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batokage
Nov 26, 2007, 12:15 PM
does anyone have info on what kind of weapons or behaviors the new Pm series use in battle? I looked at pictures and saw that the little boy uses rods and the butler uses rifles, but is there any further info so far?

Kamica
Nov 26, 2007, 12:21 PM
The butler uses Paradis Cataract as an SUV. The range of the SUV is unbelievable and has never failed to KO an enemy (in range) from what I have seen.

The PM also seems to know when to activate the SUV better than the other models. It is still far from perfect, but the improvement is noticeable.

mizukage
Nov 26, 2007, 12:40 PM
What about the hippo??

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m227/Voidox/hippochan.jpg


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Remedy
Nov 26, 2007, 12:41 PM
He isn't out.,

StkDrowsy
Nov 26, 2007, 01:15 PM
which ones are out, are theere any new ones for the 410's ?

RedMussel
Nov 26, 2007, 01:21 PM
No new pm's yet in North America, unless you meen like 413 and 414 if thats the case your way behind time.

LanVanDam13
Nov 26, 2007, 01:49 PM
where can i watch videos of these new pms

Krisan
Nov 26, 2007, 01:51 PM
All I'd like to know is how the evolution works with these new PM's.. it isn't really clear to me how you get them based on how the current system is setup.

Remedy
Nov 26, 2007, 01:56 PM
For 460 and 470 (the boy and the butler), it's BSt based. You buy a PM Device EX 460/470, and feed it to your PM if their BSt is high enough.

Krisan
Nov 26, 2007, 02:02 PM
Really? And you can do that regardless of the PM series you currently have? That's very different from what we have now.. though very interesting.

Remedy
Nov 26, 2007, 02:06 PM
It's the same with the new PM Device EX 410/420/430/440/450. They let you, assuming your PM's BSt is high enough, jump the divide into categories that shouldn't make sense, but they exist. 100 Technic 410? No problem. 100 Striking 452? You got it.

I think it's really freaking awesome, by the way. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif Maybe we'll see more lovable 45X PMs! =^.^=

Shiryuu
Nov 26, 2007, 03:03 PM
On 2007-11-26 10:56, Remedy wrote:
For 460 and 470 (the boy and the butler), it's BSt based. You buy a PM Device EX 460/470, and feed it to your PM if their BSt is high enough.


460 is a loli. 470 is the pedo-magnet. 480 is the pedo. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

Spacepest
Nov 26, 2007, 03:07 PM
Is there any links to pics of the new PMs anywhere? As I'd love to see what they look like (maybe I'll get a butler or animal PM for my Beast lady).

Kinako78
Nov 26, 2007, 03:23 PM
On 2007-11-26 11:06, Remedy wrote:
It's the same with the new PM Device EX 410/420/430/440/450. They let you, assuming your PM's BSt is high enough, jump the divide into categories that shouldn't make sense, but they exist. 100 Technic 410? No problem. 100 Striking 452? You got it.

I think it's really freaking awesome, by the way. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif Maybe we'll see more lovable 45X PMs! =^.^=



Heh, I already have one. Maybe I'll show her to you sometime. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

batokage
Nov 27, 2007, 11:54 AM
whoa, wait...what? We can cross our PM over into another series depending on the Bst? so if I wanted to I could really raise a pure pm and switch it into the 44X series? (don't ask, I just like that series in particular)

beatrixkiddo
Nov 27, 2007, 12:02 PM
Indeed, Bato.

tei
Nov 27, 2007, 12:37 PM
does anyone have info on what kind of weapons or behaviors the new Pm series use in battle?

Here (http://www.pso-world.com/items/psu/16/2352/ex_device_gh470/)'s what the GH470 looks like...

And after finding this page (http://psu.fei-yen.jp/wiki/html/DB2FA5D1A1BCA5C8A5CAA1BCA5DEA5B7A5CAA5EAA1BC2FGH47 X.html), this is (what little) I
can translated of it... He uses:

Rabbit Wand (!) with technics Foie, Digga, Barta, and Megid

Helixen (http://www.pso-world.com/items/psu/1/2199/helixen/) with technics Razonde, Rafoie, and Resta

Magical Wand (http://www.pso-world.com/items/psu/1/1605/magical_wand/) with technics Resta, and Giresta
(If GH470's the little boy, why does he use the female-only heart wand? o.o Oh well, it makes him even cuter/more shotacon.. xD;; )

Kohibumiteri (http://www.pso-world.com/items/psu/1/1608/kohibumiteri/) with bullet Masei-sou
(Now he gets the female-only heart bow.. xD)

SUV: I can't find any english version that seems to match it... The first word looks like Rapier though.. When I looked up the katakana, I found it on a japanese list of SUVs as an 8* GRM SUV worth 100,000 meseta, and I don't see one that matches that on PSO-world's list... *shrug* I kinda thought he was going to get the angel-wing SUV, but I don't know the name of that one...

