Expert Classes

[Zekester]

So AcroFighter.

Was expecting alot more of weapons variety.

I thought it was basically ForetFighter, but just the addition of Slicers and status changes and speed, etc.

Im dissappointed on the fact I can't use most of my FF gear.

What are yalls take on the new classes?

[Remedy]

AF: Would be fun if I liked melee. I may give it a whirl regardless.
AT: Stupid bastards taking my level 40 support. >:|

[Zael]

They're both awesome http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Randomness]

I may try AF somewhere down the line, but not right now.

On the other hand, I'm diving into AT because I'm curious how the balance of melee/tehcs is for them.

[Pengfishh]

Acrofighter is my ideal class. Fits my playstyle perfectly.

[Aviva]

i am upset that since the Acrofight it supposed to be the support class but can't use rods...i ONLY buff if i can put them all on one rod.....you can call it "noob" if you want but having to switch out all the time...= annoying

[Nyreal]

Madoogs.

Also, Acrotecher.

[Randomness]

Yeah, grab a 1* wand, and a 1* madoog, and you have 4 techs on one palette slot.

[Aviva]

On 2007-11-21 18:31, Aviva wrote:
i am upset that since the Acrotecher it supposed to be the support class but can't use rods...i ONLY buff if i can put them all on one rod.....you can call it "noob" if you want but having to switch out all the time...= annoying

[Zekester]

It's just the main weapons as a Fighter you should use, you can't use as a AcroFighter and it aggrvates me like no other.
Like, the only S-ranks you can use are: Saber, Single Dagger, Single Claw, Slicer, Handgun, Ma/Shdoogs.

I'll try it out, but I'll miss my Knuckles http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

[Zorafim]

Finally an excuse to use a newman. Quick, simple weapons and techs that are easy to carry. The small weapon selection is a downfall, but it builds their class image well.

[AlphaDragoon]

On 2007-11-21 19:11, Zekester wrote:
It's just the main weapons as a Fighter you should use, you can't use as a AcroFighter and it aggrvates me like no other.

Acrofighter WAS MADE to specialize in fast attacks with single-handed weapons, which don't get much love due to Majarra/Axe spammers. If they didn't well...they'd be Fortefighters. So go play that if you don't like it.

[Deja]

Acrotecher fits my Cast perfectly. Melee with daggers (good damage, and always fun to twirl) and whips (bad damage, but a SE machine), and cast support with level 40 buffs.

It's just awesome, also the God/battle add on rocks my face.

[Zekester]

On 2007-11-21 19:15, AlphaDragoon wrote:

On 2007-11-21 19:11, Zekester wrote:
It's just the main weapons as a Fighter you should use, you can't use as a AcroFighter and it aggrvates me like no other.

Acrofighter WAS MADE to specialize in fast attacks with single-handed weapons, which don't get much love due to Majarra/Axe spammers. If they didn't well...they'd be Fortefighters. So go play that if you don't like it.




In my thoughts of AcroFighter I though they were the next class for Fighters, so I assumed they would have most Melee weapons to use. Excuse me for being wrong.

[AlphaDragoon]

On 2007-11-21 19:50, Zekester wrote:
In my thoughts of AcroFighter I though they were the next class for Fighters, so I assumed they would have most Melee weapons to use. Excuse me for being wrong.

What do you mean by that? They ARE fighters...just not with heavy weapons. You can be a fighter class without having to have a massive weapons selection, and if they did it would just make the class cheap.

[Aviendha]

I can't go back to any other melee class after AF. I tried FI out again, and the attacks were painfully slow, in exchange for 10ATP...so AF is gonna outdamage FI with any single handed weapon period, and probably some two-handed weapons as well (Twin Claws and Twin Daggers I'm looking at you) Really, unless you're a big fan of Double Saber or crossbow there's no reason to play FI over AF. I won't play anything but AF until AM comes out (if it ever does)

[gryphonvii]

Until AF can use s-rank twin daggers, it will never be my main class, but I do enjoy playing them for the speed, high evp and level 30 cards.

[Shiro_Ryuu]

I like it that Acrofighters and Acrotechers get a narrow selection of weapons. Its Sega's way of justifying their uber stats, high speed, and such. Don't know if it succeeds at making them unbroken, but yeah.

