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Agnostic187
Oct 19, 2007, 02:05 PM
We have a pretty decent group going, 44%+ Ground Trands/Nightwalker/ and a Force with a Psycho Wand with Dambara/Nosdiga, and the most we got was 73 on A rank, and a completetion of B rank, but not able to open all boxes.

Did they make it this way or are we not doing something wrong?

DarkShadowX
Oct 19, 2007, 02:06 PM
It is insanely hard. We managed to complete a EX mission once, but that was one C rank when we were testing out how to get 10 points.

ZeroVer01
Oct 19, 2007, 02:06 PM
I think they made it so that you won't run out of things to kill in 3 minutes.

Agnostic187
Oct 19, 2007, 02:08 PM
I thought so, cause I've asked around to some pretty good people that complete missions in a timely fashion, and it seems nobody has cracked the final spawn box code yet.

Inazuma
Oct 19, 2007, 02:18 PM
megiverse works good for opening boxes

Rashiid
Oct 19, 2007, 02:22 PM
yes it is hard as hell....

do tha units drop on B per say?

Jarek
Oct 19, 2007, 02:27 PM
It's certainly gonna be a challenge..
In my recent parties there were 3 techers and it was mad nosdiga spam, but we still weren't able to finish. Gonna try a 4 fT team sometime and see how it goes down.
Megiverse is an interesting tip for the boxes, one thing that was slowing us down a little was breaking them.

Lyrise
Oct 19, 2007, 02:28 PM
They made it this way. The best rares are in those end boxes, can't make it too easy can we now?

But it also depends on the choice of bonus you take too. For example, on Parum, the Jarba route, is very hunter unfriendly, The Polavara route is not as bad for hunters as the jarbas are, but its still pretty bad.
Due to the field size in the Moatoob bonuses, and the monsters that spawn, its very good for Hunter and Force classes. Just trash everything with renkaibuyouzan and Gizonde spam.

Other than the large baddies, boxes are the prime source of lost time. Bring guns or have a force wipe them all out with Megiverse/gi techs the moment they spawn.

Try not to worry about picking up too many items if you are serious about clearing bonus, you are given 30 seconds at the end IF you complete it. Nothing is more annoying than people wasting time to go pick up an item that's completely out of the way.

Genoa
Oct 19, 2007, 02:35 PM
It makes sense, lvl.100 mobs and you can be 55 and join A rank <___> I'd be very disappointed if there were a million people using the most ubber of rares <___>. The fact I got two 2 headed Ragnus [b]'s is pretty nice :>. I traded one and got a Meteor Cannon in the making.

Kamica
Oct 19, 2007, 02:46 PM
Think of it this way:
The japanese were able to do it. And this was without the level 100 cap and the newer Ult PAs. If you still can't do it with a good party, formulate different strageties. It really isn't too difficult.

Rashiid
Oct 19, 2007, 02:50 PM
what about slowdown?

Agnostic187
Oct 19, 2007, 03:19 PM
I've never actually heard of them actually completing all 80 boxes on a semi-frequent basis.

But it may be possible, but as of right now, I haven't seen it work.

csmicbcklsh
Oct 19, 2007, 03:25 PM
I've done it once. Don't really remember how, it just seemed to work. Try having two or three casts. Suv does wonders on boxes.

Shiryuu
Oct 19, 2007, 03:27 PM
Spam laser cannons in X formation? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Double
Oct 19, 2007, 03:28 PM
The most we got was 67 on the Jarba spawn.
But we're not all 100 with great weapons...
We just spam machineguns

Lyrise
Oct 19, 2007, 03:30 PM
Jarba route, You'd do well with Crossbow spam. You'd be surprised how fast Ice based crossbows can off a Jarba with reduced stats (3 shots, point blank).

XxG1RxX
Oct 19, 2007, 03:31 PM
I was in a party W/4 fortegunners and we finished the entire EX part, and got the S-rank
Everybody was either spamming crossbow or machinegun
(don't forget agtarides, lol)

Edit:This Was on the jarba map


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Cerberus1981
Oct 19, 2007, 04:03 PM
ignore me



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Sulfura
Oct 19, 2007, 07:44 PM
got S rank on bil ex mission not really hard though
all maps is possible but i don't think about moatoob vanda/kogg nadd = really hard


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DreXxiN
Oct 19, 2007, 08:17 PM
78 Monsters so far with my group. Only did 2 runs so far though

ljkkjlcm9
Oct 19, 2007, 08:25 PM
finished the ex mission twice with my group earlier, both times in the last 2 seconds

THE JACKEL

Itsuki
Oct 19, 2007, 11:50 PM
On 2007-10-19 12:50, Rashiid wrote:
what about slowdown?


