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gurmlk
Dec 3, 2007, 11:23 PM
I heard mention about a boss in the forums named Motherbrain, and I was just wondering if anybody knows whether or not it's supposed to be similar to Motherbrain from Phantasy Star 2 either by appearence and/or backround story.

Ffuzzy-Logik
Dec 3, 2007, 11:32 PM
Yeah, kind of. It's allegedly the main computer for the AMF, but Howzer and friends have infected it with the SEED virus, so it's gone nuts.

The actual battle is a reskin of Dulk form 1.



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gurmlk
Dec 3, 2007, 11:34 PM
Thanks for your reply.

darthplagis
Dec 3, 2007, 11:37 PM
sadly i think it is alike in name alone (tho the plot so far could indicate a PS2 style storyline), mother (not brain but still super intelligent AI, that controls all) was also in PSO for those who had plus and/or played the online sue and kireek story.

EspioKaos
Dec 3, 2007, 11:44 PM
The mission description for Electronic Brain says that Motherbrain is responsible for the CASTs who have gone out-of-control. (Though the English description doesn't specify directly, the Japanese description clarifies that she exhibits control only over AMF-employed CASTs.) Of course, as Ffuzzy said, Howzer and Helga are responsible for her being in her current state. Now, I (unfortunately) haven't played much of Phantasy Star II, so if there are any connections, I'll have to let someone else piece them together.

gurmlk
Dec 3, 2007, 11:49 PM
Thanks for your replies.

Alisha
Dec 4, 2007, 12:21 AM
to me mother brain looks like the profound darkness fused on top of dulk falkis. the music in the battle rocks too. it sounds like it could be a remixed version of old ps music. i cant no for sure but it has that 16 bit techno feel.

gurmlk
Dec 4, 2007, 01:26 AM
Thanks for the reply, and I'll do my best to identify the boss music and see if it is from an older game.

ErtaiClou
Dec 4, 2007, 01:27 AM
Who's Helga, that blue-haired chick that has Lou's rival written all over her?

pikachief
Dec 4, 2007, 01:30 AM
that is a blue-haired chick that has Lou's rival written all over her.

KyEmo
Dec 4, 2007, 01:42 AM
I suppose you don't get her card? >.>

CelestialBlade
Dec 4, 2007, 07:01 AM
The boss theme is definitely a remix of the Phantasy Star 2 version. You only hear this for a bit, but the homage is clearly there. Made me smile.

gurmlk
Dec 4, 2007, 09:36 AM
Well if the music is a remix from Phantasy Star 2 and with what the boss is, I can certainly assume that at the very least Sega had the original Motherbrain in mind when creating this boss and that it was probably created to be nostalgic for those who have played the game.

Reipard
Dec 4, 2007, 09:50 AM
The music certainly is a remix of Death Palace from Phantasy Star 2. IMO, it's what her battle music should have been in the Sega Ages remake http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif.

CelestialBlade
Dec 4, 2007, 09:54 AM
On 2007-12-04 06:36, gurmlk wrote:
Well if the music is a remix from Phantasy Star 2 and with what the boss is, I can certainly assume that at the very least Sega had the original Motherbrain in mind when creating this boss and that it was probably created to be nostalgic for those who have played the game.

Gonna have to cut this for PS2 spoilers.

PSU's Mother Brain seems to be based on the same concept. While PS2's was responsible for all control systems in Algol, PSU's is responsible for control over the AMF. There are some visual similaries, but PSU's Mother Brain appears much less ethereal than PS2's. In PS2 you feel like you're fighting a program, in PSU it is a physical robotic system.

It's very clear Sega had PS2 in mind, and if you notice, Sega's been referencing the PS series all along. In PSU Ep. 1 you have a clearly defined villian trying to terrorize everything, much like Alis fighting the tyranny of Lassic/Lashiec. In PSU Ep. 2, tragedy strikes when the Guardian's Colony crashes to Parum and the entire episode ends on a somber note, similar to Gaira destroying Palma in PS2, and ending with a very bleak struggle against hundreds of thousands of Earthlings. And now in the new PSU Ep. 3, we have a storyline where your decisions influence the outcome, like the concept of PS3. As you can see, Sega's pretty big on nostalgia XD

-Ryuki-
Dec 4, 2007, 09:55 AM
Spoilers suck D:

Reipard
Dec 4, 2007, 09:56 AM
What's to be spoiled? There's no plot attached to it right now. It's a free mission o_o.

Striker112
Dec 4, 2007, 10:13 AM
Actually it’s a very interesting boss battle, u find futuristic battle suits that have a large missile/charged laser beam. Then you have to shoot the glass protecting it and shoot its eye with the laser, all this while staying above acid and dodging missiles.

The weird thing is, you can turn into a ball and lay mines, weird.

*cough* Metroid http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

darkante
Dec 4, 2007, 10:28 AM
Watch out for the flying leeches!

If you have companion with you that dont have ice shots on their guns.
Then you are screwed.

*Coughes* Teh Metroid enemy

Nuclearranger
Dec 4, 2007, 10:54 AM
This is Phantasy Star not Metroid

Just thought Id clear that up n.n

darkante
Dec 4, 2007, 11:51 AM
On 2007-12-04 07:54, NuclearRanger wrote:
This is Phantasy Star not Metroid

Just thought Id clear that up n.n


Duh? >.<

Jokes are allowed you know? XP

EspioKaos
Dec 4, 2007, 01:00 PM
AMF Central Command.

RedMussel
Dec 4, 2007, 01:00 PM
Another question, where will this mission be located when it is released?

RedMussel
Dec 4, 2007, 01:06 PM
On 2007-12-04 10:00, EspioKaos wrote:
AMF Central Command.

I new it, some guy said at the other end of the waterfall, then i asked where he get his information and he said he got it from here.

