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Ghaleon
01-04-2003, 08:25 PM
what do you like (or dislike) most about FOmars
G-Assassin
01-04-2003, 08:27 PM
Read the first line in the description of a FOmar. I can't play a good game with them.
Elixer
01-04-2003, 08:32 PM
personally i dont really care for FOmars but that doesnt make them bad. FOmars can do good damage with attack weps for a fo. his magic is not as good as some of the other fo's but he makes up for that with his attack ability. there are ups and down for all characters in pso.
Sedyne
01-04-2003, 09:14 PM
The challange. They are definitly the hardest class to use from my expierance. and From what it says describing them.
The funny thing is I was on Ant. 8 tonight, some man named FOmarKiller (he's a FOnewmn) comes on and starts making fun of me because n00bs use FOmars? Eh?
He starts blabbering how they suck and so they are for n00bs. Pretty much contradicting himself right there because it takes a skilled player to use a crappy character and survive. He kept giong off about how their mst is crap and their Hp is crap and saying that since RAfoi and GIfoi techs are stronger on a FOnewm that it makes him a less n00b? ok yeah i wonder when this guy is going to feel like the real asshole and understand how stupid he is?
Obv. FOnewmn is a stronger character, and most probably can clear areas before a FOmar can. However the n00bness is definitly flipped on that one buddy!
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Ghaleon
01-04-2003, 09:22 PM
lol i hate people like that
Sedyne
01-04-2003, 09:33 PM
On 2003-01-04 19:22, Ghaleon wrote:
lol i hate people like that
Yeah but i Guess telling him to go kill himself was a little over the edge huh =(. (oh well i'll end up paying for my sins anyway, as if i havn't lost enough)
Ghaleon
01-04-2003, 09:40 PM
naaah. lol i dont think that was over the edge
Ropponmatsu
01-04-2003, 09:56 PM
Force are quite difficult to play the game solo since you pretty much depend on TP! I use a FOnewearl for there high mind but I'm just leaving it alone for right now till I can get online.
Fireball
01-04-2003, 09:59 PM
I got lot FO rare and my name is ace(online)
Ghaleon
01-04-2003, 10:03 PM
awww i wish i could get online
hucasts_rock
01-04-2003, 10:18 PM
On 2003-01-04 19:56, Ropponmatsu wrote:
Force are quite difficult to play the game solo since you pretty much depend on TP! I use a FOnewearl for there high mind but I'm just leaving it alone for right now till I can get online.
I agree. My FOmar is at level 114 and all I do is play online...I haven't even beat normal mode offline http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif...I could beat it,I just don't wanna ^_^;...my FOmar is best 4 supporting the high atp chars and doing xtra damage to the enemies...yet very fun to use http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
Ghaleon
01-04-2003, 10:19 PM
cant wait til i get my fomar to a high level
watashiwa
01-04-2003, 10:33 PM
On 2003-01-04 19:56, Ropponmatsu wrote:
Force are quite difficult to play the game solo since you pretty much depend on TP!
Speak for yourself. ;p
i dont ever want to see a stinking fonewm insult a FOmar. FOnewms have a Huge Man-Ass, and that makes them the most dislikeable, unplayable character in the game if you ask me.
FOmar tears ass, my lv 104 FOmar can hold his own offline, even in ulti mines-ruins
its called jellen and zalure http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif
Kalbelgarion
01-05-2003, 12:06 AM
IMHO, FOmars are vastly inferior to FOnewearls...but I base that entirely on the most important stat to a FOrce, MST. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
AzureBlaze
01-05-2003, 12:17 AM
Did you say...FOmarKiller?
This sounds a whole lot like a pair of people from the DC version called FOmarlR4pist (who was a FOnewm) and FOnewmKiller (who was a FOmarl) their sole purpose in the game seemed to be to go and insult whichever class their names indicated, and to try and BA against their hated classes. I wonder if this is the same yahoo that came after your guy? And no, they never made any sense on DC either...as is usually the way with haters.
Personally, I just created a FOmar and it seems pretty cool so far, with the best aspect being better ATP and HP then my old FO, the FOnewearl. Also, Gi techs being most powerful, they use less TP then the RA series and still do great damage. Also, you can use weps and merges to boost your RA, as there's lots out there that does it.