Well, the jp did this thing called "not playing on 360". So, I assume slowdown wasn't an issue. That could make it a bit harder though. But in a properly built party, I do remember us able to clear many of the ex missions with a decent amount of time remaining. So even with slowdown, it shouldnt' be that bad... unless the slowdown is REALLY REALLY bad.

Elaniel
Oct 20, 2007, 09:54 AM
Silly question. Do getting S ranks on all the Ex Missions give you anything as well?

LP_Phoenix
Oct 20, 2007, 11:40 AM
so u need 80 montsers not 100? good to know... we had 75...and were picking up at ex... so maybe we can get it with not picking up the stuff...

Itsuki
Oct 20, 2007, 11:55 AM
You have to pick up a little bit, or the newer items will start overwriting the older items. Theres a limit on the number of items that can be on the floor at once (I believe its 50).

Rashiid
Oct 20, 2007, 12:04 PM
question - when you gotta kill 80.

does it say 'mission complete' AT 80?

or does it still go on, then when the timer goes off it will say 'mission complete' or w/e the rejoicing thing is.

Ryuk_0
Oct 20, 2007, 12:22 PM
it gives u 30 seconds to pick up items

Ryuk_0
Oct 20, 2007, 12:23 PM
it tells u u completed the ex missions then gives u 30 seconds to pick up shyt

Rashiid
Oct 20, 2007, 12:32 PM
k

Arika
Oct 20, 2007, 01:12 PM
On 2007-10-19 12:46, Kamica wrote:
Think of it this way:
The japanese were able to do it. And this was without the level 100 cap and the newer Ult PAs. If you still can't do it with a good party, formulate different strageties. It really isn't too difficult.



that is correct http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

the end box alway drop rare, either 9*weapon 10*[b], 11*[b] or unit
but well, I made it like soooo many runs,althoguh my team got 2 dedda , we still not find a B rank unit tero/rainbow yet.... guess my luck is not that good


however, got a solid/hit, any1 interst = trade forum http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

it is from end box of parum

Kishin
Oct 20, 2007, 03:46 PM
EDIT: Ops sorry had read you was talking about EX mission... mmm anyway dont know, but with more teacher could be for me, spamming techs...

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McLaughlin
Oct 20, 2007, 06:16 PM
On 2007-10-20 11:12, Arika wrote:

On 2007-10-19 12:46, Kamica wrote:
Think of it this way:
The japanese were able to do it. And this was without the level 100 cap and the newer Ult PAs. If you still can't do it with a good party, formulate different strageties. It really isn't too difficult.



that is correct http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

the end box alway drop rare, either 9*weapon 10*[b], 11*[b] or unit
but well, I made it like soooo many runs,althoguh my team got 2 dedda , we still not find a B rank unit tero/rainbow yet.... guess my luck is not that good


however, got a solid/hit, any1 interst = trade forum http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

it is from end box of parum



How was your party set up Arika?

Acceleration
Oct 21, 2007, 10:45 AM
What seems impossible is clearing the Kog Nadd/Vanda EX mission on A. A party I joined got close, but no dice. We got the last set of boxes to pop a second or two after the trial ended, so we had no time to open them all and get the drops. It's insane - how did the Japanese do it?

gryphonvii
Oct 21, 2007, 12:10 PM
almost had it complete on the jarba variation on parum, one fighgunner, and a fortegunner using machine guns, a techer using megiverse, and a fortefighter running around. I think we could've done it with another gunner instead of the ff. Can anybody uggest party setups for the second variation?

AishaClanclan
Oct 21, 2007, 09:09 PM
On 2007-10-21 10:10, gryphonvii wrote:
almost had it complete on the jarba variation on parum, one fighgunner, and a fortegunner using machine guns, a techer using megiverse, and a fortefighter running around. I think we could've done it with another gunner instead of the ff. Can anybody uggest party setups for the second variation?


How many mosters did you get and what level were you i got the same party.

Tulio07
Oct 21, 2007, 09:25 PM
made it with 1 fortefighter and 3 fortegunners 4 out of 5 times earlier. Parum Jarba one that is

norrisj15
Oct 21, 2007, 09:36 PM
the moatoob bil de one is super easy i can get that everytime.
the parum ones and teh kog are a little harder.
we keep getting within 3 or so on teh vahra map.
havent tried the jarba map all that much but we got withing 5 or so

we were all fF using the ult spear. wouldve helped if we had more casts. i was the only one. and the rest were all human so yea.....

Chaobo99
Oct 22, 2007, 03:16 AM
Did they fix megiverse stacking yet xD?

Turbobrain
Oct 22, 2007, 07:12 AM
I know how to do it.... but it's not exactly ethical. Lets just say 4 FT'S+megiverse+lag....

I really want to get to the end on S and I've got so near it on my 85 FF'r with a good team.

