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Helly
Dec 5, 2007, 01:00 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=213897

Phantasy Star Portable (PSP/Sega/2008)
* They're self-impressed with it abbreviating to PSP.
* Based on PSU and its expansion, with added missions and story.
* Multi-mode, with up to 4 player coop.
* Development by Alpha System.

Just one more reason for me to get a PSP... but its still so expensive (and this is coming from someone who bought a PS3!).... >_<;

Rainu
Dec 5, 2007, 01:03 AM
Huh, interesting. Still know absolutely nothing about this, myself.

Zorafim
Dec 5, 2007, 01:04 AM
Let me get this strait. They made PSP for the PSP?

darkante
Dec 5, 2007, 01:06 AM
Lol at shortname

Rainu
Dec 5, 2007, 01:06 AM
On 2007-12-04 22:04, Zorafim wrote:
Let me get this strait. They made PSP for the PSP?


Dear god. Coincidence?

Helly
Dec 5, 2007, 01:07 AM
On 2007-12-04 22:04, Zorafim wrote:
Let me get this strait. They made PSP for the PSP?


Ya but its prolly just a working title for now. No doubt it'll end up being "PSU:some ungodly subtitle" hehe!

Zorafim
Dec 5, 2007, 01:16 AM
By the way, I'm going to have to save that topic in case another PSO vs PSU topic emerges.

HFlowen
Dec 5, 2007, 01:16 AM
They've hinted at a Phantasy star game for the PSP for a while now, wonder what this one is gonna be about.

Freshellent
Dec 5, 2007, 01:16 AM
Hmm,kinda wish I didn't sell my PSP now. Then again,it's early,no screens yet etc etc. Eitherway,I'm curious to play it. Might have to convince the roomate to pick it up.

Ash1ey
Dec 5, 2007, 01:17 AM
This is just awesome, even if its a little early http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

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omegapirate2k
Dec 5, 2007, 01:21 AM
On 2007-12-04 22:07, Helly wrote:

On 2007-12-04 22:04, Zorafim wrote:
Let me get this strait. They made PSP for the PSP?


Ya but its prolly just a working title for now. No doubt it'll end up being "PSU:some ungodly subtitle" hehe!



It'll be something like "Phantasy Star Planet" or "Phantasy Star System"

COUNT ON IT

HFlowen
Dec 5, 2007, 01:24 AM
If it has special minigames to get stuff for your PSU: AotI account via WiFi, count me in.



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beatrixkiddo
Dec 5, 2007, 01:26 AM
[spoiler-box]http://up2.viploader.net/pic/src/viploader534469.jpg[/spoiler-box]

HFlowen
Dec 5, 2007, 01:27 AM
Ugh, someone call Espio.

Alisha
Dec 5, 2007, 01:33 AM
this is massive fail. im starting to think sony is forcing companies to make games for either psp or ps3.

omegapirate2k
Dec 5, 2007, 01:33 AM
If this version runs better than PSU somebody dies.

mattdude
Dec 5, 2007, 01:34 AM
I wish they would make pso for the psp, or the ds, or a remake of pso on the wii..it would be nice

Ash1ey
Dec 5, 2007, 01:37 AM
Wow, thanks for the scan of that http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Chuck_Norris
Dec 5, 2007, 01:39 AM
On 2007-12-04 22:21, omegapirate2k wrote:

On 2007-12-04 22:07, Helly wrote:

On 2007-12-04 22:04, Zorafim wrote:
Let me get this strait. They made PSP for the PSP?


Ya but its prolly just a working title for now. No doubt it'll end up being "PSU:some ungodly subtitle" hehe!



It'll be something like "Phantasy Star Planet" or "Phantasy Star System"

COUNT ON IT



Nah more like "Super Phantasy Star Revenge Reloaded The Next Generation Alpha".

omegapirate2k
Dec 5, 2007, 01:40 AM
On 2007-12-04 22:39, Chuck_Norris wrote:

On 2007-12-04 22:21, omegapirate2k wrote:

On 2007-12-04 22:07, Helly wrote:

On 2007-12-04 22:04, Zorafim wrote:
Let me get this strait. They made PSP for the PSP?


Ya but its prolly just a working title for now. No doubt it'll end up being "PSU:some ungodly subtitle" hehe!



It'll be something like "Phantasy Star Planet" or "Phantasy Star System"

COUNT ON IT



Nah more like "Super Phantasy Star Revenge Reloaded The Next Generation Alpha".



I thought this was a phantasy star game, not a street fighter game.

EspioKaos
Dec 5, 2007, 01:54 AM
I am shock. O:

I've only got time for a quick synopsis. Got to be up for work in less than five hours, so... yeah.

All new story mode. Create your own character and you'll partner up with all-new CAST-chicky with the rabbit ears, otherwise known as Vivienne. The text is difficult to read from the photo, but it looks like Helga is behind various terrorist attacks across Gurhal. You'll be going after her to find out what she's up to.

DraginHikari
Dec 5, 2007, 01:55 AM
*Sighs* Go figure... PSP only XD

Jife_Jifremok
Dec 5, 2007, 02:03 AM
I can already see the MHF vs PSP debates. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

If this has no connectivity with my PC/PS2 AoI characters, count me out.

pikachief
Dec 5, 2007, 02:05 AM
i have 1 question.

is the multi-player PSP to PSP or is it online? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

kyori
Dec 5, 2007, 02:07 AM
It'll probably run smoother than the PS2. Alfa Systems is behind the development and they've more than proven themselves pretty good on most hardware. (Shikigami no Shiro series, Tales of the World series, and Tales of Innocence)

Other notes:

It's 4 player ADHOC.
Vivianne will be voiced by Megumi Toyoguchi
Helga will be voiced by Rie Tanaka?! (Who also voices Karen)

pikachief
Dec 5, 2007, 02:09 AM
On 2007-12-04 23:07, kyori wrote:
It'll probably run smoother than the PS2. Alfa Systems is behind the development and they've more than proven themselves pretty good on most hardware. (Shikigami no Shiro series, Tales of the World series, and Tales of Innocence)

Other notes:

It's 4 player ADHOC.
Vivianne will be voiced by Megumi Toyoguchi
Helga will be voiced by Rie Tanaka?! (Who also voices Karen)



lol ADHOC is.... PSP to PSP?

kyori
Dec 5, 2007, 02:10 AM
Local. Not online.

Miyoko
Dec 5, 2007, 02:15 AM
... They're putting it on PSP?

... You know, I've said "Fuck you, Sega" a lot in the past few weeks, but now, I mean it more than ever.

Fuck you, Sega.

PSP. What a waste :l

Sio
Dec 5, 2007, 02:19 AM
lmao Miyoko, I am so with you on that!

kyori
Dec 5, 2007, 02:21 AM
and it should be on the DS?

ChronoTrigga
Dec 5, 2007, 02:45 AM
Yes, it should. The touch screen would make great for switching weapons and using items at your whim. The only thing they'd need to do is make it NON-friendcode. Friendcodes are beat.

BaconZero
Dec 5, 2007, 02:47 AM
On 2007-12-04 23:05, pikachief wrote:
i have 1 question.

is the multi-player PSP to PSP or is it online? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif


Probably Ad-Hoc (aka: PSP to PSP), since Sega has failed us many times. Plus, why would you want to play online with people when you know there is going to be no headset support what so ever, CUZ THIS IS SEGA WERE TALKING ABOUT!? lol.

But yeah, it might give my best friend a actual reason to play PSU with me on the same system for once. (me:PC and him:360)



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Yusaku_Kudou
Dec 5, 2007, 02:51 AM
Yeah, I'd rather have PSO instead... now the story is going to be freaking split up between platforms... Unless we can transfer our characters from ALL versions of PSU (PC, PS2, and 360) via USB, then somebody's gonna get it. I'm not leveling up yet another lv1 character.

PrinceBrightstar
Dec 5, 2007, 02:57 AM
...I'll pick up a tv out cable.

Haven't even had this thing 2 weeks and now I already need it for this.

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EtherForce
Dec 5, 2007, 03:04 AM
Hmm, interesting.

_Vyser_
Dec 5, 2007, 03:19 AM
There's always x-link kai for those who want to play online, no matter what the box says

FnalKnight
Dec 5, 2007, 04:05 AM
Great now I gotta get a PSP. But it's Sega and we all know we'll never get it, look at the PS2 remakes of the original Phantasy Star Series.

RayJai
Dec 5, 2007, 04:05 AM
I can't wait to get this!
My friends PC/PS2 sucks at playing PSU.
but with PSP we can finally play together.
time to put down Monster Hunter for this! lol
Monster Hunter's learning curve to too big for my friends, buy PSU would be easy to pick up.
and as Vyser said, with Xlink Kai u can play online over wifi for free! no subscriptions!
Monster is adhoc only but people can still play it online with Xlink kai

Jife_Jifremok
Dec 5, 2007, 04:13 AM
On 2007-12-04 23:45, Handsock wrote:
Yes, it should. The touch screen would make great for switching weapons and using items at your whim. The only thing they'd need to do is make it NON-friendcode. Friendcodes are beat.



And use what for movement, The D-pad? This aint Resitent Evil, this aint Armored Core, this aint King's Field, and this sure as hell aint the PS1 era when digital controls were excusable in 3D games.

Miyoko
Dec 5, 2007, 04:17 AM
On 2007-12-05 01:13, Jife_Jifremok wrote:

And use what for movement, The D-pad? This aint Resitent Evil, this aint Armored Core, this aint King's Field, and this sure as hell aint the PS1 era when digital controls were excusable in 3D games.



Someone hasn't played Super Mario 64 DS! >.>/

Syl
Dec 5, 2007, 04:19 AM
On 2007-12-05 01:17, Miyoko wrote:

On 2007-12-05 01:13, Jife_Jifremok wrote:

And use what for movement, The D-pad? This aint Resitent Evil, this aint Armored Core, this aint King's Field, and this sure as hell aint the PS1 era when digital controls were excusable in 3D games.



Someone hasn't played Super Mario 64 DS! >.>/



lol, the same thought came to my mind <.<

Saphion
Dec 5, 2007, 04:20 AM
Ugh, wrong console and wrong game to base it on.

And so SEGA's post-Dreamcast downward spiral continues.

ljkkjlcm9
Dec 5, 2007, 04:20 AM
On 2007-12-05 01:17, Miyoko wrote:

On 2007-12-05 01:13, Jife_Jifremok wrote:

And use what for movement, The D-pad? This aint Resitent Evil, this aint Armored Core, this aint King's Field, and this sure as hell aint the PS1 era when digital controls were excusable in 3D games.



Someone hasn't played Super Mario 64 DS! >.>/


or using a keyboard with w-a-s-d to move, which is what I do on my laptop

and honestly, I just find this stupid, very very stupid.

THE JACKEL



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Sazan
Dec 5, 2007, 05:24 AM
Nice move Sega. This should sell better than all versions of PSU out now. PSP ftw!



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RemiusTA
Dec 5, 2007, 05:28 AM
On 2007-12-04 22:33, omegapirate2k wrote:
If this version runs better than PSU somebody dies.



Fuck yes, my thoughts exactly.

