casino

[awesomegary]

every time i go to the casino i lose my silver coin. can someone give me some help on how to win more coins plz.

[Jao]

what i do is i place 10-15 coins on the 36-1 spots all together on the green spot side.
for me i have almost half the thing covered with coins its a get chance that way.
you lose 15 coins 50-50 chance of geting 36

[Randomness]

You may as well put 15 on black or red, its pretty much the same odds, and easier to do.

[Jinto117]

When do we get to collect more coins from the vendor? Is it every 24 hour period?

[Wallin]

It resets every day at 6 PM CST.

[Dracos]

I was reading on the PSU website, and one guy on there seemed to make sense, I haven't tried this out yet but this is what he said.


"For any of you who've actually been to the casino and played roulette there are several strategies. First of we have better odds because we only have a 0 and not a 0 and a 00. But we can't choose evens or odds or columns. Yesterday I went from 1 silver to 22 silver by using the method I use at the riverboat. I'll choose for instance 1-12 and 13-24, 20 coins each. That's just less than 66% chance I'll win. I do choose my 2 sections based on whats come up recently but anybody who truly knows roulette knows that you're just as likely to land on anything as anything else. Black could hit 10 times in a row but you're still just as likely to hit black once again. Going red or black is in my opinion a dumb bet of less than 50%. WHile 10 coins on 1-12, 10 on 25-36, and 5 on 0 would be good at over 66%. If you win a column you'll win 10 total but lose the 5 on 0 for a total gain of 5. If you hit 0 you'll lose 20 but gain a total of 160. Either way this is my method and that's how I gained 21 silvers in 1.5 hours."

That is what a guy named Snoochies said on this topic.

[Jinto117]

I see. So since I live in the west coast that would be 4 PM PST.

A few more questions:

When it comes to the slots what does the bottom display mean?

Play count(24 hours):???
Fever count(24 hours):???
Coins won(24 hours):???

Also, from what I've seen, does the jackpot vary from machine to machine?

[Wallin]

The bottom display is how much that particular machine has been played in the last 24 hours, how many times people entered fever mode in the last 24 hours (fever mode is obtained by getting the blue or red U, or the rappy king), and coins won in the last 24 hours.

It's pretty much the "which machine has better odds" kind of thing, but I highly doubt any of the machines differ from each other, so it's pretty irrelevant.

Also in regards to what Dracos quoted, I'm not so sure about that method. Yes, your odds are 66%, but you had to spend twice as much to get it but you didn't double your odds. If you bet 10 coins on two places, you spent 20 coins only to win 30. Is 10 coins really worth an extra 16%? If you lose twice, you have to win four times just to make up what you lost, and as he said, the place it will land is completely random (or so it seems, I still haven't seen any sort of pattern).

[Dracos]

It may not be much of a win, but its better than losing

[Randomness]

On 2007-11-22 18:04, Wallin wrote:
The bottom display is how much that particular machine has been played in the last 24 hours, how many times people entered fever mode in the last 24 hours (fever mode is obtained by getting the blue or red U, or the rappy king), and coins won in the last 24 hours.

It's pretty much the "which machine has better odds" kind of thing, but I highly doubt any of the machines differ from each other, so it's pretty irrelevant.

Also in regards to what Dracos quoted, I'm not so sure about that method. Yes, your odds are 66%, but you had to spend twice as much to get it but you didn't double your odds. If you bet 10 coins on two places, you spent 20 coins only to win 30. Is 10 coins really worth an extra 16%? If you lose twice, you have to win four times just to make up what you lost, and as he said, the place it will land is completely random (or so it seems, I still haven't seen any sort of pattern).


As for risks/rewards, I think it works out to about the same as say, just red.

With his method, discounting the 0, you have 1 loss:2 wins for odds, and 1 coin out:2 coins in for payout. Just red, a 50/50 chance, is 1:1 and 1:1 respectively.

[SJW89]

I went in today and collected my silver coin, then ended up with 8 silver coins and 53 bronze coins.

