Ultimate PA's they are Not!

[Pseithyrr]

Yeah most are Groovy, but some suck big time. the sooner we stop calling them Ultimate PA', the sooner the Delusion will end. Frag PA's They Are!

[Zorafim]

Final PAs is what I've been calling them. Though I will say, the lance and sword PAs are indeed rather ultimate.

[pRoJeCtFaMe]

On 2007-09-28 22:54, Zorafim wrote:
the lance and sword PAs are indeed rather ultimate.


id like to add saber in the list.

[bahk]

Fine. Can we still call the spear "ultimate" though?

[Pseithyrr]

lol Regrant is a Heaven sent PA, but i think Ultimate is when there are no draw backs

[Gryffin]

On 2007-09-28 22:58, Pseithyrr wrote:
lol Regrant is a Heaven sent PA, but i think Ultimate is when there are no draw backs




Yeah. My only complaint for Hikai, my lover, is that I think the roll should travel a little bit, and spread the 3 hits out.

[-Ryuki-]

I happen to actually think some of them ARE worth being called "ultimate". Some however, like Tornado Dance, are far from "ultimate" in my eyes >.>

[HFlowen]

Boma Duranga is quite ultimate.

[Gryffin]

On 2007-09-28 23:01, RyukiZero wrote:
I happen to actually think some of them ARE worth being called "ultimate". Some however, like Tornado Dance, are far from "ultimate" in my eyes >.>



Agreed! On a level of crazy-agree-ability.

Although, I'm still getting it for Quetz, JUST because it has Tornado in it.

[-Ryuki-]

I have it on Red Ranger, but only for capping purposes.

[BanF]

There's a reason people prefer to call them loltimate.

[Alamar]

spear and launcher is indeed ultimate like my axe pa too

[Shishi-O]

the dagger pa pwns true darkness, ultimatly.

wich one were u refering to thats not mindblowingly cool?

[Shishi-O]

the dagger pa pwns true darkness, ultimatly.

wich one were u refering to thats not mindblowingly cool?

[Hrith]

I call them VIIFPAs ;o

[LTrav2k]

Ok, I'm assuming the new bow ult PA is at best a one shot wonder. I'm specifically wanting it so I can knock something down, and then beat it down with melee. Is it worth that at least?



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[DavidNel]

Is the new dagger PA good?

[Shiro_Ryuu]

Wait, is Sega the one who officially called these PAs ultimate? Or was it simply us who called them ultimate? I would just call them frag PAs, I mean, you never know when in AoI, something better than the current PAs may come around.

[Tita]

On 2007-09-29 06:43, DavidNel wrote:
Is the new dagger PA good?

yes. very. take a bit of getting used to on the second combo, but its worth it.

getting something extremely useful for only 25 frags?
win

[batokage]

the only total ripoff of afrag PA I can think of is Chousei-Sou for the bow. Sure it does damage equal to a lvl 14 Jisei-sou at only lvl 5, but it fires so slow that I'm not sure its really worth the hassle. Masei-sou ftw man.

[RedX]

On 2007-09-29 06:44, Shiroryuu wrote:
Wait, is Sega the one who officially called these PAs ultimate? Or was it simply us who called them ultimate? I would just call them frag PAs, I mean, you never know when in AoI, something better than the current PAs may come around.



SoA does
http://www.phantasystaruniverse.com/index.php

look down at the 5th entry.

[relentless]

On 2007-09-29 06:44, Shiroryuu wrote:
Wait, is Sega the one who officially called these PAs ultimate? Or was it simply us who called them ultimate? I would just call them frag PAs, I mean, you never know when in AoI, something better than the current PAs may come around.


I just either say PA or UPA or write it out as ultimate PA. o.0

[Powder Keg]

Masei-Sou sure as hell ain't ultimate. O_x

- Horribly slow
- Worse range
- TERRIBLE accuracy

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[Mayu]

Well now <.< guess I won't be getting that :

[relentless]

I just think of it as a name for the Photon Arts you need to buy with Fragments.
I never thought about PAs being ultimate or something. o.0


Edit:
lol.. so Masei-sou sucks?=O Never thought it would be bad, guess I'll have another free spot for another PA. :3

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[XenithFlare]

I'm really looking forward to getting the UPAs for:

-Sword
-Dagger
-Twin Handguns (shut up it's happening anyway)
-Grenade Launcher
-Axe

What I'm NOT looking forward to:

-Hunting that many frags. = No one seems to want to do it, anymore...

