holy crud! lv 120 zamvapas!

[Ffuzzy-Logik]

It drops [B] Deva-zashi.

Yes, really.

[DragonStorm]

http://www.pso-world.com/beastiary/psu/1/60/zamvapas/

Im very curious to know what a lv 120 will drop. it even passes the 10* because 10* is 100-119...this may be interesting...i cant wait to challenge this beast XD

[DragonStorm]

u mean it wont drop anything new?
where did you find this info?


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[Ffuzzy-Logik]

No, the De Ragnus party mission won't have any new drops.

HIV S2, however, will have plenty.

[DragonStorm]

that's weird...its the first time a zamvapas has ever reached lv 100...and has passed even 119...its stupid to give it a 10* board...just doesnt make sense.

[mvffin]

it doesn't make sense according to most enemy patterns, but many enemies defy those patterns. unfortunately, this is one of those cases.

[Ffuzzy-Logik]

Uh, the whole "100-119" thing was always just an assumption, and is probably wrong. Maybe monsters will never drop 11 and 12* boards the way they do 10* ones. We simply just don't know yet.

[DragonStorm]

dammit sega get creative for once >.> when on earth are we ever getting 12* weps like ragan ragan or 12* daggers...o well now i gotta gain 13 more levels to do Hive S2 http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif so many S ranks tho.

[DragonStorm]

just curious how do u know zamvapas will drop this item? it doesnt show what it even drops yet? or is there a japan site that had this info.

[Ffuzzy-Logik]

When? Probably from new enemies in AoI, or possibly from enemies level 150+, or possibly from events, or possibly from something no one expects. Wait and find out.

I don't understand the rush. 10* weapons are ridiculously fucking rare enough.


On 2007-08-29 22:46, DragonStorm wrote:
just curious how do u know zamvapas will drop this item? it doesnt show what it even drops yet? or is there a japan site that had this info.

You know, POSW here isn't the only PSU site in existence. The JP-wiki has this drop, and we've had it listed on PSUPedia since like the day after the JP-wiki put it up.

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[DragonStorm]

ah ic. well thx for ur help...sucks tho would of been nice to see a new S rank..especially zamvapas which is a sweet monster. it should just drop a doublecannon or somethin lol.

[CelestialBlade]

Not that S-rank weapons are worth it in the first place, until we get S-grinders or something. Meh!

I'm more interested in the sheer amounts of pain this lv. 120 Zamvapas can dish out. The one in Holy Grounds S2 is bad enough if you really piss him off....

[Ffuzzy-Logik]

No, it shouldn't. Double Cannon is like equipping a big flag that says HAY EVERY1 LOOK @ ME AND MY HAXED WEAPON ROFL. In other words, it's a lot like a Rucar.

[SaiSpagS]

Nuts, the lvl 85 in the Relics is a bitch enough, a fun fight though, I always liked that creature. And 120 is pretty high, especially as we don't have the 100 cap as jpn did.

And Monsters probably won't be dropping 11* boards for awhile, the 10*s are rare enough, and most 11*s are boss drops.

[radical_ryan]

u all need 2 look at the psu item database xD

all yea im back http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif


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[Esufer]

On 2007-08-29 22:54, Ffuzzy-Logik wrote:
No, it shouldn't. Double Cannon is like equipping a big flag that says HAY EVERY1 LOOK @ ME AND MY HAXED WEAPON ROFL. In other words, it's a lot like a Rucar.


I remember where I got my first Double Cannon...

It dropped...

From a Humar...

On Pioneer 2... :/

After a member of my party resta'd him... :/!

[pikachief]

On 2007-08-29 22:39, DragonStorm wrote:
that's weird...its the first time a zamvapas has ever reached lv 100...and has passed even 119...its stupid to give it a 10* board...just doesnt make sense.



enemies can only drop 10*'s unless it is a special enemy or an area drop on S2.

But the bigger the enemy. the higher the lvl the higher chance of them dropping their rare weapon. This has been discovered from the many bil de axes and sweet deaths i've seen and the little destas i've seen. and how people claim to see big enemies drop many more S ranks during famitsu than the smaller ones.

anyways, 11*'s only drop from bosses.

and then 12*'s are only area drops. Like the psycho wand in the relic missions, and the agito repca in the hive missions.

these are only from lvl 100+ on S2. and we must be getting S3 some time in the way far future like the expansion or something, because there is no other way to distribute the rest of the 11*'s and the 12*'s. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

ok? on S2 its, 10*=monster drop 11*= boss drop 12*= area drop
and NEO GEO= magical drop http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

[DragonStorm]

lol gotcha that makes thing clear about the rares. well all good effing luck taking down this zamvapas...i will be hunting sweet death very soon http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif just 2 more levels. btw all last night, the S rank spear on cost of research dropped when i killed the kog...i freaked because i never saw a single S rank drop..i even picked it up but that effing random sent it to a guy who just joined!!! so ya im spamming it today because it was my ticket to getting a rucar http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

[HaydenX]

On 2007-08-30 08:22, pikachief wrote:

On 2007-08-29 22:39, DragonStorm wrote:
that's weird...its the first time a zamvapas has ever reached lv 100...and has passed even 119...its stupid to give it a 10* board...just doesnt make sense.



enemies can only drop 10*'s unless it is a special enemy or an area drop on S2.