Sorry, that's the best I can translate, hope it helps ^^;;

beatrixkiddo
Nov 27, 2007, 12:38 PM
Rapier Fluge/Lapia Fluge/However SoA decides to ruin it. It's a SUV that heals the entire party or something.

Spacepest
Nov 27, 2007, 12:57 PM
On 2007-11-27 09:37, tei wrote:


Here (http://www.pso-world.com/items/psu/16/2352/ex_device_gh470/)'s what the GH470 looks like...




Am I the only person here who finds it disturbingly cute? Plus its a tech type PM...hmmm, I may get this for my Beast lady then. She has a 450 series PM for constant healing, if this little...er...guy, or whatever...spams heals I'd be interested in maybe getting it for my beast.

And thank you for posting a pic up!

tei
Nov 27, 2007, 01:14 PM
Double-post, sorry... >.<;;;;

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tei
Nov 27, 2007, 01:17 PM
Ohhh, Rapier Fluge makes sense, though I still can't find any pictures or hits for that either.. Is that the angel wing one? I can't find a picture of it anywhere..

Also, found pics of GH470 with the bow (http://file.johan.blog.shinobi.jp/psu20071122_202534_002.jpg) / rabbit wand (http://file.johan.blog.shinobi.jp/psu20071122_201740_000.jpg)... from this (http://johan.blog.shinobi.jp/) blog..

And I just found the GH480/butler on that other japanese wiki-thing (http://psu.fei-yen.jp/wiki/html/DB2FA5D1A1BCA5C8A5CAA1BCA5DEA5B7A5CAA5EAA1BC2FGH48 X.html), sorry, I'm an idiot and didn't realize how to find other pages on it.. >.< It uses:

Gekitsnata (http://www.pso-world.com/items/psu/1/2164/gekitsnata/) with skill Dus Majarra (http://www.pso-world.com/items/psu/12/1225/dus_majarra/)

...Bouquet? with skill Spinning Strike (http://www.pso-world.com/items/psu/12/1020/spinning_strike/)

Burst (http://pso-world.com/items/psu/1/981/burst/) with no listed bullet

Crozara (http://www.pso-world.com/items/psu/1/874/crozara/) with technic Resta

SUV: Sorry, another one I can't translate or find a match for.. -.- I think it's Palade/Parody/Paradice/Paradis Cataract, according to the information thread. Isn't that the heaven's punisher inspired SUV?

Ahaha.. sorry again, that's the best I can do. ._.; I need to learn more than katakana...

Can't find the.. hippo... kigurumi.... animal.. thing.... there anywhere, though... Maybe Japan doesn't even have it yet?

(edit)

Am I the only person here who finds it disturbingly cute?

I think he's adorable, I've wanted him ever since the japanese version came out and they showed piccies of him. xD I'm just praying that they make his evolution device easy to obtain, like bought with meseta...I'll die if it's a rare event prize or drop though, I never get any charrie up past my 20-40s.. >.< Even after playing PSO since the dreamcast release, I only have a level 70 as my highest xD;;; Er, anyhow, it sounds like he stands back and heals lots and just fires in occasional support, so he'd prolly fit your beast well. :3 Then you could have equal-gender-oppertunity inappropriate-touching sigs images side by side! =D;;

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Spacepest
Nov 27, 2007, 01:54 PM
On 2007-11-27 10:17, tei wrote:


(edit)

Am I the only person here who finds it disturbingly cute?

I think he's adorable, I've wanted him ever since the japanese version came out and they showed piccies of him. xD I'm just praying that they make his evolution device easy to obtain, like bought with meseta...I'll die if it's a rare event prize or drop though, I never get any charrie up past my 20-40s.. >.< Even after playing PSO since the dreamcast release, I only have a level 70 as my highest xD;;; Er, anyhow, it sounds like he stands back and heals lots and just fires in occasional support, so he'd prolly fit your beast well. :3 Then you could have equal-gender-oppertunity inappropriate-touching sigs images side by side! =D;;

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(Uh oh, I sense another comic thread possibly coming on.) Yeah, it sounds like he'd work well with my Beast lady. My only complaint is that...well, he needs some pants other than the shorts. Let the kid keep some of his dignity, you know?

Also, I'd love to see pics of the animal type PMs if anyone has them. I've only seen one so far, some hippo type of thing.