[InfiniDragon]

Saber PA is the one with the stupid dropkick at the end, right? I'd hardly call that one "ultimate".

[Pengfishh]

Hikai is a dearly Ultimate PA. Hikaihikaihikai!!!

[Zorafim]

On 2007-09-29 11:33, InfiniDragon wrote:
Saber PA is the one with the stupid dropkick at the end, right? I'd hardly call that one "ultimate".



I don't know. 1k damage per hit on a quick PA seems rather ultimate to me.

[Kylie]

Oh well, some of them are great, and they are new. The price isn't that much if you play S or S2 regularly, so it doesn't matter to me if the title "ultimate" is misleading or not. Not to me at least...

[ljkkjlcm9]

On 2007-09-29 12:39, Zorafim wrote:

On 2007-09-29 11:33, InfiniDragon wrote:
Saber PA is the one with the stupid dropkick at the end, right? I'd hardly call that one "ultimate".



I don't know. 1k damage per hit on a quick PA seems rather ultimate to me.


with a good saber you could easily get over 1500 a hit, with a high leveled PA, and 3k critical. Seen as high as 3300(about) damage critical on the dropkick

THE JACKEL

[MrNomad]

Frankly in terms of all the weapon UPAs I have, I dont think they could be called ultimate, considering each one has very good stats, but suck in one part or another. The Ult axe pa has a big hit radius and is great for damaging de ragan and thats about it, unless you're in a party that can distract mobs this pa is too vulnerable on its own. Compared to the 1st single claw pa the ult seems weaker, but that wont be the case in AoI since the 1st pa is getting nerfed (why??) I consider the spear ult pa to be in the same boat as the axe, great in parties, mediocre alone. Tornado dance seems to be the exception actually, great alone bad in parties depending on the mission. Nothing against ult PAs, just they usually seem to be all damage and nothing else (again, except TD) which I dont like

[relentless]

lol That's funny. xD I didn't know people would care so much for ultimate PAs being called ultimate PAs. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif
I still say it's just a friggin' name. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[MrNomad]

On 2007-09-29 14:08, SeKaI wrote:
lol That's funny. xD I didn't know people would care so much for ultimate PAs being called ultimate PAs. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif
I still say it's just a friggin' name. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Well, I wouldn't have given it that name considering the crap thats going on now > >

[Mayu]

Dus Majira
Gravity Break
Spinning Strike

Yeah there pretty epic http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Not sure about the dagger one <<

[Sol-Edge]

Which one of these has gotten nerfed in the JP servers and how bad?

[Mayu]

I don't think they been nerfed have they? o.0

[Ffuzzy-Logik]

On 2007-09-29 16:34, Sol-Edge wrote:
Which one of these has gotten nerfed in the JP servers and how bad?

None of them.

Some other earlier PAs got buffed, though.

[HFlowen]

Nothing was nerfed. A lot of the other PA's got a boost.

[Mayu]

Thank you http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

[Rashiid]

i call them the 3rd PA's.

nexx wave will be the 4th

and so on.

[Sol-Edge]

Oh my god. Thats great news! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Vitamin_D]

On 2007-09-29 11:33, InfiniDragon wrote:
Saber PA is the one with the stupid dropkick at the end, right? I'd hardly call that one "ultimate".



Are you kidding? That's why it's ultimate. There's nothing more satisfying than drop kicking a Delsaban in the face. NOTHING. It's ultimate +9001 (which is over 9000).

[Shishi-O]

On 2007-09-30 07:49, Vitamin_D wrote:

On 2007-09-29 11:33, InfiniDragon wrote:
Saber PA is the one with the stupid dropkick at the end, right? I'd hardly call that one "ultimate".



Are you kidding? That's why it's ultimate. There's nothing more satisfying than drop kicking a Delsaban in the face. NOTHING. It's ultimate +9001 (which is over 9000).

lolz

[relentless]

On 2007-09-30 07:49, Vitamin_D wrote:
Are you kidding? That's why it's ultimate. There's nothing more satisfying than drop kicking a Delsaban in the face. NOTHING. It's ultimate +9001 (which is over 9000).

I'd prefer charging the Axe at him and smacking his face with all you got. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif But drop kicking is a good one, too..~

[ThEoRy]

I call them, "PA's that have been on the disk the entire time which we've all been paying for for months now and SEGA finally decides to let us poor souls finally have a taste of what PSU was supposed to feel like all along."

