AotI: does anyone have the link to the different class stat

[majan]

topic. people used to have the images all over the place and now that the game is actually out over in japan the friggin charts are MIA.anybody have them?I checked the sticky and its not there and I checked a bunch of other threads too and theyre nowhere so dont come in and say go dig it up cus I looked.

[Nyreal]

PSUpedia is dead right now, though I understand your frustration. People can be jerks about the search function, as if their post count would be there if noone asked things.

I suggest checking PSUpedia.info whenever the site comes back up.

[Golto]

From JPn psu wiki

type lvl 10
type-HP-ATP-ATA-TP-DFP-EVD-MST-END
HU 130-125-90--30-145-80--50--100
RA 100--90-145-35-100-120-60--110
FO 90--70--75-130-100-160-150--100
FG 116-128-126-75-120-90--70--120
GT 104-100-160-88-90--120-100-120
WT 130-112-80--112-122-160-130-100
fF 136-150-100-30--150-50--66--100
fG 116-120-200-75--80--140-66--125
fT 78--60--60--144-60--200-245-100
PT 120-110-100-30--80--100-80--100
AF 124-124-130-136-140-230-100-120
AT 110-96--140-128-100-210-180-100

type lvl 15
type-HP-ATP-ATA-TP-DFP-EVD-MST-END
HU
RA same as type lvl 10
FO
FG 126-138-136-75--130-110-80--120
GT lol
WT 140-122-92--122-132-170-140-100
FF 149-168-110-30--160-50--76--100
FG 122-130-220-75--100-140-76--125
FT lol
PT 130-120-110-30--90--100-90--100
AF 134-134-140-145-150-240-110-120
AT 116-106-150-138-110-220-190-100

[Rashiid]

er, why is fT and GT...lol?

and is tha 1st FG figun or fortegunner?

[Golto]

Just look for the 200+ ata for FtG. Lol because they have no data meaning they are not very popular types in AOI. death to FT

[HFlowen]

Oh cool, Protrans gets some more ata towards level 15.

Good to know, I hate missing.

[RegulusHikari]

Ouch, looks like AF seriously kills Figun.

[Rashiid]

On 2007-10-18 15:07, Golto wrote:
Just look for the 200+ ata for FtG. Lol because they have no data meaning they are not very popular types in AOI. death to FT



oh lol, didnt notice.

[FOnewearl-Lina]

On 2007-10-18 15:09, RegulusHikari wrote:
Ouch, looks like AF seriously kills Figun.

Yep, every other stat apart from ATP on AF significantly higher than on FiG.
When you got a choice between AF and FF the only thing going for FiG is Double Sabers, and most of those look like ugly paddles, no thanks. Makes you wonder what ST was thinking.

[Kimil]

WHY IN THE HELL is AF's Def Stats so bloody high?!
I thought WT had the title of Best Defensive Hunter (Only class to be high in all DEF, HP, EVA and MST at the same time. Not to mention Resta)
These buggers have the best Evade... Why the hell do they get such high HP AND DEF also?!
THIS IS BULSHIT

They're just like the Bug enemies >=X

[RegulusHikari]

It's a shame that the class with the least attractive weapon selection to me has the ideal stats I want. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_mad.gif

[pikachief]

On 2007-10-18 15:41, RegulusHikari wrote:
It's a shame that the class with the least attractive weapon selection to me has the ideal stats I want. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_mad.gif



what class acrofighter? its a lot more fun than u think http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Kimil]

Acro fighter has a good majority of my favorite Weapons:
Single Dagger/Saber/Claw S rank which is good because I have an S-rank Deva Zashi
Twin Dagger, Dualies, and Card A rank which is fine because I only have a ranks in these categories http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

The TP of my Beast wont be too bad of a problem because of my Sori-Force too... so... AF... looks so sexy =:/

[omegapirate2k]

On 2007-10-18 15:36, FOnewearl-Lina wrote:

On 2007-10-18 15:09, RegulusHikari wrote:
Ouch, looks like AF seriously kills Figun.

Yep, every other stat apart from ATP on AF significantly higher than on FiG.
When you got a choice between AF and FF the only thing going for FiG is Double Sabers, and most of those look like ugly paddles, no thanks. Makes you wonder what ST was thinking.



It is rather strange how acrofighter, supposedly relying mainly on evasion, somehow has higher hp, mst, and dfp than a fighgunner.

[HFlowen]

Acrofighter's weapon selection is kinda "meh" anyway.

[pikachief]

yea thats how i explain acrofighter to everyone.

A much better fighgunner and quicker, but with a much smaller weapon selection.

Personally, if i can use cards and an S rnak slicer i like it.

[Soukosa]

On 2007-10-18 15:07, Golto wrote:
Just look for the 200+ ata for FtG. Lol because they have no data meaning they are not very popular types in AOI. death to FT

So unpopular that FT was one the first types I saw stats for at lv 15 http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif

FYI, all types but FF, FG, FI, PT, and AF have new stat mods for lv 1~15 figured out with every type having lv 10~15 done. I know this because I did it myself. The Wiki and I are terms with each other to share things.

The JP community actually cares enough to be helpful with things here, rather than sitting on their asses expecting things to be given to them on a silver platter and then when they don't get it, they look at the sources as incompetent idiots and flaunt their e-viagra as if they're gonna figure it out on their own (when they never do). You especially.

[PJ]

lol people flipping out for Acrofighter stats being so great.

They're only great because their weapon selection sucks big time.

[FOnewearl-Lina]

On 2007-10-18 17:49, Soukosa wrote:
The JP community actually cares enough to be helpful with things here, rather than sitting on their asses expecting things to be given to them on a silver platter and then when they don't get it, they look at the sources as incompetent idiots and flaunt their e-viagra as if they're gonna figure it out on their own (when they never do). You especially.

Ya rly, JP players work real hard. Instead they're all sitting around on their asses in the lobby afk-leeching type-experience from muryou parties. Almost everyone there has every type level at 15 because of this.

[Pillan]

fT 84-66-70-154-70-200-245-100
GT 110-107-170-94-100-120-110-120

Taken from a link below the stat modifier chart.


EDIT:

Also HU has a 70% TP mod and RA has a 75% one so that they can better use shadoogs.

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[majan]

On 2007-10-18 17:49, Soukosa wrote:

On 2007-10-18 15:07, Golto wrote:
Just look for the 200+ ata for FtG. Lol because they have no data meaning they are not very popular types in AOI. death to FT

So unpopular that FT was one the first types I saw stats for at lv 15 http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif

FYI, all types but FF, FG, FI, PT, and AF have new stat mods for lv 1~15 figured out with every type having lv 10~15 done. I know this because I did it myself. The Wiki and I are terms with each other to share things.

The JP community actually cares enough to be helpful with things here, rather than sitting on their asses expecting things to be given to them on a silver platter and then when they don't get it, they look at the sources as incompetent idiots and flaunt their e-viagra as if they're gonna figure it out on their own (when they never do). You especially.



hey listen im sorry I dont have time to get an efficient japanese translator on my computer to get it off of the jpn wiki site and all that business.a while back in the stick thread there was a nicely translated and set up set of charts with new stats vs old stats and Im sure more than a few people know wat Im talking about.those charts disappeared and I was just inquiring if anybody had seen them or had new links of all the things compiled together.I havent flaunted much e-viagra and Im not quite sure wat your getting at with it but if you want to call me lazy thats fine,thats why people invented message boards,to answer questions and discuss things about them.

consider me a lazy american bum,but if theres a question I can answer on these boards I simply click the link,and post the answer.no fuss,no comments to the OP,unless hes a complete jackass and the question is just nonsense.Im not sure that's the case here.

on topic,yeah,it seems I underestimated the tankly advantage AF's have over fighgunners.I may have to re assess some decisions cus those are prtty big numbers and they way they seem to have re-worked the whole system of damage and whatnot may change what classes have advantages in what...I like the style of fighgunner but if its straight up inferior then that just kinda blows,but I guess time will tell.