HFlowen
Dec 4, 2007, 01:08 PM
But, all of Algo will be thrown into chaos without the guidance of Mother Brain!

Kylie
Dec 4, 2007, 01:29 PM
Does anyone have any pictures of MB (PSU)? I'm curious to what she looks like.

Kylie
Dec 4, 2007, 01:48 PM
Thanks much, Thanubis, that looks pretty cool (even though it's a DF v1 reskin). http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

VertigoZero
Dec 18, 2007, 02:53 AM
Any rumors as to when its going to be put on us 360 online?

DesertGunner
Dec 18, 2007, 05:54 AM
LOL! I watched that recent comic episode over at psu.com. Helga's a lezbo!!!

P.S. Anyone got hentai of mother brain and helga? LOL

pikachief
Dec 18, 2007, 06:22 AM
On 2007-12-17 23:53, VertigoZero wrote:
Any rumors as to when its going to be put on us 360 online?



"rumors" or as i call them update speculation.

as in next update is lvl cap 120, new PAs, new clothes, and new story mission.

then after that should be the juice bar trade mission and then the mother brain mission.

so wait a month http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Rayokarna
Dec 18, 2007, 07:21 AM
On 2007-12-18 03:22, pikachief wrote:

On 2007-12-17 23:53, VertigoZero wrote:
Any rumors as to when its going to be put on us 360 online?



"rumors" or as i call them update speculation.

as in next update is lvl cap 120, new PAs, new clothes, and new story mission.

then after that should be the juice bar trade mission and then the mother brain mission.

so wait a month http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif



If my calculations are correct. For when we have the Motherbrain Free Mission, the EU release date for AOI is the day before.

o_O god. I have alot to do...

Sylpheed
Dec 18, 2007, 08:15 AM
On 2007-12-18 03:22, pikachief wrote:

On 2007-12-17 23:53, VertigoZero wrote:
Any rumors as to when its going to be put on us 360 online?



"rumors" or as i call them update speculation.

as in next update is lvl cap 120, new PAs, new clothes, and new story mission.

then after that should be the juice bar trade mission and then the mother brain mission.

so wait a month http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif



Awesome! lvl 120 cap, now i can kill monsters even faster without a single challenge. SEGA sure know how to make video games -.-

Saner
Dec 18, 2007, 10:51 AM
just make a new character. I'm having fun trying out new classes at lower levels. like GunTechter. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

amtalx
Dec 18, 2007, 11:00 AM
Please, for the love of everything holy, tell me that MB drops a gunner rare. Please...anything.

Ryoki
Dec 18, 2007, 11:37 AM
After doing some research on it, I noticed that the two games PS 2 and Metroid were released in such a close time period that neither copied the other. The fact that they both have a boss named "Mother Brain" is strangely complete coincidence.

Saner
Dec 18, 2007, 12:05 PM
that reminds me of the time Felicia and Cham Cham's first game were released about the same time
(Darkstalkers and Samurai Shodown 2) ^_^

pikachief
Dec 18, 2007, 12:08 PM
On 2007-12-18 08:00, amtalx wrote:
Please, for the love of everything holy, tell me that MB drops a gunner rare. Please...anything.



twin handguns http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

dark falz drops the xbow and bow though http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

oh wait... your tlaking about FORTEgunner? i thought sega deleted those? jk http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

my main is a FG i feel your pain >.>

Ryoki
Dec 18, 2007, 12:21 PM
On 2007-12-18 09:08, pikachief wrote:

On 2007-12-18 08:00, amtalx wrote:
Please, for the love of everything holy, tell me that MB drops a gunner rare. Please...anything.



twin handguns http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

dark falz drops the xbow and bow though http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

oh wait... your tlaking about FORTEgunner? i thought sega deleted those? jk http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

my main is a FG i feel your pain >.>


GIVE FG S TWIN HANDGUNS DAMNIT! Why can they hold one S rank handguns, but for some reason, HOLDING TWO is unthinkable?!?!

GuardianElite
Dec 18, 2007, 12:31 PM
On 2007-12-18 02:54, DesertGunner wrote:
LOL! I watched that recent comic episode over at psu.com. Helga's a lezbo!!!

P.S. Anyone got hentai of mother brain and helga? LOL



I agree with you helga is hot lol

amtalx
Dec 18, 2007, 12:39 PM
On 2007-12-18 09:08, pikachief wrote:

On 2007-12-18 08:00, amtalx wrote:
Please, for the love of everything holy, tell me that MB drops a gunner rare. Please...anything.



twin handguns http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

dark falz drops the xbow and bow though http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

oh wait... your tlaking about FORTEgunner? i thought sega deleted those? jk http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

my main is a FG i feel your pain >.>



It's nice to see gunners haven't been completely left behind. If I get one, I can make the switch to GT pretty easily...but yea, fGs are all but forgotten by ST.

*sigh*
*goes back to Desert Goliath*

Silve
Dec 18, 2007, 03:10 PM
Does the boss at least fight differently than dulk falkis form 1 in any way? Does she transform if you fight her on S rank difficulty?

Minamo
Dec 18, 2007, 03:26 PM
So sad, no transform.

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Frequently a GRM 9 stars grenade will be dropped in S (WT Fun...)





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VertigoZero
Dec 19, 2007, 05:39 PM
I hope that post on the main page is right about the Electric Brain mission. Maybe they will fix the achivements for Aoi so they actually count.

pikachief
Dec 19, 2007, 05:49 PM
On 2007-12-18 12:26, Minamo wrote:
So sad, no transform.

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Frequently a GRM 9 stars grenade will be dropped in S (WT Fun...)





<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Minamo on 2007-12-18 12:27 ]</font>


i got 3 of those in 1 run of electric beasts i dont want anymore! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif