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MasterD
Dec 14, 2007, 01:32 PM
YO Sega! Go ahead and do a roll back but give us some gold coins at the casino for this and we will just overlook this!

Laranas
Dec 14, 2007, 01:33 PM
I don't see the "Umm... no?" option on this poll.

Abarai-Renji
Dec 14, 2007, 01:34 PM
i don't see the "don't care" option either.

Ken_Silver
Dec 14, 2007, 01:37 PM
On a serious note, I heard that the last rollback that happened on the 360 servers did come with some kind of reward. I don't know much about that one being a PC player and all, but if there is some similarities in each scenario, then we might just get back something because of lost time. Just food for thought.

AmyPsycho
Dec 14, 2007, 01:38 PM
oo... i'd be happy with gold coins

MUDGRIP
Dec 14, 2007, 01:40 PM
ID BE HAPPY IF WE STARTED MEASURING SKULLS!!! GOOD LUCK!

Laranas
Dec 14, 2007, 01:40 PM
On 2007-12-14 10:37, Ken_Silver wrote:
On a serious note, I heard that the last rollback that happened on the 360 servers did come with some kind of reward. I don't know much about that one being a PC player and all, but if there is some similarities in each scenario, then we might just get back something because of lost time. Just food for thought.

It came with an extra week of 1Up rewards, iirc.

Gunslinger-08
Dec 14, 2007, 01:40 PM
i'd like a week of more common rare maps or a Christmas Tree for the room

DarkShadowX
Dec 14, 2007, 01:41 PM
On 2007-12-14 10:37, Ken_Silver wrote:
On a serious note, I heard that the last rollback that happened on the 360 servers did come with some kind of reward. I don't know much about that one being a PC player and all, but if there is some similarities in each scenario, then we might just get back something because of lost time. Just food for thought.



The last rollback 360 got gave them as well as the PC/PS2 servers an extra week of 1UP rewards. They may extend it another week cause of the rollback, but thats just my opinion as well as wishful thinking.

u_r
Dec 14, 2007, 01:41 PM
I'd be happy with them to allow me to keep my blackhearts to show to a friend later, let him cry and beg me for one, then they can roll back http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

LadyDizzy
Dec 14, 2007, 01:41 PM
Gold coins would be nice

Chuck_Norris
Dec 14, 2007, 01:43 PM
GIB 2 MOAR WEAKZ OF 1UP NAO!!1!1one!!1

Laranas
Dec 14, 2007, 01:44 PM
Well if you are all going to be wishful, I'm hoping for the release of the 9* Whip. Give us WTs some more toys to play with.
http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

February
Dec 14, 2007, 01:44 PM
Thats honestly all I can see them doing for us. I'd be fine with it though.

ljkkjlcm9
Dec 14, 2007, 01:45 PM
lol, a roll back, couldn't they just rollback like, the past day or two? It really isn't that big of a deal

THE JACKEL

mooonbow
Dec 14, 2007, 01:45 PM
another roll back......guess im loosing those 5 har / quicks i found

Costa
Dec 14, 2007, 01:45 PM
We'd bloody better be compensated for this. It was their error, not ours, and if we have to pay for it, we'd best be reimbursed.

Hokokaru
Dec 14, 2007, 01:46 PM
gold coin!! forget gold luck I want 4 chainsawds!!

MUDGRIP
Dec 14, 2007, 01:49 PM
On 2007-12-14 10:45, mooonbow wrote:
another roll back......guess im loosing those 5 har / quicks i found

!LLUKS RUOY HSAMS OT GNIOG MI

Talos
Dec 14, 2007, 01:50 PM
Crud, there goes my Christmas Trees. I was wondering why I keep seeing Rappy Noels.

Ken_Silver
Dec 14, 2007, 01:51 PM
lol, let's just see how ST deals with this. I'm interested in seeing what actually happens. Gold coins are nice, but only if I can use them to get a rare for a WT, if not, give me some meseta so I can buy things.

MUDGRIP
Dec 14, 2007, 01:52 PM
Ive been hearing rumors from the top that they're discussing a possible new content update including....guees this....a new planet called KUBARIC...filled with kubaralike monsterics!

Raine_Loire
Dec 14, 2007, 01:52 PM
where's the option for "why bother to choose anything, it's not like sega gives a crap what we want anyway?" And the button for "I'm Japanese and I want ________" so Sega would read it maybe?

ZodiacNKnight
Dec 14, 2007, 01:53 PM
I don't think they should really give us anything.
If they give everyone a gold coin it would just ruin the value of casino items.

AmyPsycho
Dec 14, 2007, 01:53 PM
oooh... actually I might even like the idea of Meseta better. Im not sure. You might be able to get things more valuable with gold coins tho.

