Shadoogs, the point?

[Nano-bot]

I was thinking about Shadoogs today, and more importantly how they are useful. From what I think I know, they equip in the left hand slot, and shoot on there own. Is that right? I am just wondering how they are useful.

[pikachief]

its like having a PM that shoots the right things with u!

Its like shooting while attacking!

lets say you have a dagger and a shadoog out. You can be attacking away with that dagger and while your smaking things around the shadoog will ALSO shoot the enemies.

it also casues Se's pretty nicely, its nice to have if your only gonna sue a right handed weapon http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Jao]

i think its like a mech gun shootinh while you are attacking with a saber?

[mizukage]

Usefulness? When the PP runs out, it serves as a cute mag decoration:

http://pwv.sakura.ne.jp/image/shadook/glaldeek.jpg

[pikachief]

On 2007-11-13 19:49, mizukage wrote:
Usefulness? When the PP runs out, it serves as a cute mag decoration:

http://pwv.sakura.ne.jp/image/shadook/glaldeek.jpg



the PP doesnt run out though

[Lyrise]

Or rather, it uses no PP at all. That's why they always have 0/0PP.

[Gryffin]

They keep shooting, no PP required. They do status, they hit pretty decently, and they can shoot different.

There are lasers, and twin handgun ones, and single handgun ones, I'm still holding out for Grenades. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

[pikachief]

On 2007-11-13 19:57, Gryffin wrote:
They keep shooting, no PP required. They do status, they hit pretty decently, and they can shoot different.

There are lasers, and twin handgun ones, and single handgun ones, I'm still holding out for Grenades. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif




i want shotgun and mechgun ones XD

[mizukage]

In that case, I will be looking forward not just to the slicers, but the shadoogs too. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Jife_Jifremok]

I just hope they won't be as useful as having a manually-aimed gun in your left hand.

[omegapirate2k]

Yep, shadoogs are pretty useful.

[Carlo210]

But guns are funner.

[Soukosa]

Shadoogs deal extra damage and apply SEs while you're attacking with other means. S grade ones will fire like a laser cannon in terms of having a pentrating beam and the rate at which they fire at. They're quite useful on AF with their arsenal of single handed melee weapons (and their 2nd highest TP in the game) and on GT when using techs against bullet resistant enemies for an extra SE (like this (http://soukosa.amesani.org/psu/images/newman/psu20071112_210919_007.jpg)).

[pikachief]

omg u hit a critical for 131 on a lvl 25 monster!? u had to be using diga nothing else in this game could've done that much damage! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif


http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Carlo210]

LOL
Yes, shadoogs are pure pwnage... >.<

By the way, was it your shadoog that stunned it? If so, I thought shadoogs don't stun anymore. Instead, htey just do the normal status effects (earth would be silence).
Or is that just an old pic?



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[mizukage]

On 2007-11-13 20:55, pikachief wrote:
omg u hit a critical for 131 on a lvl 25 monster!? u had to be using diga nothing else in this game could've done that much damage! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif


http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif



Soukosa-san, what rod were you using?

That is surely a powerful one, considering the huge gap between your level and the level of the monster.

[pikachief]

On 2007-11-13 21:07, mizukage wrote:

On 2007-11-13 20:55, pikachief wrote:
omg u hit a critical for 131 on a lvl 25 monster!? u had to be using diga nothing else in this game could've done that much damage! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif


http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif



Soukosa-san, what rod were you using?

That is surely a powerful one, considering the huge gap between your level and the level of the monster.




it was most likely a lidra!!!

(nah most likey a cometerac but must be grinded 10 times for that damage! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif)

[mizukage]

On 2007-11-13 21:10, pikachief wrote:

On 2007-11-13 21:07, mizukage wrote:

On 2007-11-13 20:55, pikachief wrote:
omg u hit a critical for 131 on a lvl 25 monster!? u had to be using diga nothing else in this game could've done that much damage! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif


http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif



Soukosa-san, what rod were you using?

That is surely a powerful one, considering the huge gap between your level and the level of the monster.




it was most likely a lidra!!!

(nah most likey a cometerac but must be grinded 10 times for that damage! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif)



Gomen.

Nah... I take back what I said. This is getting a little mean. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_innocent.gif

That's probably just a glitch. It should be 4-digits, 1310 damage! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif



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[pikachief]

On 2007-11-13 21:18, mizukage wrote:

On 2007-11-13 21:10, pikachief wrote:

On 2007-11-13 21:07, mizukage wrote:

On 2007-11-13 20:55, pikachief wrote:
omg u hit a critical for 131 on a lvl 25 monster!? u had to be using diga nothing else in this game could've done that much damage! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif


http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif



Soukosa-san, what rod were you using?

That is surely a powerful one, considering the huge gap between your level and the level of the monster.




it was most likely a lidra!!!

