weapon prices v.v

[DurakkenX]

Weapon prices make no sense...

Let's take a 9* saber, if you take it's base ATP/PP
595/270
and then look at it's +10 grinded
672/352
That's a 13%-20%(depending upon ele) and 30% boost respectively.

Now if you take a weapon that's below 20% elemental then you aren't going to sell it for a regular price a lot of time so why should a +10 millions of times more than a base level one? Because you grinded it? Last time i looked most of you were against ONLY 13% increases so it's kinda dumb to ask for so much for so little...

Also it should be noted that a +10/50% is actually 70% stronger ATP wise and 30% stronger PP wise. So while it would make sense if you had both maxed, it makes none when you only have the +10...Of course then again with guns and wands that PP boost is great, but it's still crazy to think that a weapon should be 20mil or so just because it is a +10.

And don't say it's cuz they are equal to 11* rares because rares themself are only extensions of the basic *lvl pattern and as such should follow the same basic pricing... meaning 11* rares are only about 750k and 10* rares are about 500k when you look at how the prices are.

[Mayu]

To make a +10 weapon

Usually cost 10-15 mill

Due to breaking about mmm 32+ of them

[perfectminute]

Ya... Face it, its how things work

[DurakkenX]

It doesn't matter how much it takes to make them... The prices for grinders themselves are dumb v.v 750k for a +10 grinder, yeah that's good...

The fact is that 13% isn't worth according to most people so why should it cost so much more when it is so low? Use reason people.

[Mortisx3]

Bottomline: supply and demand

[Mayu]

It doesn't matter? Lol.... I'll do the math for melee weapons

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Someone can do Ranged or Techs w/e http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

An average 32 Melee weapons can be 5-15 MILL
Depends really if you have the photon so you don't have to buy retarded prices
Along with if you have 32 boards

In making a +10

I guarantee you 3/4 of them will break around +8

Seriosly, YOU can try making one and tell us -.-

Because I've done it -.-

Oh and I don't actually buy grinders from people

I make them




<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Ryuugu-Rena on 2007-08-14 15:24 ]</font>

[McLaughlin]

On 2007-08-14 15:02, DurakkenX wrote:
Weapon prices make no sense...

Let's take a 9* saber, if you take it's base ATP/PP
595/270
and then look at it's +10 grinded
672/352
That's a 13%-20%(depending upon ele)


How do two fixed numbers equal a varied increase?

The +10 Buccaneer is 12.9% stronger (ATP wise) than a +0 Buccaneer. They're fixed numbers, so it's a fixed increase. >_>

[Golto]

Lol who is buying a +10 ginders for 750k? 125k-150k at most.

Like Ryuugu-Rena stated it takes millions and millions on average to get 1 a rank weapon to +10. Why would someone sell something that took so much money to make and sell it for a loss?

[DurakkenX]

My point is that it's only 13% increase which to everyone doesn't buy in most cases...it shouldn't be worth a few mil no matter how you look at it.

[perfectminute]

People want to be the best they can... Even if its only by a few damage. And they cost so much because people buy them for that much!

[Para]

Face it Dura,

its not easy making +10 weapons nor is it easy to be lucky and land yourself with high % weapons all the time to grind and most likely break during the process of grinding. Nor is it easy to get +10 grinders http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

In the end, I guess its all about luck and when everyone's luck is pretty shitty, expect high prices.

Of course... there is the other factor with a good majority of players desiring "perfection" or to be elite thus high demand and high prices.

[Mayu]

Our point is that

IT COST US 10-15 MILL


And people do buy them -.-

[Miyoko]

Don't forget that you'll be able to use a 10+ 9* (sometimes consierably) earlier than a 10* item of equal power (if at all, even, since some types never -get- S-ranks of desired weapons)

[Hath_Wrobo]

Have you taken a look at player shops recently? I think we can all conclude that a lot of people on PSU aren't that bright. Having people see the (10) is worth it I suppose. Probably the same reason why so many people really want the S-rank weapons, even though they are marginally better than 9* in which you can grind to actually be better than the S-ranks. Also, even though elemental % could be better, having a (10) weapon will always be better in raw power, as it is not based on the element of the enemy.

[Mortisx3]

If people keep buying it for outrageous prices then people will keep selling it for outrageous prices

[Umberger]

On 2007-08-14 15:02, DurakkenX wrote:
And don't say it's cuz they are equal to 11* rares because rares themself are only extensions of the basic *lvl pattern and as such should follow the same basic pricing... meaning 11* rares are only about 750k and 10* rares are about 500k when you look at how the prices are.



Ignoring the fact that 11* weapons can only be found from boss boxes and only have one synth attempt, compared to the 9* weapons which you can buy in stores (as well as their materials) and get three synth attempts.

Right.

[HaydenX]

I don't get what people are saying about a+10 going for 750k...I'm selling mine for 139k and have been for nearly 2 weeks....not yet has there been a buyer...so either ST decided that my shop should be invisible, or that is an exaggeration.

[ZeL_of_Seals]

I hate people who think that because a weapon has a high percentage or is grinded that they can sell it for MILLIONS

[Mayu]

It actually can http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

I've done it several times -.-

and I'm sure others have had as well

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50% A Type Muktrand - Mukgrands go for insane amounts hehe http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Ice goes to about 50-60 Mill

And it does sell http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif