/PSU/psu20070809_193405_002.jpg
205% ATP at lvl 1.... BEaST!
Has a beserk effect though, so make sure you got a resta-spammer handy, cause you *can* kill yourself using this http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

-Hikai Shuuha-zan 25 PA frags
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y274/FoLina/PSU/psu20070809_192301_001.jpg
3rd dagger PA is 4 hits, down on 4th. Basically just a combination of the 2nd parts of the first 2 PAs (3 spin hits from Buten, jump attack that downs from Shunbu).

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Micro
Aug 9, 2007, 05:12 AM
Only 30 frags for Majarra? Figured it would be more than that... lol

AC9breaker
Aug 9, 2007, 05:15 AM
Daaaaaaaaaaaaam 205% Thats sick, lol. The effect says level 2. Since G.Launchers PA go up to SE 3 I'm guessing its gonna stay at 2. Imagine berserk SE4? U DED

Chaobo99
Aug 9, 2007, 05:15 AM
Rangers better not scream for heals every 2 seconds -_-;

Midicronica
Aug 9, 2007, 05:18 AM
On 2007-08-09 03:15, AC9breaker wrote:
Daaaaaaaaaaaaam



Seconded.


:edit:

Oh yeah, please let us know what the rifles ULT PA is. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

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Ceresa
Aug 9, 2007, 05:52 AM
Maseisou, Bow 75 frags

http://pages.prodigy.net/bienb/maseisou.JPG

Knockdown + sometimes paralysis. Rate of fire is pure ass.

Regrants, 90 frags

http://pages.prodigy.net/bienb/regrants.JPG

Basically reverse Megiverse, you receive about 12% of the damage you do, which in the case of some LL S trash, was about 470 per enemy, so I was taking 55 a hit or so.

Rest assured you won't be killing yourself cause it has a nice blowaway effect on each hit like the last hit of Tornado Break. It also doesn't have the 2second start up time like Megiverse, it can dmg as soon as you cast.

Dj_SkyEpic
Aug 9, 2007, 06:24 AM
I would like to see this at level 21 o.o I wonder who can get it there for us!

-Was referring to Regrants-

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Ceresa
Aug 9, 2007, 07:19 AM
Well some stuff on Regrants, if you blow an enemy into a wall, then do regrants there, you'll keep knocking them into the wall keeping them in your tech range, when the tech runs out they'll fall down, giving you time to resta and restart the process. If something approaches from behind you, there's a decent chance they'll run into the grants as it does dmg, and send them back to try again.

So Hive stuff, cause that's where you'll use it...

Pannon/Deljaban get tossed pretty far away

Sendillan don't get thrown too far, just a short distance and knocked down, dunno if it's same for all 4 legged bastards. Can pretty much just stand there with them swarming around you and hit them all, knock them down and keep going.

Jusnagen got knocked on their ass and are easily pinned in a wall and you can regrants indefinitely until they die and there's nothing they can do about it.

Dilnazen get flinched indefinitely, nothing on seed vitace, nothing on Carriguine.

You can kill yourself pretty fast doing this though, and Regrants can kill you, it won't just stop at 1 hp.

Hits 12 times in 10 seconds or so. I seem to take the same damage % at 11 as 1 so that's good, cause it can be a ton of incoming damage very fast, but since I have resta on the same rod for more light %, it's no problem to heal up quickly.

AxelgearVII
Aug 9, 2007, 07:23 AM
-Gravity Break, Sword, 75 frags
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r292/AxelgearX/gravitybreakstats.jpg
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r292/AxelgearX/gravitybreakhit.jpg

At 345% ATP AT LEVEL 1, this PA is obscenely powerful. Check out the damage I did to S2 Bel Pannons, with no buffs, using an Ice Caliburn. Jesus Christ.

Level 11: 362% ATP, 70% ATA

-Anga Jabroga, Axe, 99 frags
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r292/AxelgearX/angadugregastats.jpg
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r292/AxelgearX/angadugrega.jpg

The fact that the explosive effect wasn't in that video in the other thread must be a graphical error on the players side or something. This move is slow to start, so it's better to use it to blow enemies away before they reach you. Definitely not a good attack for close combat.



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amtalx
Aug 9, 2007, 07:27 AM
Someone post the Laser Cannon, Machinegun, Xbow, and Rifle w/stats before I have a stroke please. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

FOnewearl-Lina
Aug 9, 2007, 07:43 AM
On 2007-08-09 05:27, amtalx wrote:
Someone post the Laser Cannon, Machinegun, Xbow, and Rifle w/stats before I have a stroke please. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Sorry, no mechgun this update...

Mystil
Aug 9, 2007, 07:45 AM
On 2007-08-09 05:23, AxelgearVII wrote:
-Gravity Break, Sword, 75 frags
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r292/AxelgearX/gravitybreakstats.jpg
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r292/AxelgearX/gravitybreakhit.jpg

At 345% ATP AT LEVEL 1, this PA is obscenely powerful. Check out the damage I did to S2 Bel Pannons, with no buffs, using an Ice Caliburn. Jesus Christ.



OHHHHHH MYYY GAWDDDD. 345% ATP???!!!! Hell yea! Now THATS what I'm talking about. I am going to play all day and all night til I get that baby to 30!



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RegulusHikari
Aug 9, 2007, 08:07 AM
On 2007-08-09 05:43, FOnewearl-Lina wrote:

On 2007-08-09 05:27, amtalx wrote:
Someone post the Laser Cannon, Machinegun, Xbow, and Rifle w/stats before I have a stroke please. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Sorry, no mechgun this update...



Is that the ONLY bullet not available or are they going to hold us off even longer this time?

AC9breaker
Aug 9, 2007, 08:44 AM
On 2007-08-09 05:23, AxelgearVII wrote:
-Gravity Break, Sword, 75 frags
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r292/AxelgearX/gravitybreakstats.jpg
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r292/AxelgearX/gravitybreakhit.jpg

At 345% ATP AT LEVEL 1, this PA is obscenely powerful. Check out the damage I did to S2 Bel Pannons, with no buffs, using an Ice Caliburn. Jesus Christ.




HELL YEAH Time to invest in a gigush Line!

Realmz
Aug 9, 2007, 09:03 AM
On 2007-08-09 05:23, AxelgearVII wrote:
-Gravity Break, Sword, 75 frags
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r292/AxelgearX/gravitybreakstats.jpg
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r292/AxelgearX/gravitybreakhit.jpg

At 345% ATP AT LEVEL 1, this PA is obscenely powerful. Check out the damage I did to S2 Bel Pannons, with no buffs, using an Ice Caliburn. Jesus Christ.


i've never wanted to use a sword as much as i do now...

Golto
Aug 9, 2007, 09:06 AM
Too bad gravity break will eat through photon chargers faster than lvl 21+ killer shot.

