Codes needed for AoI? (read "Are two copies needed?")

[Chii]

I apologize for starting another thread on this, but was not exactly sure on how it was supposed to work EVEN after reading the two threads that made a mention of it. Since it seemed that in both of these cases it was unknown or just not very clear. Furthermore since the threads were deemed as "too old" I could not reply to them to ask.

As I had intended to post initially, "So in order to update two Play Sega accounts to AoI online, two copies would be needed because of the code? Because until now I'd been playing on mine and my brother started playing as well on an account he purchased after using my PSU installation. :> (Maybe I am an oddball, but I did not think that two people installing from one copy is wrong since the bit you pay the most for is online... )

Just clarifying things.... thanks!"


Thanks again!


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[beatrixkiddo]

So by extension, is it okay if 1000 people install one copy since the bit they pay for is online?

[omegapirate2k]

If your looking for a keygen or something, this is definitely the wrong place XD

[Krisan]

The question more boiled down to.. "Do I need to buy two copies of this, or will one suffice?" And quite frankly, I've been wondering the same for similar reasons for quite awhile now. Unfortunately, I don't think anyone has the answer to this question, so uhm.. probably just going to have to wait until the 20th to find out. =/


On 2007-11-18 09:02, beatrixkiddo wrote:
So by extension, is it okay if 1000 people install one copy since the bit they pay for is online?


Well.. that's stretching the principle to an extreme length. I assume both he and his brother live in the same household, so uh.. doesn't seem so unreasonable to say one box-copy per household is a perfectly legitimate thing go with, I mean what are two copies of the same thing going to a single household going to accomplish (when there is no key to differentiate the copies) aside from cluttering anyway..? Besides, yea, there is a subscription fee for a reason. And both have to pay for it when using separate accounts.

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[Reipard]

I don't think anyone really knows for sure. My understanding is that Sega's kept a pretty tight lid on whether or not AOI will have CD-Keys.

PSU didn't have CD Keys and Sega of America is not prone to learning their lesson though, so you may just be all right.

[Krisan]

I'm really not sure why PSU didn't have a key on our side of the waters, when the original JP version had one.. Maybe SoA just felt lazy with their billing system? *shrugs*

[Reipard]

I honestly wouldn't know what went through their minds. Perhaps Sega thought they could utilize the torrenting and such as a way to reel in more online customers.

[Chii]

Let me be crystal clear about this.

I asked because my brother and I (I am NOT a he for the record) do share an apartment since we both attend the UofA, as it saves money so yes we live together. As a result we do share software when possible if we both use it because again it saves money.

So 1000 in a household? No... but if you live in these kind of conditions I believe you should check the federal regulations in your area about this type of thing.

I DID ask because for those games that we have played together (Anarchy Online, Eve Online, PSU, etc), ONE of us went and bought a boxed version while the other bought the subscription from the website since we have the software at hand. Why? Because it allows for a sampling of the game to decide IF one or both of us want to get into it. Because what would be the point of buying two subscriptions/box sets if one or both of us stop playing it within the first day/week? (Yeay let us throw 60-100 dollars down the drain)

Furthermore, I for one do not care if it's an expansion to "add more features". I've seen a large number of expansions that destroy the game rather than help it when they try to do this same thing. So if this does end up being the case, I for one would not want to pay twice for the software pertaining to a piece of crap if I can avoid it.

Second point NO... I am not looking for some ****ing keygen. The mere suggestion that I would be THAT STUPID is an insult quite frankly. To be honest, I am half expecting an apology because of the sheer stupidity that goes into that implication.

Finally, the reason I did ask is because of the point that Krisan added. The US version did in fact NOT have a key needed to activate an online subscription or to install as evidenced by the contents of the PSU box sitting on a bookshelf.

/end rant.

Please for love of god people, think before you post. Or use whatever remaining portion of what brains you had to begin with to make the post useful instead of attempting to sound witty.

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[Raine_Loire]

I think you ended your rant a little too soon... No, really, how do you FEEL? Anyway, so you're saying you have two different computers? Well when you aren't really clear on your initial post, you can't jump down ppls throats when they misunderstand, can you?

Your initial post should have just said "My brother and I live together, are on the pc/ps2 servers, and have two separate PSU accounts. Will we need 2 copies of AoI to allow us both to play it, or will it be like PSU without a cd key?" Then if someone said something about 1000 people on one disk, you could have gone off on them, but at least it would have put your question out there more clearly.

No one criticized you not wanting to plunk down 100 more dollars for the expansions for both you and your brother, or said anything about the content you'll be getting being worth the price!

If you are required to get 2 copies, the logical thing for you to do is buy one, and have the brother wait a week to see if it's something he wants to buy. If it is, he buys it. If both of you hate it, you split the cost of the initial one, and welcome to the world of PC gaming. Life's about risks.



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[Indica]

Serial Number is definatly good for this game.

I do support software and music piracy but my favor for this game is if a Hacker is banned they will have to purchase a new CD in order to get back on

[Wallin]

On 2007-11-18 12:47, Indica wrote:
Serial Number is definatly good for this game.