I'm hoping its a store bought device as well, not a rare drop, because it takes me forever to level up as well.

tei
Nov 27, 2007, 02:28 PM
On 2007-11-27 10:54, Spacepest wrote:
(Uh oh, I sense another comic thread possibly coming on.) Yeah, it sounds like he'd work well with my Beast lady. My only complaint is that...well, he needs some pants other than the shorts. Let the kid keep some of his dignity, you know?


(I hope you do another! xD) And perhaps when they make models 471-475 they'll make some.. um... non-shameless models ^^;; After seeing all the heart equipment they gave him, by this point I'm just glad he's not in a miniskirt. xD;; Though, despite the shameless shota-riffic legs they're trying to show off, the rest of his costume matches small shorts perfectly, I think it would look a lil odd if they made the shorts longer or gave him pants.


Also, I'd love to see pics of the animal type PMs if anyone has them. I've only seen one so far, some hippo type of thing.

As far as I know... the only pic that's ever been shown of the animal types has been this (http://www.psu-wiki.info/upbbs/lib/printimage.php?id=00002980.jpeg) (the top right one). And judging by the background, it looks like it was someone hacking in the dressing room to go through each of the npc models... If they were so thorough in their hacking to find all of those, I think they would have found any alternate animal/butler/little boy PMs if there were any... I'm guessing there won't be any animals other than the hippo-thing, or any other butlers/boys until the next expansion.

And like I said before, I can't find anything about the hippo being released in Japan or it's model number, so I'm not sure what else to search for to find screenshots of it in battle, sorry ._.

beatrixkiddo
Nov 27, 2007, 02:52 PM
Yes, Paradi Cataract is the Heaven's Punishment SUV.

Gigorman
Nov 28, 2007, 09:26 AM
On 2007-11-27 09:37, tei wrote:
Here (http://www.pso-world.com/items/psu/16/2352/ex_device_gh470/)'s what the GH470 looks like...

.. So smooth.

Xtian913
Nov 28, 2007, 10:10 AM
On 2007-11-27 09:37, tei wrote:

does anyone have info on what kind of weapons or behaviors the new Pm series use in battle?

Here (http://www.pso-world.com/items/psu/16/2352/ex_device_gh470/)'s what the GH470 looks like...


Magical Wand (http://www.pso-world.com/items/psu/1/1605/magical_wand/) with technics Resta, and Giresta
(If GH470's the little boy, why does he use the female-only heart wand? o.o Oh well, it makes him even cuter/more shotacon.. xD;; )

Kohibumiteri (http://www.pso-world.com/items/psu/1/1608/kohibumiteri/) with bullet Masei-sou
(Now he gets the female-only heart bow.. xD)




Hmm, it appears that little bot is indeed fabulous...

Zoamel_Gustav
Nov 28, 2007, 06:02 PM
Am I reading this part of the GH-470's page correctly?

The part where it seems to say Lapia Fluge gives it's wearer Auto Recovery level 5?

Eyce_Theon
Nov 28, 2007, 06:57 PM
On 2007-11-27 08:54, batokage wrote:
whoa, wait...what? We can cross our PM over into another series depending on the Bst? so if I wanted to I could really raise a pure pm and switch it into the 44X series? (don't ask, I just like that series in particular)



Apparently we can't...I just tried to turn my 104 BST 432 PM into a 424, and it doesn't work.

Remedy
Nov 28, 2007, 07:07 PM
On 2007-11-28 15:57, Eyce_Theon wrote:
Apparently we can't...I just tried to turn my 104 BST 432 PM into a 424, and it doesn't work.*slams head into wall repeatedly*

That is ONLY for the PM Device EX devices, not the normal PM Devices that we have now.

tei
Nov 28, 2007, 07:53 PM
Am I reading this part of the GH-470's page correctly?

The part where it seems to say Lapia Fluge gives it's wearer Auto Recovery level 5?

After reading a lil about it in another topic, I think it heals allies and gives THEM the level 5 auto recovery. I'm not sure if it affects the wearer/user or not though. And I think the level 5 is because.. it's an SUV, it takes a long time to charge up.. it needed -something- to make it worthwhile considering, otherwise casts would just pass it up entirely for a star and sol atomizer and damage-related suv, right? ^^;;

tei
Nov 28, 2007, 07:58 PM
Edit.. Blah, stupid triple post, I only clicked submit once, how did that happen? -.-


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tei
Nov 28, 2007, 08:02 PM
Delete please...


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Guildenstern
Nov 28, 2007, 08:25 PM
So getting the lolishota PM. His JP text is hilariously adorable.

Xtian913
Nov 29, 2007, 09:45 AM
On 2007-11-28 17:25, Guildenstern wrote:
So getting the lolishota PM. His JP text is hilariously adorable.



