ST should take pointers from DMC and NG on PAs

[ShinMaruku]

Make them like DT moves and UTs and we have pure gold.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxRTGrnaCgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFCfxGJ_s34
ST that's how you do it.
Or am I insane

[HFlowen]

Sega needs help in more ways than one.



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[ShadowDragon28]

Sorry PSU wasn't really meant for solo play or solo-based ultra-flashy "massive pwn'age."

While those Ninja Gaiden Sigma and Devil May Cry 3 moves are really spiffy, having 5 or 6 players performing those would cause Uber-Slow Down; and it would be *worse* than what already happens with a full team spamming PA's and "ultimate" PA's.

[Zorafim]

Those were terrible. I think I'd quit PSU if our combat was like that. It's bad enough with most our PA fragment PAs (Tornado Dance especially), but at least they're somewhat based on actual combat. It doesn't look like the art directors of those games knew anything about combat.

By the way, was that Dante? I thought he'd be less stereotypical than that.



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[ShinMaruku]

Those moves are based on combat, they just seem outrageous but challenge those mother fuckers. You'll see UTs and million stab make sense.

[Chuck_Norris]

I gotta say, PSU would be a lot more fun if sega could make at least half that stuff happen. Or at least being able to swich weapons on the fly, Like do anga dugrega and swiching when your in the air to a sword and do the last hit of spinning break. THAT would be cool.

[Realmz]

it's actually kind of cool, as a WT to use a Gi spell, then go into the second and third combos of Dus Robado..

only thing i'd want would be to Curb Stomp mobs that are on the ground.


damned go vahras...

[ShinMaruku]

On 2007-08-17 14:05, chuck_norris wrote:
I gotta say, PSU would be a lot more fun if sega could make at least half that stuff happen. Or at least being able to swich weapons on the fly, Like do anga dugrega and swiching when your in the air to a sword and do the last hit of spinning break. THAT would be cool.


That's what I was hintin at. having changble PAs that resemble that don't have to be that broke type shit.

[SATatami]

I don't see why the Switch Weapon button can't be available to switch to an alt PA, for two handed weapons. It'd give that button a use for 2h weapons. >_>

[ShinMaruku]

ST has no sense.

[HFlowen]

On 2007-08-17 14:10, Realmz wrote:
it's actually kind of cool, as a WT to use a Gi spell, then go into the second and third combos of Dus Robado..

only thing i'd want would be to Curb Stomp mobs that are on the ground.


damned go vahras...

You can actually do this with the right ammount of timing and lag.

[SATatami]

On 2007-08-17 15:49, ShinMaruku wrote:
ST has no sense.



Well, I have a few points to comment on.

(1. Where have you been for the past ten years? You would've known they had no sense long ago.
(2. PSU is mainly based on actual combat, not fictious John Woo-esque stuff. All of the non-PA actions are actions someone could do in real life. If you want John Woo, go play something else, cuz this will never be that.
(3. Instead of complaining about why SEGA isn't tailoring the game to find YOUR specific wants, why not do something more productive, such as patching PC DMC3 so that you can play it online? Hehehe...



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[Chuck_Norris]

On 2007-08-17 15:59, SATatami wrote:
(2. PSU is mainly based on actual combat, not fictious John Woo-esque stuff. All of the non-PA actions are actions someone could do in real life. If you want John Woo, go play something else, cuz this will never be that.

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Well some are, But most of them don't make much sence, Take the fighting stance of the sword, You never want to hold you're weapon behind you, It leaves you right open, Same goes for the axe. Also, There has never been a real weapon like the claws outside movies and video games, The closest thing anyone has ever made is putting tiger claws on you're fists and using them as brass knuckles.

[SATatami]

On 2007-08-17 16:23, chuck_norris wrote:

On 2007-08-17 15:59, SATatami wrote:
(2. PSU is mainly based on actual combat, not fictious John Woo-esque stuff. All of the non-PA actions are actions someone could do in real life. If you want John Woo, go play something else, cuz this will never be that.

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Well some are, But most of them don't make much sence, Take the fighting stance of the sword, You never want to hold you're weapon behind you, It leaves you right open, Same goes for the axe. Also, There has never been a real weapon like the claws outside movies and video games, The closest thing anyone has ever made is putting tiger claws on you're fists and using them as brass knuckles.



I said COULD do, not "would want to do." I certainly wouldn't hold my sword like that, unless I was ubercocky and wanted them to think my defenses were down, or whatever.


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[SATatami]

Hit quote instead of edit... -.-;

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[McLaughlin]

No. I don't play DMC for a reason. (Well, several, but that's beside the point.}

[Zorafim]

On 2007-08-17 16:23, chuck_norris wrote:
Well some are, But most of them don't make much sence, Take the fighting stance of the sword, You never want to hold you're weapon behind you, It leaves you right open, Same goes for the axe.