Im wondering if fT will actually in fact be outdamaged by AT though with the whole fast-cast thing.the at-ft TP gap isnt very big...and if at's can outdamage an ft,then that would compeltely defeat the purpose of ft's,which is why Im so concerned because Im not gonna have a weak ass fortetecher that cant keep up with a stronger more hp acrotecher that is cleaning a lot more house than I am.

[Kimil]

There's Nothing wrong With Acro-Fighter's Weapon Selection. Minus Spear, Acrofighter contains all the melee weapon types I use and two ranged weapons I love too (Cards and Dualies).

In my eyes, AF is ridiculously over powered for a speedy oriented fighter

[Shishi-O]

i would like to suggest

1. fighgunner= Fi

2. fortegunner= FG

[realP]

I would have to say that I still think Acrofighter is broken. I am still amazed that a class that takes 5 ranger levels is more melee focused. I do not think there weapon selection is limited enough, as their stats are way high. I would have to say take away some of their S ranks and I might say they were more balanced.

[Remedy]

I like how Fortechers get no adjustment of our level 10 stats whatsoever. Awesome. It's like Sega never quit hating Forces in PSO! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

[Schubalts]

You call being able to deal more single-hit damage than pretty much everybody, as FT being hated by Sonic Team?

[Remedy]

On 2007-10-22 14:24, Schubalts wrote:
You call being able to deal more single-hit damage than pretty much everybody, as FT being hated by Sonic Team?Uh, no?

FFs are able to pull off some stupid attack that does like... 4.5k (see screenshot thread). You show me the Fortecher that can do 4.5k to anything with one hit.

Maybe, MAYBE, a 110/15 Female Newman Fortecher with a 12% Psycho Wand and Diga 40 on a Lightning enemy. MAYBE.

Edit: And single-hit damage is retarded. DPS is a far more worthy meter of damage output, and we're eclipsed in that by everyone but Wartechers, pretty much.



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[SolomonGrundy]

I like how cheaty it is for AF to get cards without any levels of Force.

[realP]

That is another great point. This just goes in with the class being broken. Fighgunner takes 3 ranger levels, but they do not get any S rank guns. Why does Acrofighter, which takes 5 ranger levels, have most of its S rank weapon selection as melee weapons? Acrofighter does not seem to fit the regular formula, and, in my opinion of course, is too good or unbalanced enough.

[Remedy]

On 2007-10-22 14:30, SolomonGrundy wrote:
I like how cheaty it is for AF to get cards without any levels of Force.

It's far more cheaty when a class with 5 levels of Force has just as much Technic power as a class with 10 levels of Force, and MORE technic power where it matters (Support).

[realP]

Oh yeah! Acrotechers get higher support. I would be ok with them getting the level 40 support, but only if fT had level 40 support as well. It makes very simple sense, as they require level 10 force. You are preaching to the choir.

I just find that the new classes were added without as much thought on balance. Do not get me wrong, as I do like many of the new changes that help balance things out. Yet, these new characters are a little too strong. I think we will see a large community of Acrofighters and Acrotechers from now on. All I have to say to that is "BOOOO".

[SolomonGrundy]

On 2007-10-22 14:59, Remedy wrote:

On 2007-10-22 14:30, SolomonGrundy wrote:
I like how cheaty it is for AF to get cards without any levels of Force.

It's far more cheaty when a class with 5 levels of Force has just as much Technic power as a class with 10 levels of Force, and MORE technic power where it matters (Support).



They don't have more tech power than a fortetecher. Many of the fighting class hybrids get a level 40 skills, with fewer than 10 levels of hunter.

and support is not the only thing to matter...

[Schubalts]

On 2007-10-22 14:28, Remedy wrote:

On 2007-10-22 14:24, Schubalts wrote:
You call being able to deal more single-hit damage than pretty much everybody, as FT being hated by Sonic Team?Uh, no?

FFs are able to pull off some stupid attack that does like... 4.5k (see screenshot thread). You show me the Fortecher that can do 4.5k to anything with one hit.

