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Nyreal
Oct 30, 2007, 04:49 AM
I've been playing PSU for nearly a month now. You know what I've noticed?

Human males haven't had it once. Not at all. I call shenanigans.

ZEO_X
Oct 30, 2007, 05:04 AM
i thought this was going to be about the Fake 3* luck week were getting again after the event.

JFKdj
Oct 30, 2007, 05:10 AM
A declaration of shenanigans! Everyone grab your brooms.

milka
Oct 30, 2007, 05:10 AM
Luck3.... pffftttt

New_One
Oct 30, 2007, 05:15 AM
The super holy luck week is fake?

Syl
Oct 30, 2007, 05:17 AM
lol...

You haven't been around long have you? <_<

CelestialBlade
Oct 30, 2007, 05:59 AM
Less time complaining about luck = more time to hunt rarz.

It's a random distribution, go yell at the math gods or something.

Sami
Oct 30, 2007, 06:41 AM
I remember having weeks with luck 1 or below as a caseal. Meh, it's random. You shouln'd care.

Dre_o
Oct 30, 2007, 06:51 AM
Uhh...get used to it...Sonic Team is a bunch of sexist and racist bastards. All males will have less luck than females and Newmans and Casts will have 3 Star FAR more frequently than anyone else.

Ogni-XR21
Oct 30, 2007, 08:14 AM
Actually the luck is made the way that everyone gets it equally often over the course of the year.

On the other hand I often find 3 Luck not much better or even worse than 2 or 1 luck...

EvilSlacker
Oct 30, 2007, 08:31 AM
I have found more rappys and items with no luck than I did with 3 for Newman on Saturday or 3 for Cast on Sunday. I have begun to discount this whole luck thing as totally insignifigant. Also a side note, in my personal experience beast luck is totally worthless and level 2 luck is actually negative 2, just a translation error on Sega's part

Broodstar1337
Oct 30, 2007, 10:05 AM
On 2007-10-30 06:14, Ogni-XR21 wrote:
Actually the luck is made the way that everyone gets it equally often over the course of the year.

On the other hand I often find 3 Luck not much better or even worse than 2 or 1 luck...



Equal opportunity. Not equal distribution.

Mystil
Oct 30, 2007, 10:10 AM
LUCK, ATA, DFP DOESN'T DO ANYTHING IN THE GAME.

Remedy
Oct 30, 2007, 10:14 AM
Luck effects two things and two things only: Grind rates and Drop-Anything rates.

Jesus christ.

Mystil
Oct 30, 2007, 10:17 AM
On 2007-10-30 08:14, Remedy wrote:
Jesus christ.

I bet he says that whenever a luck topic is brought up too.


=P

stukasa
Oct 30, 2007, 10:17 AM
Fact #1: Photon fortune does not affect the quality of drops, only the quantity.

Fact #2: The only thing photon fortune is useful for is grinding. If you absolutely need to grind right away, keep one character slot open and make that character whatever race/gender combo has 3* luck today. Remake as needed.

Fact #3: Most people have found plenty of good stuff on non 3* days. In fact, many people swear that they find better stuff on NON-3* days. Don't worry about it so much. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Remedy
Oct 30, 2007, 10:23 AM
On 2007-10-30 08:17, Mystil wrote:

On 2007-10-30 08:14, Remedy wrote:
Jesus christ.

I bet he says that whenever a luck topic is brought up too.


=PI wouldn't effing doubt it, as often as it comes up. XD

Authenticate
Oct 30, 2007, 10:30 AM
You dirty hoo-mons don't deserve luck. You are nothing but servants to your cast overlords. OBEY OR THE NINJA RAPPIES WILL EAT ALL YOUR CEREAL WHILE YOU SLEEP!

Breadmaker
Oct 30, 2007, 10:33 AM
shenanigans.

HiroSan
Oct 30, 2007, 11:10 AM
lol ppl complaining about luck...most of the time u dont have to worry about how much luck YOU have when you can bum off other ppls luck >.>b

CelestialBlade
Oct 30, 2007, 11:16 AM
On 2007-10-30 08:30, Authenticate wrote:
You dirty hoo-mons don't deserve luck. You are nothing but servants to your cast overlords. OBEY OR THE NINJA RAPPIES WILL EAT ALL YOUR CEREAL WHILE YOU SLEEP!

Gon' sic my Ninja Beast on some AMF suckas. Hail to the queen.

