PSU: Question about Units in 1up

[WolfBlade]

I know the weapon drops in event but, are there are units drops?

[Turb0]

Yes, but I have a question about that too. Are the rainbow and HP restore units that drop just the 4* mega ones or higher versions?

Oh btw, the unit drops are solid/power s, har/quick, sori/force, and some others.

[Golto]

Most notable new units that will only drop during this event are Tero/ Rainbow and Hard/ Hp Restore.

[Turb0]

Ok cool. I've heard they would be mega, tero, hard, and solid so I wasn't sure lol.

EDIT: Just thought of another question. So is the HP restore have lv2 or lv3 restore? Also, I just noticed that me/hp restore isn't in the extra slot list on the database anymore.

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[Golto]

Solid/ Hp restore is a mistake by someone and remember there are 3 ranks for the missions. Me Hp in C, tero in B, and Hard in A colony ex end boxes.

[Itsuki]

keep in mind that the higher up versions of restores recover more per tick but the ticks are more spread out. So me/HP Restore actually restores the MOST over time.

[FOnewearl-Lina]

On 2007-10-11 16:35, WolfBlade wrote:
I know the weapon drops in event but, are there are units drops?

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y274/FoLina/PSU/psu20070601_141016_001.jpg
By the time cups over, everyone and their brother will have 99 skillsaves! (unless they give you event rappies during cup, which we didn't get)

[WolfBlade]

so does HPC or SPS drop?

[AerisZeal]

*Looks at second post* >.> Yes, SPS will drop.

[WolfBlade]

On 2007-10-11 20:11, AerisZeal wrote:
*Looks at second post* >.> Yes, SPS will drop.

I saw dat I was just double checking

[AerisZeal]

Oh, well if that's the case... Yea, SPS will be dropping. As far as I can
tell though there won't be anywhere for HPC to drop. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

[Turb0]

Yeah I've been looking at this (http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1342000&postcount=452 ) and it sounds like everything's right (except the rainbow and hp restore units apparently)

[Wallin]

I don't know how accurate that is since it only gives the drops on A rank, not B or C. At least I think so since Me/Quick isn't on there.

[WolfBlade]

yea im kinda confuse on the me/quick part some say it gonna drop, others say no, but oh well at least for sure har/quick gonna drop.

[ljkkjlcm9]

On 2007-10-11 16:44, Golto wrote:
Most notable new units that will only drop during this event are Tero/ Rainbow and Hard/ Hp Restore.


pfft
tero/all save is my most desired unit for my Figh and my acrofighter
then hard/hp restore

THE JACKEL

[Itsuki]

On 2007-10-11 23:05, ljkkjlcm9 wrote:

On 2007-10-11 16:44, Golto wrote:
Most notable new units that will only drop during this event are Tero/ Rainbow and Hard/ Hp Restore.


pfft
tero/all save is my most desired unit for my Figh and my acrofighter
then hard/hp restore

THE JACKEL


Umm... but all save sucks? I mean, 10% less PP usage... thats all of... 1 PP less on most PAs...

And for the final time, Mei/Quick drops in the neudaiz EX Missions on C.

[Lyrise]

Tero/AllSave sucks, not because its -10%pp, but because of the penalties associated with it. (Somewhere along the lines of -100/-50)

As for the regen units, yes, higher units will spread your ticks out a little more. BUT over a long period of time, Hald/HP Restorate will still regenerate the most HP. It's just that if you need HP in a hurry for those clutch plays (which do happen mind you), mei/HPrestorate will work better due to the time in between regeneration ticks.

[ljkkjlcm9]

On 2007-10-12 08:57, Lyrise wrote:
Tero/AllSave sucks, not because its -10%pp, but because of the penalties associated with it. (Somewhere along the lines of -100/-50)

more like -50/-25
which is really nothing it all
Say what you want, but for a fighgunner, it's good help, considering the class gets no inherent PP reduction

THE JACKEL

[Lyrise]

It won't last long assuming the expansion release date doesn't change. Allsave can't be found until the Trial of Heavenly Luck opens, and that's the last 2 weeks. That leaves about 2 weeks in between the the time you can get it and expansion. In expansion, you'll have the PP recovery system in play, making it all but obsolete, unless the only button that gets pressed on your gamepad is the PA button.