On 2003-01-04 22:03, IVI wrote:
i dont ever want to see a stinking fonewm insult a FOmar. FOnewms have a Huge Man-Ass
Or an outfit which can create such an illusion?
CajunSamurai
01-05-2003, 12:33 AM
FOmar has been a very different experience for me than FOnewearl... I think I still prefer FOnewearl, but I've liked the FOmar class enough to get him up to Lv120.
Why do I enjoy this class? POWERFUL gi spells for one; I've learned to love Gifoie and it's one of my most used techs now.
My RAmarl has found him a few Elysions, and amazingly he can do a VERY nice amount of damage using it, even though his mag only has 20 Pow. So, they definitely can hold their own in melee when they run low on magic. With shifta and zalure, he can get over 300 damage in Ultimate with a strong attack using one.
It's definitely been a challenge... but it's been a very enjoyable one.
Chibi-Chao
01-05-2003, 12:33 AM
Strange.... I'm finding that FOmars are a lot easier to use than the other Forces... might just be me.. but they're really good with a TP absorbing weapon...
watashiwa
01-05-2003, 12:36 AM
On 2003-01-04 22:06, Kalbelgarion wrote:
IMHO, FOmars are vastly inferior to FOnewearls...but I base that entirely on the most important stat to a FOrce, MST. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
.. and that is the funniest thing I've heard all day.
Roontek
01-05-2003, 06:47 AM
On 2003-01-04 22:03, IVI wrote:
i dont ever want to see a stinking fonewm insult a FOmar. FOnewms have a Huge Man-Ass, and that makes them the most dislikeable, unplayable character in the game if you ask me.
Just because they look different means they suck? Hmmm...when did this come into effect? And just because they look bad means they are the most "unplayable" character? I think you have some issues with this and might wanna get them checked out! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif btw, I have a FOnewm, and I like playing him better than a FOmar...
they dont suck because they look different, they suck because they look bad
no really, i have no problem with fonewms. i had one in v2, but could only bring myself to use him in battle. when it comes down to it, if fonewm floats your boat, go for it.
Ghaleon
01-05-2003, 10:18 AM
hey watashiwa. i looked at your website (i think it was yours) and watched some other the movies http://www.pioneer2.net/ . is that FOmar yours? hehe if he is then i have to tell you he kicks some major ass.
Ninpo_Tamashii
01-05-2003, 12:20 PM
On 2003-01-04 22:06, Kalbelgarion wrote:
IMHO, FOmars are vastly inferior to FOnewearls...but I base that entirely on the most important stat to a FOrce, MST. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
And that's precicely the reason why dat azz will get busted offline and anytime they gotta be on their own to be frank.
Here's the bottom line, FOnewmans are basically BEST at offensive tech damage..., can't really melee to save themselves.., but the extra damgae they deal with techs, if worked corectly with Wands and Mergues..., could deal a good ammount of damage if they worked it that way.....and had a psyco wand perhaps. FOwearls.., yeah, they got high mst...but...umm..... All the FOwearls my level i played with..my techs do more damage than theirs basically and we're the same level. That's when i'm in my magic mode however, I'm just as good as they are, and the slight diffrence in damge is the same.., if not no more than maybe 40 points..., big...whoop...O.o.... They get no bonus damage to techs but simple techs..., and who the phuck uses those agasint a group of Vulmers hauling azz at you?? o.o nobody -blinks- They can't use hardly any decent weapons in the game, and if they got their hands on one, their atp is freakin' rediculously low. Where as if i Decided to melee with my FOmar, Out comes the banish, double saber and mech guns, and i'm up there dealing AS MUCH DAMAGE, if not more than Hunters i'm playing with. Anybody that's played with me can confirm this. My FOmar will bust dat azz.., keep the rest of the team busting that ass, make sure monsters got Zalure and Jallen on them, and resta/reverser people when needed. And when i want to, out come the angel wings (mind mag) and which ever FO wep i choose to use, and the roasting fest continues.., I roast just as much and just as long as any newman at my level, and as i said earlier, diffrences in damage is slim to none.... My point, Don't tell me FOmars are inferior to other forces based off some stupid mst score... Its what the scores are over all. I'd give up highest mst in the game any day to get highest atp of any force, yeah HP might not be the greatest, but to be frank, i'm comparing my HP to that of some HUmars, and its not much diffrence.., Defense is not much of an issue when Deband adds around +400 to your already existing score.., and with decent armor your evp will be in check. the fomar's TRUEST WEAKNESS is the fact that he has the lowest ATA in the whole game, out of all the classes. But all that says is max out class limit.., and find weps with Hit %...and problem solved. If you want verifcation that a FOmar can dish out as much damage as a Hunter, and Cast just as good as any newman, pm me, and we'll meet and i'll give you examples on any stage in the game to show you stright up FOmars own. And with a group of androids with him...., that is an unstoppbable group. mah 10 cents
Cloak
01-05-2003, 12:45 PM
i dont ever want to see a stinking fonewm insult a FOmar. FOnewms have a Huge Man-Ass, and that makes them the most dislikeable, unplayable character in the game if you ask me.