(nah most likey a cometerac but must be grinded 10 times for that damage! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif)



Nah... I take back what I said. This is getting a little mean. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_innocent.gif

That's probably just a glitch. It should be 4-digits, 1310 damage! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif



thats still kinda weak XD

im pretty sure it was his shadoog http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif (cuz big thick numbers usually mean critical, that would be a sad diga! A rank rod on a lvl 103 against a lvl 25 criticalling for only 131 XD)

[mizukage]

On 2007-11-13 21:21, pikachief wrote:

On 2007-11-13 21:18, mizukage wrote:

On 2007-11-13 21:10, pikachief wrote:

On 2007-11-13 21:07, mizukage wrote:

On 2007-11-13 20:55, pikachief wrote:
omg u hit a critical for 131 on a lvl 25 monster!? u had to be using diga nothing else in this game could've done that much damage! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif


http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif



Soukosa-san, what rod were you using?

That is surely a powerful one, considering the huge gap between your level and the level of the monster.




it was most likely a lidra!!!

(nah most likey a cometerac but must be grinded 10 times for that damage! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif)



Gomen! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Nah... I take back what I said. This is getting a little mean. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_innocent.gif

That's probably just a glitch. It should be 4-digits, 1310 damage! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif



thats still kinda weak XD

im pretty sure it was his shadoog http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif (cuz big thick numbers usually mean critical, that would be a sad diga! A rank rod on a lvl 103 against a lvl 25 criticalling for only 131 XD)



There is nothing funny about that. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_innocent.gif

I am Lvl 100 and my Railgun does 0 damage to the De Ragan and the Dulk Falkis. My critical attack does 20 damage. The highest was 35 damage. To hear a Lvl 103 to do 131 critical damage, that is awesome!! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif



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[pikachief]

On 2007-11-13 21:26, mizukage wrote:

On 2007-11-13 21:21, pikachief wrote:

On 2007-11-13 21:18, mizukage wrote:

On 2007-11-13 21:10, pikachief wrote:

On 2007-11-13 21:07, mizukage wrote:

On 2007-11-13 20:55, pikachief wrote:
omg u hit a critical for 131 on a lvl 25 monster!? u had to be using diga nothing else in this game could've done that much damage! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif


http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif



Soukosa-san, what rod were you using?

That is surely a powerful one, considering the huge gap between your level and the level of the monster.




it was most likely a lidra!!!

(nah most likey a cometerac but must be grinded 10 times for that damage! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif)



Nah... I take back what I said. This is getting a little mean. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_innocent.gif

That's probably just a glitch. It should be 4-digits, 1310 damage! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif



thats still kinda weak XD

im pretty sure it was his shadoog http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif (cuz big thick numbers usually mean critical, that would be a sad diga! A rank rod on a lvl 103 against a lvl 25 criticalling for only 131 XD)



There is nothing funny about that. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_innocent.gif

I am Lvl 100 and my Railgun does 0 damage to the De Ragan and the Dulk Falkis. My critical attack does 20 damage. The highest was 35 damage. To hear a Lvl 103 to do 131 critical damage, that is awesome!! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif



i hit dulk fakis for 1300+ once http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif and the PA was only lvl 15 http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Umberger]

First off, stop with the quote chain and off topic discussion.

Second, it's a Wand, more specifically a Lidra +3.

I'm 99% sure that was the Shadoog's shot, I can't say whether that is high or low damage, but the point is...Sou's character is apparently a Newman (as the URL would lead me to believe), and for all we know, it may be a level 1 Acrotecher.

EDIT: Also, I'm not sure, but isn't the Kagajibari bullet resistant?

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[pikachief]

well i hope its bullet resistant! shadoogs run off TP, so for a newman tahts still poor damage XD

[Carlo210]

Cards > shadoogles

[pikachief]

On 2007-11-13 21:59, Carlo210 wrote:
Cards > shadoogles



but can u shoot cards while flying around with a dagger? NOOO!!! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Carlo210]

Shadoogs aren't rapid fire or anything. They shoot around 2-3 bullets every 3 seconds.

There are many times when you'll be getting into position, backing off, etc when you can spam some card bullets.

[Hank]

I wonder what the max status level for Shadoogs are going to be? 2? 3? Well, doesn't matter much anyways, not in the expansion.

[Shiryuu]

On 2007-11-13 20:58, Carlo210 wrote:
If so, I thought shadoogs don't stun anymore. Instead, htey just do the normal status effects (earth would be silence).

If it was a S-rank earth shadoog, it would stun.

[Schubalts]

On 2007-11-13 22:07, Carlo210 wrote:
Shadoogs aren't rapid fire or anything. They shoot around 2-3 bullets every 3 seconds.

There are many times when you'll be getting into position, backing off, etc when you can spam some card bullets.



Fire rate depends on the Shadoog, yo.

[Rizen]

On 2007-11-13 22:07, Carlo210 wrote:
Shadoogs aren't rapid fire or anything. They shoot around 2-3 bullets every 3 seconds.

There are many times when you'll be getting into position, backing off, etc when you can spam some card bullets.


True, but can you attack while using card at the same time? Not talking about the delay when the card bullets in the air.

Also, Shadoogs have better ability of helping you out with different SE or abilities that cards don't have.

IIRC (its been a while) Soniti is a laser that can knock over enemeies. Someone please correct me here if I am wrong.

[Deissa]

Soniti has HP drain and a launch effect, which is more annoying than it should be.