Egh? So we can actually make our OWN luck better in AoI?

[Turbobrain]

I was just re-reading the news here and I saw 'New lobbies will include a casino on Moatoob, temple on Neudaiz where you attempt to increase your photon fortune'.

This I did not know but I think it's a COOL idea. I never liked the idea of luck being so RANDOM. It seems every time I get it, I'm doing something else in RL. I always figured you should be able to influence your own luck(like your reputation in other games).

So does anyone know how it is you are able to influence your own luck... I meam presumbly you can make it better at the temple, if so could you do (insert here) and go from 0 to 3 luck? Or would it only affect a small amount(say 1 increment or even dcrement). Would it take long?

Man, I can't wait till AoI. I really think Sega might have worked some magic here and we'll be seeing full uni's my platform again. I wish they would advertise it a bit better though. I mean in Japan they got TV commericials. Here we got, er, what?:)

[A2K]

From what I've been told, the more you pay, the better chance you have of upgrading your luck. On the other hand, you might end up screwing yourself and walking away with less than what you had.

[Turbobrain]

I see, so you make a sort of 'donation' to the CoG and the Holy Light may imrove your Photon Fortune(aka luck). I guess though if you get greedy then the HL decrerases you luck.

Do you know if you only get one try in a time span, of could you keep spamming it til you got your 3* luck? (LOL I hope so;)).

I must look into this more. Or maybe I should play my Beast who has 2 luck today....

[RedMussel]

or you can just wait and find out so its more of a surprises rather then noing everything for everything

[Shiro_Ryuu]

Man, that's awesome. Even more reason to see that hot newman chick, hmmm, Omikuji Miko...

[Ryna]

You talk to the Newman Priestess at the Sky Temple on Neudaiz. Talk to her and give her a tribute. The more you pay, the greater your odds of your luck changing. Your luck can go up or down.

[Turbobrain]

Do you know if this process can be spammed or is it limited by a time(or other) frame?

[Ryna]

On 2007-09-23 05:53, Turbobrain wrote:
Do you know if this process can be spammed or is it limited by a time(or other) frame?


You can only do it once per day.

[DavidNel]

Hah, it's like paying indulgences in the Catholic Church! (/not to offend)

[ZodiacNKnight]

On 2007-09-23 06:31, DavidNel wrote:
Hah, it's like paying indulgences in the Catholic Church! (/not to offend)



Yea, except in this case it actually does something...

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[pikachief]

yea i talked to her in the beta and gave her some cash and she moved my luck from nothing to 2* ^.^

[F-Gattaca]

On 2007-09-23 06:31, DavidNel wrote:
Hah, it's like paying indulgences in the Catholic Church! (/not to offend)



Didn't the Vatican outlaw that centuries ago? And I thought that was more of a penance thing, not something to increase fortune.

Given PSU's Newmans are really into the whole "romantic historical Japanese" thing, I'd say it's more like the Shinto practices of fortune telling at shrines, which people also pay for.

Either way, this sounds like a nice additional meseta sink! We need more stuff like this.

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[DavidNel]

Yeah, it was outlawed durring the Catholic Reformation. It's kind of like it, and it's the closest thing I kknow. Japanese history is something idk...

[F-Gattaca]

On 2007-09-23 07:19, DavidNel wrote:
Yeah, it was outlawed durring the Catholic Reformation. It's kind of like it, and it's the closest thing I kknow. Japanese history is something idk...


I understand; I just wanted to throw that out there since any mention of religion will lead to ignorant people snarking about it, ya know? Helps head 'em off.

Oh, with the Shinto fortune telling, I was referring to a modern practice; AFAIK most shrines do it, and many also sell talismans and the like. The romantic historical Japanese bit, I was referring to the Newmans' general culture. It's a wonder that I haven't seen a Newman Ruroni Kenshin wandering around ... Especially with that Kan Yu. (KAN YU DIG IT?!?!!!)

Hey, Ryna? A2K? Is it too early to wonder if anyone's figured out how much chance there is of one's fortune level changing and in which direction in relation to how much meseta is donated? I mean, she was in the AoI beta, wasn't she?

[Ryna]

On 2007-09-23 07:32, F-Gattaca wrote:
Hey, Ryna? A2K? Is it too early to wonder if anyone's figured out how much chance there is of one's fortune level changing and in which direction in relation to how much meseta is donated? I mean, she was in the AoI beta, wasn't she?


