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SolomonGrundy
Oct 9, 2007, 12:07 AM
I am considering getting this PA. it's more accurate than traditional shotgun PAs, so if it can hit for at least 1 pint of damage...

barnacleez
Oct 9, 2007, 12:13 AM
I've got the stats for Barada Maga lv27.

Att. : 135%
Acc. : 107%
Lower ATA/EVP LV2

Att. maxes at 20, but the Acc. goes up by 1% each time it levels afterwards. I'll assume it ends w/ 110% accuracy if it follows the same pattern throughout.

(Hello PSO-W)

pikachief
Oct 9, 2007, 12:14 AM
On 2007-10-08 22:13, barnacleez wrote:
I've got the stats for Barada Maga lv27.

Att. : 135%
Acc. : 107%
Lower ATA/EVP LV2

Att. maxes at 20, but the Acc. goes up by 1% each time it levels afterwards. I'll assume it ends w/ 110% accuracy if it follows the same pattern throughout.

(Hello PSO-W)



elcome barnacleez!

and yea i dont think that shotgun shot is that reat considering its PP cost http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

barnacleez
Oct 9, 2007, 12:23 AM
Thanks for the welcome!


I don't think the PP cost is TOO bad (24 as fG) since the bullet's only really used for tagging mobs and not for damage, plus shotguns have plenty of PP to compensate.

I like it though, I'm still using it nowadays so as to be party-friendly to all the melee classes in my party.

pikachief
Oct 9, 2007, 12:24 AM
On 2007-10-08 22:23, barnacleez wrote:
Thanks for the welcome!


I don't think the PP cost is TOO bad (24 as fG) since the bullet's only really used for tagging mobs and not for damage, plus shotguns have plenty of PP to compensate.

I like it though, I'm still using it nowadays so as to be party-friendly to all the melee classes in my party.



i would get it if i had more room http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif i like taggins stuff with my twin pistols http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

and mmy friend did give me an extra shigga bines http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Chibi_psu
Oct 9, 2007, 01:42 AM
I have it at 28 right now and i like it.Zodeel is really useful for beast fortefighters http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Golto
Oct 9, 2007, 11:50 AM
The pre-AOI patch really improved Barada Maga's stats.

165% atp lvl 21-30
130% ata at lvl 30
lower ata SE lvl 3


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biggabertha
Oct 9, 2007, 12:16 PM
Whoah, it gets a LOT more ATP and 20% more ATA?! Man, that's really something!

man oh man, SE 3 is also pretty awesome! (Shame I already have mine leveld to 30 though, I enjoyed leveling it up and seeing the yellow down arrows while people are wondering where the debuffing FOrtetecher/Wartecher/Guntecher is!)

SolomonGrundy
Oct 9, 2007, 12:48 PM
good, it needed it. Barada megia was/is 150% ATP mod, and thhe ultimate shotgun will never have the benefit of an elemental bonus.

IsoDonk
Nov 19, 2007, 04:38 AM
I'm also thinking of getting this - figured it'd be easier to hijack an existing thread than create a new one.

I only have two questions on it before I splash out my hard-earned frags though:

1. How fast does it level? Normal shotgun bullets are slo-o-o-o-o-o-o-w to level
2. If a bullet hits, is it guaranteed to apply Zoldeel against appropriate-sized mobs, or is it like normal SEs where you only have a chance of hitting?

Jife_Jifremok
Nov 19, 2007, 04:42 AM
If I remember right, it's as slow to level as other shotgun bullets, but shotguns are awesome so it aint so bad. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Zodeel is guaranteed to apply if it hits. And I don't think enemy size matters at all.

IsoDonk
Nov 19, 2007, 04:46 AM
Shotguns aren't awesome if you're a PT, which is the entire point of my reason to purchase this PA http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif I can live with it being slow if it works well though. I need more PA frags anyway so there's no harm in leveling it in the process, I reckon http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Thanks much!

Jife_Jifremok
Nov 19, 2007, 04:58 AM
PT has good ATP now, just so you know. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

IsoDonk
Nov 19, 2007, 05:01 AM
I still don't think it's enough to warrant the time to level all the elemental bullets though, when melee can apply in 99% of the instances I would use a shotgun. Maybe if I was a Fortegunner, but... http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Jife_Jifremok
Nov 19, 2007, 05:25 AM
Well, the shotgunner with all elemental bullets has the advantage of only really needing one shotgun and can switch bullets from the menu. The blademaster has to deal with a lot of pain-in-the-ass weapon switching and inventory management, especially if using multiple weapon types...and may even need to worry about elemental % when upgrading weapons?

On the other hand, the shotgunner has a lot of pain-in-the-ass bullet leveling to do....so really, it all comes down to which form of hassle you wanna deal with. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

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Carlo210
Nov 19, 2007, 05:51 AM
And the pure shotgunner has a lot of boring gameplay to deal with too. lol

Carlo210
Nov 19, 2007, 05:55 AM
And the pure shotgunner has a lot of boring gameplay to deal with too. lol

IsoDonk
Nov 19, 2007, 06:05 AM
Yep, all good points. I just think, after levelling over 100 levels of shotgun bullet so far, that Barada Maga should suit my playstyle a bit better http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif There's always the elementals to fall back on too, they're all at 15 and the arguably most useful one (dark) is at about 22 if I'm looking for virus.

biggabertha
Nov 19, 2007, 03:20 PM
I have all six elemental bullets at Lv. 30, Barada Maga at Lv. 30 and Barada Chamga at Lv. 21. The shotgun has gone from "OK" to "much better" now for Protransers. Heck, I tried leveling it up last night and our ATP is so good now, my Shigga Wadda (9) was only dealing 10 less damage per bullet than my Shigga Bines (1) with Barada Chamga. Barada Maga's Zoldeel Lv. 2 was terrifyingly awesome for parties that include Zodiarides or Zodial and now it's even better with Zoldeel effect Lv. 3. It's an extremely good, party-friendly shotgun bullet as opposed to perhaps the other elemental bullets that you use for SEs. If you're after pure damage though, you shouldn't be a Protranser for shotgunning.

I don't think shotguns level particularly slowly at all in comparison to some other bullets but being a Protranser, it's good to have versatility with your workhorse weapon. I leveled all of my elemental shotgun bullets to Lv. 20 doing Sleeping Warriors C back last year in December as a rising Ranger getting to RA 5 with a handful of Shigga Waddas.