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str898mustang
Sep 11, 2007, 09:53 AM
Well just saw we're getting new PMs. Any idea what PM will be using what weapons?

ljkkjlcm9
Sep 11, 2007, 10:04 AM
http://psupedia.info/Partner_Machinery

I also believe that 414 uses a sweet death as one of it's doublesabers, and also has tornado dance as one of it's PAs

THE JACKEL

Chibi_psu
Sep 11, 2007, 10:15 AM
more info of the pm would be nice.Pm 454 cast support techs but that means buffs too? does pm 433 shot 1 bullet of mechgun like the other pms?............

str898mustang
Sep 11, 2007, 10:18 AM
i'd like to see what SE's the range PMs will do. Guess we'll find out friday.

panzer_unit
Sep 11, 2007, 10:19 AM
Geez, which one to get?

I just saw my 422 use the complete Bogga Danga combo last night. Out of the corner of my eye I saw the telltale PA rainbow and sparkles... and she mainly hits away with Bogga Zubba which is a really nice move for something as simplistic as a PM. The basic knuckle attack is also quite powerful as far as non-PA moves go, it's what I use most of the time if I want to throw regular hits at all.
423 is a no, unless she does full Dus Robado combos reliably. Otherwise I've got no faith in a PM's ability to use a spear effectively
424 I might do. If all she spams is 1-move PA's, neither are powerful enough to be worth talking about. Reliably using 2-move Anga Redda combos would be pretty good. Using Anga Jabogra at all would be instant win. PM's aren't aggressive enough that Axe's crap attack speed will hurt, certainly.

Vashyron
Sep 11, 2007, 10:39 AM
Will the new PM's have anything special like the old ones such as HP Restore And SUV?

pikachief
Sep 11, 2007, 10:43 AM
On 2007-09-11 08:04, ljkkjlcm9 wrote:
http://psupedia.info/Partner_Machinery

I also believe that 414 uses a sweet death as one of it's doublesabers, and also has tornado dance as one of it's PAs

THE JACKEL



yea i've been waiting for that one since before the 1 set of PM devices came out! woot

razkal
Sep 11, 2007, 11:01 AM
Sometime last week I saw what the advanced job classes are for the new PMs, but now I can't find the info. Does anyone have that info. thx.

pikachief
Sep 11, 2007, 11:44 AM
no it wont it stays the same, even if u delete your PM the Battle stats will always remain the same http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

NexGen
Sep 11, 2007, 11:44 AM
Just a question - if I switch from a 442 to a .... 444 for example, will the B St reset? (Battle Stat)

NexGen
Sep 11, 2007, 11:45 AM
Oh, sweet, I can zero her out even and keep the stat? Cool...not that I'm going to reset Fred or anything http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif I love my 442!

Retrowors
Sep 11, 2007, 11:59 AM
If you use a PM zero you will lose your Bst

CelestialBlade
Sep 11, 2007, 12:49 PM
B St only resets if you Zero your PM. Evolving will not change it.

Since we're talking about PMs and their S-ranks, 424 uses an Ank Dedda. My 421 is soooooo changing >:D

Fatima
Sep 11, 2007, 12:59 PM
Are these coming out during the update this week? Or later? Just wondering.

Ezodagrom
Sep 11, 2007, 01:15 PM
yep, they're coming this friday

Golto
Sep 11, 2007, 01:21 PM
I'm going to steal the 434's killer elite rifle.

Wallin
Sep 11, 2007, 06:12 PM
On 2007-09-11 09:44, pikachief wrote:
no it wont it stays the same, even if u delete your PM the Battle stats will always remain the same http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif



On 2007-09-11 10:49, Typheros wrote:
B St only resets if you Zero your PM.

Err... so, which is correct?

Rashiid
Sep 11, 2007, 06:16 PM
im guessing 'bombing' refers to everything you did to that PM.

KTani
Sep 11, 2007, 06:22 PM
I have a 450, I haven't changed her because 1) She spams Resta, which is great for soloing, and 2) She's a pyromaniac, which amuses me and my brother greatly http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif Anybody have more info on 454 though? I think Shiryuu said it can cast all debuffs, and I think some buffs, but Resta is all I really care about.

gryphonvii
Sep 11, 2007, 06:22 PM
cant wait to see a killer elite in action, and I'm starting to work on a striking one in order to get the 414, I might make another 420 series just for the axe since I don't fell like making an armor mag b/c one of my friends has one.

Zorafim
Sep 11, 2007, 06:26 PM
I didn't like my 41x model, and though I am satisfied with my 431, I wanted a maid. I am going to like these devices.