I believe the highest amount you could pay was 10 thousand meseta. I only had enough meseta to try it a couple of times, but it boosted my luck both times.

[DavidNel]

I'm sorry, but at that price is it really worth the boost in luck? Maybe on the PC/PS2 servers (I'm on these), but now without THAT much haxeta....

Does the "improved" luck go back to what it would normally be at 12:00 mid-night, or is it a full 24 hours after you payed?

[Turbobrain]

As someone who came THAT close to being an ordained missionary Cathlic Priest a while back:).

Indulgences, for a long time are found to have little to no Theological basis. The background history is that there is a place between Heaven and Hell called Purgaorty(this belief came from the Deutrocanical books). It was believed that this was a place that souls went who where not 'clean' enough to enter Heaven yet would go; this place was called 'purgatory'. They would spend a time there. Indulgences basically gave 'Graces' to people and would help them in Purgatory.

This was one of Luthors 'problems'(indulgences) and the concepty of purgatory(one iof the reasons many protestants reject the Duotrocanical books).

Keeping it very basic. In the Middle Ages some corrupt clergy(and even laity) would sell 'indlugences' to people. This practise was 'outlawed' both ecclesiastically and occassionally civiliy and is still evn present in modern day Cannoical law and civil states.

The belief in 'indulgences' is still present in some 'old-rite'(LeFevour) sects and indeed some traitional divions within the Church but mainstream Catholic theological schools of thought dismiss the idea of indulgences(and purgatory). The Jesuits were very instrumental in this(as usual).

By and large not many Cathlics would believe in indulgences and/or indulgences. CERTAINLY would not entertain buying or selling 'indulgences';I certainly know not of anyone who has bought/sold 'indulgences' and by doing so they out themselves in conflict with Catholic Cannonical Law. It would be taken VERY seriuosly; especially the promotion of indulgences and/or selling by a member of the clergy.

(Sorry, not a very good explanation but I just thought I'd type this out quick as Theology, Medicine and bodybuilding are one of the few things I know about.... I wish I knew more about typing better!)

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[Golto]

360 players need to get over the whole hacked meseta thing on pc/ps2. Is 10,000 meseta really that difficult to get? You can earn twice that in 10-12 minutes now. Money will be even easier to earn in AOI than it is now.

[Ryoten]

On 2007-09-23 07:37, Ryna wrote:

On 2007-09-23 07:32, F-Gattaca wrote:
Hey, Ryna? A2K? Is it too early to wonder if anyone's figured out how much chance there is of one's fortune level changing and in which direction in relation to how much meseta is donated? I mean, she was in the AoI beta, wasn't she?


I believe the highest amount you could pay was 10 thousand meseta. I only had enough meseta to try it a couple of times, but it boosted my luck both times.


Yeah, thats the highest amount. It goes from 100, 1k, & 10k. She can change your luck from 0 to 3* or no change at all. Once you get your luck changed, it sticks until the next luck change. I've tested it already & alot more have did the same during beta.

[F-Gattaca]

Ah, sweet! Thanks for the full story, Turbobrain!


On 2007-09-23 08:05, Golto wrote:
360 players need to get over the whole hacked meseta thing on pc/ps2. Is 10,000 meseta really that difficult to get? You can earn twice that in 10-12 minutes now. Money will be even easier to earn in AOI than it is now.



And that's why it's good to have more meseta sinks in the economy. That way meseta doesn't lose its value as a currency. Haxeta or no, if there isn't a drain in the tub it'll overflow and ruin the bathroom.

I only played PSO:BB's open beta, but I heard that's what happened in PSO.

[BanF]

On 2007-09-23 08:21, F-Gattaca wrote:
Ah, sweet! Thanks for the full story, Turbobrain!


On 2007-09-23 08:05, Golto wrote:
360 players need to get over the whole hacked meseta thing on pc/ps2. Is 10,000 meseta really that difficult to get? You can earn twice that in 10-12 minutes now. Money will be even easier to earn in AOI than it is now.



And that's why it's good to have more meseta sinks in the economy. That way meseta doesn't lose its value as a currency. Haxeta or no, if there isn't a drain in the tub it'll overflow and ruin the bathroom.

I only played PSO:BB's open beta, but I heard that's what happened in PSO.



And yet the 360 has no haxeta and we're not seeing any kind of inflation. Sorry, man, you theory fails.

