Abstain from Synthing till Aoi and/or 1up?

[Kimil]

After two weeks of casual Leveling, I built up a good amount of synthing items so I thought I'd try to make a good pair of Earth Katsuno-Zashis. I put 4 of them into the PM, hoping at least one would come out decently...

1) Monomate
2) Dimate
3) Sol Atomizer
4) 14% Earth ( my current one is 30% earth, soo... this 14% one is useless )

A bit mad, I log on to PSOW to see the new JP pics... Their shiny S ranks and high % weps T_T Jealousy ensues.

I'm at the point where I'm wondering if Synthing is even worth it till AoI or the bonus week of 1up, anyone else feeling the same way?

[lethe]

I feel the same way >.>

i once failed 6 ulteri's in a row, synthing was supposed to be how i got my big break in this game and get some pretty good money but, turned out the other way, ive failed more weapons than ive made successfully and my bot has 100 range.....i dont get it when i hear about other ppls bots making phantom after phantom or what not -_- really annoying, ive made around (or should i say attempted to make) 100 or so 7-9* guns and about 80% or more have failed, so i said screw it im waiting =P

[Dj_SkyEpic]

Start synthing around 1up. I remember synth % increased.

[lethe]

So the synth rate goes up before 1up is over? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif If this is true then dammit microsoft send me back my xbox already! oh wait....i havent sent it out yet....well then send me the box!