I bought a PSU Disc for my room, and then I wasted all my coins on ridiculous bets. I ended up with 0 coins. I'm going to be smart tomorrow and own the Casino.

[Kion]

try reading the wikipedia on roulette and slots. it gives a few insites on how they work, but einstein put it best when he said: "the only way to win at a roulette table is to steal from it."

with roullet, 0 and 00 give the house the advantage. The odds of winning are 1 in 38, but your cash payback will be a maximum of 36. In other words, statically 2% of your money is slipping out of your wallet each time you play.

Saving up coins will allow you to cover more spaces and even the odds alittle bit, but they will always be in the house's favor. So goto the casino, get your coins everyday, and if you decide to play quit will you are ahead. You can go back get more coins and play another time. That way you can slowly build towards the items you want.

[tirith]

ya could play a trick on the roulette table <i wouldn't do this at a real table btw> start out with a small bet, if you lose double your bet, keep doubleing you're bet untill you win, then bet small again...ex:

bet 1 copper, lose, bet 2 copper, lose, bet 4 copper, lose, bet 8 copper <total copper spent 15> win 16 back <all previous bets plus what you woulda won from your original bet....

as long as you can afford to double your bet when you eventually you win all that you previously bet plus your first bet
works best betting black or red

[Wallin]

That's actually exactly what I've been doing Tirith.

While I guess it doesn't really matter, I usually start do this when it lands on 3 of the same color in a row. Unfortunately I've seen it land on the same color 7 times in a row, I heard once it did 8. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

And in case anyone thought it wasn't possible, I have seen it land on the same number twice in a row, but only once.

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[Esufer]

If you're on 360, I can show you how to win coins. :]

[Dark1422]

can u show me please? or is there a catch...

[Esufer]

On 2007-11-23 04:32, Dark1422 wrote:
can u show me please? or is there a catch...


No catch, my gamertag is my username, I'll be online on saturday.

[Dark1422]

ahhh ok thanks man i appreciate it

[landman]

I saw yesterday 9 Black in a row... good thing I was betting on them http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif but that scared me... I'm using the double bet method and if those were red I could have lost all my money... I'm actually betting in case I can afford 5 looses, but no more...

Hey Esufer, I want to know xD (I think I saw psow members yesterday in uni 15 when I logged in)

[Esufer]

Yeah, we were there. I musta won over 60 times in a row, haha. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Rashiid]

I'd like to win, too. lol. I want that SUV and Showtime.

[pikachief]

i purposly waste all my money in the slots as soon as i get it XD

lol wehn we get our allowance of 1 silver tonight im actually gonna try to win http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

i also want showtime and the SUV ^.^

[Esufer]

I don't particularly want anything from there, I'm just unnaturally lucky on the roulette table.
Think I might get a Cataract for Tylor when its released.

[Pentence]

On 2007-11-23 15:12, Esufer wrote:
I don't particularly want anything from there, I'm just unnaturally lucky on the roulette table.
Think I might get a Cataract for Tylor when its released.


I hear that i have been makeing a killing on the ps2/pc servers.Rulette rocks with me i use the 70% bet method.About 1-3 silvers on two of the inner ring,that usualy quadrouples my money with easy.Then ocne im on a role i up it to stacks of 10 silver.

Pay 6 silvers get 9 back payout is same as 50/50 but with about a 2/3 odds.

[Esufer]

On 2007-11-23 15:45, Pentence wrote:

On 2007-11-23 15:12, Esufer wrote:
I don't particularly want anything from there, I'm just unnaturally lucky on the roulette table.
Think I might get a Cataract for Tylor when its released.


I hear that i have been makeing a killing on the ps2/pc servers.Rulette rocks with me i use the 70% bet method.About 1-3 silvers on two of the inner ring,that usualy quadrouples my money with easy.Then ocne im on a role i up it to stacks of 10 silver.

Pay 6 silvers get 9 back payout is same as 50/50 but with about a 2/3 odds.


I bet on 1/3 or numbers.