I also doubt that anyone holds their weapons on their sides while fighting, ala most twin/single weapons. The only passable fighting stance would probably be lance, possibly fists if you were cocky.

[PJ]

lol ST has no sense

That's so funny. Just, fucking hilarious. Are you comedians?

Fucking hilarious. Hoo boy, can't stop giggling. I'm like, losing consiousness, it's so funny. Haha, hoooo...

[Zorafim]

That, erm... That sounded kind of forced, PJ.

[HFlowen]

This is what i was talking about in my first post if anyone is interested.

http://www.businessweek.com/innovate/content/aug2007/id20070813_964132.htm

[PJ]

On 2007-08-17 17:02, Zorafim wrote:
That, erm... That sounded kind of forced, PJ.



I guess http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

[SATatami]

Hulk+ Sega= possible win?

[HFlowen]

On 2007-08-17 17:17, SATatami wrote:
Hulk+ Sega= possible win?

I'm not confident. Unless those movies are huge hits (and personally, I'm getting tired of comic book movies), then SEGA and it's subsidiaries are gonna be in trouble.

[ShinMaruku]

On 2007-08-17 15:59, SATatami wrote:

On 2007-08-17 15:49, ShinMaruku wrote:
ST has no sense.



Well, I have a few points to comment on.

(1. Where have you been for the past ten years? You would've known they had no sense long ago.
(2. PSU is mainly based on actual combat, not fictious John Woo-esque stuff. All of the non-PA actions are actions someone could do in real life. If you want John Woo, go play something else, cuz this will never be that.
(3. Instead of complaining about why SEGA isn't tailoring the game to find YOUR specific wants, why not do something more productive, such as patching PC DMC3 so that you can play it online? Hehehe...



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I always advocated liquidating ST.
You think I just want that stuff transplanted to PSU, hardly that.
Just some of the ideas from that can be put in it. Like you have a preset weapon thing and with one button real time weapon change and other things.

[Zorafim]

Wasn't a hulk movie already made?

[PALRAPPYS]

On 2007-08-17 15:59, HFlowen wrote:

On 2007-08-17 14:10, Realmz wrote:
it's actually kind of cool, as a WT to use a Gi spell, then go into the second and third combos of Dus Robado..

only thing i'd want would be to Curb Stomp mobs that are on the ground.


damned go vahras...

You can actually do this with the right ammount of timing and lag.



I would love to curb stomp a vahra.

*Hacks Vahra into Gears of War as a Multiplayer Locust character*

Ah, now just down him! X button and simple as that!

[HFlowen]

On 2007-08-17 18:51, Zorafim wrote:
Wasn't a hulk movie already made?

Yep, and spoilers.

It sucked

[Omega_Weltall]

on topic... NO!
Devil May Cry is Devil May Cry.
Ninja Gaiden is Ninja Gaiden.
why cant PSU have its OWN style? why must every other game be like every other game?
OH god forbid a game be diffrent

[Zorafim]

On 2007-08-17 19:56, Omega_Weltall wrote:
why cant PSU have its OWN style? why must every other

They gave it space-elves, robots that kinda feel but not really, and Hispanic gangs. I think they did this to themselves.

[Chuck_Norris]

On 2007-08-17 19:58, Zorafim wrote:

On 2007-08-17 19:56, Omega_Weltall wrote:
why cant PSU have its OWN style? why must every other

They gave it space-elves, robots that kinda feel but not really, and Hispanic gangs. I think they did this to themselves.



Don't forget the story, Hothead joins a army type group, Becomes the best out there, Gets cought up in a save the world thing and ends up being a hero.
How many times have we seen THAT?


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[Zorafim]

Well, nobody says that he became the best. Apparently he became pretty good, and capable of doing amazing things for no reason, but nobody said he was the best.

[Chuck_Norris]

Well you get my point, A lot of stuff in this game is totally generic.

[Omega_Weltall]

true...

[Zorafim]

Yup, that's one of my gripes. This has to be the least artistic Phantasy Star I've played. Then again, Sega's been going "safe" lately due to heavy competition, so I can't really blame them.

[BahnKnakyu]

Eh? Devil May Cry, terrible? DMC3 has gotten ports to several platforms, and it has solid, solid gameplay. A few of the PAs loosely resemble DMC3 moves (Splendor Crush's last hit comes to mind). I would like over the top moves like in DMC3, but if you get that kinda comboability, they better up the game's difficulty rating to compensate.

[ShadowDragon28]

Why does every other thread on pso-world in PSU general turn into a "let's bash Sonic Team" or "let's bash Sega" thread?

