New PA's

[Nano-bot]

Just been watching the videos of the new PA's, very cool. was just wondering how many PA's they cost (if any?) Really loving the new Dagger PA!

Sorry if this has been asked before

Nano~~

[AxelgearVII]

VIIF PA's
http://pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=155536&forum=22&103

[Rizen]

Someone shoot me if that name is ever caught on and used.

But yeah, just refer to that thread for information. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Pengfishh]

The only person I've seen using that name is Axel himself. It won't catch,

[Gryffin]

They DO need an alternate name though..

Ultimate still doesn't work for me, being as most PA's are situational, although some majarra seem to be able to be used anytime.


I personally, along with several others, prefer calling them Frag PA's.. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif


Oh, and yeah, the new ones are basically rockin'..... Can't wait to see some new Single Dagger stuff though.

[Ffuzzy-Logik]

On 2007-12-03 11:49, Pengfishh wrote:
The only person I've seen using that name is Axel himself. It won't catch,

They're VIIF PAs. All the cool kids are doing it.

[Zorafim]

Are the twin daggers any good? The atp modifier doesn't seem great, and the number of hits seems rather small for a twin dagger skill.

[Tsundere]

On 2007-12-03 11:03, AxelgearVII wrote:
VIIF PA's
http://pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=155536&forum=22&103



So I take it you're gonna keep doing that until some Sega employee makes a mistake and calls them that on accident?

[Zael]

On 2007-12-03 12:07, Ffuzzy-Logik wrote:

On 2007-12-03 11:49, Pengfishh wrote:
The only person I've seen using that name is Axel himself. It won't catch,

They're VIIF PAs. All the cool kids are doing it.


I concur. VIIF PAs FTW.

[Pengfishh]

On 2007-12-03 12:15, Zorafim wrote:
Are the twin daggers any good? The atp modifier doesn't seem great, and the number of hits seems rather small for a twin dagger skill.



It looks awesome, and most folks around here would agree to style over substance.

[Stixx]

Viif >.> Doesn't roll of the tongue very well...neither does "seven eff" <.<

I just call them "new".

[Para]

I'll just call them... AOI PAs.

[Zorafim]

On 2007-12-03 12:51, Pengfishh wrote:
It looks awesome, and most folks around here would agree to style over substance.



That works for everything except PAs. One PA can be drastically more effective than another in a given circumstance, and often some are just inferior to others to a large degree. Knowing which ones to use when is more effective than the quality of your equipment or your race.

[beatrixkiddo]

You act like spamming Tornado Dance on every enemy makes you bad at the game. I PAY FOR THIS GAME SO I CAN PLAY HOWEVER I WANT ZORAFIM http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

AND I USE NEUTRAL CREA DOUBLES BECAUSE THEY LOOK MORE STYLISH

[pikachief]

omg theres new PAs u get with PA frags!

new ultimate PAs?

yea but they cant be called that!

y not?

cuz they're from AOI!

LOL WHO CARES!? they're PAs ultimate PAs or Frag PAs!!!

axel stop being a dork and leave them alone

[AxelgearVII]

On 2007-12-03 13:43, pikachief wrote:
omg theres new PAs u get with PA frags!

new ultimate PAs?

yea but they cant be called that!

y not?

cuz they're from AOI!

LOL WHO CARES!? they're PAs ultimate PAs or Frag PAs!!!

axel stop being a dork and leave them alone



Does their name upset people that much? Don't call them anything then. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_confused.gif

[AxelgearVII]

crea doubles


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[Pengfishh]

On 2007-12-03 13:28, Zorafim wrote:

That works for everything except PAs. One PA can be drastically more effective than another in a given circumstance, and often some are just inferior to others to a large degree. Knowing which ones to use when is more effective than the quality of your equipment or your race.



Lies.

[Aviendha]

On 2007-12-03 12:15, Zorafim wrote:
Are the twin daggers any good? The atp modifier doesn't seem great, and the number of hits seems rather small for a twin dagger skill.


The atp mods are pretty solid, actually. At lvl 30, it has 180% mod 3x3, 215% mod 3x1, 360% mod 4x2, while Moubu lvl 30 has 165% mod 2x4, 185% mod 2x3, and 200% mod 3x3. Assuming you hit max targets, you will do about 20% more total damage per use of Renga vs. Moubu as a Caseal FF (That's what you are, right?) lvl 120 Class lvl 15. Moubu seems to execute slightly faster, and it's unlikely 3-4 monsters will be that close together for Renga, Renga seems to have a more forgiving hitbox than Moubu anyway. Renga will definitely be the best twin dagger PA for bosses, and probably for certain types of monsters. Assuming you don't get that extra monster on the last hit for either one (that last target doesn't usually just jump in for me), Renga still does 20% more total damage. Moubu wins on 2 targets, Renga wins on 3.

[Zorafim]

I'm convinced!

[Mystil]

FFS. VIIF PA's, ULT PAs, PSOW PAs, ZORA PAs, Wizard of OZ PA's, gimme a break. The only REAL DEAL "final" PA of it's category as far as I'm concerned is Anga Jabroga. The others either suck bad to the store bought ones, or the next unreleased ones will be better.

[Nyreal]

Heh. I'll probably pick up the Twin Dagger, Twin Claw, and Whip PAs. The rest seem to be a bit meh.

[Chaosgyro]

I'm hoping the sword PA picks up some of Gravity Break's Just Attack slack. That whole weapon category got hit hard with its slow JAs...

[Hyper_Rappy]

my problem is i swich classes so frequently i never stick with 1 weapon for long, so i never know what to get. but that new twin dagger one looks awsome! same with the twin sword one.

but i wonder how much PP each one costs?

[gryphonvii]

I don't really mind low atp mods because I go for whatever looks flashy, I can still do decent damage but the plus is looking good while smacking things around

[Weak]

A lot of them look wildly impractical. I'm going to have to see how much damage they do in Network mode before passing judgment, though. Still, just by looks.. They're kind of cool, but just look really exaggerated.

[Jife_Jifremok]

I'm wondering why we can't just call them frag PAs or something...


On 2007-12-03 17:34, Chaosgyro wrote:
I'm hoping the sword PA picks up some of Gravity Break's Just Attack slack. That whole weapon category got hit hard with its slow JAs...



Really? The slow JAs is part of the reason I like swords now. The slowness helps give it a "heavier" feel, like these swords are actually two-handed for a reason. (Unlike axes where much of Anga Redda is done with only one hand!)



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[Talynn]

I have no idea whats wrong with the term VIIF. Someone please tell me the freaking problem with that. and to me it sounds like "Vif" if said aloud. like adding a long V sound to if, for those who want exact pronunciation.