Dj_SkyEpic
Aug 9, 2007, 09:17 AM
Gravity Break is Godly. This is THE reason to get a Sword. Especially the Gigush Set.

Darkly
Aug 9, 2007, 09:25 AM
342% is impressive but doesn't the last attack of gravity break have an even larger percentage, considering in that video its damage roughly doubles in the final hit ?

RadiantLegend
Aug 9, 2007, 09:51 AM
fF + skill save = sword loving.

How good is the set?

Lamak
Aug 9, 2007, 09:54 AM
Ugh Gravity Break seems like hacks. Knowing Sega, they'll probably nerf it, like they did Daggas.

Shiro_Ryuu
Aug 9, 2007, 09:59 AM
Oh man, I was just starting to fall in love with big swords BEFORE I even saw the vid of this PA doing that damage. I only really got a Gigush Line and Gigush swords because of Panzerunit's thread of win button for fighters. Now this makes me even happier to have gotten those Gigush stuff. My Beast will totally love killing stuff w/ that PA. ^0^

Darkly
Aug 9, 2007, 09:59 AM
all i know is that when it comes out over here im off to parum with my caliburn, dont wait up y'all.

RegulusHikari
Aug 9, 2007, 10:01 AM
It's definitely going to replace that piece of junk T-Break on my FG, that's for sure.

Golto
Aug 9, 2007, 10:06 AM
Just think what a 50% element sword on a lvl 100 beast FF could do with gravity break, I'm thinking 1700+ per hit on first combo.

Sekani
Aug 9, 2007, 10:39 AM
On 2007-08-09 03:52, Ceresa wrote:
Maseisou, Bow 75 frags

http://pages.prodigy.net/bienb/maseisou.JPG

Knockdown + sometimes paralysis. Rate of fire is pure ass.

So, this is the PA the GH-442 uses?

And WHAT THE FUCK is up with Gravity Break? 342%?!?! Are you kidding me?

Esufer
Aug 9, 2007, 10:40 AM
Are his arms folded during Dus Majarra?

If so that's the most smug looking PA ever.

HFlowen
Aug 9, 2007, 11:32 AM
DEAR GOD!

Hath_Wrobo
Aug 9, 2007, 11:43 AM
So, no Megistal yet?

Niloklives
Aug 9, 2007, 11:47 AM
how does Massei-Sou's RoF compare to Chousei-Sou?

Umberger
Aug 9, 2007, 11:57 AM
On 2007-08-09 09:43, Hath_Wrobo wrote:
So, no Megistal yet?



People are most likely getting the PAs that are unknown online...for stat collecting and the like. Also, many people consider Megistal/Megistar to be pretty worthless because it doesn't buff any party members, and damages the caster over time.

Good to hear that Regrants has uber knockback to counter its low damage modifier though.

Shiryuu
Aug 9, 2007, 12:01 PM
On 2007-08-09 08:40, Esufer wrote:
Are his arms folded during Dus Majarra?

If so that's the most smug looking PA ever.


Yup.

Better view:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v84/Shiryuu/PSU/freeze27.jpg

Niloklives
Aug 9, 2007, 12:02 PM
knock back, splash and a really low PP cost. Sounds good to me.

Inazuma
Aug 9, 2007, 12:09 PM
regrants is the fastest leveling tech ever. i got mine to 29 in just a couple of hours. it looks like its gonna end up w/ 100% damage at lv 30. its a very awesome tech overall.

amtalx
Aug 9, 2007, 12:14 PM
Kinda seems like the gunners got the shaft this time around...

RedCoKid
Aug 9, 2007, 12:18 PM
Edit: Darnit, I wanted dizas/rentis... http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_cry.gif

PA frag requirement on megistar?

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Zorafim
Aug 9, 2007, 12:34 PM
I need a bit more information on the fF melee weapons. For the Lance PA, the ride part hits twice against three targets? Or three times against two targets? Is the multi-stab three attacks against two targets as well? And the blow away, once for double damage, against three targets? 20 PP use for a fighgunner, what does this translate for a fF with a skillsave? 13 PP?

I think sword is fairly strait-forward, in terms of stats. Two hits vs two targets, one hit vs. two targets with knockup (1.5x damage), one hit vs. two targets (2x damage). Is this correct? And again, what's the PP cost for a fF with skillsave? Heck, just give me the amount fFs and skillsaves reduce PP costs by, and I'll figure it out.

For axe, um, 155%? That's it? Doesn't this PA only hit one time against three targets, doing instant knockback? Considering the high PP cost and the long windup, that doesn't sound very appealing...


And what tech PAs have been released?

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Umberger
Aug 9, 2007, 12:44 PM
Tech PAs: Regrants and Megistar.
I thought the Axe was two hits against four targets with knockback?

PJ
Aug 9, 2007, 12:45 PM
The axe PA hits 4 targets 2 times each, IIRC.

Snickerman is gonna LOVE berserk grenades :C Shit

pikachief
Aug 9, 2007, 12:46 PM
On 2007-08-09 10:14, amtalx wrote:
Kinda seems like the gunners got the shaft this time around...



your saying our PAs didnt completely suck last time?

lol

pikachief
Aug 9, 2007, 12:50 PM
On 2007-08-09 05:23, AxelgearVII wrote:
-Gravity Break, Sword, 75 frags
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r292/AxelgearX/gravitybreakstats.jpg
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r292/AxelgearX/gravitybreakhit.jpg

At 345% ATP AT LEVEL 1, this PA is obscenely powerful. Check out the damage I did to S2 Bel Pannons, with no buffs, using an Ice Caliburn. Jesus Christ.




wow at first i was kind dissapointed form getting a rare board from the salvatus and it bieng a caliburn. but i had enough materials and i had stacks of megi-photons so might as well make a dark one.

made it 22% nice time to put it in shop.....

... OMG I NEED TO TAKE IT OUT BEFORE IT SELLS!!! XD lol
lol time to tell my friend that all that cash he put into guigushes and his gigush line was well worth it http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Shiryuu
Aug 9, 2007, 12:52 PM
On 2007-08-09 10:34, Zorafim wrote:
For the Lance PA, the ride part hits twice against three targets? Or three times against two targets? Is the multi-stab three attacks against two targets as well? And the blow away, once for double damage, against three targets?

(Targets)x(Hits)

Zorafim
Aug 9, 2007, 12:53 PM
So, um, the second attack hits 8 times against one target?

pikachief
Aug 9, 2007, 01:01 PM
On 2007-08-09 10:53, Zorafim wrote:
So, um, the second attack hits 8 times against one target?



idk it would be nice if they would take the time to explain it but oh well u could also be patient and wait 2 months http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Sasamichan
Aug 9, 2007, 01:04 PM
On 2007-08-09 03:09, FOnewearl-Lina wrote:

Has a beserk effect though, so make sure you got alot of mates handy, cause you *can* kill yourself using this http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif



Fixed.