Anyway, it's kinda cool that you can spend money on luck, but knowing mine IRL, I know better than to risk some of my hard earned cash with them Newmen.

[Lyrise]

On 2007-09-23 06:03, Ryna wrote:

On 2007-09-23 05:53, Turbobrain wrote:
Do you know if this process can be spammed or is it limited by a time(or other) frame?


You can only do it once per day.



Actually, the overriding lasts for only 6 hours (or at least, this is what it was set to in beta).

[CelestialBlade]

What's the best way of getting rid of counterfeit money?

Put it in the collection box at church.

[F-Gattaca]

On 2007-09-23 08:29, BanF wrote:
And yet the 360 has no haxeta and we're not seeing any kind of inflation. Sorry, man, you theory fails.


Um ... what?

BanF, this isn't hackneyed hypotheses, this is basic game design. Get a grip on the ego trip, will ya?

PSU does have some sinks for meseta, but when AoI hits, meseta payouts will likely increase and overwhelm whatever sinks are in the economy. Either more sinks have to be added, the current ones have to be revamped, or meseta has to be harder to earn.

Donations to the Communion of Gurhal for a photon fortune adjustment are one way to do it.


On 2007-09-23 08:49, Typheros wrote:
What's the best way of getting rid of counterfeit money?

Put it in the collection box at church.



I was thinking more of the scene in Ghost where Sam Wheat persuades Oda Mae to give blood money to nuns.

[beatrixkiddo]

Yeah a thousand players or so spamming seabeds all day is so never gonna overinflate the 360 economy. Ever.


(no, really!)

[Ryna]

Let's keep the discussion related to the Temple Priestess and increasing/decreasing luck. If you want to talk about economic comparisons between the two servers, start a new topic.

[Turbobrain]

In the experience of those who played the Beta, how well did this work? I mean if you had say 1 luck it can only get little worse, so if you payed your money did it go up frequently? often? 50/50? not much? or hardly ever?

If you had say 2 luck, would you risk it on going for 3? And would you get a decrase or increase in gradients(ie is it possible to lose your 2 luck altogether, or just 1)? If you see what I mean.

I'm just trying to see how worthwhile this feature would be... as other 'high' gambles on PSU like getting grinders above 9, getting weps above 44%... well, it does not happen often. Then again if you've got 0/1 luck it's not like your going to lose much...



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[Lyrise]

That's exactly how it works. The only possible results are any of the luck levels, with the probability of getting the highest luck being the worst. You have the greatest chance of zeroing out any luck you had, and getting 3 luck is about the same chance that you make a grinder +9/10 (not impossible, but not common either).

[Rashiid]

On 2007-09-23 08:05, Golto wrote:
360 players need to get over the whole hacked meseta thing on pc/ps2. Is 10,000 meseta really that difficult to get?


not at all.

anyone can get that in 10mins.

[Wallin]

On 2007-09-23 07:59, DavidNel wrote:
I'm sorry, but at that price is it really worth the boost in luck? Maybe on the PC/PS2 servers (I'm on these), but now without THAT much haxeta....



At the very least, this will lessen the posts that cry about not ever having 3-star luck while some other race has had it for X-days, etc.

Of course now we can all look forward to the dozens of polls about 'how much money did you donate' and 'how much did your luck get screwed today'... http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

[CelestialBlade]

On 2007-09-23 15:00, Wallin wrote:

On 2007-09-23 07:59, DavidNel wrote:
I'm sorry, but at that price is it really worth the boost in luck? Maybe on the PC/PS2 servers (I'm on these), but now without THAT much haxeta....



At the very least, this will lessen the posts that cry about not ever having 3-star luck while some other race has had it for X-days, etc.

Of course now we can all look forward to the dozens of polls about 'how much money did you donate' and 'how much did your luck get screwed today'... http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif



And people whining about how 3* Luck really isn't all that great, and never was.

[ErtaiClou]

Wait, I don't bow down and do the synthesis dance in front the newman chick?

[-Hyacia-]

xD Sounds spiffy and all, but I generally find things more one 0-1 luck then 2-3

[bloodflowers]

This sounds like the most awesome thing ever - chuck them 2k each time I'm on 0*, that would do just fine.

[CelestialBlade]

On 2007-09-24 09:54, ErtaiClou wrote:
Wait, I don't bow down and do the synthesis dance in front the newman chick?



There is always dancing.

Never forget that.