FOnewm Big AssCoat VS. FOmar Pretty-Pretty Princess Gown
YOU be the judge!
Cloak
01-05-2003, 12:54 PM
just as good as any newman, pm me, and we'll meet and i'll give you examples on any stage in the game to show you stright up FOmars own.
Ok, I'd love to see your fomar come to me with Seabed and do good damage with a weapon. It's fun having lowest ATA in game, no? I'd also like to see him stand up to enemy attacks and not get owned, since you did say he's just as good as any hunter, if not better. Yeah, fomars can do some melee damage, but who wants to run around with a soul eater doing 115 damage and missing 3/5 the time when you could do 400 damage and never miss? Bleh.
PS. Since a lot of people don't know, FOnewm gets a boost to Ra- techs AND Gi- techs. A max MST FOnewm will do more damage with a Gi- tech than a max MST FOmar.
doesn't anyone understand the concept of a robe? or have IQ's dropped slightly while i was away?
while fonewm looks like a keebler elf, FOmar look slike an oldschool wizard, specialy with the pointed hat on.
im trying not to bash fonewm or any class, cuz i wouldn't want any of them removed. but you people insisting fonewm/newearl are so incredibly better need to wake the hell up. EVERY CLASS HAS GOOD AND BAD POINTS! threads like this have been going on since version one on DC and they never fawking end.
FONEWM is not better than FOMAR
FOMAR is not better than FONEWM
end of fucking story, grow up and quit bickering like 7 year olds fighting over who's toys are better
Cloak
01-05-2003, 03:05 PM
Calm down, unbunch teh panties Mr. The gown thing is a joke. And I already know no class is better, it depends how you like to play. But I can say that FOnewm is best for area clearing with techniques. Or I can say FOmarl is best at Shifta/Debanding from across the room and getting rid of Hildelts with Grants faster than anyone else. Etc..
Ninpo_Tamashii
01-05-2003, 04:19 PM
On 2003-01-05 13:05, Cloak wrote:
Or I can say FOmarl is best at Shifta/Debanding from across the room
Fomars get that...., and fomars also get a 1.3 boost to grants..., and about the running around with the soul eater, I use the banish.., i'm sorry..., and even if i did i'd be doing SLIGHTLY less than 400 with my hard attacks with my Eater, and with my banish i clear 400 easily.....I dunno who/what FOmar's you've seen but maybe you should ask some of the people i play with, Phanlanx is one, Special_Weapon_Fomarl is one, Black Fox Raven is one, so many others...and they will tell you the "little" damage i do with my banish. Just to give you an Idea Numberwise how the stats are for damage.., when i have shifta on, and i'm using my soul banish, My atp is 1783, and also when i haev my red saber equipped my atp raises to 2049, and I haven't even reached class limit yet. My ata with My banish is 208, enough to hit anything easily from forest up to caves. Mines is slightly diffrent but that's why FOmars got a boost to GIfoie, also in the ruins, all you need is a weapon with hit % -like myr ed saber- and then wow.., alot of that is negitated... The point is FOmars have the OPTION to melee easily, or cast magic easily and just as good as anybody else virtually. That doesn't mean they ignore magic...else why the hell would i have a 182 mind on my magic mag? or all melee. FOmar can do BOTH and do both GOOD. And i'd invite anybody else who wants to see prof, I already sent her the message to mr/miss cloak lady man -can't be sure with pso these days- and we'll be playing soon so he/she can eat those words, I'm just wondering if its anybody else stepping up to bat?