Lyrise
Aug 9, 2007, 01:09 PM
Spinning Strike: you've seen it used by Bruce and Ethan, but we finally get to use it. At level 1, it's 252%, only single target though. What makes it pretty good is its PP cost, its REALLY low. 16PP to use, fully rotatable like Rising Strike, gains 2% a level, 1% ATA, not sure what the max is yet, since lke most other heavy attack PAs, they do take longer to level.

And judging from its growth pattern, Gravity Break will top out at 400%.

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Shiryuu
Aug 9, 2007, 01:12 PM
On 2007-08-09 10:53, Zorafim wrote:
So, um, the second attack hits 8 times against one target?


Just think of it as like math. If something is #x1, it's better to just write the # alone. So 8 = 8 targets.

Lyrise
Aug 9, 2007, 01:18 PM
Another small note about Twin Penetration: the range is lessened, by what looks to me like 30%. Of course, this is a mob killer, so I doubt range is an issue.

Dein
Aug 9, 2007, 01:32 PM
I imagine that Spinning Strike will cap around 300% if it doesn't gain 2% every level. I'm still surprised that it started so high though for a saber skill but I wonder if it'll beat out Gravity Strike for damage output since it's single target.

Jife_Jifremok
Aug 9, 2007, 01:33 PM
Whoa, more bullets before AoI? Well, I now have a good excuse to delete those rifle bullets that've been collecting dust...

The berserk grenade, if it does enough damage to be worth it, will probably be my most-used PA when we get it. I wonder if it'll send me back to base faster than Boma Maga's ridiculous PP cost...

Twin Penetration takes out crowds? Sweet. I only like to hit multiple targets with twin guns (being as close as I can to the multi-directional firing found in Gun.Smoke arcade/NES game), so this multi-hit should only make it that much sweeter.

Ceresa
Aug 9, 2007, 01:49 PM
Card, Maseishiki 60 frags, defense down effect

http://pages.prodigy.net/bienb/maseishiki.JPG

And whoever was asking about Megistal, it's 25 frags.

PJ
Aug 9, 2007, 01:50 PM
It's Megistar -.-

RedCoKid
Aug 9, 2007, 01:50 PM
Photon Art (weapon) - fragment requirement - special effect:
Gravity break (sword) - 75 -
Dus Majarra (spear) - 30 -
Anga jabroga (axe) - 99 -
Spinning strike (saber) -
Hikai shuuha-zan (dagger) - 25 -

Mayalee shot (rifle) -
Barada Chamga (shotgun) -
Masei-sou (bow) - 75 - knockdown + paralysis
Boma Duranga (grenade launcher) - 50 -
Phantasm prizm (laser cannon) -
Twin penetration (twin handgun) - 90 -
Penetrating hit (handgun) -
Yak Maga (crossbow) -
Masai-shiki (card) - 60 - defense down

Regrants (tech) - 90 - knockback + self HP drain
Megistar (tech) - 25 - self all buffs + self HP drain

Anyone willing to fill in the rest?


On 2007-08-09 11:49, Ceresa wrote:
And whoever was asking about Megistal, it's 25 frags.Thanks!

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Hrith
Aug 9, 2007, 01:53 PM
On 2007-08-09 03:52, Ceresa wrote:
Maseisou, Bow 75 frags

http://pages.prodigy.net/bienb/maseisou.JPG

Knockdown + sometimes paralysis. Rate of fire is pure ass.Pure ass = good or bad? people use that in both senses =/

Rashiid
Aug 9, 2007, 01:58 PM
Gravity Break: omg im getting a 50% Ice/Ground Caliburn just for that PA.
Single Dagger: im gonna try to get another Halp for that PA; or just settle w/ a Deva.
Dus Angel Spear PA Thinggy: if i get a 10*+ spear; im going fF just for that PA.
Twin Destination Penetration: meh; ill probably get.

incase yall dont know; ive dropped Kandii for a long time; so im on Sha`raun http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

Ceresa
Aug 9, 2007, 02:03 PM
It's like half the speed of a regular bow shot. I never used the other ultimate bow PA so I don't know if it's similar, but after you fire, you totally can't move or shoot for like a second.

It's rather difficult to keep even 2 enemies down at once, and usually the 2nd goes down as the first is standing back up.

Compared to any hunter PA with knockdown, or Regrants or Grenades, this is probably the worst possible option.

Rashiid
Aug 9, 2007, 02:05 PM
tha PM makes it seem so easy to use >.<

Lamak
Aug 9, 2007, 02:09 PM
On 2007-08-09 12:03, Ceresa wrote:
It's like half the speed of a regular bow shot. I never used the other ultimate bow PA so I don't know if it's similar, but after you fire, you totally can't move or shoot for like a second.

It's rather difficult to keep even 2 enemies down at once, and usually the 2nd goes down as the first is standing back up.

Compared to any hunter PA with knockdown, or Regrants or Grenades, this is probably the worst possible option.

Ugh, sounds like bull from the way you describe it. I would need to see a video comparing it to a regular bow PA and the 1st Ultimate Bow PA.

Rashiid
Aug 9, 2007, 02:11 PM
yeah i see all these pics; i think vids would be alot easier then typin all this info!

Lyrise
Aug 9, 2007, 02:41 PM
On 2007-08-09 11:50, RedCoKid wrote:
Photon Art (weapon) - fragment requirement - special effect:
Gravity break (sword) - 75 -
Dus Majarra (spear) - 30 -
Anga jabroga (axe) - 99 -
Spinning strike (saber) - 50
Hikai shuuha-zan (dagger) - 25 -

Mayalee shot (rifle) - 50 - sleep
Barada Chamga (shotgun) - 25 - Charm
Masei-sou (bow) - 75 - knockdown + paralysis
Boma Duranga (grenade launcher) - 50 - Berserk
Phantasm prizm (laser cannon) - 25 - sleep
Twin penetration (twin handgun) - 90 -
Penetrating hit (handgun) - 90
Yak Maga (crossbow) - 60 - Attack power down
Masai-shiki (card) - 60 - defense down

Regrants (tech) - 90 - knockback + self HP drain
Megistar (tech) - 25 - self all buffs + self HP drain

Anyone willing to fill in the rest?


On 2007-08-09 11:49, Ceresa wrote:
And whoever was asking about Megistal, it's 25 frags.Thanks!


There you go.