Rashiid
Sep 11, 2007, 06:27 PM
452 heals more then my 450 used to (she has resta on 2 weapons); and she comes equipped with Lv21+ Shifa/Zodial.

Ryna
Sep 11, 2007, 06:30 PM
On 2007-09-11 16:22, KTani wrote:
I have a 450, I haven't changed her because 1) She spams Resta, which is great for soloing, and 2) She's a pyromaniac, which amuses me and my brother greatly http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif Anybody have more info on 454 though? I think Shiryuu said it can cast all debuffs, and I think some buffs, but Resta is all I really care about.


http://www.pso-world.com/items/psu/16/1844/pm_device_gh454/

Based on what I saw, it casts debuffs and Earth spells.

Umberger
Sep 11, 2007, 06:44 PM
Its dress looks like Skittles. Isn't that reason enough to get one?

Gryffin
Sep 11, 2007, 07:29 PM
I'm interested in the 453, anyone got info on her?

Also, which 41X uses daggers, and which color is her dress?

Umberger
Sep 11, 2007, 08:19 PM
413 uses Daggers, and has a black dress.

453 info:

Kikami with Masei-Shiki (defense down effect).
Hajirod with Gifoie 11 and Razonde 21.
Mayrod with Rafoie 21 and Gizonde 21.
Some wand with Resta on it...I can't tell which one exactly. The JP Wiki says "Wagasetsupu", and the closest thing I can see to that is W'gasep.

Ffuzzy-Logik
Sep 11, 2007, 08:32 PM
On 2007-09-11 16:12, Wallin wrote:

On 2007-09-11 09:44, pikachief wrote:
no it wont it stays the same, even if u delete your PM the Battle stats will always remain the same :D



On 2007-09-11 10:49, Typheros wrote:
B St only resets if you Zero your PM.

Err... so, which is correct?

If you use a PM Device ZERO, the B. St will return to zero. When hackers were "PM bombing" back in the day, that somehow did not reset the B. St.

EDIT: In other news, GH-413 will be :>! I just can't decide if I should zero my 80 striking 412 to make it pure before changing it to 413. :

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Ffuzzy-Logik on 2007-09-11 18:35 ]</font>

Shiryuu
Sep 11, 2007, 08:43 PM
On 2007-09-11 16:22, KTani wrote:
but Resta is all I really care about.


Yeah, she uses resta a lot. She even actually runs with you until you stop, then casts resta (unlike others who only resta at one spot).

Pulpy
Sep 11, 2007, 08:55 PM
in other news...it does NOT bring your B St down to 0 if you use a PM zero. Honestly "in other news" nobody thinks that's clever.

Zoamel_Gustav
Sep 11, 2007, 09:44 PM
Reupdated PM equipment list:

GH-410:
Hanzo (7* GRM Sword) Spinning Break
Sharp Twins (8* GRM Twin Saber) Assault Crush
Batnara (3* Yohmei Wand) Resta
Mega / Stamina or no Extra Unit

GH-411:
Ice Calibur (5* GRM Sword) Tornado Break
Deathdancer (7* GRM Twin Sabers) Splendor Crush
Starra (2* Yohmei wand) Resta
Tero / HP Restore

GH-412:
Ice Rapier (8* GRM Saber) Rising Strike
Hanzo (7* GRM Sword) Spinning Break
Batnara (3* Yohmei wand) Resta
Sturm Attacker

GH-413:
Survivor (6* GRM Dagger) Shunbu Shouren-zan
Asami-zashi (7* Yohmei Dagger) Hikai Shuuha-zan
Halp Serafi (10* Kubara Dagger) Buten Shuren-zan
Scepter (4* GRM Wand) Resta
Unconfirmed Extra Unit

GH-414:
Double Saber (7* GRM Double Saber) Tornado Dance
Sweet Death (10* GRM Double Saber) Gravity Dance
Batnara (3* Yohmei Wand) Resta
Hegel Attacker

GH-420:
Dark Ga-Misaki (8* Yohmei Claw) Senten Kanzan-ga
Shintsuki-zashi (7* Twin Dagger) Hishou Jinren-zan
Batnara (3* Yohmei Wand) Resta
Mega / Stamina or no Extra Unit

GH-421:
Giza-Misaki (9* Yohmei Claw) Shousen Totsuzan-ga
Dark Mijin-Misaki (8* Yohmei Claws) Rensan Seidan-ga
Starra (2* Yohmei wand) Resta
Tero / HP Restore

GH-422:
Gudda Breba (7* Tenora Fists) Bogga Danga
Gudda Godda (8* Tenora Fists) Bogga Zubba
Batnara (3* Yohmei Wand) Resta
Sturm Attacker