[Cz]

~~~ that is one reason why i didnt like to synth melee weapons because of the %. Guns and range doesnt have elemental %...yay! If you wanna synth melee, i suggest you save up materials and photon for now and do them later all at once. ~~~

[A2K]

Unless it's an extremely rare sort of rare (i.e. Psycho Wand, Agito Repca, et al.) I wouldn't have the patience to wait until Ambition of the Illuminus. We still have (at the very least) two months until then.


On 2007-10-05 00:52, Dj_SkyEpic wrote:
Start synthing around 1up. I remember synth % increased.

One of the point goal prizes was a fifteen or twenty percent increase in all synthesis rates. I don't recall any other rate increases either during or after, though.

[imfanboy]

Yes, I'm waiting to synth too - I've got like 3 and a half stacks of vulcaline, 2 stacks of each photon type but Zon (for some reason I just can't seem to get a ton of those!), a stack of Par and Neu Ebon...

But until I can spend it synthing some of the new cool looking weapons in AotI, I ain't interested.

Well, I'll synth some armor during the 1up Cup rewards, but other than that... nope, no synthing at all.

The plus side is my expenses will be low, because I'll have all these synth mats saved up!

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[Dragwind]

I must say, i'm also one of those waiting for increased synth rates. I just don't like to pay 200k for a dimate.

[CelestialBlade]

I'm definitely waiting. And if the drop rates in AoI really are as good as they seem to be....well, saving up all these S-grade synth mats is going to really pay off.

[Golto]

If you can wait for AOI. Higher snyth success %, better chances of higher %, and a lot shorter snyth times. Armors get a good jump in snyth %. If you want to see some of the % go look for the snyth % topic.

[panzer_unit]

I'm saving my bil de axe and vahra claw boards for AOI. In the meanwhile I'm making various mid-rank A and B weapons whenever I've scrounged enough materials. Hey they might come out with 50% or something.

[Rashiid]

also remember; by waiting for Aoti; you may get like a 2% weapon (if i saw from the screenshot thread correctily); instead of a automatic 10%+ one.

la-la la...

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[Turambar]

I thought that was a casino only weapon percentage.

[Golto]

Pre AOI average element 18%? in AOI average % 26-28%.

[Rashiid]

rly? oh; in that case; eff what i said. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

[Kietrinia]

I'll keep synthing my Howrods before and after AoI/1-up. I still make a profit on them with the current synth rates. ^-^

Just wish people would know what the NPC price on Neu Ebon was. Only 20 shops on PC sell it, and the lowest price is Zelas' NPC Price Store. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

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[CelestialBlade]

On 2007-10-05 07:13, Kietrinia wrote:
I'll keep synthing my Howrods before and after AoI/1-up. I still make a profit on them with the current synth rates. ^-^

Just wish people would know what the NPC price on Neu Ebon was. Only 20 shops on PC sell it, and the lowest price is Zelas' NPC Price Store. :(

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Haha what, it ate my message.

I suppose this means I need to restock my 2k Neu Ebon shop again >_>;



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[Shishi-O]

On 2007-10-05 03:39, Dragwind wrote:
I must say, i'm also one of those waiting for increased synth rates. I just don't like to pay 200k for a dimate.

wow 200k...try a monomate.

[OldCoot]

Looks like that supply of Vulcaline, Vestaline and Kerseline are going to be used after all. With how terrible the failure rates are, I just do not want to waste meseta on buying boards to get monomates. Now, if I get a free board from a drop I will go for it, but until the rates change, I will stick to just saving for the most part.

[Sexy_Raine]

We're not getting the bonus rewards after 1-up because AOI is too close. AOI will already give us better synth rates, so there is no need to worry. We could've used that bonus 10% earlier that JP got though. :

[EspioKaos]

Remember, folks: if the Platinum Cup follows the style of the Famitsu Cup (I don't see why it wouldn't*), we have to earn the increased synth success rates. They are one of the last rewards on the point roster, so we'll have to work hard for it.

* On the rewards system, I'm positive many of the rewards will change from the Famitsu Cup's rewards. Specifically the not-in-game stuff like Net Cash cards, QUO cards, game giveaways and Pete pencil toppers. I foresee other various in-game rewards taking the place of those things.

On topic, if I manage to find some really good (TECHNIC weapon) synthesis boards, I'm going to try to hold on to them until AotI is released. Unless, of course, we do get the beefed up success rate reward; then I'll synth them right away. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

[omegapirate2k]

I highly suggest you wait until the rates increase, especially with the large amount of S ranks everyone is going to be finding in the 1 up cup.

[Golto]

EspioKaos I thought I saw snyth % increase rewards for armor/weapons start at 10%. 600k and 800k rewards. Do you think this time around they will finally take in account our much smaller total population and lower the point requirements?

[EspioKaos]

On 2007-10-05 09:42, Golto wrote:
EspioKaos I thought I saw snyth % increase rewards for armor/weapons start at 10%. 600k and 800k rewards. Do you think this time around they will finally take in account our much smaller total population and lower the point requirements?

I hope they take that into account this time! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

I just checked the reward chart (http://phantasystaruniverse.jp/event/famitsucup2007/) again, and you're right about the 10% increase. Forgot they started that early. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

[beatrixkiddo]

No, they should raise the point requirements like they did with Firebreak!

[stukasa]

Wow, and here I thought I was the only one waiting! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif Like you, Kimil, I was getting sick of getting weapons with 10%-18% (if they came out at all). It's just not worth the time and money mass synthing now when the odds are so much better in AoI. I still synth a few things here and there but I'm definitely waiting for the increased odds before I do anymore mass synthing.

[EspioKaos]

On 2007-10-05 10:27, beatrixkiddo wrote:
No, they should raise the point requirements like they did with Firebreak!

D:

*Megid*

[SolomonGrundy]

In general synthing does not pay off, but I would at least await until the 1-up cup reward, or AoI

Consider
vulcaline sells for 7.5K ea (6 needed)
ebon sells for 3K ea (9 needed)
7* hard metal sell for 1 K each (3-9 needed)
Boards, if you found them, sell for 120K
Photons incidental

total amount of meseta you can get for the 3 synths

135K in vulcaline
81K in ebon
18K in hard metal
120K for board

that's about 350K - how many synths attempts will it take you to get a 30+% weapon?

better to sell everything you find, take the money, and buy your weapons from player shops.

synthing is for the very rich, or the very lucky.

[CelestialBlade]

On 2007-10-05 11:06, SolomonGrundy wrote:
In general synthing does not pay off, but I would at least await until the 1-up cup reward, or AoI

Consider
vulcaline sells for 7.5K ea (6 needed)
ebon sells for 3K ea (9 needed)
7* hard metal sell for 1 K each (3-9 needed)
Boards, if you found them, sell for 120K
Photons incidental

total amount of meseta you can get for the 3 synths

135K in vulcaline
81K in ebon
18K in hard metal
120K for board

that's about 350K - how many synths attempts will it take you to get a 30+% weapon?

better to sell everything you find, take the money, and buy your weapons from player shops.

synthing is for the very rich, or the very lucky.





*everyone follows this guide*

*weapons market dies*

YOU WIN: ECONOMALITY