If PSU melts my fucking PS2, then it better asplode PSPs.



Edit: and this should be a wakeup call to all of you sad desperate souls who still believe sega is going to give you a new version of PSO to waste your life on

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Konstanse_Xx
Dec 5, 2007, 06:11 AM
On 2007-12-05 02:28, RemiusTA wrote:

On 2007-12-04 22:33, omegapirate2k wrote:
If this version runs better than PSU somebody dies.



Fuck yes, my thoughts exactly.

If PSU melts my fucking PS2, then it better asplode PSPs.


I lol'd at how true this is ._.

Saphion
Dec 5, 2007, 06:21 AM
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DesertGunner
Dec 5, 2007, 06:23 AM
Funny how I can't tell the difference between the graphics of this game and PSU. Sometimes I wish a terrorist would fly a plane right into Sega HQ...

Saphion
Dec 5, 2007, 06:24 AM
On 2007-12-05 02:28, RemiusTA wrote:
and this should be a wakeup call to all of you sad desperate souls who still believe sega is going to give you a new version of PSO to waste your life on

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Even so, that's no excuse to act like a dick. Or maybe being rude and arrogant comes naturally to you?

A2K
Dec 5, 2007, 06:32 AM
Putting it on PlayStation Portable really isn't as bad of a choice as one might think, actually. The best selling title on the platform worldwide, is, after all, another hack-and-slash action/adventure RPG title (a Monster Hunter game). The audience is clearly there (although I'm guessing the bulk of that aforementioned game's sales are from Japan).

That isn't to say there shouldn't be a DS version, of course. Quite the contrary: the more the merrier, I say. Unfortunately, what I say matters relatively little in this matter.

Kairi_Li
Dec 5, 2007, 06:33 AM
I for one am excited about this game. My fiance and I would enjoy ADHOCing together.

That is, assuming it actually comes out in the US.

*coughKingdomHearts2FinalMixBScough*

Dragwind
Dec 5, 2007, 06:39 AM
Gah, now I need to buy myself a PSP.

-Ryuki-
Dec 5, 2007, 06:39 AM
Final Mix in the US? That's near blasphemy.

Darkly
Dec 5, 2007, 07:05 AM
can't wait until people find out it's completly lag free on psp.

expect many /wrist lol.

Googlebonker
Dec 5, 2007, 07:10 AM
PSP? Hasn't DS clearly outsold PSP worldwide? Besides that, why make it for a platform the original PSU wasn't released on?

Although, we are talking about a company that didn't take the time to make a server structure that could integrate a world-wide audience playing any version of the game when it's already been done before (Final Fantasy XI). Then there was their handling of Phantasy Star Online (Gamecube).

I don't have and don't plan to buy a PSP at the moment to get a little more PSU's story. Maybe I can ask someone to tell me a summary of it later.

zemog
Dec 5, 2007, 07:33 AM
They're shooting themselves in the foot by making it ad-hock... it would be EPIC if it was online.

Poor Sega... how far they've fallen...

amtalx
Dec 5, 2007, 07:45 AM
Cool idea, but...level all those bullets again? NO THANKS.

Reipard
Dec 5, 2007, 07:47 AM
So much anger http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif.

I am definitely buying this.

Fox_Makenshi
Dec 5, 2007, 07:49 AM
I, myself, am looking forward to it. Seeing as I already have a PSP and an Xlink Kai setup that works I'm gonna get this after I read the reviews. Even if they suck I'll probably get it at least once since I'm a sucker for PSU games XD

As much as I loved PSO I wouldn't want them to release it again. By todays standards it would get horrible reviews and not as many people would buy it. Time to see if SEGA improves on the inner workings of PSU or if it's the same or worse.

There's no need to complain about ad-hoc seriously. All you need to go online is WiFi Max (or any other wireless connection) and Xlink Kai. At that point you can play online with anyone so it will be epic anyway lol.

Love,
Fox Makenshi

Kairi_Li
Dec 5, 2007, 07:52 AM
I think we establish that most JP companies focus more on their local audience. The PSP isn't too far behind from the DS, though the DS still has the advantage that even non hardcore gamers have one. Still, the PSP sold alot in Japan that a PSP PSU game isn't a bad business move at all. I mean FF Crisis Core alone probably shot the PSP sales up, and the PSP is the closest thing comparable graphically to the PS2.

_K1_
Dec 5, 2007, 08:01 AM
On 2007-12-05 03:33, Kairi_Li wrote:
That is, assuming it actually comes out in the US.

PSP games are region-free, so no matter where you live, you can play the JP version.

I hope they don't alter the gameplay too much. PSP^2 will be the only version of PSU with multiplayer not on Sega's servers, which is something I think everyone wanted.

Yusaku_Kudou
Dec 5, 2007, 08:17 AM
On 2007-12-05 04:10, Googlebonker wrote:
[...]We are talking about a company that didn't take the time to make a server structure that could integrate a world-wide audience playing any version of the game when it's already been done before (Final Fantasy XI).

Actually, PSU on the 360 is a world-wide server and so was PSO Dreamcast.

Kairi_Li
Dec 5, 2007, 08:21 AM
On 2007-12-05 05:01, _K1_ wrote:

On 2007-12-05 03:33, Kairi_Li wrote:
That is, assuming it actually comes out in the US.

PSP games are region-free, so no matter where you live, you can play the JP version.

Its not the region thing we were worried (which we weren't, we know we can easily import games cause it works on every system.), its the language problem. I can get through most of the gameplay thanks to exposure to import JP games and knowing Chinese (so I can read some Kanji), but my fiance can't.


On 2007-12-05 05:17, Yusaku_Kudou wrote:

On 2007-12-05 04:10, Googlebonker wrote:
[...]We are talking about a company that didn't take the time to make a server structure that could integrate a world-wide audience playing any version of the game when it's already been done before (Final Fantasy XI).

Actually, PSU on the 360 is a world-wide server and so was PSO Dreamcast.



He's referring to the fact that PC/PS2 can't play with the 360 crowd and vice versa, whereas FF11 folk can, because they DON'T use the Xbox LIVE system for FF11. Also, FF11 people can play with anyone in the world, including Japanese, Hong Kong, China, anyone from anywhere can join up no matter what language version of the game they got.

In PSU, the JPs stick with JPs if they want a game with actual Japanese language, same thing with the US except the language is English.

So no, PSU doesn't have a server dedicate to a WORLD WIDE audience. It has 3 servers dedicated to a specific crowd. Either language, console, or both.

Example, a buddy of mine wants to play FF11 with me, and if I already have an account on the PC, or PS2, and my copy happens to be the Japanese one, no biggie. He wants the 360 version? No worries. We can still play together. (Barring the stupid world pass system, but that's a seperate issue. And no, I don't really have an FF11 account.)

In the current sitch? He must get either the PS2 or PC version, the US/Europe AoI game, to play with me.

See the difference now?


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Alisha
Dec 5, 2007, 08:31 AM
i think this is a situation where cultures colide. i heard lots of kids meet up to play monster hunter via ad hoc at variious locations. wich is something that just doesnt happen in the states. im also willing to bet that the story will be a gaiden.

Reipard
Dec 5, 2007, 08:34 AM
Ad-Hoc isn't completely damnable in the US. If you have Custom Firmware on your PSP then there's a program called X-Link Kai that lets you play Ad-Hoc stuff online with people who are not next to you.



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Kairi_Li
Dec 5, 2007, 08:37 AM
That's cause US is big, where as Japan, especially Tokyo where the gamers congregate, has alot of gamers huddle in a much smaller city. Not to mention a train system that pretty much gets everyone any hot spots for meet ups. And they have a district dedicated to gaming, anime and Otaku culture, where you can easily find gamers to play with. Their arcades are still going hot while the US arcades are dying or dead.

Simply put, its much harder for US gamers to get around and easily meet up at some cafe to ADHOC. If your public transportation sucks then it will involve car trips and that means money and time... Online gaming like WOW and PSU is much more convient and easier on people's wallets. Its a cultural and a geographical issue.


On 2007-12-05 05:34, Reipard wrote:
Ad-Hoc isn't completely damnable in the US. If you have Custom Firmware on your PSP then there's a program called X-Link Kai that lets you play Ad-Hoc stuff online with people who are not next to you.

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Now that IS neat, but it further shows that this game is cater more to the JPs than US, when in order for us to play together more conviently, we have to resort to less than legal methods...


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Turbobrain
Dec 5, 2007, 08:46 AM
Just some random thoughts.... sorry if I sound to crap, I've not slept for a while(darn 3 hours breaks dont cut it).

1: I wonder if we'll ever even get it in NA/EU...

2: Well, if its got AdHoc then paryting on line is no problem(using tunnel software:)).

3: No way will it make it to DS. The PSP processing power is ALMOST equal to a 'full' PS2 and with the latest slimline it seems theyve optomised many more things(PSP= new product to Sony and is easily upgraded software wise, PS2 is over PS3 is being developed and it was a er bold step to make such a speced machine... serious geeks will know what I'm talking about.... how many multi threading games does anyone here know lol.... and ppl ask me why Crysis run better on an old P4 3.00ghz with a 8800 than with a 2.2 Quad core and some crappy built in gfx soloution.... good analogy:)).

4th: Second reason, other than the fact the DS has the equivlant proccesing power to a N64(though a bad comparison IMO given the dual proccesor setup)... even IF the GFX were cut down, the voices taken out, it would need to be half a dozen carts.... yes.... PSP=UMD=2 Gigs storage(as I remember the capacity and I should imagine that ran very tight in devolpment, theres probably some major compression going on there). I think on DS the best we'll get is with the FF series(current handheld game I'm on at this time is FFIII and that use some pretty major compression). Add to that the huge potential storage of a PSP(most ppl I know have 1Gig+ memory sticks) perfect for 'upgrades' and storing the large save files.

5: I am sure with the homebrew apps(if your on the PSP scene) it would be possible to run DC PSO on the PSP.... maybe even some other versions. I've never tried it but I would guess its possible but beware I have known a few ppl that have 'bricked' their PSP running homebrew and in a lot of countries the stores wont take them in for repair/replacement so thats an expensive mistake.

6: When this comes out I would not at all be suprised if it runs better. As I said a PSP NOT much less powerfull than PS2 and it seems ST are not behind the coding(I love em but as an ex coder IMO there code is not exactly streamlined). And of course I doubt they'll be using Gameguard on the PSP:).

7: I'm real happy about this.... at last Sega have managed almost complete domination of my consoles/PC. DC, then GC, XBox(lol is PSO still running there... I think it is... the least used of all the official PSO servers is still up) thought about the 360 version but went with PC(and BB lives on my PC to) I thought my handhelds were safe, I thought I'd never even use my PSP other than for watching movies at work... and re-running Tales of Eternia for the xxxnth time!... even Socom when I can get a wifi signal in the 'lounge' I break in). Really my DS has been getting all the attention the games on this are in general excellent playably.

8: Thanks for posting that article beatrixkiddo, what magazine was it from(Famitsu? lol) I dont suppose you could translate that info? Did it give ANY release time like when abouts in 2008 it will be released(I wonder if it will be after the EU gets AoI... lol... I owe those guys at gamesplus).