GH-423:
Halbenata (5* Yohmei Spear) Dus Daggas
Berdys (6* GRM Spear) Dus Majarra
Mukfet (8* Tenora Spear) Dus Robado
Misaki (7* Yohmei Claw) Senten Kanzan-ga
Unconfirmed Wand Resta
Unconfirmed Extra Unit

GH-424:
Ank Barde (8* Tenora Axe) Anga Dugrega
Ank Tomho (7* Tenora Axe) Anga Jabroga
Neutral Ank Dedda (10* Tenora Axe) Anga Redda
Batnara (3* Yohmei Wand) Resta
Rafal Attacker

GH-430:
Burst (8* GRM Rifle) Frozen Shot
Beamgun (7* GRM Handgun) Frozen Hit
Sceptara (4* Yohmei Wand) Resta
Mega / Stamina or no Extra Unit

GH-431:
Falchion (6* GRM Saber) Rising Strike
Raygun (7* GRM Handgun) Mayalee Hit
Assassin (7* GRM Rifle) Darkness shot
Sceptara (4* Yohmei Wand) Resta
Tero / HP Restore

GH-432:
Buster (3* GRM Saber) Rising strike
Cubo Dunga (8* Tenora Crossbow) Yak Maga
Bulletmaster (7* GRM Twin handguns) Twin Rising
Septara (4* Yohmei Wand) Resta
Sturm Attacker

GH-433:
Meteor Cannon (10* GRM Laser) Frozen Prism
Battlestopper (12* GRM Twin Handguns) Twin Freeze
Arb Rega (6* Tenora Twin Handguns) Twin Mayalee
Slyrod (4* Yohmei Rod) Resta, Zodial
Unconfirmed Extra Unit

GH-434:
Saiyuhoh (4* Yohmei Rifle) Rising Shot
Falgohoh (6* Yohmei Rifle) Burning Shot
Killer Elite (12* GRM Rifle) Killer Shot
Blackbull (10* GRM Rifle) Mayalee Shot
W'ganba (3* GRM Wand) Resta
Blitz Attacker

GH-440:
Shigga Boma (7* Tenora Shotgun) Barata Inga
Evil Twins (8* GRM Twin Handgun) Twin Plasma
Canara (5* Yohmei Wand) Resta
Mega / Stamina or no Extra Unit

GH-441:
Partizan (4* GRM Spear) Dus Daggas
Shigga Brada (8* Tenora Shotgun) Barada Chamga
Bulletmaster (7* GRM Twin Handguns) Twin Grav
Canara (5* Yohmei wand) Resta
Tero / HP Restore

GH-442:
Pike (2* GRM Spear) Dus Daggas
Hirokteri (10* Yohmei Bow) Masei-sou
Bulletmaster (7* GRM Twin Handguns) Twin Rising
Batonara (3* Yohmei Wand) Resta
Sturm Attacker

GH-443:
Laser Cannon (7* GRM Laser) Burning Prism
Thunder Cannon (9* GRM Laser) Plasma Prism
Needle Cannon (11* GRM Laser) Frozen Prism
Crozier (6* GRM Wand) Resta
Unconfirmed Extra Unit

GH-444:
Gur Bazga (10* Tenora Grenade) Boma Yoga
Gur Nedac (8* Kubara Grenade) Boma Riga
Laser Cannon (7* GRM Laser) Dark Prism
Maser Cannon (8* GRM Laser) Plasma Prism
Slyrod (4* Yohmei Rod) Resta
Grom Attacker

GH-450:
Hajirod (5* Yohmei Rod) Foie, Rafoie, Jellen, Resta
Mayrod (8* Yohmei Rod) Foie, Rafoie, Gifoie, Resta
Crozara (6* Yohmei Wand) Resta
Mega / Stamina or no Extra Unit

GH-451:
Ice Majimra (9* Yohmei wand) Barta, Gibarta
Cometara (7* Yohmei Wand) Rabarta, Resta
Halarod (10* Yohmei Rod) Barta, Gibarta, Rabarta, Resta.
Tero / HP Restore

GH-452:
Mayrod (8* Yohmei Rod) Razonde, Gizonde, Resta, Shifta
Lightning Majimra (9* Yohmei Wand) Zonde, Zodial
Batnara (3* Yohmei Wand) Resta and Rentis
Sturm Attacker

GH-453:
Kikami (7* Yohmei Card) Masei-shiki
Mayrod (8* Yohmei Rod) Rafoie, Gizonde
Hajirod (5* Yohmei Rod) Gifoie, Razonde
W'gasep (4* Tenora Wand) Resta
Unconfirmed Extra Unit

GH-454:
Mayrod (8* Yohmei Rod) Diga, Radiga, Gidiga, Resta
Tomoirod (6* Yohmei Rod) Jellen, Zalure, Zoldeel
W'gasep (4* Tenora Wand) Resta
Meteor Attacker

From the topic "JP PSU 09.06 update information" (http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=153291&forum=20).