But the bigger the enemy. the higher the lvl the higher chance of them dropping their rare weapon. This has been discovered from the many bil de axes and sweet deaths i've seen and the little destas i've seen. and how people claim to see big enemies drop many more S ranks during famitsu than the smaller ones.

anyways, 11*'s only drop from bosses.

and then 12*'s are only area drops. Like the psycho wand in the relic missions, and the agito repca in the hive missions.

these are only from lvl 100+ on S2. and we must be getting S3 some time in the way far future like the expansion or something, because there is no other way to distribute the rest of the 11*'s and the 12*'s. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

ok? on S2 its, 10*=monster drop 11*= boss drop 12*= area drop
and NEO GEO= magical drop :wink:



You've just made a HUGE Neo Geo fan very happy. I even own an NGPC. I also own...MAME http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif.

I know what everyone wants to see....Wouldn't it be great to see a lvl 200 enemy. Maybe a Svaltus. He'll drop some random board {b}Svaldub, which makes:
Svaltus-Doubles
14*
ATP 500
ATA 220
PP 900
Req. ATP = 620

And of course, people would complain about not having received the 13* double saber first...http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

[Umberger]

On 2007-08-30 01:58, SaiSpagS wrote:
Nuts, the lvl 85 in the Relics is a bitch enough, a fun fight though...


Step 1) Infect.
Step 2) Stand still, dodging its once in a blue moon attack tactics.
Step 3) If all of its HP has not been depleted, go back to step 1. Otherwise, attack once to kill.

Also, if creatures did indeed drop new things at 120, that'd mean Darbelans and Carriguines should have dropped new things in the Dulk Fakis co-op mission. Unfortunately, it seems as though they do not.

[Rashiid]

bearclaws dropped from an enemy...thats 11*....

maybe cause its special....idk.

but; gunners/melee are gonna be useless against this thing; ive seen 90's doing like 0s-5s (fortegunners) on it in Relics S2 on Neudaiz, and melee hitting 0's.

so yah; infection is the only way to go. (unless you attack its head)

[dogg1000]

On 2007-08-30 14:06, Rashiid wrote:
bearclaws dropped from an enemy...thats 11*....




Bear Claws dropped from Jaggo Sonnoichi thats a rare holiday monster, which is considered special.



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[Rashiid]

i know what it dropped from; i had 2 >.>

guess since its holiday. (if you consider it one http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif)

[Shiryuu]

On 2007-08-30 08:22, pikachief wrote:

On 2007-08-29 22:39, DragonStorm wrote:
that's weird...its the first time a zamvapas has ever reached lv 100...and has passed even 119...its stupid to give it a 10* board...just doesnt make sense.



enemies can only drop 10*'s unless it is a special enemy or an area drop on S2.

But the bigger the enemy. the higher the lvl the higher chance of them dropping their rare weapon. This has been discovered from the many bil de axes and sweet deaths i've seen and the little destas i've seen. and how people claim to see big enemies drop many more S ranks during famitsu than the smaller ones.

lol. No.

[DragonStorm]

On 2007-08-30 14:06, Rashiid wrote:
bearclaws dropped from an enemy...thats 11*....

maybe cause its special....idk.

but; gunners/melee are gonna be useless against this thing; ive seen 90's doing like 0s-5s (fortegunners) on it in Relics S2 on Neudaiz, and melee hitting 0's.

so yah; infection is the only way to go. (unless you attack its head)



um ouch lol, bring out killer shot ppl XD

[Rashiid]

@Pika: lol in that case explain the bazzilian Ragnus's and Skela's XD



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[Turambar]

Don't forget Killer shot's PP cost. Unless you're going to crowd your inven. with rifles, the constant need for recharges will get annoying.

[Umberger]

On 2007-08-30 16:52, DragonStorm wrote:

On 2007-08-30 14:06, Rashiid wrote:
bearclaws dropped from an enemy...thats 11*....

maybe cause its special....idk.

but; gunners/melee are gonna be useless against this thing; ive seen 90's doing like 0s-5s (fortegunners) on it in Relics S2 on Neudaiz, and melee hitting 0's.

so yah; infection is the only way to go. (unless you attack its head)



um ouch lol, bring out killer shot ppl XD



...or you could just use Dark Shot and kill it a lot easier.

[Rashiid]

yeah killer shot wont do a thing against that thing.....

[Mayu]

Infection

[Konstanse_Xx]

I haven't fought the thing in awhile, how does it hold against techs?

[Rashiid]

i think they are 100% effective;

dont quote me

[Mayu]

On 2007-08-30 18:00, Konstanse_Xx wrote:
I haven't fought the thing in awhile, how does it hold against techs?

Quite annoying

I personally use either Diga or Ra-Megid

not that much tech resist

All though

SE 4 Infection bow http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif works as well



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[Soukosa]

On 2007-08-30 08:22, pikachief wrote:
enemies can only drop 10*'s unless it is a special enemy or an area drop on S2.