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Kelvie
Dec 5, 2007, 09:06 AM
I see peoples afraid here and there on how the game would run on PSP.
Seeing how they adapted Monster Hunter G and Monster Hunter 2 for the PSP, I think that Sega could make a perfectly fine running version of the game on it.

I don't really know why the game get so many slowdown on ps2, but if the PSP can run (the so beautiful *o*) MHF fine, it can run PSU too.
PSU got a lot wider areas between each loading, yep, but with soooo much less details than Monster Hunter.

Oh, and about the offline rather than online coop, it is probably because japaneses are used to gather to play games in local as much as we are used to play them online.

Yunfa
Dec 5, 2007, 09:10 AM
I have the old PSP, if they make the movement using the tiny analog, that alone will prevent me from buy this.

B0Bomb
Dec 5, 2007, 09:12 AM
Fabulous. Just when I thought I was free of the clutches of wanting a PSP, they drop this on the community. Now I wonder when they will decide to port Phantasy Star 4 to a handheld.

Fox_Makenshi
Dec 5, 2007, 09:17 AM
On 2007-12-05 05:34, Reipard wrote:
Ad-Hoc isn't completely damnable in the US. If you have Custom Firmware on your PSP then there's a program called X-Link Kai that lets you play Ad-Hoc stuff online with people who are not next to you.



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You don't need custom firmware...>.> I have the original PSP and the Sony updates and I can use Xlink Kai.

Love,
Fox Makenshi

Turbobrain
Dec 5, 2007, 09:30 AM
On 2007-12-05 06:12, B0Bomb wrote:
Fabulous. Just when I thought I was free of the clutches of wanting a PSP, they drop this on the community. Now I wonder when they will decide to port Phantasy Star 4 to a handheld.



Phantasy Star 1,2,3 and 4 are already on PSP on the Sega collection disk. Along with interviews, trivia. They play perfectly.

Reipard
Dec 5, 2007, 09:42 AM
Now that IS neat, but it further shows that this game is cater more to the JPs than US, when in order for us to play together more conviently, we have to resort to less than legal methods...

Nothing at all is illegal about Custom Firmware OR X-Link Kai ^_^.


You don't need custom firmware...>.> I have the original PSP and the Sony updates and I can use Xlink Kai.

Did not know that o_o. That works out very well then. I only wish X-Link wasn't such a PITA to set up.

landman
Dec 5, 2007, 09:43 AM
It's understandable they do it for PSP, they want to attract FF fans with the story mode and MH fans with the multyplayer, DS has lots of sales but most of them are casual players that buy brain trainings and such, a part from the graphical difference.

I haven't touched my PSP since... Sonic Rivals, the first one, I played like 3 minutes, that was one year ago.

panzer_unit
Dec 5, 2007, 10:01 AM
Ugh, a separate game with ad-hoc only? I was hoping I could grind AOI from wireless hotspots... got a CANT TYPE FAST macro set up and everything.

Hmm, maybe I could get my wife playing this with me. On the other hand, she's a MHF2 hardcore so I dunno.

EspioKaos
Dec 5, 2007, 10:28 AM
On 2007-12-05 05:46, Turbobrain wrote:
Did it give ANY release time like when abouts in 2008 it will be released

Unfortunately not. All the article mentions is 2008; not even a month or quarter.

Kinako78
Dec 5, 2007, 11:30 AM
On 2007-12-05 04:47, Reipard wrote:
So much anger http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif.


So much whining, you mean...

Zorak000
Dec 5, 2007, 11:53 AM
ehh... I will pass. All my PSP does these days is collect dust. Im too much of a pack-rat to sell it, and I may be getting a DS soon.

It just does not seem portable enough for me, I always need some sort of anchor coming from it, either a power cord or the new tv thingy. I don't travel enough to use it, and if I'm at home, why should I play this if I have PSU just a few feet away?

ShinMaruku
Dec 5, 2007, 11:56 AM
My PSP will now glow.

Tomeeboy
Dec 5, 2007, 12:03 PM
I say this is a good thing for the Phantasy Star franchise, regardless of what system it is on or what kind of multiplayer it has. Every Phantasy Star title that Sega puts out is another sign that they are continuing to back the franchise, which hopefully means more Phantasy Star down the road for everyone. Any success they have with this should benefit us all in one form or another. Regardless of whether or not I pick up a PSP and play this, I'll be keeping my fingers crossed that it does well with the PSP crowd http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

This also shows that they have already started bringing PSU to other systems. If this version is truly going to have local multiplayer only, then I would not be surprised to see a Wii version come out that has similar functionality, but with limited online support (ie: connect directly with friends to play via the internet, rather than connecting to one big server).

MrPOW
Dec 5, 2007, 12:09 PM
I'm excited...but nowhere near as excited as I would be were this online. I'm not getting a PSP until the plain ceramic white comes out in the US in early '08...so I'm not familiar with the online capabilities of the system. Are there online games? I never hear anyone talk about them...whereas I hear people talk about playing DS games online all the time. How could the PSP, which is overall a more technically advanced system then the DS, have skimped on the online side of things?

omegapirate2k
Dec 5, 2007, 12:10 PM
I wonder, when this comes out, will we have a forum specifically for the PSP game?

Jaspaller
Dec 5, 2007, 12:15 PM
Sounds like crap.

Maxson
Dec 5, 2007, 01:09 PM
The Japanese are turning to portables in a big way- New Super Mario Bros. (DS) sold 5 million copies, while Super Mario Galaxy (Wii) sold only 500,000. Dragon Quest 9 is for the DS. The PSP just got FF: Crysis Core, and we already know about Monster Hunter. Sega's just looking at trends and going for the popular platforms in Japan.

As for DS vs. PSP: you'd have to make an entirely new engine to run the game on DS, while the PSP can use huge chunks of ported PS2 code. Hopefully the game won't just be a bad port (the load times would be terrible), but they'll save themselves a LOT of coding by going PSP.

Kylie
Dec 5, 2007, 01:12 PM
Interesting. I might have to get a PSP, depending on what the game looks like.

pikachief
Dec 5, 2007, 01:18 PM
my PSP will do more than play music! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

lol.... i was thinking about just renting it if it came to the US but u know i dont play anything on my PSP so i guess i could buy http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

only problem is that i dont know anyone else with a PSP D:

And on DS wouldn't the camera movement items and weapon selection get kinda cramped all in that little touch screen? dont get me wrong, i love the DS but i dont see how it would work http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

also im pretty sure they wanted to keep around the same Graphic level so they kept it on PSP http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Rayokarna
Dec 5, 2007, 01:27 PM
If this is gonna use all of the offline data from AotI then I'll be extreamly happy. Cause this game is looking extreamly good.

All classes can reach at least lvl 30 PAs in offline(I think they can, I did it in v1 offline) and have a vast weapon selection. Will be great offline multiplayer.

Plust I can be a GT with Rods, Whips, Double Sabers and Twin Sabers http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Pentence
Dec 5, 2007, 01:36 PM
On 2007-12-04 23:15, Miyoko wrote:
... They're putting it on PSP?

... You know, I've said "Fuck you, Sega" a lot in the past few weeks, but now, I mean it more than ever.

Fuck you, Sega.

PSP. What a waste :l



I have two psps that are broken one a friend gave me and the other found on a street.So yeah both work fine sound,read discs etc, just busted screens soooo i geuss i better go ahead and order the screens for them from sharp.It looks like ill be needing them for this game MUHAHAHAHA...oh andthe bleach import psp fighter game WOOT region free

PS:the screens order from sharp are like 40 bucks includeing shiping so thats two psp for only $80

Deucer
Dec 5, 2007, 01:40 PM
Good marketing idea to give the PSP version a unique story. But unfair for the rest of us.
... Not that the story is particularly amazing, but I admit I have a soft spot for it.

Pentence
Dec 5, 2007, 01:44 PM
If i am not mistaken this seems like it will show you chaseing the girl Howzer sent out to bring down the guardians colony.So it will basicly be akin to playing out the comics little tidbits.Well at least i hope so its very sad when the best story ya got is for a game is in its comic and NOT in the game itself.

tei
Dec 5, 2007, 01:59 PM
*~* Woah, didn't expect a PSP PSU...


* Based on PSU and its expansion, with added missions and story.
So... like... As PSU+AoI, does that mean it's going to be Episode 1 Story (Ethan-mode), Episode 1 Extra, Episode 2 Offline, Episode 3 now offline too, AND extra missions and story ontop of that...?

I was considering a PSP for MHF2 (love the ps2 version...)... and Tales of the World (chaaaaracter customizability... <3)... and Valhalla Knights... (looks like the kind of game I like..) But I eventually decided it was too expensive and I couldn't afford it.. But now PSU for it...? If they add in room deco tickets and the evolution devices (+470!), I'm going to have to look up which organs I have that aren't vital... so I can sell them to raise a money for PSP.. T-T;

Anduril
Dec 5, 2007, 02:03 PM
If we get this here, and the New PSP exclusive Kingdom Hearts game I may just shell out some money for one of those forsaken machines. I may have to donate my body to science to buy one, seeing as I have an astounding $-10 from my Wallet and Bank Account combined...

Rayokarna
Dec 5, 2007, 02:13 PM
Does anyone know the PA max points for Hunter/Ranger/Force for AOI offline. Im sure they will use it in PSP if its based off PSU/AOI.



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Schubalts
Dec 5, 2007, 02:30 PM
Hurray for having a few thousand bucks in the bank with no bills to pay!

Anduril
Dec 5, 2007, 02:39 PM
On 2007-12-05 11:30, Schubalts wrote:
Hurray for having a few thousand bucks in the bank with no bills to pay!

Oooohhhh, you suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.... Like taking a long pointy log and jabbing me right in the spleen...





I just hope this game is any good.

Eclipse9
Dec 5, 2007, 02:42 PM
Hmm, I have psp, but have yet to buy a single game (all downloaded with an emulator) this may finially be a reason to buy a game and update my firmware, if andonly if it will be online and I can play as my xbox guy. As unlikely as this seems I sure wont pay an extra monthly fee to start over at square one just so I can have it portable.

DavidNel
Dec 5, 2007, 02:46 PM
What will Sega think of next? A card game? Lol.

DoubleJG
Dec 5, 2007, 02:46 PM
I sold my PSP a few months ago... and now this comes out!?

I may have to rebuy a PSP just for this, assuming it's actually good. If it's IDENTICAL to PSU + AOI offline mode, then I may skip it seeing how none of my friends own a PSP, therefor hindering my ability to play multiplayer. Does the article actually SAY that it ONLY supports local multiplayer, or is there just no mention of wifi?

Also, what's this Xlink Kai people speak of?

Rayokarna
Dec 5, 2007, 02:50 PM
On 2007-12-05 11:46, DoubleJG3288 wrote:
I sold my PSP a few months ago... and now this comes out!?

I may have to rebuy a PSP just for this, assuming it's actually good. If it's IDENTICAL to PSU + AOI offline mode, then I may skip it seeing how none of my friends own a PSP, therefor hindering my ability to play multiplayer. Does the article actually SAY that it ONLY supports local multiplayer, or is there just no mention of wifi?