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ryvius
Aug 9, 2007, 02:49 PM
Considering how they nerfed Daggas and RBZ, I'm a bit wary about how Gravity break will look by the time we get it.. really hoping it stays this way though >_>

amtalx
Aug 9, 2007, 02:56 PM
On 2007-08-09 12:41, Lyrise wrote:

On 2007-08-09 11:50, RedCoKid wrote:
Photon Art (weapon) - fragment requirement - special effect:
Gravity break (sword) - 75 -
Dus Majarra (spear) - 30 -
Anga jabroga (axe) - 99 -
Spinning strike (saber) - 50
Hikai shuuha-zan (dagger) - 25 -

Mayalee shot (rifle) - 50 - sleep
Barada Chamga (shotgun) - 25 - Charm
Masei-sou (bow) - 75 - knockdown + paralysis
Boma Duranga (grenade launcher) - 50 - Berserk
Phantasm prizm (laser cannon) - 25 - sleep
Twin penetration (twin handgun) - 90 -
Penetrating hit (handgun) - 90
Yak Maga (crossbow) - 60 - Attack power down
Masai-shiki (card) - 60 - defense down

Regrants (tech) - 90 - knockback + self HP drain
Megistar (tech) - 25 - self all buffs + self HP drain

Anyone willing to fill in the rest?


On 2007-08-09 11:49, Ceresa wrote:
And whoever was asking about Megistal, it's 25 frags.Thanks!


There you go.



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Lyrise on 2007-08-09 12:42 ]</font>


Thank you. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Can anyone tell me how Berserk actually works? I have no idea...

Also, what is the max SE Lvl for Phantasm Prism? If anyone knows yet...

Rashiid
Aug 9, 2007, 02:56 PM
Sleep!!!!!!

holy hell!!

Rashiid
Aug 9, 2007, 02:56 PM
Beserk = hurt urself.

JAFO22000
Aug 9, 2007, 02:59 PM
On 2007-08-09 10:46, pikachief wrote:

On 2007-08-09 10:14, amtalx wrote:
Kinda seems like the gunners got the shaft this time around...



your saying our PAs didnt completely suck last time?

lol



Or perhaps ST is trying to balance the classes a little more, seeing as gunner is the "easy" class to play and hunters "aren't needed", maybe now that they can do really good damage, hunters will be more called upon. Don't tell STRYKE FORCE!!!!!!

Chuck_Norris
Aug 9, 2007, 03:24 PM
On 2007-08-09 03:52, Ceresa wrote:

http://pages.prodigy.net/bienb/regrants.JPG



Is that a psycho wand in your hands?

Micro
Aug 9, 2007, 03:28 PM
On 2007-08-09 05:23, AxelgearVII wrote:
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r292/AxelgearX/gravitybreakhit.jpg

At 345% ATP AT LEVEL 1, this PA is obscenely powerful. Check out the damage I did to S2 Bel Pannons, with no buffs, using an Ice Caliburn. Jesus Christ.


OH MY GOD... I think I need new pants..

Lamak
Aug 9, 2007, 03:28 PM
On 2007-08-09 13:24, chuck_norris wrote:

On 2007-08-09 03:52, Ceresa wrote:

http://pages.prodigy.net/bienb/regrants.JPG



Is that a psycho wand in your hands?

It looks like one, and lol so laggy on PSOW. :|

Lamak
Aug 9, 2007, 03:47 PM
Hm. So I hear Megistar at level 21 is Level 4 Buffs? Does anybody have confirmation (Doubt it)?

Crazy_Hunter
Aug 9, 2007, 04:33 PM
MUST....HAVE....GRAVITY BREAK.....SO.....INCREDIBLY.....STRONG.....

Zael
Aug 9, 2007, 05:18 PM
Ahahaha. I'm definitely keeping my swords now. Gravity Break's gunna see a LOT of use.

Tekershee
Aug 9, 2007, 05:22 PM
*hugs 50% ice Caliburn*

Mayu
Aug 9, 2007, 05:23 PM
I was going to sell most of mine lol

~huggles every element of caliburn at 44-50 -.-~

Glad I didn't do it http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif



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Inazuma
Aug 9, 2007, 05:25 PM
On 2007-08-09 13:47, Lamak wrote:
Hm. So I hear Megistar at level 21 is Level 4 Buffs? Does anybody have confirmation (Doubt it)?



i have mine afk leveling rite now. it was lv 4 this morning when i left the house. but i remember megistar lv 1 starts w/ buff lv 1. so its my guess that lv 11 = lv 2 buffs, and lv 21 = lv 3 buffs. same as our normal buff techs. but if it turns out to be any different, ill post here about it.

Zael
Aug 9, 2007, 05:29 PM
44% Caliburn Ice
50% Caliburn Fire
44% Caliburn Lightning
50% Caliburn Earth
44% Caliburn Light
50% Caliburn Dark

<3 <3 <3

White_Mage
Aug 9, 2007, 05:30 PM
dus majarra +gravity break+that dagger pa=<3

HFlowen
Aug 9, 2007, 05:32 PM
*Hugs mass produced and easy to grind gigush's*

KamiSori
Aug 9, 2007, 05:45 PM
im so freakin happy to see the power of gravity break. finally a reason to use a sword above a spear!!!

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Mayu
Aug 9, 2007, 05:52 PM
You know

They are so nerfing it http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Like they did with Dus Daggas http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

<3

Or are they o.0?



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Lamak
Aug 9, 2007, 05:54 PM
On 2007-08-09 15:52, Ryuugu-Rena wrote:
You know

They are so nerfing it http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Like they did with Dus Daggas http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

<3

Or are they o.0?



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They are gonna have to nerf it. Everyone is gonna be running around 4k critting things. They won't even let us 2.5k crit with our Spears. <_>

ryvius
Aug 9, 2007, 05:54 PM
That's why I dunno if i wanna go synthing a bunch of Caliburns.. still, it'd have to be a pretty huge nerf to make it USELESS.

Mayu
Aug 9, 2007, 05:55 PM
Well Dus Daggas is still overpowered lol

even if they did nerf it http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Would still be good right?

Zael
Aug 9, 2007, 05:56 PM
Question: does twin penetration hit multiple target points on the same enemy?

Lamak
Aug 9, 2007, 05:58 PM
On 2007-08-09 15:55, Ryuugu-Rena wrote:
Well Dus Daggas is still overpowered lol

even if they did nerf it http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Would still be good right?

Yeah it would be good for people like you. With 50% everything. (50% Spear Handles. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif)

Mayu
Aug 9, 2007, 06:00 PM
<.<

Spears are still good even at low % silly <.<!!! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Realmz
Aug 9, 2007, 06:01 PM
after watching a video of the Axe PA (or rather one that shows someone else doing) i can tell that i wouldn't like it even if i did use axes a lot XD.