I've found all my best drops on 0-1* luck days. When will people learn that increasing quantity of drops doesn't really change much at all?

tailz
Oct 30, 2007, 11:18 AM
On 2007-10-30 03:04, ZEO_X wrote:
i thought this was going to be about the Fake 3* luck week were getting again after the event.



what are you talking about "fake"?
1) it's not fake
2) it's 2 weeks
3) it's on the official website (http://phantasystaruniverse.jp/event/1upcup2007_en/)

UltimateAura
Oct 30, 2007, 11:41 AM
On 2007-10-30 06:31, EvilSlacker wrote:
I have found more rappys and items with no luck than I did with 3 for Newman on Saturday or 3 for Cast on Sunday. I have begun to discount this whole luck thing as totally insignifigant. Also a side note, in my personal experience beast luck is totally worthless and level 2 luck is actually negative 2, just a translation error on Sega's part



Rappies are found with luck or without luck. Its nothing to do with rare monsters

Sychosis
Oct 30, 2007, 11:44 AM
On 2007-10-30 08:05, Broodstar1337 wrote:

On 2007-10-30 06:14, Ogni-XR21 wrote:
Actually the luck is made the way that everyone gets it equally often over the course of the year.

On the other hand I often find 3 Luck not much better or even worse than 2 or 1 luck...



Equal opportunity. Not equal distribution.



Did you know that every race/sex combination had a total 245 "points" of luck during the first year of PSU with only 1 exception? Male Newmans had only 244 points.

Seems like an equal distribution to me.



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Sychosis on 2007-10-30 13:36 ]</font>

amtalx
Oct 30, 2007, 12:02 PM
I did the math in a post way back but 3* luck isn't useless. It just doesn't make up for the time spent under 0-2* luck. Do you really expect to find more rares on the handful of days a month with 3* than all the other days combined?

Remedy
Oct 30, 2007, 12:13 PM
On 2007-10-30 08:14, Remedy wrote:
Luck effects two things and two things only: Grind rates and Drop-Anything rates.

Jesus christ.

-Xios-
Oct 30, 2007, 12:20 PM
Lvl 82 humen here, From lvl 1-82 I have almost never seen us have 3* luck. I am not much worried about it since I don't believe that luck helps you in missions, only helps success in Synthing and Grinding, But it does seem odd that male humens rarely get 3* days.

Sychosis
Oct 30, 2007, 12:21 PM
On 2007-10-30 10:02, amtalx wrote:
I did the math in a post way back but 3* luck isn't useless. It just doesn't make up for the time spent under 0-2* luck. Do you really expect to find more rares on the handful of days a month with 3* than all the other days combined?



Exactly. It's lunacy to think that you're going to find far more on the 20 days of the year you have 3* luck than the remaining 345 days.

omegapirate2k
Oct 30, 2007, 12:45 PM
On 2007-10-30 10:21, Sychosis wrote:

On 2007-10-30 10:02, amtalx wrote:
I did the math in a post way back but 3* luck isn't useless. It just doesn't make up for the time spent under 0-2* luck. Do you really expect to find more rares on the handful of days a month with 3* than all the other days combined?



Exactly. It's lunacy to think that you're going to find far more on the 20 days of the year you have 3* luck than the remaining 345 days.



Why, many of our most important finds have been during 1 star luck days!

Sychosis
Oct 30, 2007, 01:03 PM
Going by the numbers then, I say we forbid Aurelianis from joining us anymore http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Race Human Newman CAST Beast
Gender Male Female Male Female Male Female Male Female
TOTALS 245 245 244 245 245 245 245 245

3 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20
2 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40
1 105 105 104 105 105 105 105 105
0 200 200 201 200 200 200 200 200


Those are total days of X* luck. I've triple checked against the JP logs so I believe it is all correct. The TOTAL row is the total "pointage" of luck over the year.

There is no racism, no sexism, none of that BS. So all the whiners can be quiet.




<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Sychosis on 2007-10-30 15:33 ]</font>

stukasa
Oct 30, 2007, 01:14 PM
On 2007-10-30 10:20, -Xios- wrote:
Lvl 82 humen here, From lvl 1-82 I have almost never seen us have 3* luck. I am not much worried about it since I don't believe that luck helps you in missions, only helps success in Synthing and Grinding, But it does seem odd that male humens rarely get 3* days.


AFAIK photon fortune has no effect on synthing, only grinding, unless someone has proof otherwise.

Gunslinger-08
Oct 30, 2007, 01:25 PM
I totally agree. Who cares about all those other times? We've got the 1Up Cup going, and this it when having 3 star luck is the most beneficial, whether the effects are psychological or real.

omegapirate2k
Oct 30, 2007, 01:27 PM
On 2007-10-30 11:03, Sychosis wrote:
There is no racism, no sexism, none of that BS. So all the whiners can be quiet.



It's always worth pointing out I suppose.

-Aurora-
Oct 30, 2007, 01:35 PM
Super Holy luck is worthless to me...I never get anything ><!! tho it does benefit everyone i party with...

Lyric
Oct 30, 2007, 02:57 PM
I really don't understand what there is to complain about. Even if it was uneven, which it isn't, you can make new characters based on that day's luck like someone suggested earlier. :/

Kylie
Oct 30, 2007, 03:21 PM
Gotten more stuff on no luck than on 3* luck.