Also, what's this Xlink Kai people speak of?



XLink allows you to play a local wireless game over the net with same game with the same region.

You think they might have downloadable content or wot not...?

DoubleJG
Dec 5, 2007, 02:51 PM
Oh, so in other words, people complaining about local wireless only is pointless since Xlink is around?

Syanaide
Dec 5, 2007, 02:51 PM
On 2007-12-05 11:46, DavidNel wrote:
What will Sega think of next? A card game? Lol.



There already is one.

Can't really tell if you're being sarcastic or not.

Rayokarna
Dec 5, 2007, 02:55 PM
On 2007-12-05 11:51, DoubleJG3288 wrote:
Oh, so in other words, people complaining about local wireless only is pointless since Xlink is around?



Yes and no. In the UK those things are pretty much easy to get a hold of. Not sure with the US tho. But the Region thing is gonna mess it up a bit, I'll just buy the US and EU on http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

DoubleJG
Dec 5, 2007, 02:55 PM
So... it doesn't work that well with US users? Or, are you just saying that US players will not be able to play with EU users?

Otis_Kat
Dec 5, 2007, 02:57 PM
I wonder if this title will have the same fate as the Game Gear PSs did.

Rayokarna
Dec 5, 2007, 02:59 PM
On 2007-12-05 11:55, DoubleJG3288 wrote:
So... it doesn't work that well with US users? Or, are you just saying that US players will not be able to play with EU users?



the latter. Won't really make a difference to me anyway. Where I live, ther is a community of PSP players. Most play Monster Hunter but they will be more than happy to move to this.

MrPOW
Dec 5, 2007, 03:00 PM
Do you have to have hacked firmware to use Xlink? This game could be awesome if you can in fact play it online in this fashion...because I think it will return to PSO's design of making a character to play offline, then taking that same character to play online with other people. Since the game isn't officially online I don't see why they would differentiate between offline/online characters like they do now to prevent cheating.

Rayokarna
Dec 5, 2007, 03:01 PM
On 2007-12-05 12:00, MrPOW wrote:
Do you have to have hacked firmware to use Xlink?



No

DoubleJG
Dec 5, 2007, 03:02 PM
So what are the requirements for Xlink? Highspeed internet and a wireless router?

Shye
Dec 5, 2007, 03:04 PM
On 2007-12-05 07:01, panzer_unit wrote:
Ugh, a separate game with ad-hoc only? I was hoping I could grind AOI from wireless hotspots... got a CANT TYPE FAST macro set up and everything.



I do wish you could grind your console/pc characters on the PSP. PA runs while in line at the bank, money runs at work...

I originally bought a PSP just for Silent Hill: Origins but now with this coming out and Warriors Orochi on the way, I'm glad I bought one. How fun. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif


On 2007-12-05 11:39, Anduril wrote:
Oooohhhh, you suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.... Like taking a long pointy log and jabbing me right in the spleen...



Aren't they making that game on the DS? "Jab Anduril In The Spleen With A Long Pointy Log; The Early Years"? I was practicing my rapid stylus-poking to get on the Leaderboards.

Rayokarna
Dec 5, 2007, 03:06 PM
On 2007-12-05 12:02, DoubleJG3288 wrote:
So what are the requirements for Xlink? Highspeed internet and a wireless router?



I think both actually. Broadband I think is a must. But Im not sure on the Wireless router. Someone can correct me if Im wrong...

pikachief
Dec 5, 2007, 03:12 PM
On 2007-12-05 11:50, Rayokarna wrote:

On 2007-12-05 11:46, DoubleJG3288 wrote:
I sold my PSP a few months ago... and now this comes out!?

I may have to rebuy a PSP just for this, assuming it's actually good. If it's IDENTICAL to PSU + AOI offline mode, then I may skip it seeing how none of my friends own a PSP, therefor hindering my ability to play multiplayer. Does the article actually SAY that it ONLY supports local multiplayer, or is there just no mention of wifi?

Also, what's this Xlink Kai people speak of?



XLink allows you to play a local wireless game over the net with same game with the same region.

You think they might have downloadable content or wot not...?



ok its a buy for me now for sure!!!

HFlowen
Dec 5, 2007, 03:14 PM
For Xlink you need the software for it and wireless access for you PSP to connect to your computer.

EDIT: if you don't have a wireless router you CAN use a little usb device called WiFi Max, but it's a pain in the arse to set up correctly >.>

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pikachief
Dec 5, 2007, 03:16 PM
software? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif i have to buy something for it too? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif aww oh well i already have good wireless internet anyways http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

HFlowen
Dec 5, 2007, 03:17 PM
Nah, xlink is free from what i remember (used to play monster hunter freedom with it)

You just go to their site, download and register a screen name.

HFlowen
Dec 5, 2007, 03:18 PM
http://www.teamxlink.co.uk/

MrPOW
Dec 5, 2007, 03:19 PM
I was just checking out the Xlink website...popular games have lobbies you can go to to look for games and everything. So awesome...

I think the only problem might be communication. Since Sega is planning on you being in the same room as the people you're playing with I doubt there will be any kind of chatting in the game.

zemog
Dec 5, 2007, 03:19 PM
I've decided that I would buy this game even if I never expect to play it multiplayer, which is why my only last request is that it is an enjoyable experience playing Solo. To that effect, if they decide NOT to dedicate resources to giving it an english Dub... leave it with a Japanese Dubbing with english text... don't take out the Dub completely like AotI (heard they have voices in JPN).

HFlowen
Dec 5, 2007, 03:21 PM
On 2007-12-05 12:19, MrPOW wrote:
I was just checking out the Xlink website...popular games have lobbies you can go to to look for games and everything. So awesome...

I think the only problem might be communication. Since Sega is planning on you being in the same room as the people you're playing with I doubt there will be any kind of chatting in the game.

When your playing a game with people over Xlink you are given a little AIM type chat room to communicate with.

Zorafim
Dec 5, 2007, 03:23 PM
I don't think this scan has been posted on this topic, so here it is.

http://www.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu10151.jpg

The picture is too big, so I'm going to post it as a link. Anyway, it seems to just be a PSU port for the PSP. Nothing at all special about it, and considering how much of a flop both PSU and the PSP is, I really don't see any reason to get it. After all, what can it possibly be, another offline story mode?

HFlowen
Dec 5, 2007, 03:30 PM
EDIT: forget it, I don't have the time for arguments today.


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MrPOW
Dec 5, 2007, 03:34 PM
Yeah the PSP is hardly a "flop"....

FnalKnight
Dec 5, 2007, 03:42 PM
Uh, even if you like/dislike the PSP or like/dislike the idea of the PSP version of PSU everyone is going to want this game that plays any of the Phantasy Stars. I dont even have a PSP yet and now I gotta save up some money for one so I can get this if it ever comes out stateside.

Zorafim
Dec 5, 2007, 03:45 PM
Regardless, I've never heard of either the PSP or PSU talked about in a good light except by fans. I'd normally assume this to mean that it's not doing well.

Judging by the scans, this looks like it's just PSU portable. I don't know anyone with a PSP, so if I buy it it'll be to play solo. I doubt I'll be able to use my online character, so I'll probably have to make a new one. The gameplay looks identical, so pretty much the only new thing will probably be story.

All I see is a game that will probably take story away from the main series, really. No reason on my end to get excited, or even curious. Regardless, let me know how it turns out.

Lykos
Dec 5, 2007, 03:46 PM
I haven't noticed until now how much PSU seems like graphically and performance wise that it should be for a handheld, not a console.

And I mean that in the worst way possible.

ChaosAngel92
Dec 5, 2007, 03:47 PM
What? Wait?! Hold on! almpst everyone is complain it about this?!!!!!! Ok, very good. Now im really mad. You know? I think i will post something it need to....as soon as i can finish with symbolic logic.
But, just to give you a taste of wht it will be.......ITS ABSURD YOU ALL ARE COMPLAIN IT!.
Shees, you dont like nothing, this and that, PSO+PSU sucks, PSU comic sucks, duh duh duh duh yarararara.

Im really really really mad. Really, i even feel offended shees.

Zorafim
Dec 5, 2007, 03:53 PM
Who's complaining? It's just severely underwhelming. Considering how little the main game has, I feel they should focus on it before launching spinoffs.

Plus I'm sure we're all annoyed that it's being made for the PSP and not the DS.

Saphion
Dec 5, 2007, 03:55 PM
Because according to SEGA, apparently we all want less online functionality and more of the distinctly average single player mode.

EDIT: Sorry, I'm just bitter. Please ignore this post.

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ShinMaruku
Dec 5, 2007, 03:56 PM
DS should get a PS game but NOT PSU. Friends codes >_> DS powah, >_>
Ask for a PS spin off but not PSU. Thus ST is away from it!

Zorafim
Dec 5, 2007, 03:58 PM
Actually, I'd be interested in it if it followed a fleshed out character and covered more of the side story of the game. Of course, all I see happening is story mode v3, which may as well have happened online.

beatrixkiddo
Dec 5, 2007, 04:01 PM
On 2007-12-05 12:23, Zorafim wrote:
I don't think this scan has been posted on this topic, so here it is.

http://www.mithra.to/~psu/uploader/src/psu10151.jpg

The picture is too big, so I'm going to post it as a link. Anyway, it seems to just be a PSU port for the PSP. Nothing at all special about it, and considering how much of a flop both PSU and the PSP is, I really don't see any reason to get it. After all, what can it possibly be, another offline story mode?



It was posted on the first page http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

Zorafim
Dec 5, 2007, 04:03 PM
Then I am made of epic fail.

beatrixkiddo
Dec 5, 2007, 04:06 PM
Also, the PSP isn't a flop.


In Japan that is, WHICH IS WHERE THIS GAME IS BEING MADE GO FIGURE

Lavie
Dec 5, 2007, 04:16 PM
this may sway me to psp, depending on how sega handles it. what i really want from it, is compatibility with the ps2/pc versions. heres hoping sega can make it work http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_mad.gif

Ryoki
Dec 5, 2007, 04:20 PM
On 2007-12-04 23:07, kyori wrote:
It'll probably run smoother than the PS2. Alfa Systems is behind the development and they've more than proven themselves pretty good on most hardware. (Shikigami no Shiro series, Tales of the World series, and Tales of Innocence)

Other notes:

It's 4 player ADHOC.
Vivianne will be voiced by Megumi Toyoguchi
Helga will be voiced by Rie Tanaka?! (Who also voices Karen)


Eh? So that's where they got Rie Tanaka studios (the people who make Serafi items) from. Go figure.

Kanju
Dec 5, 2007, 04:22 PM
On 2007-12-05 12:53, Zorafim wrote:

Plus I'm sure we're all annoyed that it's being made for the PSP and not the DS.


More like made at all.

-Ryuki-
Dec 5, 2007, 04:23 PM
Uh. The PSP may have been a huge disaster (as like the PS3 when it first came out) back in the past, but the system is nowhere near a "flop". I love my PSP to death, and my library of games. If you think the PSP doesn't have any good games, well, I blame all of the people you know for telling you different. I'm not defending PSP because it's Sony and all that jazz, but I'm defending it because of all that crap it gets when it's not that bad of a system ANYMORE.