I am really interested in being part of the team that does it on both A and B so PM me if anyones interested.... my FF is prob lacking in terms of lvl's but my FT'r is 95.

Arika
Oct 22, 2007, 07:15 AM
On 2007-10-20 16:16, Obsidian_Knight wrote:

On 2007-10-20 11:12, Arika wrote:

On 2007-10-19 12:46, Kamica wrote:
Think of it this way:
The japanese were able to do it. And this was without the level 100 cap and the newer Ult PAs. If you still can't do it with a good party, formulate different strageties. It really isn't too difficult.



that is correct http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

the end box alway drop rare, either 9*weapon 10*[b], 11*[b] or unit
but well, I made it like soooo many runs,althoguh my team got 2 dedda , we still not find a B rank unit tero/rainbow yet.... guess my luck is not that good


however, got a solid/hit, any1 interst = trade forum http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

it is from end box of parum



How was your party set up Arika?



fixed that, because I got tero/rainbow already http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

my party is 1 fT (of course,because that is me, and get as many fF as you can )




Kodd nagg map is not impossible
However, it is hard to find party.
You need full party with more than 3 top-class fF (all with 50% dark spear and 50% ice speaar or 50% ice twin saber)

Eleina
Oct 22, 2007, 07:23 AM
On 2007-10-22 05:15, Arika wrote:
Kodd nagg map is not impossible
However, it is hard to find party.
You need full party with more than 3 top-class fF (all with 50% dark spear and 50% ice speaar or 50% ice twin saber)


Wrong wrong wrong
fF sucks vs vandas
fG is much better for it
(3fG +1fF can clear it)

Arika
Oct 22, 2007, 07:35 AM
On 2007-10-22 05:23, Eleina wrote:

On 2007-10-22 05:15, Arika wrote:
Kodd nagg map is not impossible
However, it is hard to find party.
You need full party with more than 3 top-class fF (all with 50% dark spear and 50% ice speaar or 50% ice twin saber)


Wrong wrong wrong
fF sucks vs vandas
fG is much better for it
(3fG +1fF can clear it)



Wrong(x3) http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
fG suck at kodd nagg
fF is much better for it
(3fF + 1 ft or fG can clear it)

EDIT:
actually I think both 3fF+1fG or 1fF+3fG is fine, just need a good player.




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Gen2000
Oct 22, 2007, 10:01 AM
I only cleared Parum EX1 and Moatoob EX1 on Aranks so far, from what I what I seen to be effective and just guesses on others based off that:

Parum
- EX1: All fGs, even better if they are all Cast for mass Sturm Attacker spam towards end, and high level Ice (or Zagenga) Xbow, Twins, or Mechgun. It's the easiest EX mission with all fGs, they just wreck it.
- EX2: Seems all fT team with Gidiga/Nosdiga spam would be best. I dunno. My least played EX mission.

Moatoob
- EX1: Seems like as long as you have one fT spamming Gizonde or fF spamming Majarra, you can use almost any combo. I completed it with fT+3 melees and 2 fTs +1 fG + 1 FiG.
- EX2: This seems to be the hardest one by far. Any combo we tried to set up with to kill Vandas is countered by the Kog Nadds or vice versa. I will need to try out the 3fF+1fG or 1fF+3fG combo suggestions from above (they seem really good, leaning more towads the latter combo myself).



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Vickie
Oct 23, 2007, 05:46 AM
suv suv suv take a beating , use that shotgun!, take a beating suv suv suv

Syl
Oct 23, 2007, 05:51 AM
The Jarba map is EXTREMELY doable with 3 fortegunners using ice xbows and Sturm Attacker SUVs. 4th slot can be filled by any class and still be able to reach the end. Our team made was able to make it to the last boxes each and everytime today cept for once or twice.

Yeah, kog nadd EX mission sucks, pretty damn hard to clear =/

Theoderic
Oct 23, 2007, 08:15 AM
I need to see the end of these EX Missions.

94 Cast, FG 10, Ice X-Bow 28.5, Sturm Attacker.

I really want to be clearing the Jarba EX Mission on A, and any Moatoob one (I really want Tero/Rainbow).

Sylpheed
Oct 23, 2007, 08:26 AM
The group i run with can do both the Parum and Moatoob missions on A in really good time and get 10 points but can never get to the third set of boxes, we tried it with four techers on Parum but the lag was too bad with four people spamming Nosdiga.

Made it to the third set of boxes on B on moatoob with no trouble and got us a Tero / Wall Booyah!



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Soulvayne
Oct 23, 2007, 09:51 AM
Managed to clear the jarba map on B with just 2 fortegunners last night. Had some issues trying to clear A with 3 Fortegunners and a Fortetecher got 76 mobs several times and one 3rd set of box spawns just as time ran out so we couldn't pick everything up in time.

shotsfired
Oct 23, 2007, 11:55 AM
soulvayne, our time is tonight!!!