Maybe, MAYBE, a 110/15 Female Newman Fortecher with a 12% Psycho Wand and Diga 40 on a Lightning enemy. MAYBE.

Edit: And single-hit damage is retarded. DPS is a far more worthy meter of damage output, and we're eclipsed in that by everyone but Wartechers, pretty much.



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Protip: I said "pretty much everybody". Not "everybody".

[Mystil]

It should be noted that FFs can only do that kind of damage with 50% weapons. The max I deal without crits on a 28% axe is 1315. FTs do not need high percent weapons to do that.

[SolomonGrundy]

protip: axes draw alot of zeros, as do longswords. 50%/44% are rare. Techers with level 30 techs (and the inherent high elemtal bonus)are not. Diga is 10pp.

[Rashiid]

AF has no spear.

thus it fails. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

[Sexy_Raine]

I sense a lot of the current hardcore fortetechers(pretty much 90% of the current newmans) are going to convert to Ft. AT pretty much makes Ft pointless, better defense stats, more weapons variety, and exclusive S ranks. I may end up converting to it as well.

Way to go Sega for killing my class!

[Jife_Jifremok]

On 2007-10-22 16:59, Sexy_Raine wrote:
I sense a lot of the current hardcore fortetechers(pretty much 90% of the current newmans) are going to convert to Ft. AT pretty much makes Ft pointless, better defense stats, more weapons variety, and exclusive S ranks. I may end up converting to it as well.

Way to go Sega for killing my class!



Can't you just level both classes and switch around as your mood dictates?

[Rashiid]

no way - a true fortetecher cant have high lvl techs that are huge - then go back down to a smaller lower tech.

its either Acrotecher or Fortetecher.

[Sexy_Raine]

We only get lv30 support though. :

[SolomonGrundy]

On 2007-10-22 17:18, Jife_Jifremok wrote:

On 2007-10-22 16:59, Sexy_Raine wrote:
I sense a lot of the current hardcore fortetechers(pretty much 90% of the current newmans) are going to convert to Ft. AT pretty much makes Ft pointless, better defense stats, more weapons variety, and exclusive S ranks. I may end up converting to it as well.

Way to go Sega for killing my class!




Can't you just level both classes and switch around as your mood dictates?



I actually like the fact that most fTs like the one above, actually will NOT switch, because they cannot bear to give up the ubar level 31+ techs, but be really pissed off at the ATs anyway, for having 5% better support. heh.

[Mystil]

On 2007-10-22 17:35, Sexy_Raine wrote:
We only get lv30 support though. :


Is that all FTs were ever really good for..?

Support? O_o No 3k diga, freeze all dambarta, kill all megiverse, and ownage regrants?

Just.. buff buff buff buff reverser heal ? x_x

[Schubalts]

Why are Fortetechers whining about not getting level 40 support anyway? Is that extra 5% from 40 buffs going to magically let level 1 characters kill Dulk Falkis in one hit or something?

[CelestialBlade]

Wow, this topic is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwww to the max.

PSUpedia is back up now last I checked, so you should be able to find all the info you need there.

[Konstanse_Xx]

On 2007-10-23 05:18, Typheros wrote:
Wow, this topic is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwww to the max.

PSUpedia is back up now last I checked, so you should be able to find all the info you need there.


Post that wins the thread in my opinion.

I personally am a WT, and one can look at it two ways in my opinion. When I found out we weren't getting level 30 support techs I said "eh, I'll just go AT if I wanna support"

If they're support, wouldn't it make it make more sense to have better defensive stats so they can go in during the heat of battle? o.o

fTs are fine in my opinion, sure they'll be de-throned as the master of techs, but ffs...no one had level 30 techs, whilst fF's had to share their level 30 PAs, and fG's their level 30 bullets. If Iget an aT in your team during AoI who has level 40 support techs and I was an fT with level 30 support techs I'll just say "Wee, awesome." and pop that buff rod to another spell rod and be done.

My two cents, I just don't see the point of all this complaining for fT...might be because I'm a WT and dealt with meh caps for awhile now, idk. >_>