Recca might go around being a fortefighter and using Gravity Break tho :o



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Lamak
Aug 9, 2007, 06:01 PM
They're not great. They're ok in my opinion. Well I traded my 44% Fire Muktrand for a 44% Fire Katsuno. I like to use a non crappy normal combo every once and awhile. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Mayu
Aug 9, 2007, 06:02 PM
Isn't the Axe PA just like

- a huge charge up then well umm - a Second claw PA Jump slam? o.o?

Golto
Aug 9, 2007, 06:09 PM
Sleep for two bullet pas? Has to be the most worthless SE ever. One hit and its nullified.



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Lamak
Aug 9, 2007, 06:13 PM
On 2007-08-09 16:09, Golto wrote:
Sleep for two bullet pas? Has to be the most worthless SE ever. One hit and its nullified.



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Put Gaozorans or something to sleep. And kill the other enemies? I guess.

RegulusHikari
Aug 9, 2007, 06:13 PM
On 2007-08-09 16:09, Golto wrote:
Sleep for two bullet pas? Has to be the most worthless SE ever. One hit and its nullified.



Exactly. ESPECIALLY for the Laser. It's JUNK. I can see Rifle being good for soloing, but I can't imagine how hard it's gonna be to land it. Interesting to see that the Mech is and Card are absent and the Card is useless (again).


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Golto
Aug 9, 2007, 06:14 PM
Well why not confuse them instead and save a lot of pp? They probably last the same amount of time.


Somewhere in this topic it states the 2nd card is dfp lowering SE.


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Crazy_Hunter
Aug 9, 2007, 06:19 PM
GIVE...GRAVITY BREAK...NOW!!!

FOnewearl-Lina
Aug 9, 2007, 06:54 PM
On 2007-08-09 16:09, Golto wrote:
Sleep for two bullet pas? Has to be the most worthless SE ever. One hit and its nullified.

I'd assume it lasts longer at higher SE level, but I'm not going to waste frags and time levelling *another* rifle bullet to find out...

Gen2000
Aug 9, 2007, 07:01 PM
When I look at the ATP Mods of Boma Duranga and Gravity Break at lv.1, it seems like offline stats. Pretty ridiculous. They are way too good. In some ways Boma Duranga seems ok with the Berserk thing but I'm sure that won't be a problem considering the massive damage it can cause, just pop more mates. Done.

Gravity Break is insane though, 342% at lv.1? Are you ****ing kidding me? lol. People already bitched about pre-nerfed Dus's DPS making other weapons useless and Gravity Break isn't really that slow of a PA considering the massive damage it does per hit. ST letting Gravity Break run wild like that without nerfing it would be lulz. I wouldn't care though because I always liked swords over both spear and axes on my fF.

Megistar, I've been waiting on that for a while don't care what the other haters think of it. On my hybrids it'll save me space on PA slots and only one cast means I'm back in action quicker. If others want some of that buff goodness they can make they're own hybrid.

As I figured the Twins piercing PA is pretty damn weak but it could still end up being great maybe. Especially in a party full of Gunners using the same PA.



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Zael
Aug 9, 2007, 08:03 PM
I still want to know if the Piercing PAs can hit the same monster multiple times if it has two target points.

Xaeris
Aug 9, 2007, 08:10 PM
Zalure? On a...card? The logic of behind this bullet is especially elusive. Is it Lv 4 or something...?

Para
Aug 9, 2007, 09:15 PM
On 2007-08-09 17:01, Gen2000 wrote:
When I look at the ATP Mods of Boma Maga and Gravity Break at lv.1, it seems like offline stats. Pretty ridiculous. They are way too good. In some ways Boma Maga seems ok with the Berserk thing but I'm sure that won't be a problem considering the massive damage it can cause, just pop more mates. Done.


I think you are referring to Boma Duranga, not Boma Maga because Boma Maga is a grenade launcher PA that freezes monsters on hit.

Siertes
Aug 9, 2007, 09:36 PM
Not sure how to feel about the way TwinPen came out. With that PP cost at lvl 1 and that ATP mod...seems to me the elemental twins with their SE would be better in the long run.

Niloklives
Aug 9, 2007, 09:37 PM
On 2007-08-09 17:01, Gen2000 wrote:
When I look at the ATP Mods of Boma Maga and Gravity Break at lv.1, it seems like offline stats. Pretty ridiculous. They are way too good. In some ways Boma Maga seems ok with the Berserk thing but I'm sure that won't be a problem considering the massive damage it can cause, just pop more mates. Done.

Gravity Break is insane though, 342% at lv.1? Are you ****ing kidding me? lol. People already bitched about pre-nerfed Dus's DPS making other weapons useless and Gravity Break isn't really that slow of a PA considering the massive damage it does per hit. ST letting Gravity Break run wild like that without nerfing it would be lulz. I wouldn't care though because I always liked swords over both spear and axes on my fF.

Megistar, I've been waiting on that for a while don't care what the other haters think of it. On my hybrids it'll save me space on PA slots and only one cast means I'm back in action quicker. If others want some of that buff goodness they can make they're own hybrid.

As I figured the Twins piercing PA is pretty damn weak but it could still end up being great maybe. Especially in a party full of Gunners using the same PA.



Do you hate kittens?



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Gen2000
Aug 9, 2007, 09:55 PM
On 2007-08-09 19:15, Para wrote:
I think you are referring to Boma Duranga, not Boma Maga because Boma Maga is a grenade launcher PA that freezes monsters on hit.


Ah yeah, I meant Duranga. I never really care for the names of the GL launchers PAs too much for some reason Maga sticks to me the most but anyways I mean Duranga. *edits previous post*


NIloklives wrote:Do you hate kittens?

They're delicious. I'll leave it at that.


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Uncle_bob
Aug 9, 2007, 10:27 PM
Just a thought.. if the rifle PA causes sleep, wouldn't that make it pretty useless on the U.S. servers? With the horrible lag when attacking enemies, the shot after the one that inflicted sleep would just wake the enemy back up, huh?

Arowind91
Aug 9, 2007, 10:31 PM
I cant wait for the dagger PA. The spear PA also looks cool to use and I dont even like spears

AxelgearVII
Aug 9, 2007, 10:32 PM
On 2007-08-09 18:03, Zael wrote:
I still want to know if the Piercing PAs can hit the same monster multiple times if it has two target points.



Yes it does. It hits all points within range.

HFlowen
Aug 9, 2007, 10:36 PM
On 2007-08-09 20:32, AxelgearVII wrote:

On 2007-08-09 18:03, Zael wrote:
I still want to know if the Piercing PAs can hit the same monster multiple times if it has two target points.



Yes it does. It hits all points within range.

RIP cannon

biggabertha
Aug 10, 2007, 12:04 AM
Oh well... Now that Phantasm Prism has been confirmed to be pretty much useless, the laser is just a ranged, linear sword. Why sleep? I wonder how useful this will be in both parties and in solo.