What are some of the things he says?

tei
Nov 29, 2007, 10:03 AM
On 2007-11-29 06:45, Xtian913 wrote:

On 2007-11-28 17:25, Guildenstern wrote:
So getting the lolishota PM. His JP text is hilariously adorable.



What are some of the things he says?




I'd love to know too, could you post translations if you're able to, and find the time?

Gryffin
Nov 29, 2007, 10:32 AM
Need...shotabot... ><

Spacepest
Nov 29, 2007, 01:34 PM
On 2007-11-29 07:03, tei wrote:

On 2007-11-29 06:45, Xtian913 wrote:

On 2007-11-28 17:25, Guildenstern wrote:
So getting the lolishota PM. His JP text is hilariously adorable.



What are some of the things he says?




I'd love to know too, could you post translations if you're able to, and find the time?



I want to know too.

I'm also surprised at how many people want a shotabot as well. XD

Xtian913
Nov 29, 2007, 01:42 PM
On 2007-11-29 10:34, Spacepest wrote:
I want to know too.

I'm also surprised at how many people want a shotabot as well. XD



I'm pretty sure on 360 the desire won't be as great, and anyone who has it will find some lovely bulletins in there shops riddled with the words, "f@g" "freek" and "sik". http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Guildenstern
Nov 29, 2007, 01:43 PM
Guild's roommate posting this while she's at work (she seems to be logged in permanently on our computer and logging out doesn't work, so I'm stuck without an account x__X). We found this on the JP uploader:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/ccguildenstern/psu9767.jpg

I know only enough JP to make myself look like a n00b, but I'll bite her into making sense of it when she gets home if no one else has yet. o..Ov

KamiSori
Nov 29, 2007, 02:55 PM
ewww anyone else NOT planning on getting any of these new PMs. i was excited when i heard about them but not after ive seen the pics. even the hippo is dumb looking. 44X series FTW

Maxson
Nov 29, 2007, 04:21 PM
Japanese is very context-sensitive, so I've tried to point out particularly vague ones.

Left column:

"Even I might be able to win..." (probably vs. easy enemy)
"Please protect me!"
"What is that?!" (probably vs. hard enemy)
"Let's show them our teamwork."
"S, sorry, did I go too far?" (probably killed something; literally "do too much")
"Au! I can't bring out my strength~" (probably debuffed; literally "my power won't come out")
"Roger! Go, go!"

Middle column:
Note- these are all onomatopoeia (like saying "bang bang"), so the only way to be sure of these is to see them in context.

"I'm all dazed!" (probably confusion; "hiya hiya suru")
"I'm clapping~" (probably congratulatory; "pachi pachi shiteru~" can be read as "I'm clapping", which is a very cute way of saying "congratulations" or "well done". However, in this case it could also be a description of a status effect.)
"Become hot!" (maybe buffing or attacking? "atsu atsu ni nare")

Right column:

"My chest is... so hot..." (probably burning, maybe buffed)
"My fingers are... trembling..." (probably shock)

And yes, these are as suggestive as they sound... they're pretty much what you'd expect from an innocent shota-style character. If they were voiced, I'd expect a clear, high, slightly whiny voice.

tei
Nov 29, 2007, 06:22 PM
Ahh! xD Those sound adorable x3 Thanks so much for the translations! ^^


I'm also surprised at how many people want a shotabot as well. XD

The shotacon lovers are taking over! >:3

Eheh, err, I know I joke about the shota thing a lot, but I really just wanted a normal boy PM.. It's kinda disturbing even me how much they play up the effeminiateness and shotacon aspects of him.. ^^; I mean, I'll still get him. xD; But I hope they make a 47* series of PMs in the next expansion, with some that're.. more like boys and less like... Honey-chan. ^^;;

Gigorman
Nov 29, 2007, 06:32 PM
GH470 and your avatar have a resemblance, why?

Maxson
Nov 29, 2007, 06:35 PM
Funny, the very first character I thought of when reading those quotes was Honey-chan....

tei
Nov 29, 2007, 06:35 PM
GH470 and your avatar have a resemblance, why?

It's of him, specifically the wallpaper at the bottom right of this PSU Anniversary page (http://phantasystaruniverse.jp/event/1st/wallpaper.html). :3

Guildenstern
Nov 29, 2007, 07:23 PM
*resists urge to name PM 'Honey-senpai'*

tei
Nov 29, 2007, 09:59 PM
On 2007-11-29 16:23, Guildenstern wrote:
*resists urge to name PM 'Honey-senpai'*



Heheh, that would be so awesome. x3