[Zorafim]

Drop kicks have no practical value. Any damage you do could be done with two flying kicks, which don't require you to fall on the floor, allowing a third kick.

[relentless]

On 2007-09-30 11:37, ThEoRy wrote:
I call them, "PA's that have been on the disk the entire time which we've all been paying for for months now and SEGA finally decides to let us poor souls finally have a taste of what PSU was supposed to feel like all along."


My suggestion to call 'em: UPA http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
And I don't care if they're ultimate or not. :3
People shouldn't mess around too much with this. n_n
blah blah etc. etc. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

[Vitamin_D]

Hahaha most of you guys are so uptight. Who cares about practicality when there's badassery!? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Furthermore: http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=2222054

Phoenix said it, so it must be true.

[PJ]

On 2007-09-30 11:37, ThEoRy wrote:
BAAAAAWWW

[Zorafim]

Practicality leads to badassery. If it isn't smooth and elegant, there's no reason to use it for looks.

[Vitamin_D]

Well I say the less elegant it is, the more badassery it holds. Different strokes different folks and all that I guess.

[Jakosifer]

I have Hikai but I'm too lazy to level it up...I'll get around to it because I want to spindash. At the moment it doesn't seem so ultimate, and from what Ive heard about 11+....only makes me less enthusiastic. Might try Dus Majarra or Gravity Break to have a broken PA, not to sure on the bullets.

PS: Why does calling them Ultimate PA's (or something other) matter so much?

[-Ryuki-]

On 2007-09-30 11:54, Vitamin_D wrote:
Hahaha most of you guys are so uptight. Who cares about practicality when there's badassery!? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Furthermore: http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=2222054

Phoenix said it, so it must be true.

I'm going to have to agree on two parts.

Nightmare of Soul Calibur has a dropkick, and it's one hell of a dropkick at that.

Phoenix Wright said it himself, and we all know Phoenix Wright is awesome.

[ThEoRy]

lol oops I forgot to say "I keed I keed http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif "

[AxelgearVII]

On 2007-09-29 03:17, Hrith wrote:
I call them VIIFPAs ;o



Since Axel Factor is a higher power than "ultimate", that term is reserved the new PA's that will appear in AoI.

[Zorafim]

On 2007-09-30 11:59, Vitamin_D wrote:
Different strokes different folks and all that I guess.




In this case, it is a heavy truth. I much prefer wasteless, smooth movements in my characters unless I'm using a berserker.

[Freshellent]

On 2007-09-30 12:08, RyukiZero wrote:



Nightmare of Soul Calibur has a dropkick, and it's one hell of a dropkick at that.



Glad someone else thought of that,It was so funny to bust out over low pokes in the 2nd game,I had a few people leave the arcade on me when I did it.

[A2K]

"Ultimate" also can mean "last in a series"--and as a whole group they are the last photon arts to be released, after all.

[TetsuyaHikari]

I don't know..I think Gravity Break is rather "Ultimate" >.>

I have it at level 22 right now and if things keep going at this pace, it should reach 400% ATT at level 30.

Last night was the first time I had ever hit for:

3,144

I'd say that's pretty "Ultimate" in my own opinion http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

Fun Fact: Sekai's title translates to, "You yoma...you yoma!! I won't forgive you!!"

Claymore FTW http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif



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[Zorafim]

Wow, even a mod is doubleposting.

[Kerry157]

You might be surprised what the actual definition of 'ultimate' is.

http://www.m-w.com



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[Pengfishh]

There's a certain connotation of "ultimate" that I'm sure most people think of, however. Ultimate as the best rather than simply the last.

[AweOfShe]

On 2007-09-30 11:54, Vitamin_D wrote:
Hahaha most of you guys are so uptight.


Truth.

And with that said, PAs need more "JORRIIIII ROGAAAAA!!!!!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJKRMqyGVMU)

[Miyuki-chan]

On 2007-09-30 15:23, A2K wrote:
"Ultimate" also can mean "last in a series"--and as a whole group they are the last photon arts to be released, after all.



i highly doubt they are the last PAs to be released, maybe the last before AoI, but certainly not the absolute last. There has already been info put out about a few new PAs to be released in AoI.

Aside from that, if these PAs were actually "ultimate" shouldnt they be "S" rank?

[A2K]

I wasn't speaking of Ambition of the Illuminus. These are certainly the last photon arts in the base game, though.