On 2007-09-04 06:54, EspioKaos wrote:
Offical JP PSU site (http://phantasystaruniverse.jp/news/wis/?mode=view&id=428)
The following PM types have been adjusted, changing them into advance battled types:

GH 413: Wartecher
GH 414: Fighgunner
GH 423: Wartecher
GH 424: Fortefighter
GH 433: Fortegunner
GH 434: Fortegunner
GH 443: Fortegunner
GH 444: Fortegunner
GH 453: Guntecher
GH 454: Fortetecher

NexGen
Sep 12, 2007, 10:41 AM
On 2007-09-11 18:32, Ffuzzy-Logik wrote:

On 2007-09-11 16:12, Wallin wrote:

On 2007-09-11 09:44, pikachief wrote:
no it wont it stays the same, even if u delete your PM the Battle stats will always remain the same http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif



On 2007-09-11 10:49, Typheros wrote:
B St only resets if you Zero your PM.

Err... so, which is correct?

If you use a PM Device ZERO, the B. St will return to zero. When hackers were "PM bombing" back in the day, that somehow did not reset the B. St.

EDIT: In other news, GH-413 will be :>! I just can't decide if I should zero my 80 striking 412 to make it pure before changing it to 413. :

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Ffuzzy-Logik on 2007-09-11 18:35 ]</font>



In other words...one of you guys is right lol.

I'm not going to zero her, but these responses did not quite answer the question. Let me ask in a different way:

Is there any way to change a 442 to (for example) a 43x series without losing B St.? If so, please inform.

CelestialBlade
Sep 12, 2007, 10:48 AM
On 2007-09-12 08:41, NexGen wrote:

On 2007-09-11 18:32, Ffuzzy-Logik wrote:

On 2007-09-11 16:12, Wallin wrote:

On 2007-09-11 09:44, pikachief wrote:
no it wont it stays the same, even if u delete your PM the Battle stats will always remain the same http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif



On 2007-09-11 10:49, Typheros wrote:
B St only resets if you Zero your PM.

Err... so, which is correct?

If you use a PM Device ZERO, the B. St will return to zero. When hackers were "PM bombing" back in the day, that somehow did not reset the B. St.

EDIT: In other news, GH-413 will be :>! I just can't decide if I should zero my 80 striking 412 to make it pure before changing it to 413. :

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Ffuzzy-Logik on 2007-09-11 18:35 ]</font>



In other words...one of you guys is right lol.

I'm not going to zero her, but these responses did not quite answer the question. Let me ask in a different way:

Is there any way to change a 442 to (for example) a 43x series without losing B St.? If so, please inform.



No, you will have to Zero your PM and as a result, you will lose your B St. A 44x can only be a 44x until you use a PM Device ZERO, which resets a PM's evolutions, synthing stats, and B St. Everything else remains the same.

NexGen
Sep 12, 2007, 11:29 AM
Thanks for the clarity! Fred will remain a 44x

NosajX7
Sep 12, 2007, 11:42 AM
anyone know what mayalee shot (on 434) will do?

Chibi_psu
Sep 12, 2007, 12:29 PM
about 433.. psupedia says it use mechgun and that description says it use laser and twin handgun...So which one is the correct?

bloodflowers
Sep 12, 2007, 01:12 PM
I recently developed a 422, really happy with her although I haven't seen her use all of Bogga Danga yet. I'm thinking the same as panzer_unit, I don't see them using a spear very well - and the axe speed combined with PM AI could result in a fairly comatose helper. I guess I'll buy the units and try them out despite my current poverty.

My main character has a 411 - never really liked the 411/2 compared to the 410, but the 411 does seem to live a bit longer. I was thinking PM+Sweet Death was the obvious choice until I found out about Tornado Dance. That PA is disruptive enough even when used by real players - I dread to think of the confusion caused by a tiny little robomaid spinning through the air every few moments. Amusing, but not for me. Guess it'll have to be the 413 - although I expect most of the time she'll use that Halp Serafi on fire enemies and switch to neutral for everything else.

WolfBlade
Sep 12, 2007, 10:52 PM
On 2007-09-11 10:49, Typheros wrote:
B St only resets if you Zero your PM. Evolving will not change it.

Since we're talking about PMs and their S-ranks, 424 uses an Ank Dedda. My 421 is soooooo changing >:D
ahhhh ok so