I do support software and music piracy but my favor for this game is if a Hacker is banned they will have to purchase a new CD in order to get back on



So it's okay to rob companies of real money for software and music, but it's not okay for someone to steal virtual items and money in a game... W T F?

[Indica]

On 2007-11-18 12:56, Wallin wrote:

On 2007-11-18 12:47, Indica wrote:
Serial Number is definatly good for this game.

I do support software and music piracy but my favor for this game is if a Hacker is banned they will have to purchase a new CD in order to get back on



So it's okay to rob companies of real money for software and music, but it's not okay for someone to steal virtual items and money in a game... W T F?



Yes, F_ Corporate America. Direct your complaints to the Oil and Pharmacutical Industry

[Chii]

Hmmm my apologies.

I thought that I had made it quite clear that it I'd mentioned that one purchased client was being put on two different computers. It seemed that this was understood to me at least.

This being because the comment was made about the 1000 people using one installation to play. Which was stated as "So by extension, is it okay if 1000 people install one copy since the bit they pay for is online? "

Note the 1000 people, and how they are installing from that SINGLE copy.

Maybe I am missing another way of interpreting it... but how can one possibly interpret the comment about installing it on 1000 other computers in another fashion? Other than the idea of implying that you are going to allow 1000 others (or some other unreasonable number of people) to install it on their computers from your installation. The only other interpretation of this would be that you would install it 1000 times on your own computer (or again multiple times on your own computer). Which makes no sense if you think about it realistically because what would it accomplish?

Furthermore, I also never said that anyone did critize my decisions on purchasing a second copy. I only added that bit of information to elaborate on my opinion on why I did not wish to buy two copies up front if this was the case. But since it is semi relevant to the topic at hand... here were my original ideas on whether a second copy was needed or not.

If no, my brother or I could purchase a copy... whoever managed to get ahold of it first. And the other could install it afterward and continue playing with an upgraded version, or pay whatever cost it would be to upgrade the account. If yes than one of us could try it out first with the other one either watching it or trying it out later on that account and decide from there.


I apologize that it was not clear the first time, and hopefully at least now it is clear. If not please do tell me so that I may explain in better detail my intentions about the post.

*EDIT*

Apparantly this comment was made while I was creating a response. But what does having to buy a second CD for two accounts have to do with getting banned for hacking?

Please try to keep things on topic so that eventually an answer can be obtained and this thread is not closed due to hijacking.

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[disneyland]

1) The 1000 person comment is referring to downloading the iso instead of buying it

2) Amerikkka

3) If the game requires a serial and a hacker gets banned so does that serial key which means he needs a new copy to play again.

4) Second copy would be needed if they add cd keys

[Chii]

On 2007-11-18 13:11, disneyland wrote:
1) The 1000 person comment is referring to downloading the iso instead of buying it

2) Amerikkka

3) If the game requires a serial and a hacker gets banned so does that serial key which means he needs a new copy to play again.

4) Second copy would be needed if they add cd keys




1) I understand that this was one interpretation of the response. But, it was not really relevant to what I was asking

2) What?

3) I understand that, but what does that have to do with this thread? (IE KEEP ON TOPIC :>)

4) I know that, thanks http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif But please keep it on topic >.>

[disneyland]

Then what do you want? No one knows if there are cd keys yet.

[foamcup]

On 2007-11-18 12:59, Indica wrote:

On 2007-11-18 12:56, Wallin wrote:

On 2007-11-18 12:47, Indica wrote:
Serial Number is definatly good for this game.

I do support software and music piracy but my favor for this game is if a Hacker is banned they will have to purchase a new CD in order to get back on



So it's okay to rob companies of real money for software and music, but it's not okay for someone to steal virtual items and money in a game... W T F?



Yes, F_ Corporate America. Direct your complaints to the Oil and Pharmacutical Industry



Yes, let's complain to the oil companies while we steal music from the MUSIC companies. That's....that's genius.

[Chii]

On 2007-11-18 13:20, disneyland wrote:
Then what do you want? No one knows if there are cd keys yet.




That was the point of the thread, and it had been answered and you just did it again.

*Thinks she should PM to have this thing closed*

[Sekani]

On 2007-11-18 13:01, Chii wrote:
This being because the comment was made about the 1000 people using one installation to play. Which was stated as "So by extension, is it okay if 1000 people install one copy since the bit they pay for is online? "

Note the 1000 people, and how they are installing from that SINGLE copy.

Maybe I am missing another way of interpreting it... but how can one possibly interpret the comment about installing it on 1000 other computers in another fashion? Other than the idea of implying that you are going to allow 1000 others (or some other unreasonable number of people) to install it on their computers from your installation. The only other interpretation of this would be that you would install it 1000 times on your own computer (or again multiple times on your own computer). Which makes no sense if you think about it realistically because what would it accomplish?

You're all hung up on this as though the guy slapped your mother or something. It's not that serious, jeez.

At any rate, the answer to your question is a resounding "We don't know", so I'd suggest PMing a moderator to get this locked before someone else posts another smart-ass comment and you give yourself an aneurism.

[Ryna]

Locked at the OP's request.