Someone tell me, is this pso-world's PSU General Forum or "Bash Sega Forum" ?
Last I checked this isn't 4Chan or GameFaqs...

[Realmz]

On 2007-08-17 21:31, ShadowDragon28 wrote:
Why does every other thread on pso-world in PSU general turn into a "let's bash Sonic Team" or "let's bash Sega" thread?

Someone tell me, is this pso-world's PSU General Forum or "Bash Sega Forum" ?
Last I checked this isn't 4Chan or GameFaqs...





gb2/v/

[ShinMaruku]

ST sucks ass not Sega, Sega got wise but ST, let's be honest they aren't very good.

[ShadowDragon28]

The why do bother playing PSU then?

If "ST sucks ass" then I guess Firebreak was just an illusion, compensation for what some script kiddie did to players PM and stolen items was just made-up, and there must of never been any Updates, no maintanence of the servers ever,
and the GM's never ever gave out free items like the Sonic Statue, despite greedy, obnoxius text spamming kiddies. Yeah they really suck *sacrasm* *rolls eyes*

/v/ is stupid and inane. How about, no.





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[D1ABOLIK]

On 2007-08-17 15:59, SATatami wrote:

On 2007-08-17 15:49, ShinMaruku wrote:
ST has no sense.




PSU is mainly based on actual combat, not fictious John Woo-esque stuff.

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riiiiiiiiiiiiggghhht.Sure it is.

[Zorafim]

Fact: Admitting that a company's newer products are subpar to their older products automatically means there is no use in using their current products.



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[ShinMaruku]

On 2007-08-17 23:00, ShadowDragon28 wrote:
The why do bother playing PSU then?

If "ST sucks ass" then I guess Firebreak was just an illusion, compensation for what some script kiddie did to players PM and stolen items was just made-up, and there must of never been any Updates, no maintanence of the servers ever,
and the GM's never ever gave out free items like the Sonic Statue, despite greedy, obnoxius text spamming kiddies. Yeah they really suck *sacrasm* *rolls eyes*

/v/ is stupid and inane. How about, no.





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These updates are likely unlock dates and that server maintainance is something they are supposed to do if they are to be applauded for that,then somthing is very wrong.

And ST does suck ass you seen Sonic the Hedgehog? That was steaming unadulterated shit!
Maybe the PSU team is the good portion on the team, but I said ST sucks ass the game is decent but could be better but the devs are not motivated.

[Zer0_ConvoY]

On 2007-08-17 16:26, SATatami wrote:

On 2007-08-17 16:23, chuck_norris wrote:

On 2007-08-17 15:59, SATatami wrote:
(2. PSU is mainly based on actual combat, not fictious John Woo-esque stuff. All of the non-PA actions are actions someone could do in real life. If you want John Woo, go play something else, cuz this will never be that.

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Well some are, But most of them don't make much sence, Take the fighting stance of the sword, You never want to hold you're weapon behind you, It leaves you right open, Same goes for the axe. Also, There has never been a real weapon like the claws outside movies and video games, The closest thing anyone has ever made is putting tiger claws on you're fists and using them as brass knuckles.



I said COULD do, not "would want to do." I certainly wouldn't hold my sword like that, unless I was ubercocky and wanted them to think my defenses were down, or whatever.


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actually if you used a european style sword (roman/medieval european in particular) you honestly would not want that sucker in front of you, they were heavy(putting you off balance), they were not very sharp, you needed to swing those to do damage, if you tried a rapier thrust or katana slash with those swords you would quickly be killed after doing so since you would do minimal damage and not be in a position to attack again, just look at link, espically in SSB and SC2.



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[ShadowDragon28]

Wow... ST "sux" cause of Sonic...I don't even know where to begin.. whatever...
http://images.naffiss.com/kitty/wtfdoocat.jpg

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[ShadowDragon28]

On 2007-08-17 23:34, Zorafim wrote:
Fact: Admitting that a company's newer products are subpar to their older products automatically means there is no use in using their current products.



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If the product is "subpar" why even bother using it at all? Typically people don't care to use "subpar" products if there's a better product; especially if it costs the same.

[Mwabwetumba]

On 2007-08-17 16:23, chuck_norris wrote:
Take the fighting stance of the sword, You never want to hold you're weapon behind you, It leaves you right open, Same goes for the axe.



Let's not forget that those two weapon classes appear to be grossly overweight when compared to their 'historical counterparts'. Also, the short handle of the sword just doesn't make sense given the length of the blade since swords of that length are eminently suited for thrusting which is counter-acted by the ungenerous handle.
And finally, let's not forget that it's a game. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

Edit: Typos ahoy.
Edit 2: Oh, and as for the question at hand... I say No, I'm happy with what we've got and what we've got coming for us.




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