RadiantLegend
Oct 23, 2007, 12:19 PM
On 2007-10-22 05:35, Arika wrote:

On 2007-10-22 05:23, Eleina wrote:

On 2007-10-22 05:15, Arika wrote:
Kodd nagg map is not impossible
However, it is hard to find party.
You need full party with more than 3 top-class fF (all with 50% dark spear and 50% ice speaar or 50% ice twin saber)


Wrong wrong wrong
fF sucks vs vandas
fG is much better for it
(3fG +1fF can clear it)



Wrong(x3) http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
fG suck at kodd nagg
fF is much better for it
(3fF + 1 ft or fG can clear it)

EDIT:
actually I think both 3fF+1fG or 1fF+3fG is fine, just need a good player.




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fG is useless in Moatoob EX2. There i SAID it.
For this 2 reasons "Buff Vandas & Kog nadds"

50% weapons won't help against stun from kog nadds especially facing the last set of 10.

Now if you somehow have 3 attack badge fF beast and maybe a Fo to prevent their death. I Could see the possibility....

(might as well do EX1 for boxes anyways)

pikachief
Oct 23, 2007, 12:21 PM
i've gotten over 50 kills with just me and one other guy 4 times now, im sure u can easily do it with a full party http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Starlet
Oct 23, 2007, 12:43 PM
You can get 80 if you have a good party (as in teamwork, not so as in uber equips, though it definitely helps) http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif It's not that hard. We had 2 FT (incl me), but we didn't cast any restas. We just used mates, & picked selectbliy Our party was like 92, 85, 80, & 75. This was done on Parum EX2

gryphonvii
Oct 23, 2007, 10:07 PM
the jarba map variation is by far the easiest, the polavahras are pretty easy too, but the vahras can be annoying, majarra with good ground muktrands can clear the though, I agree that ff are best when going against kognadds, I switch from fighhgunner to fortefighter whenever I run moatoob.

Remedy
Oct 23, 2007, 10:41 PM
Moatoob EX1 A can be cleared by four Fortechers with good Gizonde. I tried recording a run of Oniko, Sakura, Trinitaria, and myself doing it, and even with me lagging due to FRAPS, we managed to bag 78 kills, and saw the boxes just as we disappeared.

If I wasn't lagging, it would've been a full 80. Just bring Sols and Stars and Retirades. :3

beatrixkiddo
Oct 23, 2007, 10:46 PM
EX missions were a pain until I switched back to FF. Now, I can 3-man the Vear EX, with like 30 seconds to spare, it's funny. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Remedy
Oct 23, 2007, 10:58 PM
On 2007-10-23 20:46, beatrixkiddo wrote:
EX missions were a pain until I switched back to FF. Now, I can 3-man the Vear EX, with like 30 seconds to spare, it's funny. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gifMajarra... *sigh*

I think once I hit 80-ish and our Fortecher in our squad who didn't have 21+ Gizonde gets her Gizonde up, we'll have the BDV EX mission in the bag. Just carry the proper consumables, like I said. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

Tellemyall
Oct 24, 2007, 12:41 AM
bear map is easy, on A rank, all 80 kills is do-able with only a 2 person party spamming majarra

FOnewearl-Lina
Oct 24, 2007, 06:17 PM
On 2007-10-19 12:46, Kamica wrote:
Think of it this way:
The japanese were able to do it. And this was without the level 100 cap and the newer Ult PAs. If you still can't do it with a good party, formulate different strageties. It really isn't too difficult.

^US cup is already on easy mode since you can just pwn everything with majurra/doranga AND have a higher level cap, you're complaining now just wait till EX3...
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y274/FoLina/PSU/psu20070704_000126_001.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y274/FoLina/PSU/psu20070704_000130_002.jpg

Agnostic187
Oct 24, 2007, 06:18 PM
Well, Moatoob Bil De mission is pretty much mastered :/

Coming close on Parum.

Mystil
Oct 24, 2007, 06:33 PM
Eh.

Cant never get to the end boxes. This is discouraging.

Would NOT using the last combo of majarra help?


Now if you somehow have 3 attack badge fF beast and maybe a Fo to prevent their death. I Could see the possibility....
Ah hell no. *keeps invincible*


FF does not suck against vandas. All you need is giga/hardline or something better and just tank the fire damage and use a trimate. You wont flinch and you'll be dealing a shitload of damage.

FF sucks against flying mobs and anything melee resistant.

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Agnostic187
Oct 24, 2007, 06:35 PM
For me it always kills the mob, regardless if I had it once already or not. So I use it.

Mystil
Oct 24, 2007, 06:46 PM
Well mine doesnt one shot. Its topped at 1513. Figures that its the hit that sends monsters all the way to freaking pluto. I can't stand PAs that do that -.-.