[Kietrinia]

On 2007-11-23 00:59, Wallin wrote:
And in case anyone thought it wasn't possible, I have seen it land on the same number twice in a row, but only once.
It just now happened twice on Universe 15 on PC/PS2 servers o.o;

Edit: Make that three..within the same hour o.o;;;



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[Kylie]

I only do the colors and the number groups... turned 1 silver into 16 yesterday.

[evil666lord]

On 2007-11-23 17:23, Kietrinia wrote:

On 2007-11-23 00:59, Wallin wrote:
And in case anyone thought it wasn't possible, I have seen it land on the same number twice in a row, but only once.
It just now happened twice on Universe 15 on PC/PS2 servers o.o;

Edit: Make that three..within the same hour o.o;;;



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I've watched it hit 7 3 times then 17 twice then 27 3 times. So yeah it can easily hit same number twice, I've seen twice alot but 3 times in a row almost next to each other was pretty awkward.

[Pentence]

On 2007-11-23 17:41, evil666lord wrote:

On 2007-11-23 17:23, Kietrinia wrote:

On 2007-11-23 00:59, Wallin wrote:
And in case anyone thought it wasn't possible, I have seen it land on the same number twice in a row, but only once.
It just now happened twice on Universe 15 on PC/PS2 servers o.o;

Edit: Make that three..within the same hour o.o;;;



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I've watched it hit 7 3 times then 17 twice then 27 3 times. So yeah it can easily hit same number twice, I've seen twice alot but 3 times in a row almost next to each other was pretty awkward.


Look so long as it doesnt go 666 on the roulette and magashi sunddenly apaears to wreck the joint we are all good right?

[Kietrinia]

On 2007-11-23 18:07, Pentence wrote:

On 2007-11-23 17:41, evil666lord wrote:

On 2007-11-23 17:23, Kietrinia wrote:

On 2007-11-23 00:59, Wallin wrote:
And in case anyone thought it wasn't possible, I have seen it land on the same number twice in a row, but only once.
It just now happened twice on Universe 15 on PC/PS2 servers o.o;

Edit: Make that three..within the same hour o.o;;;

I've watched it hit 7 3 times then 17 twice then 27 3 times. So yeah it can easily hit same number twice, I've seen twice alot but 3 times in a row almost next to each other was pretty awkward.


Look so long as it doesnt go 666 on the roulette and magashi sunddenly apaears to wreck the joint we are all good right?[spoiler-box]Don't you mean Howzer? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif[/spoiler-box]

[Stixx]

What I've been doing is betting 1 bronze to start, and every time I lose, I double the bet. If I win, I start over at 1 bronze. Basically, this method ensures that I get my money back (unless I wind up doubling my bet past what I have, I tell myself not to bet past 32 and call it a day when I get there) and I gain 1 bronze every time I win twice in a row.

Tomorrow when I get my new silver I'll bump my initial bet up to 2, the day after I'll bump it to 3, etc. This way, after a month or so I'll be able to make a steady stream of money (After a month, my initial bet will be 30, so i'll be making money at 30x the rate I am now). I know this might seem slow at first, but I've made a fair chunk of change. Plus, it's safe http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Maxson]

I've been using this system (which I did not make and do not get any referral money for):

http://www.andruchi.com/
(I use AdBlock so I don't know if there are annoying ads or pop-ups or whatever)

It is very slow. Much like the standard doubling system, you need to have some reserves before trying it (1 silver is not going to be enough if you're just plain unlucky). However, it does produce very safe odds, something above 99%. Also, as you gain coins, you can jump the suggested order and get higher payouts.

Of course, that fancy number assumes you believe the roulette wheel isn't truly random... but all roulette "systems" have to assume this.



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[Pentence]

well it finaly happened i lost my gold XD i bought a few items before my big bet then lost it all down to 1 silver XD and soem odd copper o well tiem to sleep ill bet more sunday http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif and try to get some back

Alas though what i ahve to show for it is a chainsawd parrot and a gameshow room http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif so im cool got the expensive stuff outa the way....for now >.>

[Wallin]

On 2007-11-23 22:37, Maxson wrote:
I've been using this system (which I did not make and do not get any referral money for):

http://www.andruchi.com/
(I use AdBlock so I don't know if there are annoying ads or pop-ups or whatever)

It is very slow. Much like the standard doubling system, you need to have some reserves before trying it (1 silver is not going to be enough if you're just plain unlucky). However, it does produce very safe odds, something above 99%. Also, as you gain coins, you can jump the suggested order and get higher payouts.

