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pikachief
Dec 11, 2007, 07:59 AM
My friend wants to delete his lvl 110 female human FT to make a newman so he can do the most damage as FT.

Is it really worth lvling up all over again? does anyone have the stats for both race/class combinations as lvl 110? or 100?

FnalKnight
Dec 11, 2007, 08:01 AM
Um, Start a new character instead of deleting the old one? Change the human to an Acro or something.

milka
Dec 11, 2007, 08:02 AM
If I could turn back time I would do female human FT.

CelestialBlade
Dec 11, 2007, 08:04 AM
Not at all worth it. People act like the racial difference is like 734578934698534 damage per shot.

I mean, if he's a min/maxer then yeah I guess, but I wouldn't do it. You won't gain that much.

pikachief
Dec 11, 2007, 08:04 AM
i dont want him to remake it, so if u could give e reasons to tell him y he shouldn't please tell me XD

and hes not gonna play AT i already tried convincing him and he says no.

u_r
Dec 11, 2007, 08:04 AM
your friend is crazy to delete a 110 lol

here is a link, see for yourself http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

http://www.amesani.org/psu/enbeta/charstatus/calc.php?

Micro
Dec 11, 2007, 08:06 AM
I wouldn't bother, if anything do what FnalKnight suggested, keep the 110, change classes and transfer PA's. No point in erasing everything.

pikachief
Dec 11, 2007, 08:06 AM
On 2007-12-11 05:04, u_r wrote:
your friend is crazy to delete a 110 lol

here is a link, see for yourself http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

http://www.amesani.org/psu/enbeta/charstatus/calc.php?





yea he'll do it for sure. its a bigger boost than we thought XD

thats about a 300tp boost from human to newman http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

oh and i did convince him to delete another character and to just make a second FT for now to see if it was worth it http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

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u_r
Dec 11, 2007, 08:10 AM
yes but them 300tp add's maybe 100-300 damage max @ 110 / 15, I don't think its worth it personally.. then again, I am making a newman just for the sake of being a FT when I already have a human over lv 100.. so maybe it is a good choice

IF he does delete a 110 just for the sake of this, remind him to put all his PA's to disc then wack em to his new char so he doesnt have to lv them again haha + he will lv alot faster due to the uber damage output he will be doing @ lv 1

u_r
Dec 11, 2007, 08:11 AM
OOH EM GEE DELETE (QUADUPLE POST)

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Chaosgyro
Dec 11, 2007, 08:11 AM
Using that calculator, the TP difference at 110 and job level 15 is only about 300 in favor of newman. I doubt the difference in damage over time will be more than a percent or two. The newman also has roughly 500 less HP, which makes a squishy character even squishier. Can't cast at all when you're dead.

u_r
Dec 11, 2007, 08:12 AM
yes but them 300tp add's maybe 100-300 damage max @ 110 / 15, I don't think its worth it personally.. then again, I am making a newman just for the sake of being a FT when I already have a human over lv 100.. so maybe it is a good choice

IF he does delete a 110 just for the sake of this, remind him to put all his PA's to disc then wack em to his new char so he doesnt have to lv them again haha + he will lv alot faster due to the uber damage output he will be doing @ lv 1

FnalKnight
Dec 11, 2007, 08:13 AM
Sure he can make a new character and that's fine, especially with a maxed character but deleting it is just dumb. You can have four characters and there is no additional monthly feel, his Human can change his/her class and be fine. Besides the level 110 can be used to get things easier for his new character, put it in the common box and work that way. He's not rational. I would kill for a level 110 character no matter was race it was.

physic
Dec 11, 2007, 08:13 AM
yeah but 300 tp doesnt ranslate into as huge a boost in spells as one would think, supposedly its less than atp. best idea is not to delete but to make another. keep in mind also that human is the second best tp, so theres only one class with more

u_r
Dec 11, 2007, 08:14 AM
OOH EM GEE DELETE (QUADUPLE POST)


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Jarek
Dec 11, 2007, 08:15 AM
Here's a question: If he cares so much about max tech damage, why didn't he go newman from the start?
My F human is 104 or so, and I've always felt fine. I definitely wouldn't start all over again.