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beamscythe
01-05-2003, 07:51 PM
I never did play with (or see) people called FOmarlR4pist or FOnewmkiller or whatnot with the dreamcast one (I'm not online with GC), but I'm pretty sure that if you're actually a chick playing a FOmarl, the FOmarlR4pist would actually try to hit on you. Happens all the time, even with the 'tough' hackers.
I personally am playing a FOmar on the Gamecube, but not how you're supposed to play him. My first and only MAG I've raised has some stats of 14-121-4-0 or something like that, and my techniques are only found- I haven't bought one from the store yet (so basically my techs suck). I haven't used any of my materials either, so I'm pretty much a cut-and-dry sucky HUmar http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
ManInBlueHat
01-05-2003, 10:45 PM
- Just my personal experience here - I bought the game for GC knowing that I'd have a FOnewm as a main char.; I hadn't played the game on DC but several of my friends did, and i had a fair understanding of it. However, when I finally got the game and experimented with all of the different char. types, I just couldn't find a FOnewm that I could look at for more than a minute. (the big soles on their shoes reminded me of the kind of thing a mentally handicapped person would wear) I made a FOmar instead. I admire the stats of a FOnewm, but the clothing makes my eyes bleed with pity.
Sedric
01-06-2003, 12:50 AM
FOmar is challenging cause of his low HP (a huge handicap) and low MST (by FO's standards). Top it with his "trade-offs" he make when he equips a weapon, and you get one serious bad-ass vet-only character. FOmar is not really for novices, though there's nothing wrong for them to use em.
What I like about FOmar is their "flexibility." His potential for melee-combat (given the right mag, weapons, and high lvl S&D) truly opens up for a second option to dealing with enemies. Too bad his low HP limits this to a great degree.
Another thing I like about em is their robe dress. It truly displays their manly nature.
Kuja2k3
01-06-2003, 01:19 AM
I played a FOmar on the japanese version, got him up to level 68 or so..you're correct, FOmars, if used correctly, can dish out some mean damage. However, most people do not want a Melee force in their team. Even if you use shifta/deband, etc. So, I'd rather be a FOnewm, or a HUmar and do what i want to do with each character, than being verbally harassed trying to do two things with one.
Ghaleon
01-06-2003, 01:22 AM
However, most people do not want a Melee force in their team.
thats why you make 2 mags so you can be a tech and melee FOmar
Ninpo_Tamashii
01-06-2003, 01:51 PM
Hence my profile......, thank you Galeon, nice to see some peoples can figure these things out O.o()
Ghaleon
01-07-2003, 06:42 AM
http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
Skies
01-07-2003, 07:21 AM
We got some big opinions here!
I have a FOmar not very high yet but he still rocks!
FOmars may have that Hp but if you cant handle it then keep your comments!
Just feed your MAGS as often as you can myns only lv 16 and cause i feed my MAG somuch he can do 60 damage each weak attack!
Ninpo_Tamashii
01-07-2003, 05:29 PM
To be honest..., i said this in another Forum. You can avoid 60-90% of most attacks from just how you position yourslef, how you move, and how you attack. The thing is, some people just use a hunter, Humar, or Hucast, and sit there an get used to have their stats keep them alive cus they can be hit. SO they don't learn to dodge correctly.., ONLY when they get to a new difficulty maybe and the monsters are a bit strong and their stat's haven't caught up. Being a FOmar and knowing that its better to move, or do a 2 hit combo instead of a 3 saves you in the long run. All it takes is Zalure and or Jallen to get experience from a group of monsters. Do that, then you can just sit back and resta things if you're too low. And when you get a lil stronger, go in and attack more agressivly. Just use common sense. Half the people who complain about fomar's aren't TRULY good at fighting...they are used to stats so fighting technique hasn't grown as it should. So when they don't have their stats to rely on anymore, its "SOO difficult, so the class must suck" no..., u just need to practice more -blinks- try it sometime u might surprise yourself
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