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Kimil
Sep 16, 2007, 05:26 PM
(Sorry in advanced if this was already mentioned)

In the new update that just flu by, Rentis and Dizas (only currently usable by NPCs) were nerfed so that they became a self-effecting spell only... Do you think this is permanent? And You think it's a bad or good thing?



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RedCoKid
Sep 16, 2007, 05:43 PM
I don't care as long as Sega finally decides to release them someday. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

omegapirate2k
Sep 16, 2007, 05:44 PM
Yes, I love it, it lets my wartecher be an asshole like I've always dreamed :3

Kimil
Sep 16, 2007, 05:49 PM
Lol at an A-hole WT

And I just tough of something, at level 31+ there's most likely no fourth shield (there looks like there's only room for 3 in the shield animation, offline anyways), and only ATs can get level 31+ Dizas and Rentis. Maybe at 31+ it becomes a full support spell, and not self-effecting only? (Assuming there just isn't a fourth shield that's gained)



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omegapirate2k
Sep 16, 2007, 05:57 PM
I doubt it, but I hope so so acrotechers can be my bitch even moreso http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Umberger
Sep 16, 2007, 06:03 PM
On 2007-09-16 15:49, Kimil wrote:
Maybe at 31+ it becomes a full support spell, and not self-effecting only? (Assuming there just isn't a fourth shield that's gained)

If I remember correctly, the barrier spells in online mode don't take 100% of the damage...I'm thinking that they will reduce a certain % at 1-10, 11-20, 21-30, and 31-40...but just gain extra "shields" at 11 and 21.

Menochi
Sep 16, 2007, 06:04 PM
Its not self only. Its single target.

Umberger
Sep 16, 2007, 06:07 PM
On 2007-09-16 16:04, Menochi wrote:
Its not self only. Its single target.



So for it to affect a full party, you'd have to cast it 6 times? Also, how does it work if say...you have 1 shield (assuming it's level 11+), and you cast it next to someone with no shields? Does it cast it on whoever has the least amount of shields, or would the caster take the highest priority?

pikachief
Sep 16, 2007, 06:09 PM
u cna probably target your party members

Menochi
Sep 16, 2007, 06:12 PM
Its not released to players, so how exactly it works I don't know. While doing story mode with my characters since the update, Maya still casts it, and has put it on me as well as other NPCs. But only on one person. I'd assume the reason its not released is that PSU doesn't have a good way to target people in combat just yet. Maybe they'll throw it in AoI.

Kimil
Sep 16, 2007, 06:14 PM
Shield TECHNICS Adjusted!
The damage absorbing TECHNICS Dizas and Rentis will no longer affect multiple targets, for now Maya Shidow and other NPC forces can only cast them on themselves.





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pikachief
Sep 16, 2007, 06:14 PM
On 2007-09-16 16:14, Kimil wrote:

Shield TECHNICS Adjusted!
The damage absorbing TECHNICS Dizas and Rentis will no longer affect multiple targets, for now Maya Shidow and other NPC forces can only cast them on themselves.

Nope, Its Self-Effecting only



but u still get effected by it when they cast it in your party XD

Kimil
Sep 16, 2007, 06:15 PM
lol, well, just going by what Sega says lol

Menochi
Sep 16, 2007, 06:18 PM
Yeah, I'm assuming its a mistranslation though. Because its definately not self-casting anymore.
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w106/tancients/psu20070913_101250_005.jpg

Its just single target instead of group.

Kimil
Sep 16, 2007, 06:20 PM
That would definately be useful... Hope it stays that way. Though I wouldn't mind it being self-effecting http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

pikachief
Sep 16, 2007, 06:20 PM
ZOMG LAIA CAN CAST THE SHIELD SPELLZ!!!

lol jk

Menochi
Sep 16, 2007, 06:22 PM
My bf got a screenshot of it cast on himself if you need further proof. But yeah, mistranslation or misinformation.

Katy
Sep 16, 2007, 06:41 PM
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/223/psu20070917014202000qt0.jpg

Nerf? What nerf? jk

Golto
Sep 16, 2007, 07:05 PM
If you notice Maya or your pm taking a long time to get through a casting get as close to them as you can and the tech will effect you and not them. I've had Maya cast Dizas and I did this and it affected me not her.

Kufell
Sep 16, 2007, 09:50 PM
They probably felt it was overpowered effecting the whole party.. This way kind of just makes Techers better than they already were. Would of made more sense just to raise the PP cost to cast.

toxic_rf
Sep 17, 2007, 05:31 AM
Shield TECHNICS Adjusted!
The damage absorbing TECHNICS Dizas and Rentis will no longer affect multiple targets, for now Maya Shidow and other NPC forces can only cast them on themselves.
I wish this was more specific.

Does it mean:

The damage absorbing TECHNICS Dizas and Rentis will no longer affect multiple targets, because now Maya Shidow and other NPC forces can only cast them on themselves.
Which would suggest that they will never be able to be cast on a whole party.

Or:

The damage absorbing TECHNICS Dizas and Rentis will no longer affect multiple targets, for the time being Maya Shidow and other NPC forces can only cast them on themselves.
Which would suggest that one day they will be able to be cast on a whole party.