No exception to NOT make a Ranged PM now!

[PALRAPPYS]

De Ragan's Breath
30 meseta
+10 ranged
4*


You know, 300 meseta for a level is pretty good, no?

A total of 30,000 meseta is what you pay right now using those Ragan traps. So if you don't have a ranged PM--you have NO exception to! Unless you're REALLY poor...

[pikachief]

who cant get S ranking on 3 HSM runs?

[DreamLocke]

No excuse. 3 HSM runs at S rank will fund your shiny new ranged PM.

[Slace2k3]

lol thats funny I just started to make one too.

[Siertes]

Well if someone already has three Pure PMs (Strike, Tech, Armor) and their fourth character is dedicated to recreation for whatever reason (Grinding, for fun) then I would accept that as an excuse.

[pikachief]

yay no more using my friends PM for guns! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[PALRAPPYS]

Haha, well still why not make one? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

It's only 3 HSM runs as some people said. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[DreamLocke]

Since a new population surge of ranged PM's is bound to happen, maybe the prices in the player shops will ease up on ranged weapons. Maybe not...

[JAFO22000]

On 2007-08-10 12:21, Siertes wrote:
Well if someone already has three Pure PMs (Strike, Tech, Armor) and their fourth character is dedicated to recreation for whatever reason (Grinding, for fun) then I would accept that as an excuse.



How about it you already have a friend with a range PM and you have striking, tech and armor PM's and want a 420 for your character in the fourth slot, only you haven't started that character yet because you're waiting for AoI so you can start a character from scratch on that version and your friend with the range PM isn't leaving the game for awhile?

[Dragwind]

On 2007-08-10 12:51, JAFO22000 wrote:

On 2007-08-10 12:21, Siertes wrote:
Well if someone already has three Pure PMs (Strike, Tech, Armor) and their fourth character is dedicated to recreation for whatever reason (Grinding, for fun) then I would accept that as an excuse.



How about it you already have a friend with a range PM and you have striking, tech and armor PM's and want a 420 for your character in the fourth slot, only you haven't started that character yet because you're waiting for AoI so you can start a character from scratch on that version and your friend with the range PM isn't leaving the game for awhile?



Those are exactly both my excuses, lol. I'm sure I'm not the only one who uses the last slot for jokes and such >_>;;;

[DonRoyale]

*nosebleed*

I swear, I've died and gone to heaven. Level 50 for the new mission on S2 and now this?

*needs on PSU*

[ACH]

I'm seriously considering Zeroing my Strike 1 Ranged 99 PM for a Ranged 100 PM now, just because it bugs me so much.

[Deus-Irae]

cool. thanks for the heads up.

sounds cheap!

[Para]

yeah I was told by dragwind to make one now lol. I guess I'll have to decide on my next character now o_o

[McLaughlin]

On 2007-08-10 12:17, PALRAPPYS wrote:
De Ragan's Breath
30 meseta
+10 ranged
4*


You know, 300 meseta for a level is pretty good, no?

A total of 30,000 meseta is what you pay right now using those Ragan traps.


You did the math wrong, I think. It only costs 21,000 meseta.

900 meseta per stack, times 3 and a third = 2,100 every 10 levels.

2,100 times 10 feedings = 21,000 meseta.

...I think.

[SolomonGrundy]

what do these new traps DO, and where do you get them?

[PALRAPPYS]

On 2007-08-10 14:48, Obsidian_Knight wrote:

On 2007-08-10 12:17, PALRAPPYS wrote:
De Ragan's Breath
30 meseta
+10 ranged
4*


You know, 300 meseta for a level is pretty good, no?

A total of 30,000 meseta is what you pay right now using those Ragan traps.


You did the math wrong, I think. It only costs 21,000 meseta.

900 meseta per stack, times 3 and a third = 2,100 every 10 levels.

2,100 times 10 feedings = 21,000 meseta.

...I think.



The I think part is correct.

900 x 3 = 2,700 + (1/3=300) 300 = 3,000.

I did it right. Saving 9k would be nice, but, no, I did it right.

[DreamLocke]

I bought a stack this morning when I was buying photon charges.

I only tried one out right before I went to work this morning and it looks like a small Roman Candle firework. I didn't see if it did any damage...it acts like a G trap. Sorry I couldn't help you any more...these things are just PM food as far as I'm concerned.

[McLaughlin]

On 2007-08-10 15:04, PALRAPPYS wrote:

On 2007-08-10 14:48, Obsidian_Knight wrote:

On 2007-08-10 12:17, PALRAPPYS wrote:
De Ragan's Breath
30 meseta
+10 ranged
4*


You know, 300 meseta for a level is pretty good, no?

A total of 30,000 meseta is what you pay right now using those Ragan traps.


You did the math wrong, I think. It only costs 21,000 meseta.

900 meseta per stack, times 3 and a third = 2,100 every 10 levels.

2,100 times 10 feedings = 21,000 meseta.

...I think.



The I think part is correct.

900 x 3 = 2,700 + (1/3=300) 300 = 3,000.

I did it right. Saving 9k would be nice, but, no, I did it right.



Yeah, I was only multiplying by two, instead of three.

Allergy medication makes me tired. ;_;

[KidoKresh]

Is 21,000 correct? idk if im doing it wrong(cuz i haven't gotten online so i don't know how many to feed it for 10 lvls... just taking info from somone else.)but wouldn't it be...

30meseta x 30storage = 900Meseta x 3feeding = 2,700meseta x 10feeding till lvl 100 = 27,000meseta?

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[ljkkjlcm9]

I've never had a pure PM, and I don't exactly care to make one, that's a good enough excuse for me. Honestly, the % chance to synth is BS, as I tried to make 6 crimsonlines all with 33% chance, so 2 should work, none did. tried 2 cugo mamba with 25%, both worked.

not to mention S ranks with 75/85% that fail on friends pure PMs... it's really not very accurate

THE JACKEL

[PALRAPPYS]

On 2007-08-10 15:51, ljkkjlcm9 wrote:
I've never had a pure PM, and I don't exactly care to make one, that's a good enough excuse for me. Honestly, the % chance to synth is BS, as I tried to make 6 crimsonlines all with 33% chance, so 2 should work, none did. tried 2 cugo mamba with 25%, both worked.

not to mention S ranks with 75/85% that fail on friends pure PMs... it's really not very accurate

THE JACKEL



You're right, but it's still always better to have a higher percent. It's all luck, but I made a quick mock-up picture in Paint to show probably how synthing works.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d19/StarTog/SynthingPSU.jpg

Every time a synth starts, the little blue marker goes from right to left to right to left and so forth, until it lands somewhere on the bar. If it lands on the green area, the synth is a success. The red, it's a failure. Regardless, unless an item has 100%, the red area will still be there, and the blue marker can land on it. If your PM has 0 ranged as shown in the second picture, it has a smaller success area. Although, judging by where it landed, if the Ranged level were higher, the blue marker would have reached the green area (as the 1st bar shows) and had made a success.

Of course, this is all speculation but I'm sure the system works similar, and thus, why not have a higher level of what you want?

[Sasamichan]

Nice way to explain your theory, PALRAPPYS. Thats how I think it works.

[Raven5_1]

i could make an alt to make a ranged pm but the problem is i only have 4 slots and there is no confirmation that AOI gives anyone outside of japans servers extra slots. what this means is, until told otherwise i only have one spare slot as i have 2 active chars and one slot is reserved for the human male i'm making for AOI.

This means i currently only have one slot to make either, a female human force, a male cast based on the kireek/hound style body, a second female cast based on my pso char nightbird, a beast male, or a beast female

as you can see i'm afraid to go create a char and create the pm only to have to erase it later as i decide i must have that slot for another race and while its seemingly relatively cheap to make the pm dont have much in the way of mesta and i dont want to spam HSM forever

[Mystil]

On 2007-08-10 14:59, SolomonGrundy wrote:
what do these new traps DO, and where do you get them?



It's just a "trap" you lay down on the ground and it goes off like a fire cracker. Does nothing but that.

[perfectminute]

Damn!! Why'd you tell them! Now my ranged PM wont be worth as much... I also just got my PM to 50 using g traps... in the past week. 200k down the drain.

[Wallin]

Is this trap a limited time thing with some sort of event, or are they permanently in the game and for that price?

And I'm not making a ranged PM because I already have a 90 technic, pure armor, and am raising a striking PM, and my last character slot is my shop that I'm keeping at 0 so that I don't have to worry about hackers zeroing it (money isn't a problem obviously, but I have WAY better things to do than re-feed it 1,000 traps over the course of 5-10 days if it does get zero'd). So I'll just stock up on the traps now and hope that the expansion gives more character slots, or figure something else out later.

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[DonRoyale]

That's what I'd like to know as well. Are De Ragan's Breath a permanent store item, or just until the Neudaiz Lobby is over?

[Mystil]

Until the theme is over.

[DreamLocke]

buy 'em up, guys!!!! Here come the army of GH-430's ready to take over the Gurhal system....

[Sekani]

My excuse is that I'm not wasting a perfectly good character slot on a PM. Also since ranged weapons don't have elements there's little value in synthing my own.

[PALRAPPYS]

Lots of you actually have decent reasons, but... why not stock up on Ragan traps for later in AoI? I mean, just a suggestion, but if you want a cheap Ranged PM, I suggest saving meseta by buying the traps now.

Well, up to you regardless.

[Otis_Kat]

For anyone wondering about the math.

100 points for PM level
Trap gives 10
Trap costs 30 meseta
30x10 = 300 meseta for one level
300 x 100 = 30,000 meseta

12 levels per feeding
100 Range PM in 9 feedings
4 days exactly to raise it if you feed every 12 hours.

[DreamLocke]

^ ^ fast and quick. Crap, I might just reset my armor PM for a ranged one and just make an armor PM when AoI fixes the armor synth rates...

Edit: Never mind; I'm not going through the hell of making another armor PM. The ranged PM will go on my third guy.

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[Eureka]

I reset my impure range machine because of this >.>
When its done, I will have the perfect team of PMs that make make whatever weapons I want. Not making an armor PM right now. Armor is too costly to attempt making. But I will say that it will be cheaper this time around compared to the first time. Sure...wasted the money...but at least now its much easier for me to make it back.

[BigBadWolf]

Yes, my dreams of leveling a Newman Guntecher will finally come true T_T

[Wallin]

On 2007-08-10 19:28, PALRAPPYS wrote:
Lots of you actually have decent reasons, but... why not stock up on Ragan traps for later in AoI? I mean, just a suggestion, but if you want a cheap Ranged PM, I suggest saving meseta by buying the traps now.

Well, up to you regardless.



I've thrown a bunch of sets in my player shop actually. I'm actually wondering if I should buy enough to make multiple pure ranged or hybrid PMs in case we do get 4 more character slots in AoI, then my alts will have PMs to hunt with. 120k for 4 more level 100 PMs (actually you would only need to get them to 80, even cheaper) is still less than the cost it will take to make a single 100 PM when the deal is over.