[SStrikerR]

On 2007-11-21 21:02, AlphaDragoon wrote:

On 2007-11-21 19:50, Zekester wrote:
In my thoughts of AcroFighter I though they were the next class for Fighters, so I assumed they would have most Melee weapons to use. Excuse me for being wrong.

What do you mean by that? They ARE fighters...just not with heavy weapons. You can be a fighter class without having to have a massive weapons selection, and if they did it would just make the class cheap.

side note: ACRO is short for acrobatic.
can't be acrobatic lugging around a huge axe/sword/spear/rod. no matter how much you think they'd be light in real life acro classes will specialise in 1h weps, get over it. I did already, by not playing them, most 1h weps suck ass.
>_>

[Schubalts]

1 handers are awesome! You take that back, you blasphemer!

[Aviendha]

On 2007-11-22 13:48, Ryan113 wrote:

On 2007-11-21 21:02, AlphaDragoon wrote:

On 2007-11-21 19:50, Zekester wrote:
In my thoughts of AcroFighter I though they were the next class for Fighters, so I assumed they would have most Melee weapons to use. Excuse me for being wrong.

What do you mean by that? They ARE fighters...just not with heavy weapons. You can be a fighter class without having to have a massive weapons selection, and if they did it would just make the class cheap.

side note: ACRO is short for acrobatic.
can't be acrobatic lugging around a huge axe/sword/spear/rod. no matter how much you think they'd be light in real life acro classes will specialise in 1h weps, get over it. I did already, by not playing them, most 1h weps suck ass.
>_>


Many 2h weps suck. Knux are only good for Zubba, Sword has all its PAs outdone by Spear, and Double Saber is vastly overrated. Axes are okay but really only excel on bosses, which Majarra is still good on. So the only 2h AF doesn't get that would really make much difference is spear. Their lack of S-ranks is outweighed by speed bonus on Twin Daggers and Twin Sabers. There are only 4 1h melee weaps (whips are a fore weapon anyway) of which only Claw is really not very useful, but you should withhold judgement on it until the new PA comes out, which looks quite strong.

[Schubalts]

Claws are awesome. Why does everyone hate claws? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

[Kinako78]

I like claws. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Jao]

majarra sux now

[Broodstar1337]

On 2007-11-22 16:46, Jao wrote:
majarra sux now



way to troll, troll

[Jao]

ok

[Zekester]

After experienceing AF, I kinda like it. Shadoogs are fun little shooting robots. The speed is insane and above all the class is enjoyable.

[Shiro_Ryuu]

Actually, AF doesn't only get a speed bonus for Twin Sabers and Daggers, they get a bonus for all the melee weapons they can use.

[_K1_]

I like Acrofighter, slicers and R-mags are an excellent combination. I've always liked single-handed weapons as well, so having those skills already leveled helped a lot, as did having high-level cards. Blowing throw enemies with the Slicer PA is something everyone should try.

Acrotecher, on the other hand, I love. I expected to hate this class, thinking it would just be resta-slave, but instead it's a melee class, which also has the best support in the game. With AT casting speed + me/quick + TECH-mag, casting resta or buffs isn't nearly as slow as it was as an FT, so doing support doesn't mean taking time out from damage dealing. AT also has the durability that's lacking in FT -- you can take hits from monsters without worrying about your HP all the time. I had expected to be a drag on Sakura Blast S parties when I first switched to AT, but the exact opposite has been true: I can help everyone out with buffs and heals while dealing damage with my Crimson. Techer + S rank sabers is an excellent combination.

Since I dual-classed FF and FT, I sort of lean towards Acrotecher, but I'm sure I'm going to end up capping both classes.

On a final note, I think it's great that AoI has totally reversed things: hunters are standing away from enemies blasting slicers, while the techers in the middle of the action spamming Spinning Strike http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif I like it.

[mizukage]

On 2007-11-22 16:34, Schubalts wrote:
Claws are awesome. Why does everyone hate claws? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif



Everyone? Not me.. I like claw and twin claw. Actually, I guess its not that I like it, but rather something I have recently started to use more often. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Zekester]

I like claws too more than daggers actually, but Knuckles still are my fav http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[cloud805]

On 2007-11-21 17:39, Zael wrote:
They're both awesome http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif


what r u smoking i dont like either

[Schubalts]

That doesn't mean they aren't awesome. :3

[Carlo210]

I find the PAs for the claws lacking in the amount of hits they spit out. Daggers do a lot of rapid hits while Sabers are stronger. Claws seem like they should be in the middle, but they aren't. They are around the same atp as sabers, but have worse PAs and don't cause as much hits or do as much damage as dagger or Sabers PAs. Not to mention the PP on claws is unforgiving (in PSUv1 at least) and they drained out pretty quickly when spamming their average-ish PAs.