Of course, that fancy number assumes you believe the roulette wheel isn't truly random... but all roulette "systems" have to assume this.

It's an interesting system, although in my opinion there's no reason not to assume the roulette wheel is purely random, so I don't see why you'd wait for 5 consecutive spins before betting on the remaining dozen instead of just betting on the same one all the time. No matter how many people I've met who say they knew it or how long I watch the wheel, there's no real pattern to any of it (except for the sets pattern, which is somewhat unreliable). You could just as easily assume with the same pattern that you're safe betting on one color simply because the other happened 4-5 times in a row - unfortunately that's how I lost all my silver earlier today when it happened 8 times in a row instead. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Maxson]

You're completely correct. In fact, I've started simply betting his money pattern without waiting for the five- at the very least, it keeps me from going crazy and putting all my coins on zero http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Wallin]

I think any method where I only need to win one in 11 times to still make a profit is a good plan. Although even if I hadn't lost all my silver today I still couldn't afford it. Guess I'll have to work it in a factor of 5-10 bronze instead. Definitely not putting in a starting bet of only 1 bronze, LOL

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[ChaoStrike777]

My personal favorite way of gambling, take your one silver and put it on black or red, if your correct you'll get 2 silver coins, then put 1 in storage, so that way you'll save a coin, take the one silver coin and bet that, repeat the process until you lose and have no coins. (best record is 7 silver coins in one day, Long live black!)

[Arcturus]

On 2007-11-24 05:31, ChaoStrike777 wrote:
My personal favorite way of gambling, take your one silver and put it on black or red, if your correct you'll get 2 silver coins, then put 1 in storage, so that way you'll save a coin, take the one silver coin and bet that, repeat the process until you lose and have no coins. (best record is 7 silver coins in one day, Long live black!)


That's just called getting lucky. You don't have any sort of advantage doing it that way. In fact, when taking the zero into account, the odds are against you.

[Wallin]

Edit: Scratch what I said - I lost 10 times in a row where 25-36 didn't come up once and ran out of coins. I guess I'll start doing the 67% thing after all tomorrow.

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[BFGfreak]

Hear's my latest stratagy. First off, I'd like to point out that given the fact that my stratagy is more High-risk than others, you should only do it if you have a good amount of silver coins in your pocket (I had 7 when I did this, bit I highly recommend you have 10) Essentually, I combined a few of your stratagies and have started double betting on dozens. I used the pro wait 5 turns stratagy to decide which dozen to place my bet (which coincedently is the exact opposite of the 66% stratagy) and bet 1 bronze. If I win, I get 2 coins more than I had to start with, and if I lose, I double my bet. Now, the beauty of this plan is the more I lose, the more I will win when the roulette finally lands on my dozen so lets say I lost 4 times, I bet 16 coins and win, I get 48 coins back, now subtract that from the 31 coins I spent, and I get a gain of 17 coins, as opposed to the one coin gain I would have gotten had I used the same stratagy on red or black. The only real drawback is you are counting on losing to get a ton of coins in one sitting, so if you get 7 loses, your next bet has to be 1silver 28 bronze ontop what you already lost. (and I have had it go up that high) so by the time you are rich enough to relativly safely use my stratagy, you would have either A: saved up 10 coins by just collecting the coin and not risk it in the casino, or B: Developed your own playstyle which is alot safer than mine. Although think of it this way, it's alot safer than compound betting on a single number.

Although the biggest tip I can give you aspireing high rollers: Know when to quit. The greatest gambler knows when enough is enough. Set both a lose limit and a win limit (ie, if you start with 7 coins, quit when you get down to 4 coins, and when you get 14 coins) Save to gamble another day (ie, when you're friend comes online and asks if you want to go to the casino with him, that way, you can lose with a buddy)



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