Remedy
Oct 30, 2007, 03:26 PM
On 2007-10-30 13:21, Kylie wrote:
Gotten more stuff on no luck than on 3* luck.More "good" stuff, or more stuff overall? The answer is the former.

Kylie
Oct 30, 2007, 03:39 PM
On 2007-10-30 13:26, Remedy wrote:

On 2007-10-30 13:21, Kylie wrote:
Gotten more stuff on no luck than on 3* luck.More "good" stuff, or more stuff overall? The answer is the former.


Yeah, basically. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Synthed all of my 44-50% weapons, gotten my Sori / TECH and TE / TECH Save, etc. all on no luck or "insignificant" luck. I mean, I've noticed that more stuff falls when I do have luck or the party's leader has luck, but that basically just means more kerseline. At any rate, PSU items really hardly have value to me, so I don't mind if my race/gender gets jipped.

Remedy
Oct 30, 2007, 03:40 PM
Precisely my point. Luck, again, say it with me class:

"Does nothing but increases drop anything rates and grind rates, Miss Remedy."

Very good, class.

-Xios-
Oct 30, 2007, 04:28 PM
How do people know that luck increases grinding succuss?

Kylie
Oct 30, 2007, 04:34 PM
On 2007-10-30 14:28, -Xios- wrote:
How do people know that luck increases grinding succuss?


Personal experience, I suppose.



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Remedy
Oct 30, 2007, 04:36 PM
On 2007-10-30 14:28, -Xios- wrote:
How do people know that luck increases grinding succuss?...the information given by the NPCs?

...the information compiled in various player wikis?

...the information posted on various forums?

And you did not raise your hand before asking your question, either.

Mystil
Oct 30, 2007, 05:05 PM
I remember when I was a newman and everyday was luck 3 XD.

ThEoRy
Oct 30, 2007, 07:15 PM
On 2007-10-30 11:03, Sychosis wrote:
Going by the numbers then, I say we forbid Aurelianis from joining us anymore http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Race Human Newman CAST Beast
Gender Male Female Male Female Male Female Male Female
TOTALS 245 245 244 245 245 245 245 245

3 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20
2 40 40 40 40 40 40 40 40
1 105 105 104 105 105 105 105 105
0 200 200 201 200 200 200 200 200


Those are total days of X* luck. I've triple checked against the JP logs so I believe it is all correct. The TOTAL row is the total "pointage" of luck over the year.

There is no racism, no sexism, none of that BS. So all the whiners can be quiet.




<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Sychosis on 2007-10-30 15:33 ]</font>

But Do0d I only got a lousy 244 last year!! 244!! I'm pullin out the race card man, this is some real racist bullshit!



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: ThEoRy on 2007-10-30 17:16 ]</font>

Sychosis
Oct 30, 2007, 08:20 PM
BUT EVERYONE KNOWS THE LOWER YOUR LUCK, THE BETTER YOUR DROPS ARE!!! D:

I say we form a STRYKE FORCE and take down SEGA HQ. Recon reports that SEGA HQ (pictured below) is heavily guarded:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/90/227601296_19dada884f.jpg

For racial equality!

Honestly though I am puzzled as to why Male Newmans missed a day of 1* luck. Here's hoping for an extra day of 1* luck this year!

Orin654
Oct 30, 2007, 08:41 PM
during firebreak with 3 luck, Ive always gotten batter mat drops, but it didnt do anything for boards

Dragwind
Oct 30, 2007, 08:45 PM
Only a month? Yeah, probably why you haven't seen it yet...

Noblewine
Oct 30, 2007, 09:24 PM
I don't really believe in luck, it's all skill. However I just started to use the chart and I doubt it's actually accurate. XD

MelanyKoura
Oct 30, 2007, 09:38 PM
I think the last Super Holy Luck week proved that 3 luck is no help at all unless you're massing high rank materials. Just use it for grinding weapons and that's it.

Remedy
Oct 30, 2007, 09:41 PM
[quote]On 2007-10-30 18:20, Sychosis wrote:
I say we form a STRYKE FORCE and take down SEGA HQ. Recon reports that SEGA HQ (pictured below) is heavily guarded:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/90/227601296_19dada884f.jpg</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE>Oh you're just BAD.

Sychosis
Oct 30, 2007, 09:49 PM
WAT?

I don't get it...picture messed up or something? If so, look here (http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s302/Sychosis777/lulz/227601296_19dada884f.jpg).

Sekani
Oct 31, 2007, 12:01 AM
On 2007-10-30 14:36, Remedy wrote:

On 2007-10-30 14:28, -Xios- wrote:
How do people know that luck increases grinding succuss?...the information given by the NPCs?

...the information compiled in various player wikis?

...the information posted on various forums?


Actually it's because Sonic Team said so.