Ryoki
Dec 5, 2007, 04:24 PM
Flame Wars?
IN PSOW?!?


[spoiler-box]NO
FUCKING
WAY![/spoiler-box]


http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif



Besides, people need to stop complaining about it being on PSP. I DON'T see HOW it could work on DS. And it will give me a use for my PSP XD.

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beatrixkiddo
Dec 5, 2007, 04:25 PM
It's not meant to be compatible with the PSU servers. It's strictly local wifi only.

Sexy_Raine
Dec 5, 2007, 04:28 PM
It's all good to me. I have a PSP, and glad I can give it some more use.

-Ryuki-
Dec 5, 2007, 04:29 PM
Also note: Who cares if it's on PSP. If you don't have one, big deal. You can live without playing ONE of the Phantasy Star games.

There's been some games that the 360 has that I want, but you don't see me complaining that they have exclusive titles. Ever since SNES vs Genesis and their "Only for" crap, that goes on even 'til today, there's always been exclusive titles. Back then people accepted it. Why can't anyone accept it now?

Turambar
Dec 5, 2007, 04:29 PM
On 2007-12-05 13:20, Ryoki wrote:

On 2007-12-04 23:07, kyori wrote:
It'll probably run smoother than the PS2. Alfa Systems is behind the development and they've more than proven themselves pretty good on most hardware. (Shikigami no Shiro series, Tales of the World series, and Tales of Innocence)

Other notes:

It's 4 player ADHOC.
Vivianne will be voiced by Megumi Toyoguchi
Helga will be voiced by Rie Tanaka?! (Who also voices Karen)


Eh? So that's where they got Rie Tanaka studios (the people who make Serafi items) from. Go figure.



She has an evil doll, a Peace Princess (But is actually evil), and now a galactic terrorist under her belt now? =P

Rayokarna
Dec 5, 2007, 04:31 PM
In Japan this will be one of the headline release dates for next year I think...

ThEoRy
Dec 5, 2007, 04:51 PM
On 2007-12-04 22:06, Rainu wrote:

On 2007-12-04 22:04, Zorafim wrote:
Let me get this strait. They made PSP for the PSP?


Dear god. Coincidence?


Not really. just look at all the DS games sub titled Dawn of Sorrow or Dual Strike or whatever pseudo clever titles they can imagine.

This was a complete surprize to me and I'm sure many others. Looks like sega is really dedicated to bringing psu to the masses. And who knows, maybe this will bring many new players into the console version as well.

RemiusTA
Dec 5, 2007, 05:05 PM
On 2007-12-05 03:24, Saphion wrote:

On 2007-12-05 02:28, RemiusTA wrote:
and this should be a wakeup call to all of you sad desperate souls who still believe sega is going to give you a new version of PSO to waste your life on

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Even so, that's no excuse to act like a dick. Or maybe being rude and arrogant comes naturally to you?



Yes it is, its damn funny to listen to the retarded reasons why PSO is "technically superior" and why "Sonic Team didn't even try with PSU."


And wake up, people. Yes, the DS is a MUCH better portable system and is doing WAYY better than the PSP, but PSU simply wouldn't work on the DS.

They would be further sacrificing the graphics (if you look in the screenshot that dragon is of much lower poly quality than ps2/PC/360), and WORST of all they would have to fumble around with nintendo's FUCKING retarded friend code policy.


Nintendo is awesome for making the DS more Network capable, but lets face it. Friend Codes suck, and they will restrict every single online DS (And most likely Wii, too) released for it. I have no clue why nintendo is so Hit/Miss with everything they do.

Awesome game system, garbage graphics.
Awesome FPS game, no Online Multiplayer. (Hi MP3)
Online Multiplayer Smash Bros, FRIEND CODES.

Stop making perfect games not perfect by fucking something up, nintendo.



(This is most likely why PSU wont be being released on the Wii, either. Friend Codes just do NOT work.)

Saphion
Dec 5, 2007, 05:31 PM
So you reply to my post saying there's no need to act like a dick, by acting like a dick?

Huh.

VanHalen
Dec 5, 2007, 05:40 PM
I dont know if this has been said before, but why would PSU be on a DS? It was released on a Sony console, why wouldn't they make something for a Sony handheld?

Zorafim
Dec 5, 2007, 05:41 PM
Because I have a DS and not a PSP. I don't need any other reason than that to complain.

pikachief
Dec 5, 2007, 05:48 PM
On 2007-12-05 14:41, Zorafim wrote:
Because I have a DS and not a PSP. I don't need any other reason than that to complain.



well since u have no good reason to complain we have no good reason to listen ^.^ so complain away http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif


as long as i can hunt and play story mode when im out, then set up online at home to play with some friends later on im good http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Fry_Heit
Dec 5, 2007, 05:49 PM
I wanted to add that if PSU's coming for the PSP and not for the DS, it's probably because it was waaaay cheaper, easier and faster to do : the game engine is already completed as well as most maps. It saves a lot of time, don't you all think?

Turbobrain
Dec 5, 2007, 05:53 PM
It would not work in a form remotley recognizable as AOI on DS.... I have and love the DS but really.... no way. Its not favourtism its just dealing with hardware reality and frankly IMO one of the ONLY reasons that this is possible PSP(I also have and like;)) is becuase of UMD and most ppl easily have 1gig+ of memory on their stick free. Though I am looking forward to this I just know that load times will again be an issue.

Bear in mind that the PSP is still(from a gaming hardware specifaction point of view) inferior to DC probably even GC.

It was a MAJOR thing for the PSP homebrew community to stream videos from youtube.... something my mobile phone has been able to do for a while.... what this game could be like if someone really put the R+D into a decent portable.

Zorafim
Dec 5, 2007, 06:03 PM
On 2007-12-05 14:48, pikachief wrote:
well since u have no good reason to complain we have no good reason to listen ^.^ so complain away http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif


Finally, someone gets it.


As for this game being a copy paste of PSU, what's the point of getting it if you already have PSU? I'd be the same game, same gameplay, lower graphics and the like, and worse online capabilities. I fail to see their logic so far.

phunk
Dec 5, 2007, 06:06 PM
So, PSO for DS next, right?

Right?

Please?

Zorafim
Dec 5, 2007, 06:09 PM
I'd rather a real Phantasy Star RPG. It's kind of sad that my most anticipated RPG is a remake of FFIV.

AnamanaAU
Dec 5, 2007, 06:12 PM
On 2007-12-04 23:45, Handsock wrote:
Yes, it should. The touch screen would make great for switching weapons and using items at your whim. The only thing they'd need to do is make it NON-friendcode. Friendcodes are beat.


DS couldn't handle the game, even on PSP it will be optimized. Unless you want it looking as bad as an n64 game.

pikachief
Dec 5, 2007, 06:24 PM
On 2007-12-05 15:03, Zorafim wrote:

On 2007-12-05 14:48, pikachief wrote:
well since u have no good reason to complain we have no good reason to listen ^.^ so complain away http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif


Finally, someone gets it.


As for this game being a copy paste of PSU, what's the point of getting it if you already have PSU? I'd be the same game, same gameplay, lower graphics and the like, and worse online capabilities. I fail to see their logic so far.



just for the futher story missions >.<

Zorafim
Dec 5, 2007, 06:28 PM
They can do that online >.<

Shye
Dec 5, 2007, 06:30 PM
Am I the only one who doesn't mind a game or series I like coming out on [whatever] console/handheld?

I don't think I'll ever understand people throwing around sales statistics about systems. I'd rather make my own decision about buying it based on whether I enjoy playing it and if there are any games on it I would like to play. I'm not a Sony fanboy... or Microsoft fanboy... or Sonic Team fanboy... I like playing games and PSU is sometimes fun.

As for why people would want to buy another version of a game they already have... because they like it. It also, as has been stated, supports Sonic Team and encourages them to make/do more.
[edit:] Also: See the Dynasty Warriors fans for more reasons why someone would buy the same thing over and over again. Also... PSU on the go? Whee!

I can't imagine a pc/360/ps2-like version of PSU being on the DS, just from a technical standpoint... and I'm a little impressed they were even able to do it on the PSP. I'm glad for them. Good for you, Sonic Team.

It would have been nice if they made a PSU game for the DS, I suppose. (I don't have one and haven't seen a game on it I'd want, frankly) Maybe a less action-oriented game with a deeper more fleshed out storyline. I personally wouldn't buy it, but I also wouldn't complain it was there. >.>



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Zorafim
Dec 5, 2007, 06:34 PM
On 2007-12-05 15:31, Thanubis wrote:
I guess I will say this though.

PSU PC/PS2 version = 4.7GB

Maximum size of a PSP UMD = 2GB

Current Maximum size of a NDS card = 256MB




You make an excellent point.

Shadow_Wing
Dec 5, 2007, 06:35 PM
On 2007-12-05 15:09, Zorafim wrote:
I'd rather a real Phantasy Star RPG. It's kind of sad that my most anticipated RPG is a remake of FFIV.



QFT, well in terms of PS anyways. CMON I WANT MY PS4 DAM IT

AnamanaAU
Dec 5, 2007, 07:01 PM
Personally, with it being 4p Adhoc, I think it's a good idea. Imagine how much of a bitch it would be online typing to each other with the on screen keyboard. God forbid if that was in play, they would use the proprietary PSP on screen keyboard. If it was network, I'm sure this time round they would have a global server.

DoubleJG
Dec 5, 2007, 07:08 PM
So many questions about this game... hmmm hmmm....

1) You think you'll be able to use your "story" character in multiplayer?

2) You think the drops will be more like online play or offline play?

Reipard
Dec 5, 2007, 07:29 PM
They're using a 1GB card for FF4 DS, because they're dubbing the whole game. So that size is about to get a lot bigger.

EspioKaos
Dec 5, 2007, 07:52 PM
On 2007-12-05 16:08, DoubleJG3288 wrote:
1) You think you'll be able to use your "story" character in multiplayer?

Probably. There's no reason that I can see for the story and multi-player modes to be kept separate in this game.

-Ryuki-
Dec 5, 2007, 07:56 PM
I'm pretty sure the drops would be like Offline AoI, and no you couldn't use your story character unless you somehow converted a PC save file into a PSP save file.

Rayokarna
Dec 5, 2007, 08:05 PM
On 2007-12-05 16:56, RyukiZero wrote:
I'm pretty sure the drops would be like Offline AoI, and no you couldn't use your story character unless you somehow converted a PC save file into a PSP save file.



I think he means PSP Story mode character...

Turbobrain
Dec 5, 2007, 08:10 PM
On 2007-12-05 16:45, Thanubis wrote:

On 2007-12-05 16:29, Reipard wrote:
They're using a 1GB card for FF4 DS, because they're dubbing the whole game. So that size is about to get a lot bigger.I don't know where you heard that, so I'll wait two weeks and see what size it is for sure. Theoretically, the DS should be able to read 4GB cards but that's at least a few years from becoming reality.



Already can, MP3 player.