Twin Penetration and Penetrating hit sound like idedal Fortegunner PAs, I wonder how well a Guntecher can deal damage and how well a Protranser can deal damage with these PAs (Penetrating Hit for Protransers).

Gravity Break is going to make swords so popular that I don't really know if the four relatively slow strikes will really make a stand against the eight speedy strikes that Dus Daggas has or the twelve strikes that Dus Majarra has. (I'm not counting the targets that it can do since many players use it against a single target eg. Tengohg or Jarba.) Let's hope that the insane ATP modifier makes it to our servers for at least a week so we can say we've had it at it's broken ATP. (Heh, wouldn't it be nice if they UPPED the attack power? n.n; )

Anga Jabroga is on my heavy want list. It looks like the party swarm version of Bogga Zuppa so it seems more geared for Protransers in that sense. I have a sneaking feeling that Anga Dugrega will be favoured over this PA though...

That Saber PA looks like it will do exceptionally well against single target enemies (much like the first two parts of Assault Crush) and I can only imagine how much better a Fortefighter can take on a Tengohg now.

Shame about the other bullet PAs though... I really hoped that the Longbow one wouldn't have been so... Disappointing.

*Makes a list of wants: Gravity Break, Dus Majarra, Anga Jabroga, Spinning Strike, Barada Chamga (What a lame name...) and Penetrating Hit. Now to think of six PAs to get rid of... >.<

Realmz
Aug 10, 2007, 12:10 AM
well if gravity break has the same three hits as the other two PAs have it will just destroy anything with multipul hit boxes (which is what i think Fortefighters should be doing anyway) but to save PP i'd just use Dus Daggas on anything that doesn't have three boxes or is too fast for a sword (damn you and your running gol dova!)

only thing i want out of these are Gravity Break and maybe the Saber PA (is it really spinning Strike? theres no real spinning..)

Arika
Aug 10, 2007, 12:12 AM
On 2007-08-09 05:45, Mystil wrote:

On 2007-08-09 05:23, AxelgearVII wrote:
-Gravity Break, Sword, 75 frags
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r292/AxelgearX/gravitybreakstats.jpg
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r292/AxelgearX/gravitybreakhit.jpg

At 345% ATP AT LEVEL 1, this PA is obscenely powerful. Check out the damage I did to S2 Bel Pannons, with no buffs, using an Ice Caliburn. Jesus Christ.



OHHHHHH MYYY GAWDDDD. 345% ATP???!!!! Hell yea! Now THATS what I'm talking about. I am going to play all day and all night til I get that baby to 30!






-_-; , Don't tell me that SEGA do this as a mistake before nerf it in a few weeks http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif



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pikachief
Aug 10, 2007, 12:18 AM
On 2007-08-09 22:04, biggabertha wrote:
Oh well... Now that Phantasm Prism has been confirmed to be pretty much useless, the laser is just a ranged, linear sword. Why sleep? I wonder how useful this will be in both parties and in solo.



thats the first ult gun PA im getting! unlimited PP+laser cannon glitch= WIN! i think its the rifle that will fail, isnt it just a sleep rifle? lol attacking them so much u won even notice they sleep like the skelas and sweet death

Gryffin
Aug 10, 2007, 12:25 AM
Dear god. I am getting Twin Pen as an Acrotecher... Lol.. Someone tell me that nothing important happens above Level 20 for it.

pikachief
Aug 10, 2007, 12:28 AM
it penatrates harder? idk probably just big atp increases every 10 lvls

Gryffin
Aug 10, 2007, 12:32 AM
On 2007-08-09 22:28, pikachief wrote:
it penatrates harder? idk probably just big atp increases every 10 lvls




*facepalm*

pikachief
Aug 10, 2007, 12:33 AM
On 2007-08-09 22:32, Gryffin wrote:

On 2007-08-09 22:28, pikachief wrote:
it penatrates harder? idk probably just big atp increases every 10 lvls




*facepalm*



if i wasnt so young and innocent i'd know what penatrate meant! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif wtff does it mean? i know it means something wrong but idk wat it means http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

Gryffin
Aug 10, 2007, 12:36 AM
On 2007-08-09 22:33, pikachief wrote:

if i wasnt so young and innocent i'd know what penatrate meant! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif wtff does it mean? i know it means something wrong but idk wat it means http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif



Well, I'd Loooooove to tell you, but lets keep this topic PG. XD

Think about it carefully, or google it.

Better not google it, Hannelore taught me better.
(MAJOR COOKIES FOR ANYONE GETTING THE REFERANCE)

Miyoko
Aug 10, 2007, 12:42 AM
Unless the sleep bullets have a 100% chance of going off, then they sound just horrible. ... Even then, they sound very awful and too situational. They'd be useful for soloing (maybe duoing), but in a big group? Waste of space. Your teamates would just wake up anything you've hit with a sleep bullet :/

... Unless it has insane ATP/ATA multipliers, too... Feh.

pikachief
Aug 10, 2007, 12:43 AM
On 2007-08-09 22:36, Gryffin wrote:

On 2007-08-09 22:33, pikachief wrote:

if i wasnt so young and innocent i'd know what penatrate meant! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif wtff does it mean? i know it means something wrong but idk wat it means http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif



Well, I'd Loooooove to tell you, but lets keep this topic PG. XD

Think about it carefully, or google it.

Better not google it, Hannelore taught me better.
(MAJOR COOKIES FOR ANYONE GETTING THE REFERANCE)



i guess i can guess wat it meant from someone saying they wanna use twin penatrate on some newmans, which i cant see hwo so many of u guys see atractive but yea... i guess we can get off this topic now then http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Schubalts
Aug 10, 2007, 12:47 AM
Never Google ANYTHING ifr you don't know what it means. You can't UNsee those things!

pikachief
Aug 10, 2007, 12:49 AM
On 2007-08-09 22:47, Schubalts wrote:
Never Google ANYTHING ifr you don't know what it means. You can't UNsee those things!



lol i know that already i learned the hard way http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

Mayu
Aug 10, 2007, 12:55 AM
Perverts!!! : )

- -

Dus Daggas will rip through the ulti PA

Only problem...

I rather fly then damage -.-

Gravity break <.< give now!! NO NERF <.< !! :_:

Those two will be my favorite http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Realmz
Aug 10, 2007, 12:56 AM
On 2007-08-09 22:32, Gryffin wrote:

*facepalm*



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Gryffin
Aug 10, 2007, 01:05 AM
Thanks, Realmz.



Back on TOPPIIIIIIIC.

Did other PA's get their costs lowered? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

Crazy_Hunter
Aug 10, 2007, 01:10 AM
I...NEED....GRAVITY BREAK....TO....LIVE!!!!!