[xzidanex]

I don't really like acrofighter... acrotecher however, is a very fun class to melee with o.O

[DarkGiant]

...............i'm still yet to try one of the acro classes.......-_-.......i'll most likely try Acrofighter first though.

[Marik]

I like Acrofighter alot. Slicers are very fun to use. Haven't tried Acrotecher and probably won't. I don't like leveling spells and being support. Level 20 skills and bullet caps are a downer also.

[xzidanex]

Well, I like slicers, but I can use them on my fortefighter, so I don't really care much XD And whips are just fun.

[pikachief]

On 2007-11-21 18:40, Aviva wrote:

On 2007-11-21 18:31, Aviva wrote:
i am upset that since the Acrotecher it supposed to be the support class but can't use rods...i ONLY buff if i can put them all on one rod.....you can call it "noob" if you want but having to switch out all the time...= annoying





ummm put a madoog and wand nad its like a wand but FASTER and MORE TP! XD

lol better than a buff rod >.> http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[mvffin]

Oh yeah, my buff rod is a Cometarac/Pegic. 2100 PP of buffy goodness.

I don't understand why no one plays AcroTECHER as a teching class. everyone just casts buffs then uses melee/guns. My acro techer's pallet is almost nothing but Serdote/Pegita. and it takes FOREVER to run out of PP on them. Once My Gi spells are all leveled I will be a FORCE to be reckoned with.

I've also seen a surprising number of Wartechers lately just because of whips.

[majan]

aggrofighters are prety much evolutions of the current hybrid expert classes.

fighgunner --> acrofighter
similar weapon balance with range and melee,minus crowssbows sword and watever else,but a much different play style.relies heavily on slicers and the other S rank single hand weaps.

acrotecher is a litlte different,and its sort of the love child of guntecher and wartecher.faster casting with decent offensive techs,buffing,good gun and melee support.very good class for soloing.

[Darksparda]

If you ask me both acro classes are awesome. They are great for soloing (at least in my opinion).

[Miyuki-chan]

The original 1h claw PA Shousen Totsuzan-ga (the tornado uppercut one) got horribly nerfed with the expansion, but it was really overpowered so it was necessary....
The 2nd 1h claw PA Senten Kanzan-ga (cartwheel jump) which was fairly weak in v1, is now a very formidable attack despite the low hit count on it. Seeing it JA crit a Kog Nadd for well over 2000 dmg (PA lvl 17) when done by an 85/10 Newearl FF is just plain scary!
Plus with the PP regeneration change on normal hits, it's super easy to make a 1h claw last a very long time...

In short, 1h claw is a LOT more enteraining and useful now with the changes (unless you liked spamming an overpowered PA...).
I think it's taken the place of my favorite 1h striking weapon now.

[Chaosgyro]

I was under the impression that the uppercut PA was one of the main reasons no one liked 1h claws in the first place. The range is absolutely horrid...good luck getting anywhere near your max hit count.

If I'm wrong please correct me, I'd much rather use claws than sabers for those times I switch over to AF since I find the saber attacks (normal and PA) a little lacking in eye candy.

[Jaspaller]

Acrofighter is pretty cool, and I despise the fact that only they get S-rank slicers (would be nice on Fortefighter or Fighgunner), but the weapon selection is lacking variety. I intend to mainly stick to fighgunner.

[Miyuki-chan]

The damage for the hits on the uppercut PA was quite high considering the number of hits (4 hits on 2 enemies for each part = 16 total hits). It worked really well on things like Kog Nadds and Svaltus, also bosses with hit locations close together. That damage has been toned down to a level that makes sense for a PA with that many total hits.

The cartwheel PA on the other hand never did very good damage until now. The boost for it makes it do the damage it should have done all along. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

I can't wait for the new one to arrive, 1h claw may be my new main 1h weapon!

[icy-hot]

ya the new Class's are alsome in there own way i guess lol i like the SPEED on AF that and the new Bots i can use that all:) Beastlv102 FFlv13/AFlv10/WTlv10/GTlv7 Newmanlv56 FTlv10/ATlv2