So Bil De Vears are special? They drop an 11* board.



But the bigger the enemy. the higher the lvl the higher chance of them dropping their rare weapon. This has been discovered from the many bil de axes and sweet deaths i've seen and the little destas i've seen. and how people claim to see big enemies drop many more S ranks during famitsu than the smaller ones.

Not necessarily. The lesser common enemies tend to have a higher chance of dropping the rare. "Large" enemies outside of that have no impact on it.



these are only from lvl 100+ on S2. and we must be getting S3 some time in the way far future like the expansion or something, because there is no other way to distribute the rest of the 11*'s and the 12*'s. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

So what is with people's great interest in seeing ranks beyond S2? Do you really want to play the same damn missions for all eternity, just with slightly higher level and faster moving enemies with each additonal rank? I sure don't >.> You should realize that the new missions on the AoI beta had a minimum of lv 95 enemies (I think it was) on S rank. One had lv 120 enemies. There's no set rules for what level an enemy will be for that rank. They're just capping off the enemy level for this version at lv 120.



ok? on S2 its, 10*=monster drop 11*= boss drop 12*= area drop
and NEO GEO= magical drop http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

What about the 13* rares? Are they never gonna drop then? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif



On 2007-08-30 14:06, Rashiid wrote:
but; gunners/melee are gonna be useless against this thing; ive seen 90's doing like 0s-5s (fortegunners) on it in Relics S2 on Neudaiz, and melee hitting 0's.

so yah; infection is the only way to go. (unless you attack its head)

What sort of weapons were they using? C ranks? o_O; I've seen a lv 120 Zammy die pretty damn quick in a decent sized party >.>

[Konstanse_Xx]

@Mayu, thanks. now I know I can give it a shot as Wartecher too. Hmm.

[Rashiid]

the evasion on that thing is massive; and defence.

you may of had bow ppl w/ you or technic ppl.

[Shiro_Ryuu]

On 2007-08-30 18:56, Sounomi wrote:

What about the 13* rares? Are they never gonna drop then? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif



I'm very sure that a 13* would drop, but I see the chances as being something around -100% of dropping, and a -500% chance of a successful synth. Man, I'm scared to see how a 15* would drop. o.o

[Rashiid]

didnt 13* armor drop on tha Beta?

[60Hz]

On 2007-08-30 08:22, pikachief wrote:
>SNIP<

ok? on S2 its, 10*=monster drop 11*= boss drop 12*= area drop
and NEO GEO= magical drop http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif



Magical Drop FTW!

[Remedy]

On 2007-08-30 19:33, 60Hz wrote:
Magical Drop FTW!I prefer MD3, myself.

Moon FTMFW

[pikachief]

On 2007-08-30 17:12, Rashiid wrote:
@Pika: lol in that case explain the bazzilian Ragnus's and Skela's XD



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u know what i should just not believe what anyone says about anything anymore about this game or anythign else ever again unless i see it for myself huh?

cuz anytime i bring up anything on these boards everyones like OH HURRY FIND SOMETHING TO COUNTER PIKAS STUPID THEORIES TO MAKE HIM LOOK STUPID CUZ THEIR ALWAYS WRONG!!!11!one!!!

forget it i tried with u people and all my guesses are guesses and im pretty sure you'll all be happier without them. back to normal plain boring posts no one really cares about >.>

[ashley50]

lv120 Zamvapas don't possess such threat against a ForteGunner with an SE4 Virus...Like i did earlier.
Techs also put a nice Dent on their Metal Bodies :3

[Rashiid]

On 2007-08-30 23:36, pikachief wrote:

On 2007-08-30 17:12, Rashiid wrote:
@Pika: lol in that case explain the bazzilian Ragnus's and Skela's XD




u know what i should just not believe what anyone says about anything anymore about this game or anythign else ever again unless i see it for myself huh?

cuz anytime i bring up anything on these boards everyones like OH HURRY FIND SOMETHING TO COUNTER PIKAS STUPID THEORIES TO MAKE HIM LOOK STUPID CUZ THEIR ALWAYS WRONG!!!11!one!!!

forget it i tried with u people and all my guesses are guesses and im pretty sure you'll all be happier without them. back to normal plain boring posts no one really cares about >.>



dont feel bad; just look at me.

i get picked on just about every post; and im still here everyday (lolsad)

its just rumors that make ppl want to flame.

[desturel]

On 2007-08-30 18:56, Sounomi wrote:
So Bil De Vears are special? They drop an 11* board.


Bil's drop a Kubara product. Kubara products seem to be the exception to any rule. When you see a Tenora, Yohmei, or GRM 11* drop from a creature, let me know.

[bloodflowers]

Silly, weak creature - infect n wait. Dropped a dimate for me one time, and nothing the other (under 3* luck). Then I got to De Ragnus again and it locked my 360 as usual. You'd have thought they'd have fixed that by now - lots of people affected.

Shame as I really like night time missions.

[Dragwind]

Best bet is definitely a virus placed asap if you have someone who can. Obviously if you have a choice, throw those techs at it. Otherwise, HEADSHOT IT.