Zorafim
Aug 10, 2007, 01:11 AM
I'm kinda hoping the axe PA was supposed to get the sword PA's attack modifier. Is it alright for a sword to be hitting for that much damage?

Gryffin
Aug 10, 2007, 01:12 AM
On 2007-08-09 23:11, Zorafim wrote:
I'm kinda hoping the axe PA was supposed to get the sword PA's attack modifier. Is it alright for a sword to be hitting for that much damage?



I was hoping for AT LEAST 200% at level one on the Axe PA. Now I don't want it as much as I first did T_T

Mayu
Aug 10, 2007, 01:13 AM
<.< It looks boring

Crazy_Hunter
Aug 10, 2007, 01:15 AM
OF COURSE IT IS! It's a sword, it demands uber-high damage(yay for not another spin PA)! I too thought the axe Pa would have a huge attack modifer but.. i use swords too..... 342% sword is cool too.......

GIVE GRAVITY BREAK NOW!!!

Siertes
Aug 10, 2007, 01:18 AM
From the day we get these PAs and onward, a fighter will no longer be considered to be "doing their job" unless they're spamming Gravity Break.

Mayu
Aug 10, 2007, 01:20 AM
what about if they wanna fly though ._.

Xaeris
Aug 10, 2007, 01:21 AM
I just think there has to be a mistake here. The only remotely balancing thing about Gravity Break is the PP cost. 75 PP to execute the full thing is no joke, and considering that was probably a fortefighter's status window, it's even worse for the protransers. Still, with that kind of damage, you'd probably end up spending less PP than if you used something else anyway.

That thing's getting the nerf bat within the month, I guarantee it.

Zael
Aug 10, 2007, 01:25 AM
lol, I'm still going to use Gravity Break with HPC

Siertes
Aug 10, 2007, 01:25 AM
On 2007-08-09 23:20, Ryuugu-Rena wrote:
what about if they wanna fly though ._.



The only flying you'll be doing is when I boot you from my party for not doing your job http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_evil.gif

Mayu
Aug 10, 2007, 01:27 AM
On 2007-08-09 23:25, Siertes wrote:

On 2007-08-09 23:20, Ryuugu-Rena wrote:
what about if they wanna fly though ._.



The only flying you'll be doing is when I boot you from my party for not doing your job http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_evil.gif

well actually spamming it will horrible <.< 75 PP o.0 soo thats about 4 times?

Dus Daggas will do par damage with it anyway http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

oh well I'll test both -.- when we get it in about mmm 2-3 months? w.e <.<

Aka
Aug 10, 2007, 01:30 AM
http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif Rena

Niloklives
Aug 10, 2007, 01:30 AM
yeah I definately have a reason to keep my caliburns now

Xaeris
Aug 10, 2007, 01:36 AM
I've got some decent Caliburns, but really, I'm not sure...I'm thinking I should take this time to spam some Ascauds and grind them. I'd be using GB as a protranser, so that cost is really not something I can take lightly.

Mayu
Aug 10, 2007, 01:38 AM
I was about to sell most of my caliburns

I have mine Set http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif hehe

Shiryuu
Aug 10, 2007, 02:22 AM
On 2007-08-09 22:55, Ryuugu-Rena wrote:

Dus Daggas will rip through the ulti PA

Only problem...

I rather fly then damage -.-



I do want to know if it really does do more damage. Get a 30% Light Muktrand (+Dus Daggas at 30) and do Linear Line A, then compare it with this vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQNYn9vwPlA

I'd do it myself, but Daggas take too long to level up.

EDIT: Here's a slight better version in wmv.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MK7589AO


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Alisha
Aug 10, 2007, 02:31 AM
On 2007-08-09 23:21, Xaeris wrote:
I just think there has to be a mistake here. The only remotely balancing thing about Gravity Break is the PP cost. 75 PP to execute the full thing is no joke, and considering that was probably a fortefighter's status window, it's even worse for the protransers. Still, with that kind of damage, you'd probably end up spending less PP than if you used something else anyway.

That thing's getting the nerf bat within the month, I guarantee it.



it may appear unbalanced if you simply compare it with dus daggas or something but if you compare all the spear pa's with all the sword pa's it seems more like just deserts to me. also gravity break has to be earned. dus daggas for all intents and purposes does not. perhaps a higher p frag requirement is in order but not a nerf.

Zorafim
Aug 10, 2007, 02:35 AM
The final Claw PA also has to be "earned". I don't think you can use that as an argument for comparing PAs.

Alisha
Aug 10, 2007, 02:38 AM
yeah but that pa only costs like 30 pa frags.

TetsuyaHikari
Aug 10, 2007, 03:34 AM
Ahhh...finally..a Sword Ultimate Art. A mighty fine one at that. More damage? Fine by me http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif! If anyone knows how I play with my character, "Saber Ver 2.0", then they know damn well by this point that more ATP = >:3

I can't WAIT for this. I'm going to start doing a lot more S runs for those fragments now, so when it is released, I can get it, then cleave through things faster than I what I do now XD!

I'm just like..a really power-hungry type of character, so..I run around with my whole palette filled with Caliburns. Saber has used Swords since day 1 and will continue using them till the day she dies (if anyone knows who my character is based off of, then they'll understand why I ONLY carry Swords).

So...bring on the Gravity Break! I'm already hitting for a little over 1,000 with Tornado Break, so let's do some more damage http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

Niloklives
Aug 10, 2007, 03:38 AM
On 2007-08-10 00:38, Alisha wrote:
yeah but that pa only costs like 30 pa frags.



50

Crazy_Hunter
Aug 10, 2007, 03:40 AM
Gravity Break will send my damage(and many others) through the roof, i just hope i can grab ahold of some 44% caliburns for it.

I too do about 1,000 with tornado break, and thats only, what, 165%? now with 342% you can expect everything to die almost too fast ^_^

Nai_Calus
Aug 10, 2007, 04:19 AM
Finally, a PA that out-WTFs Tornado Dance for sheer ludicrousness. Damn it, I need Dus Majarra just for the sheer lolz. The whole flying surfboard thing is WTF as it is, but the folded arms just completes the overdone goofiness. I LOLed.

Alisha
Aug 10, 2007, 04:42 AM
it it wasnt for the folded arms it coulda been a reference to Temjin.



oh and my mistake of the pa frags thing.

amtalx
Aug 10, 2007, 06:35 AM
Man, rangers don't seem so broken now...

Mr_Confused
Aug 10, 2007, 07:37 AM
Dude its only 30 PA frags for dus majarra OMG i wants

pikachief
Aug 10, 2007, 07:47 AM
im sad that the girls ride it like a broom http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

oh well my beast would probably break it anyways XD

Xaeris
Aug 10, 2007, 11:40 AM
I think the girls have a pretty nice animation for it actually. Heck, if I had the PA space to slot, I'd have my fT learn it for the lulz of riding around like a witch on a broomstick.