Drithe
Dec 5, 2007, 08:19 PM
The DS is an INFERIOR system in terms of graphics compared to the PSP. The DS COULD NOT have PSU on it. Period. Get over it Nintendo fan boys. Infact, the ONLY REASON the DS is ahead of the PSP is, like the PS3, THE PRICE. If you brought down the psp to 99 dollards and the DS, the PSP would out sell it 5 to 1.

Make no mistake about it . The PSP is THE superior portable machine.

End of Line.

Raven5_1
Dec 5, 2007, 08:31 PM
On 2007-12-05 17:19, Drithe wrote:
The DS is an INFERIOR system in terms of graphics compared to the PSP. The DS COULD NOT have PSU on it. Period. Get over it Nintendo fan boys. Infact, the ONLY REASON the DS is ahead of the PSP is, like the PS3, THE PRICE. If you brought down the psp to 99 dollards and the DS, the PSP would out sell it 5 to 1.

Make no mistake about it . The PSP is THE superior portable machine.

End of Line.



End of Line?

the award for rabid fanboyism goes to....

Helly
Dec 5, 2007, 08:36 PM
To much hate!

PSO is over. Dead. Gone! No more! And probably so is the regular classic PC series for that matter!

What's wrong with putting this on the PSP? Ya'll whined when the series was moved to the PS2 so I guess the haters from that move are still at it. But more haters would pop-up if it were moved to yet another brand/system (DS) soooo... sheesh!

PSU was gonna be continuing for some time long before this side-story was announced so its not like the series life is being extended because of this.

And yes this will come to the US/EU! Why wouldn't it? What Sega PSP games haven't made it over? Very few if any!


On 2007-12-05 16:56, RyukiZero wrote:
I'm pretty sure the drops would be like Offline AoI, and no you couldn't use your story character unless you somehow converted a PC save file into a PSP save file.

You can connect PSP's to PS2's ya know. I'm pretty sure a game or two has used that feature so maybe it could read the memory card AoI story mode data and transfer your character to the PSP game? But I doubt they'll go that extra mile!

Sinue_v2
Dec 5, 2007, 08:53 PM
PSO is over. Dead. Gone! No more! And probably so is the regular classic PC series for that matter!

And yet, in the scope of time, I'd be willing to be that those two series will leave longer lasting and more well loved legacies than what PSU will leave. Maybe it's just the curse of threes, but PSU really lost the magic. It's a conflict, to be sure. On the one hand, I want to see PSU rise above what it's aspired to so far and do well - so that Sega doesn't get the silly notion that PS is no longer viable as a franchise. But on the other hand, I'd like to see it ended and ended as quickly as possible so that it can be forgotten and the next series in the franchise can begin and hopefully redeem the franchise.

I would like to be filled in on the storyline from this title, but I can't say I'm anticipating it - and it would definitely not entice me to buy a PSP just to play it. Maybe I'll eventually download and emulate some day in the future, like I do with PSG & PSA. If it comes out for a platform I own and am interested in sometime in the future, I'll probably pick it up. Maybe as an XBLA download.

And that's assuming that the game even comes out in the US at all.

QuidProQuo
Dec 5, 2007, 08:54 PM
Oh sweet, I just modded my PSP too instead of selling it.

Turbobrain
Dec 5, 2007, 08:57 PM
On 2007-12-05 17:31, Thanubis wrote:

On 2007-12-05 17:10, Turbobrain wrote:
Already can, MP3 player.We're talking about game cards NOT SD cards and flashcarts.



Ok mang Im just saying its more than theoritcally possible it already can. If you see my other posts here I more than acknowledge the DS is not really appropriate for this....

As it happens at post <14 I mentioned the fact that UMD was 2G+... compared to DS... therefore not tenable on any handheld.

Still the PSP(I wasted so mant hours on Eternia and even used it doen the gym as a mp3 played when I smashed my Ipod) is only getting the game becuase its the only alternative.

Turbobrain
Dec 5, 2007, 09:38 PM
On 2007-12-05 17:36, Helly wrote:
To much hate!


Actually, no you and I dont mean to cause any offense or confront you but the private server currently has 450 ppl online... and thats up from last month by agout 250% largely attributed to the PSOBB anouncement.

Dont believe me? Look for yourself at the forum.

PSU has 1/2 stars= 350 ppl.

Dont get me wrong I love both the games and cant stand fanboys of both sorts.

But PSO is FAR from dead.

I really wish I could go into more discussion but I cant as it violates the rules of this fourm...

*I never realised that alchohol made me into such a argumentive git... I'm just saying PSO is like the Beatles.... not as popular but will always be popular*

Sega moved on, so did the PSO community. Soon as certain ppl here, there come to terms with their aims(Sega making money making games, xxxxxx creating a server and xxxppl playing and DONATING money for the game) the better. If Sega could do ONE thing it would be to give FULL unconditional rights to that place to use the server without legal implication.... who knows... if you google pso then the first page fills up with game sites just talking about that place for a good game). It would serve as good advertising for PSU, AOI.....

and then...

PSP PSP...

I am sure I will enjoy them all:)



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Schubalts
Dec 5, 2007, 10:34 PM
On 2007-12-05 14:05, RemiusTA wrote:

Online Multiplayer Smash Bros, FRIEND CODES.



You can play Brawl online without friend codes, actually.

Tigernado
Dec 6, 2007, 12:51 AM
Well theres a game to get if I ever really decided to get a PSP. Phantasy Star Portable and Power Stone Collection are 2 reasons.

But I have a feeling that PS portable might not have much "original content". "New" Old Boss Models with new skins, and a few unique weapons, minigames maybe?(Then again...thats the approach for psu/aoi that I'm still dragged into anyway >.<)

A original game Phantasy Star game for DS I'd definitely be interested in though.

-Ryuki-
Dec 6, 2007, 01:23 AM
Those would be the only games you'd get for PSP? Whatever happened to the following titles:

Valkyrie Profile
Tales of the World
Riviera
Brave Story
Jeanne D'Arc
Monster Hunter Freedom 2
Final Fantasy Tactics
Castlevania

?

Kairi_Li
Dec 6, 2007, 01:37 AM
For god's sake. Comparing DS to the PSP is like comparing to Apple's and oranges. Or chick flicks with action movies. They are both gaming machines just as the other stuff are both movies and fruit, but are cater to different people with different taste. Both have its ups and downs, and neither is truly better than the other. The only people who think that way are people who have different taste, and not because the handheld is inferior.

And it is also a fact that the PSP is a success in JAPAN, the audience Sega gives a crap about, along with many other Japan Game development companies *coughSquarecough* Most of them don't really give a crap about the US audience or anywhere else in the world. We should be glad we even got PSU and AoI in the first place.

I understand its bugging alot of people who don't like the PSP but want the game, but this is how the gaming business works, and whining is not gonna change the fact that it IS a good business move for Sega in Japan, and a bunch of US people complaining about it won't change their minds.

People are entitled to their opinions, but I'm sick of people trying to pawn off their opinions as facts. Whether or not something is better than the other , its all subjective in the end.

-Ryuki-
Dec 6, 2007, 01:39 AM
Preach on Lizo, preach on.

WBMike
Dec 6, 2007, 02:09 AM
OMG Someone talking about the Game!

Is it just me or does Vivienne remind me of a certain character from FFXII but with a happier mood. I like her outfit though, its sort of unique in its own way. I feel she might be the curious "Lou" but gets into trouble most of the time. What srikes me odd is Helga's last name, Neumann, what does this really MEAN!? o_O

Syl
Dec 6, 2007, 02:32 AM
On 2007-12-05 22:23, RyukiZero wrote:
Those would be the only games you'd get for PSP? Whatever happened to the following titles:

Valkyrie Profile
Tales of the World
Riviera
Brave Story
Jeanne D'Arc
Monster Hunter Freedom 2
Final Fantasy Tactics
Castlevania

?



Wait, Riviera is on PSP? o.o

Also you forgot to mention the Disgaea remake http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

-Ryuki-
Dec 6, 2007, 02:47 AM
Yeah, Riviera got a ported version on the PSP with updated art/graphics and scenes.

Disgaea, I completely forgot was on PSP, too. (Still haven't picked up my copy >.>)

AweOfShe
Dec 6, 2007, 02:48 AM
Yes, Riviera is on PSP, and it has stuff censored out on that version, I hear. Which is ironic, cause you'd think it'd be the other way around. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

On topic: Negative jackassery of the rest of the thread aside, this news is good news to me. Can't wait to give the game a try.

-Ryuki-
Dec 6, 2007, 03:16 AM
Actually, there's nothing censored about it. =x

AweOfShe
Dec 6, 2007, 03:37 AM
Oh, so the Spring's scenes and CGs were kept after all.

-Ryuki-
Dec 6, 2007, 03:41 AM
Just remember guys.

Phoenix Wright isn't on PSP, and that's a reason why it's not better than the DS. =x

RayJai
Dec 6, 2007, 05:17 AM
On 2007-12-05 22:23, RyukiZero wrote:
Those would be the only games you'd get for PSP? Whatever happened to the following titles:

Valkyrie Profile
Tales of the World
Riviera
Brave Story
Jeanne D'Arc
Monster Hunter Freedom 2
Final Fantasy Tactics
Castlevania

?


I actually own all those games except for Valkyrie Profile, Riviera and Castlevania.

I have a DS and PSP, but play my PSP more often then the DS. IMO, I hate the touch screen on the DS, why must every game for the DS have touch scren!? it's like they find a excuse to make a touch screen game for the DS. Also I tend to lose interest in the DS games after a few weeks (interactive flash like games can only be fun for so long). But I think the games are very creative.
The PSP on the other hand, I actually want to finish them and play them for the story. The split screen movies on DS just turns me off. and IMO i think the PSP has better graphics then the DS.
The PSP can handle more load then then DS anyway. and because of that, thats why they would make PSU/P for the PSP.



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Rayokarna
Dec 6, 2007, 06:04 AM
On 2007-12-05 22:23, RyukiZero wrote:
Those would be the only games you'd get for PSP? Whatever happened to the following titles:

Valkyrie Profile
Tales of the World
Riviera
Brave Story
Jeanne D'Arc
Monster Hunter Freedom 2
Final Fantasy Tactics
Castlevania
Street Fighter Alpha 3
Megaman Powered Up
Megaman Maverick Hunter X
Metal Slug Anthology
Gradius Collection
Armored Core: Formular Front
Breath of Fire 3
Wipeout Pure
Prodious Collection
DarkStalkers Cronicles: The Clock Tower

?




Fixed http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Shye
Dec 6, 2007, 07:23 AM
I want the bunny ear cast-hat.

-Ryuki-
Dec 6, 2007, 07:32 AM
Something doesn't seem right.

DS stands for Dual Screens, so you'd of course, but using two screens at a time. One of the main perks, and bear with me when I say this..

"Touching is good." The catch phrase for the DS, brought to you by Nintendo themselves =P

Hence, why there's "touching" of the touch pad.

Reipard
Dec 6, 2007, 07:49 AM
I don't know where you heard that, so I'll wait two weeks and see what size it is for sure. Theoretically, the DS should be able to read 4GB cards but that's at least a few years from becoming reality.

You're talking about the 1 GB thing or the dub thing? Because all of the trailers will show off the voice acting for the latter. As for the former, how else is the game going to be fully 3D AND fully voiced?

But regardless, I digress. PSP is going to be quite nice.

Sydz
Dec 6, 2007, 08:44 AM
http://rpgfan.com/news/2007/1391.html

Wow, maybe I should get a PSP now.

ShinMaruku
Dec 6, 2007, 10:47 AM
On 2007-12-04 22:33, Alisha wrote:
this is massive fail. im starting to think sony is forcing companies to make games for either psp or ps3.


WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
PSP is profitable, extremely so for them.
Sold more than the 360 and I see no bitching in that area. Hate is not good.
Where I live there's more PSP to DS and that's funny as hell.
On a serious note, I don't think they can force folks on the PS3 so much, PSP, hell yes they can it's a huge market for them and since Sony has three consoles out, don you think they more than anybody should be convincing people to make shit for their consoles? Really?




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ShinMaruku
Dec 6, 2007, 10:51 AM
On 2007-12-06 07:47, ShinMaruku wrote:

On 2007-12-04 22:33, Alisha wrote:
this is massive fail. im starting to think sony is forcing companies to make games for either psp or ps3.


WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
PSP is profitable, extremely so for them.
The install base is more than the 360. They just sold over a million of the PSP 2000 XD It makes money it is not a flop. Sure DS beat them, but has anybody else slpit the market in such a way? Nope.
Where I live there's more PSP to DS and that's funny as hell.
On a serious note, I don't think they can force folks on the PS3 so much, PSP, hell yes they can it's a huge market for them and since Sony has three consoles out, don you think they more than anybody should be convincing people to make shit for their consoles? Really?

xjustsumloser
Dec 6, 2007, 02:03 PM
only way i would pick up a PSP for this would be if they could meet the following conditions.

A. Near 100 dollar price point for the system, or package deal for 150.
B. Local Multiplayer with three of my friends over LAN.
C. My 3 best friends I play PSU with picked it up also.

Only way I would subscribe is if my 360 GL was accepted for this also.

I just see this as PSU, same maps and everything, just a new story mode. And I bet anything when sega runs out of content to drip to us that they will give this to us as "episode 4". I am pretty content with my PSU for 360 as of now thank you.

Reipard
Dec 6, 2007, 02:10 PM
A. Near 100 dollar price point for the system, or package deal for 150.

Simple, get a fat PSP.


B. Local Multiplayer with three of my friends over LAN.

Ad-Hoc is local multiplayer, but like, same room multiplayer. You can do online multiplayer with X-Link Kai but there is no official online mode.


C. My 3 best friends I play PSU with picked it up also.

Can't help this.


Only way I would subscribe is if my 360 GL was accepted for this also.

No subscription. Local multiplayer only.


I just see this as PSU, same maps and everything, just a new story mode. And I bet anything when sega runs out of content to drip to us that they will give this to us as "episode 4". I am pretty content with my PSU for 360 as of now thank you.

Very doubtful. Sonic Team isn't even developing this. Alfa Systems is.

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Raine_Loire
Dec 6, 2007, 02:31 PM
On 2007-12-05 22:23, RyukiZero wrote:
Those would be the only games you'd get for PSP? Whatever happened to the following titles:

Valkyrie Profile
Tales of the World
Riviera
Brave Story
Jeanne D'Arc
Monster Hunter Freedom 2
Final Fantasy Tactics
Castlevania

?



And you've just written my Christmas wish list for me!!!! (Ummm, these come after my #1, which is a PSP!)

14 pages for something that may not even make the US... wow...

princejake2
Dec 6, 2007, 02:53 PM
Riviera is kinda meh... I've got it on GBA and I had a really hard time getting into it.

Reipard
Dec 6, 2007, 07:33 PM
What is with the doubt that this will come to the US? Sega releases games for the PSP regularly and is making money off of PSU. To bring this to the US would not be a poor business decision, especially with how popular Monster Hunter Freedom (a similar game by Capcom) ended up being.

ChaosAngel92
Dec 6, 2007, 07:47 PM
for those who are wonderinh withc other game for PSP.

1 name.....

DISGAEA: Afternoon of Darkness

Callous
Dec 6, 2007, 08:10 PM
I wait what, 5 years for a portable PSO/U .. and there' s no online? What's the point?

bigtimer
Dec 6, 2007, 08:11 PM
lol it will be some kind of off brand card game http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif HOPE I GET THE CHAINSAWD MUAHAHAHAHA http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

level 128 cast that has bad atatude and a chainsawd weilding adiction http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

RayJai
Dec 6, 2007, 09:38 PM
On 2007-12-06 17:10, Callous wrote:
I wait what, 5 years for a portable PSO/U .. and there' s no online? What's the point?

zandra117
Dec 6, 2007, 09:48 PM
Finally a phantasy star multiplayer game not developed by sonicteam, maybe the gameplay wont fail this time. The current PSU fighting mechanics will most likely not work on PSP so we will probably get some awesome fighting system that just looks similar visually to psu but feels strategic like pso.



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Sinue_v2
Dec 6, 2007, 10:10 PM
Maybe, maybe not. Remember that Sonic Team still holds the reigns on the project and pretty much total control over the project. They're just farming out the leg-work. The storyline, art direction, additions (both to combat and other areas), music, etc, are either all going to be done by Sonic Team or under their approval.

So we'll just have to see how it turns out.

-Ryuki-
Dec 6, 2007, 10:36 PM
My solution to anyone complaining about the PSP prices.

Get a job.

Reipard
Dec 6, 2007, 10:42 PM
Maybe, maybe not. Remember that Sonic Team still holds the reigns on the project and pretty much total control over the project. They're just farming out the leg-work. The storyline, art direction, additions (both to combat and other areas), music, etc, are either all going to be done by Sonic Team or under their approval.

So we'll just have to see how it turns out.

Alfa Systems does very good leg work though. Have you seen Tales of the World and Tales of Innocence? They look and play amazing.

Nai_Calus
Dec 7, 2007, 12:58 AM
This thread is so fucking ridiculous.

Any other series getting a side game announced: "Sweet! Can't wait!"
PSU getting a side game announced: "Baaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww it's gunna suck bawwwwwwwwwww why PSP bawahhhhhhhassdfdf"

Just... Either be happy they're doing more games, or STFU about it. Christ. Can't you people be happy about ANYTHING even ONCE?

ShadowDragon28
Dec 7, 2007, 01:08 AM
The icy cold nether realm of Nifelheim must of turned into a warm sunny beach... I actually agree with Ian-KunX; usually I don't agree 99% of what he says in his(correction?: she ) posts....

wow.



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beatrixkiddo
Dec 7, 2007, 01:15 AM
It's not a he.

Nai_Calus
Dec 7, 2007, 02:40 AM
On 2007-12-06 22:08, ShadowDragon28 wrote:
The icy cold nether realm of Nifelheim must of turned into a warm sunny beach... I actually agree with Ian-KunX; usually I don't agree 99% of what he says in his(correction: he ) posts....

wow.


Fixed.

Also, there's a first time for everything. XP

Srsly tho. People need to stop whining about this. Either look forward to it or ignore it.

Beat: "It"? Yeah, cute. If you have a problem with me, take it to PM.

Soukosa
Dec 7, 2007, 02:41 AM
On 2007-12-06 22:08, ShadowDragon28 wrote:
his(correction?: she ) posts....

Since when was "Ian" a female name? Ian's a he, as a good friend of his I should know.



On 2007-12-06 22:15, beatrixkiddo wrote:
It's not a he.

Fun calling people names like that? Go back to your elitist weeaboo friends and quit being a jackass.

EJ
Dec 7, 2007, 03:12 AM
A PSO/U game for a portable sound interesting guess Sega is this time trying to get everything it can out of the Phantasy Star series. Either way I'm neither glad or disappointed since was never for it coming out on a portable. But let see how they do this one before any people judge it.

-Ryuki-
Dec 7, 2007, 04:04 AM
Lock the thread~ It's starting to get a little toasty in here.

Bomber The Cosmonaut
Dec 7, 2007, 04:20 AM
>> All the more reason to get a PSP.

Nai_Calus
Dec 7, 2007, 06:25 AM
Don't recall seeing the site mentioned, feel free to whack me with a fish if it has and I just didn't notice:

http://phantasystar.sega.jp/psp/

Kairi_Li
Dec 7, 2007, 07:41 AM
That background art on the site is sweet. Hope they have a wallpaper of it up later on.

Also, I realised even more why I want this game, cause since its runs on ADHOC and not server based, it means my fiance and I can potentially play together for a very long time. Cause we all know the PSU servers won't last forever, and who knows if private servers are possible when that time comes? At least with this game, I can play with for as long as I want, like PSO GC splitscreen.

That alone is reason enough for me to get it. So it damn well better come out in the US.

EspioKaos
Dec 7, 2007, 09:45 AM
On 2007-12-07 04:41, Kairi_Li wrote:
That background art on the site is sweet. Hope they have a wallpaper of it up later on.
Agreed! I love that picture!

From the screens they're showing on the site, we see there's one new boss in a place that looks like the caves from PSO. Oh, and it also says that Vivienne is a prototype CAST made by GRM. Hmm... I wonder how this piece of information will pan out as the story unfolds?

Miakyo
Dec 7, 2007, 09:49 AM
PSP only upsets me for one reason.

I bought mine the second it was released in Europe. Two weeks later my friend got drunk and put a giant hammer through it (true story).

Suffice to say he was running for his life that night.

But yeah, I'll probably re-invest in a PSP for this title. Presuming it gets globally released.

EspioKaos
Dec 7, 2007, 09:54 AM
On 2007-12-07 06:49, Miakyo wrote:
PSP only upsets me for one reason.

I bought mine the second it was released in Europe. Two weeks later my friend got drunk and put a giant hammer through it (true story).

Suffice to say he was running for his life that night.

But yeah, I'll probably re-invest in a PSP for this title. Presuming it gets globally released.

I'd make my friend reinvest in a PSP for me if I were you. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

Miakyo
Dec 7, 2007, 09:58 AM
On 2007-12-07 06:54, EspioKaos wrote:
I'd make my friend reinvest in a PSP for me if I were you. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

Haha, I should have really. Only he hasn't been working for years. I gave him the sympathy vote.

Although I do remind he consistently about the night he destroyed it. XD

I'll get some sort of compensation.

Sorry for going off topic by the way. =P

doubleEXP
Dec 7, 2007, 10:11 AM
You know, I almost bought AotI last night.

Three things stopped me.

1. I remembered how badly PSU runs on my PC, despite the fact that WoW runs at 60+ fps on my pc at 1280 x 1024, with anti-aliasing, at max settings. On that same PC PSU needs to drop to 800 x600 to run at near-max settings at 60fps and the aliasing is horrible. So, I was actually considering a state of the art graphics card to overcome this. But that would set me back almost $300 and I don't otherwise need a better card right now. After all, my current card was brand-new last year and ~ except for PSU ~ runs all my games awesome.

2. The two stores I went to last night (Circuit City and Best Buy) don't even carry it! I couldn't believe that. AotI just came out, what, two weeks ago? They not only didn't have it on shelf, the clerks hadn't even heard of it.

3. I recently got a good DC emu and started playing PSO again, which still runs great after all these years and is still fun to me for when I need to get that PSO fix.

If this PSP version actually runs well and has a robust single-player mode, I'm interested. It may be the only way I end up playing PSU.

After the masteful job ST did on PSO for DC and GC, its hard to understand how the current flag-carrier of the franchise can be laggy on every platform it runs on (ps2, pc, x360)... unless you have an absolute state of the art pc or are willing to play at sub-standard settings. =/

Shye
Dec 7, 2007, 10:35 AM
On 2007-12-07 03:25, Ian-KunX wrote:
Don't recall seeing the site mentioned, feel free to whack me with a fish if it has and I just didn't notice:

http://phantasystar.sega.jp/psp/



Yay! Thanks. I hadn't seen any actual in-game screenshots yet. If it runs as smooth as it looks it should be pretty spiffy.

Alpha-Hunter
Dec 7, 2007, 10:44 AM
best news ever! this wa talked about a little after the PSP came out. glad they made it happen! My 1st gen fatty PSP will enjoy this.

Dragon_Knight
Dec 7, 2007, 11:16 AM
doubleEXP- Actualy I had issuses with PSO BB on my comp. Not only did it suck out all the resorces of a one year old comp but it could NEVER be played on mine at anything greater then a 600x400 with frame skip 1. My comp at least doubled the minimum specs at the time. So Sega just can't make a non-wasteful program.

-Tidus_415-
Dec 7, 2007, 11:24 AM
WTF is this?

http://phantasystar.sega.jp/psp/image/ss/ss_l_09.jpg

Edit - Now that I think about it...It kinda looks like Gal Gryphon from EP2.

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pikachief
Dec 7, 2007, 11:34 AM
i was actually just about to ask that XD

EspioKaos
Dec 7, 2007, 11:35 AM
That's the new boss I mentioned earlier. A name has not been revealed for it yet, however.

BigBadWolf
Dec 7, 2007, 12:00 PM
Phantasy Star Portable + Wifi Max = Phantasy Star Universe

WITH NO MONTHLY FEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

doubleEXP
Dec 7, 2007, 01:42 PM
double post - from double exp - sorry!

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doubleEXP
Dec 7, 2007, 01:47 PM
On 2007-12-07 08:16, Dragon_Knight wrote:
doubleEXP- Actualy I had issuses with PSO BB on my comp. Not only did it suck out all the resorces of a one year old comp but it could NEVER be played on mine at anything greater then a 600x400 with frame skip 1. My comp at least doubled the minimum specs at the time. So Sega just can't make a non-wasteful program.



Hmm, sorry to hear that. I can't remember how PSO BB ran on my pc. I only played the beta. I think it ran okay, but I prolly had to put in frame skipping also.

Hmm, while we're talking about portables, now that PSO BB is about to go extinct (I think I heard the servers are to be shut down next March) it would be AWESOME if they made a master PSO compilation for a portable that had Episodes I, II & IV, every quest ever offered online, options that let you play the Yahoo Cup (and other special events) all over again, C-mode, B-mode, everything. Even options to trigger holiday events. Just put EVERYTHING PSO ever had into one title, with online (or wi-fi) play plus full offline single player play.

I'd prolly play that, on and off, until the day I died. XP

Or at least until the day (if it ever comes) that PSO 2 comes out. Which, now that I'm rambling, I think it would be cool if PSO 2 was actually a prequel to PSO. We could play hunters from Pioneer 1 and actually adventure with Red Ring Rico. We could explore areas of Ragol we never saw in I & II (& IV). Just fix PSO (for 2) so you don't have to stop to fight, better bump collision on the edges of the walkable areas, more mags, more items, make at least 10 full fledged, multi-board areas, with 10 UNIQUE bosses, and it would bring back EVERYONE that played PSO plus a ton of new people, I bet, who are sick and tired of boring old mmorpg's.

*continues dreaming*






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ShinMaruku
Dec 7, 2007, 01:55 PM
Since ST ain't doing the code, it could actually run better than PSU and be a point to make them change coders and programmers.

Reipard
Dec 7, 2007, 01:56 PM
Unfortunately, I think the existence of That Server is something of a deterrent to releasing any more ports of PSO :. It's hard to compete with free.


Since ST ain't doing the code, it could actually run better than PSU and be a point to make them change coders and programmers.

Alfa Systems does some amazing work. If there's a group that could port PSU as is, graphics nearly intact, to -DS- it would be them. This goes to show how much faith I have in them to make PSU shine on the PSP.

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Helly
Dec 7, 2007, 02:05 PM
On 2007-12-06 19:36, RyukiZero wrote:
My solution to anyone complaining about the PSP prices.

Get a job.

I do got one how do ya think I got a PS3? ^_^; But $170 is just to steep for a handheld. Sheesh I refused to get a DS for well over a year until I could get one for $100!


On 2007-12-07 03:25, Ian-KunX wrote:
Don't recall seeing the site mentioned, feel free to whack me with a fish if it has and I just didn't notice:

Thanks! I love how the onscreen map/other information is pushed even closer to the edges thus taking up abit less space. Wish current PSU did that!


On 2007-12-07 08:24, -Tidus_415- wrote:
WTF is this?

http://phantasystar.sega.jp/psp/image/ss/ss_l_09.jpg

Edit - Now that I think about it...It kinda looks like Gal Gryphon from EP2.

Another ugly boss? Not that I'd wanna beat up a cute one! I just hope its not De Ragan reskin #D2028!


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MrPOW
Dec 7, 2007, 02:06 PM
On 2007-12-07 08:24, -Tidus_415- wrote:
WTF is this?

http://phantasystar.sega.jp/psp/image/ss/ss_l_09.jpg

Edit - Now that I think about it...It kinda looks like Gal Gryphon from EP2.

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Holy crap that looks awesome.

DarK-SuN
Dec 7, 2007, 02:53 PM
Oh... My... God...
I have died and went to heaven, a Phantasy Star game for the PSP... PSU+AOI in a single package no less, to make it even better!
*bows*

ShinMaruku
Dec 7, 2007, 03:07 PM
I'm gonna beat that bosses ass.

-Ryuki-
Dec 7, 2007, 03:50 PM
It apparently looks like a reskin of a De Ragan. I like it, but we need new AI.

Zorafim
Dec 7, 2007, 03:53 PM
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b77/Zorafin/PSU%20junk/bg_main.jpg

Oh sure, it's easy for them to do it. But when we try to get that face?

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Rayokarna
Dec 7, 2007, 05:32 PM
Graphics have been toned down a bit but I dont care, as long as it hhas AOI Offline classes and all weapons available Im gonna get it.

Kufell
Dec 7, 2007, 06:35 PM
Makes me wonder why they didnt include local play for the other versions..

zandra117
Dec 7, 2007, 07:42 PM
It appears that gameblogs and game news sites have gotten word of phantasy star portable. But it seems that every news site besides ign is intent on creating a bawwfest by spreading misleading assumptions.

"This week's Famitsu reports that Sega will be releasing Phantasy Star Portable for PSP, which will for all intents and purposes be a port of the single-player campaign."

"Sega Brings Worst of Phantasy Star Universe to PSP"

"Phantasy Star Portable is a port of last year's Phantasy Star Universe for Xbox 360, PS2, and PC without the online stuff."

"Uninformed Baaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwww"

To me it doesnt look like a port at all, only the graphics are similar. I dont think theres enough controlls on the psp for it to use PSU's combat system. It would probably be more like PSO's movement and lock on system with PSU attacks. plus sonicteam isn't developing it.

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Kairi_Li
Dec 7, 2007, 08:15 PM
On 2007-12-07 12:53, Zorafim wrote:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b77/Zorafin/PSU%20junk/bg_main.jpg

Oh sure, it's easy for them to do it. But when we try to get that face?

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I think several of the faces in the art are the prototype characters you get when you start character creation. So, if you want that face, you just leave it as it is when you make a Nueman.

XCOPY
Dec 7, 2007, 10:00 PM
a portable Phantasy Star is awesome news to me....this just further proves PSP supremacy, imo (*a PSO or PSU on DS would be a travesty, considering that system's limitations and the tendency to force stylus use so damn much..) I will be all over this for sure, even though I haven't played console PSU since the 1st quarter of 2007 http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

majik73_2007
Dec 7, 2007, 10:17 PM
I found a website that has recieved some pics from SEGA for this game check it out.

http://forums.exophase.com/showthread.php?t=4766

Rayokarna
Dec 8, 2007, 02:23 AM
On 2007-12-07 16:42, zandra117 wrote:
It appears that gameblogs and game news sites have gotten word of phantasy star portable. But it seems that every news site besides ign is intent on creating a bawwfest by spreading misleading assumptions.

"This week's Famitsu reports that Sega will be releasing Phantasy Star Portable for PSP, which will for all intents and purposes be a port of the single-player campaign."

"Sega Brings Worst of Phantasy Star Universe to PSP"

"Phantasy Star Portable is a port of last year's Phantasy Star Universe for Xbox 360, PS2, and PC without the online stuff."

"Uninformed Baaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwww"

To me it doesnt look like a port at all, only the graphics are similar. I dont think theres enough controlls on the psp for it to use PSU's combat system. It would probably be more like PSO's movement and lock on system with PSU attacks. plus sonicteam isn't developing it.

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I think their is enough controls...

X) Pick up stuff
Square) Basic attack
Triangle) PA Attack
Circle) Reset Camera angle
R) Left handed weapon
L) Strife/Lock on
Directional Buttons) Move Camera angle
An. Stick) Move character.

That should work.

Zorafim
Dec 8, 2007, 02:27 AM
On 2007-12-07 17:15, Kairi_Li wrote:
I think several of the faces in the art are the prototype characters you get when you start character creation. So, if you want that face, you just leave it as it is when you make a Nueman.



They're all the prototype characters, but their faces are different. But the newman face looks nothing like that. It looks much more like this. (http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b77/Zorafin/PSU%20junk/psu20071208_053603_000.jpg)

Puppet_Papaya
Dec 8, 2007, 07:55 AM
I can't believe the PSP version gets a new boss while the console versions only got one new boss in the expansion! De Rol Le is cool and everything, but is it too much to ask for more that ONE new boss in the expansion?

MushiKuro
Dec 8, 2007, 08:04 AM
I want to play it *o*

See ya!

X.X

zandra117
Dec 8, 2007, 08:58 PM
On 2007-12-08 04:55, Puppet_Papaya wrote:
I can't believe the PSP version gets a new boss while the console versions only got one new boss in the expansion! De Rol Le is cool and everything, but is it too much to ask for more that ONE new boss in the expansion?



Umm... theres also Alterazgoug, and Motherbrain, and at least 2 other currently unknown bosses in AOTI.

Zorafim
Dec 8, 2007, 09:07 PM
Right, that's what he said. One new boss.

Though, using that argument, that lava dragon is just a De Ragan reskin, and doesn't count either...

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