FnalKnight
Dec 11, 2007, 08:16 AM
Sure he can make a new character and that's fine, especially with a maxed character but deleting it is just dumb. You can have four characters and there is no additional monthly feel, his Human can change his/her class and be fine. Besides the level 110 can be used to get things easier for his new character, put it in the common box and work that way. He's not rational. I would kill for a level 110 character no matter was race it was.

RemiusTA
Dec 11, 2007, 08:16 AM
On 2007-12-11 05:04, Typheros wrote:
Not at all worth it. People act like the racial difference is like 734578934698534 damage per shot.

I mean, if he's a min/maxer then yeah I guess, but I wouldn't do it. You won't gain that much.



Qft. You'll be gaining alot of TP but your mortality will drop on such a curve that its not worth it by time time your 110.

FnalKnight
Dec 11, 2007, 08:19 AM
Why in the world did I double post? I only hit submit once, and it took three minutes to post.

u_r
Dec 11, 2007, 08:22 AM
LOLZ this forum is on a suxxy server me thinks..

anyway, this topic has made me think alot about if I should continue to make my newman for a FT or just turn my human into one.. lam3 I say..

I'm still gona do it just because its my first female char, and i wana see how many guys I can get flirting with me thinking I'm a girl lol

CelestialBlade
Dec 11, 2007, 09:00 AM
300TP is not worth what you lose in HP and DFP. There's something to be said for Human Fortetechers.

Gen2000
Dec 11, 2007, 09:33 AM
If that stat calculator is right (I heard it wasn't) then 110/15 F Human FT is basically like using a lv.80ish/15 F Newman FT in terms of TP power.

In a game where tech damage is currently the lowest form of damage output you'll want the most TP possible if you prefer killing things with techs and your friend said it himself he wants to do the more damage as FT but deleting a lv.110 character is a bit extreme. Just PA disk save and make a newman in another slot if he actually cares that much.

With the exp boost starting over isn't that bad compared earlier days but its something I still wouldn't do and a big waste of time imo. That 110 Human can be any class besides FT easily. Just make the Human a Fortefighter. The FF gets all the rarz without much effort and donates them to the new upcoming FT if need be. Win/win.

Shiro_Ryuu
Dec 11, 2007, 10:51 AM
Well, I thought that FTs of all races had their HP really foyed up badly anyway, regardless of race. But yeah, don't delete that lv 110/15 Human, just make a Newman alt and make that a FT if she's into stats. But yeah, Human can do any job just fine, that's why they're the best job ever.

MetalIdol876
Dec 11, 2007, 10:54 AM
On 2007-12-11 06:33, Gen2000 wrote:
If that stat calculator is right (I heard it wasn't) then 110/15 F Human FT is basically like using a lv.80ish/15 F Newman FT in terms of TP power.

When you cap your class and get past the level 80 mark you see gains in your classes specialty of 2-5's. I could've sworn I saw someone with a screencap as a fT getting only 2 tp at level 99. It's still about 200-300 TP difference. Just get a TECH unit and you'll be fine.

By the time your slow moving Diga gets near the mob he's dead anyway. Highest TP only really benefits you when you solo, and that's nothing to brag about. Last I checked PSU was a party game.

Raine_Loire
Dec 11, 2007, 12:59 PM
On 2007-12-11 05:22, u_r wrote:
i wana see how many guys I can get flirting with me thinking I'm a girl lol



... I can give you some names... guys who bought me stuff the minute they found out I was a chick. I don't take it though, I always decline unsolicited trades ;p

Topic: I really can't imagine anything being worth starting at level 1 all over again, and I can't even seem to hit 55!!!!!