Zorafim
Aug 10, 2007, 12:48 PM
That... That's actually not a bad idea.

Kent
Aug 10, 2007, 01:29 PM
On 2007-08-09 18:10, Xaeris wrote:
Zalure? On a...card? The logic of behind this bullet is especially elusive. Is it Lv 4 or something...?



...Acrofighter?

Gryffin
Aug 10, 2007, 01:34 PM
Dude, girls ride it like a broom?!

My CAST will LOVE this. It makes the most sense in the world, people who know her, understand http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

chibiLegolas
Aug 10, 2007, 01:40 PM
Hmmm...
I'm curious about Mayalee shot (rifle) - 50 - sleep .
Sleep can still be useful IF they let it stick on large enemies at 21+.
Or I guess sleep + virus/burn would be nice too. Depends on the SE of sleep I suppose.
But yea, most ppl would just wake them back up. Hmm....

Para
Aug 10, 2007, 01:44 PM
The quality of the video makes me lol

TheBlackDeath
Aug 10, 2007, 02:15 PM
On 2007-08-10 05:47, pikachief wrote:
im sad that the girls ride it like a broom http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

oh well my beast would probably break it anyways XD


XD LOL I can see it now. Kitty faces the same 3 pannons and as your character jumps on the spear it takes a HEAVY dip towards the ground and then snaps in half with the pointy end impaling a poor pannon while you're skidding on the ground steamrolling over the other two.

Edit: Oops forgot to mention that after that it would come up with a message onscreen that says "Weapon has been broken beyond repair".


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pikachief
Aug 10, 2007, 02:21 PM
On 2007-08-10 12:15, TheBlackDeath wrote:

On 2007-08-10 05:47, pikachief wrote:
im sad that the girls ride it like a broom http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

oh well my beast would probably break it anyways XD


XD LOL I can see it now. Kitty faces the same 3 pannons and as your character jumps on the spear it takes a HEAVY dip towards the ground and then snaps in half with the pointy end impaling a poor pannon while you're skidding on the ground steamrolling over the other two.



yea i know! she wont even get to move on it it would jsut instantly snap XD

Zorafim
Aug 10, 2007, 02:45 PM
Card with zalure makes a bit of sense, if you use it with a wand with the other two debuffs. I think normal elemental card and Jellen/Zalure set would be best, though.

Gen2000
Aug 10, 2007, 04:06 PM
Sleep SE seem like it will always suck in a party situtation, especially with Gravity Break melees in party.

Gunner: "Hey gais let me put those big monsters to sleep then we can take care of those troublesome Bardia."
GB Melees: *5 melees are PA spamming Gravity Break creating a typhoon of pwn that rips Bardia mob with the big monster types in 2 seconds* "Huh, you say something?" "Sleep? GTFO with that ****. You're slowing us down."
*boots*
*Another player join*
GB Melees: "You melee?"
Newcomer: "Yes"
GB Melees: "Gravity Break mutha? Do you have it?!"
Newcomer: "lv.30"
GB Melees: "Sweet."

Gravity Break = revival of "Hunters(Fortefighters) are kings" mentality.

Mayu
Aug 10, 2007, 04:08 PM
Can't really spam Gravity break -.-

You will waste 10 PP charges in a matter of mins at like 21 http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Allison_W
Aug 10, 2007, 04:13 PM
On 2007-08-10 05:47, pikachief wrote:
im sad that the girls ride it like a broom http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

Aww, SUCK.

Why you gots ta be tryin' ta femme up my perfectly good butch badass, Sega?!

Gen2000
Aug 10, 2007, 04:17 PM
People will find a way. There are already some melees who carry like 30+ weapons just for PA spamming a single type. With the ATP mod of GB at lv.30, it will actually be effective and a little less ridiculous now though.



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Mayu
Aug 10, 2007, 04:19 PM
Thats not going to last even if you bring 30+ Swords -.-

A Caliburn has 345 PP? Oh w/e someone clear it up

Gravity 21 - mmm 72 PP? w/e

So I would say it's spam able in boss fights or short missions http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

But not long ones http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif unless you have a ''GOD'' Group -.-

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Allison_W
Aug 10, 2007, 04:22 PM
Is it just me, or are Svaltus Swords with their sick PP gonna get hella popular?

Mayu
Aug 10, 2007, 04:23 PM
hmmm Good point

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Realmz
Aug 10, 2007, 04:46 PM
hmm is Gravity breask base cost 25 or 31?

either way to use it i'd use a skill save for it lower cost to 18-15PP a swing http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Mayu
Aug 10, 2007, 04:58 PM
oooo <.<

I could go farm one http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

It will cut the damage by a little but spam more http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

and Level 1 is like 32 http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif PP cost



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Lyrise
Aug 10, 2007, 05:20 PM
On 2007-08-09 20:32, AxelgearVII wrote:

On 2007-08-09 18:03, Zael wrote:
I still want to know if the Piercing PAs can hit the same monster multiple times if it has two target points.



Yes it does. It hits all points within range.



True at face value. It hits all points within range, but if you notice, it will not mark the same enemy twice, regardless of multiple targeting points. So no, this will not decimate bosses, it's like a weaker faster laser cannon.

Mayu
Aug 10, 2007, 05:23 PM
Ouch not marking twice

Siertes
Aug 10, 2007, 05:25 PM
On 2007-08-10 15:20, Lyrise wrote:

True at face value. It hits all points within range, but if you notice, it will not mark the same enemy twice, regardless of multiple targeting points. So no, this will not decimate bosses, it's like a weaker faster laser cannon.



Aww man! So much for that PA. Guess I'll still get it though.

Lyrise
Aug 10, 2007, 05:26 PM
Despite the rather low Attack mod, it's a pretty good way to rip through large mobs.

Gen2000
Aug 10, 2007, 05:30 PM
Going by jp psuwiki
Name - PP - ATP
Ascaud +1 - 385PP - 448ATP at +1.
+5 - 406PP - 538ATP
+10 - 451PP - 618ATP
^6* Yohemi sword mentioned before.

Caliburn +1 - 346PP - 739ATP.
+5 - 377PP - 770ATP
+10 - ???PP - 837ATP.
*Doesn't have PP info but ATP info (odd).

Svatlus Sword +0 - 550PP - 791ATP

Gravity Break base count is reported as 25PP for Combo 1 (it's in a pic from previous post anyways and no info on the others yet at the moment of course). Going by psupedia Yohemi types have a PP recharge rate of 5 compared to 3 (GRM) and 2(Tenora). Kubara type recharge rates are never set in stone it seems.

It will be interesting once it the PA hits U.S. side and how they players take advantage of it. (remembers the early days of Killer Shot/Yak Zagenga).

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