BTW, Allsave is -100/-60. You can also see just how much the Japanese value this unit:

http://arc-drive.com/images/psu/AoI/Allsave.jpg

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[Mr_Confused]

I want an allsave for my protranser, its pp recovery rate sux.

[SolomonGrundy]

why would they make HP recovery untis have that issue. Cati power gives ATP than mega / power.

It's a higher rank unit. It should work *better*

[Golto]

I guess 3%, up to 5% whenever the 5th hp/restore is out, is a bit too much at the small tick interval. ST likes the law of diminishing returns a bit too much if you ask me.

[Reginaldo]

On 2007-10-12 10:43, Lyrise wrote:
It won't last long assuming the expansion release date doesn't change. Allsave can't be found until the Trial of Heavenly Luck opens, and that's the last 2 weeks. That leaves about 2 weeks in between the the time you can get it and expansion. In expansion, you'll have the PP recovery system in play, making it all but obsolete, unless the only button that gets pressed on your gamepad is the PA button.

BTW, Allsave is -100/-60. You can also see just how much the Japanese value this unit:

http://arc-drive.com/images/psu/AoI/Allsave.jpg

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So then what about the picture of the Tero / All Save in the item datebase? Is that a different item altogether or did the unit itself change in the expansion?

[Reginaldo]

Nevermind, I just noticed both items in the picture have the same text, I guess Sega made it worse in AoI >.>

[panzer_unit]

On 2007-10-12 08:57, Lyrise wrote:
Tero/AllSave sucks, not because its -10%pp, but because of the penalties associated with it. (Somewhere along the lines of -100/-50)


... it would be pretty sweet for training skills.

Since you lose the obligatory Mega/Power everyone who hasn't got a rare arm unit runs around with, the actual tradeoff is -150 ATP for 10% PP... only a fortefighter using axes is going to get more from reduced PP costs than they give up in raw damage. A fF or FG using a grinded Caliburn might break even.

[WildArms2]

On 2007-10-11 22:58, WolfBlade wrote:
yea im kinda confuse on the me/quick part some say it gonna drop, others say no, but oh well at least for sure har/quick gonna drop.



reason being is becuase that is a list for A rank runs ME quick drops on C and B rank runs not A

[ljkkjlcm9]

that's absurd, why'd they make that unit so much worse in AoI?!?!?!

THE JACKEL

[panzer_unit]

On 2007-10-12 13:05, ljkkjlcm9 wrote:
that's absurd, why'd they make that unit so much worse in AoI?!?!?!

THE JACKEL


Probably to balance it off against the enormous ATP increases. When you've got 1500 ATP naked and an 11* sword, 150 ATP is probably a drop in the bucket.

Speaking of which, did Hard/Power Charge get a boost to ATP or a lower cost increase? That +95 ATP is going to look pretty minor in AOI.

[Lyrise]

Are you guys sure you're looking at online mode? The stats for both Allsave and HPC have always been -100/-60 and +160atp even prior to expansion...

[WolfBlade]

wat funny is if u look in pso-world/official trade forum units dat drops in 1up r still worth like ALOT!!

[ljkkjlcm9]

On 2007-10-12 16:59, Lyrise wrote:
Are you guys sure you're looking at online mode? The stats for both Allsave and HPC have always been -100/-60 and +160atp even prior to expansion...


http://www.pso-world.com/psu/items/1831/5101-m.jpg
that was a player shop so no it wasn't always that way

meh reggie posted it, but that's the pic

THE JACKEL



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[Reginaldo]

On 2007-10-12 16:59, Lyrise wrote:
Are you guys sure you're looking at online mode? The stats for both Allsave and HPC have always been -100/-60 and +160atp even prior to expansion...



Positive. If you look at the picture of the unit in the datebase the person is viewing it in a player shop. It says -50 ATP and -25 ATA. Here's the link.

http://www.pso-world.com/items/psu/3/1831/tero___all_save/