RedMussel
Dec 14, 2007, 01:56 PM
All we ever want is more
A lot more than we had before
So take us to the nearest debug mission
Can you see it drop
It makes you wanna sing
It's such a beautiful thing--Ka-ching!
Lots of rares we seen
We'll live like a king
With lots of rares and things

Thats how i see it with most people.

ljkkjlcm9
Dec 14, 2007, 01:58 PM
there should be nothing giving to us
I mean seriously, anyone who did the mission and expected to keep stuff... lmao

THE JACKEL

MUDGRIP
Dec 14, 2007, 02:02 PM
MY JAW IS FLAPPEN IN THE WIND CAN ANYONE GET SOME SILLY PUDDY TO CLAMP IT BACK TOGETHER?

MasterD
Dec 14, 2007, 02:02 PM
Yeah I vote for Gold coins because we did alot of work and we pay almost 20 dollars a month 7.99 for xbox 10 for PSO please GMs or Moderators Give us at least 10gold for the casino to last I loose my silver in seconds everyday and Im tired of three star luck I dont get very good stuff like carriguine blades I just get vulcaline!

_Vyser_
Dec 14, 2007, 02:05 PM
Where was this mission? I didn't find it on my quest today <_<

Broodstar1337
Dec 14, 2007, 02:07 PM
I would've liked no rollback at all, but so long as we get compensation for it, I won't care for much longer anyway.

Broodstar1337
Dec 14, 2007, 02:08 PM
On 2007-12-14 10:41, DarkShadowX wrote:

On 2007-12-14 10:37, Ken_Silver wrote:
On a serious note, I heard that the last rollback that happened on the 360 servers did come with some kind of reward. I don't know much about that one being a PC player and all, but if there is some similarities in each scenario, then we might just get back something because of lost time. Just food for thought.



The last rollback 360 got gave them as well as the PC/PS2 servers an extra week of 1UP rewards. They may extend it another week cause of the rollback, but thats just my opinion as well as wishful thinking.



They probably won't give us another week of 1up rewards simply because PC/PS2 is already finished with their reward period.

Kylie
Dec 14, 2007, 02:19 PM
Gold coins would be nice, but I really don't care either way.

Talos
Dec 14, 2007, 02:27 PM
Actually, I just read about it on a different post, and I got a question. I found the mentioned Christmas Trees in Scarred Planet, the first mission(forgot name) before the Lightning Beasts mission. Will I still get to keep my Trees, or are they considered gone?

Kishin
Dec 14, 2007, 02:28 PM
On 2007-12-14 10:45, Costa wrote:
We'd bloody better be compensated for this. It was their error, not ours, and if we have to pay for it, we'd best be reimbursed.


Yeah was SEGA error, but noobs went in that mission too, I would love if they ban everyone enter in that missions,they deserve it cause they dont know what play legit means. And no excuse like "I though was a xmas mission", you know sega dont give rare easy.
I know they dont ban anyone, but I will make a party if they do. P L A Y L E G I T or you're a noob or better a loser. And SEGA... now, who pay my boards and stuff got today? (of course they dont care even if you have a log .txt) -.-

ErtaiClou
Dec 14, 2007, 02:47 PM
On 2007-12-14 10:43, Chuck_Norris wrote:
GIB 2 MOAR WEAKZ OF 1UP NAO!!1!1one!!1

GIB CHUCK NORRIS AXE NAO D:

majan
Dec 14, 2007, 02:50 PM
sega of america gives less than a fuck about us. do not expect this poll to make it very far,though I agree,and Im sure well see some sort of compensation out of this because its bullshit that the second huge content update-gameplay adjustment patch they did has completely unlocked pandorra's box.

Raine_Loire
Dec 14, 2007, 02:51 PM
On 2007-12-14 11:28, Kishin wrote:

On 2007-12-14 10:45, Costa wrote:
We'd bloody better be compensated for this. It was their error, not ours, and if we have to pay for it, we'd best be reimbursed.


Yeah was SEGA error, but noobs went in that mission too, I would love if they ban everyone enter in that missions,they deserve it cause they dont know what play legit means. And no excuse like "I though was a xmas mission", you know sega dont give rare easy.
I know they dont ban anyone, but I will make a party if they do. P L A Y L E G I T or you're a noob or better a loser. And SEGA... now, who pay my boards and stuff got today? (of course they dont care even if you have a log .txt) -.-



How is running a joke mission not playing legit? I mean even though everyone HATES the rollback, I have yet to see one person who got anything from that mission that didn't think it was coming.

And IMO this wasn't really an EXPLOIT exactly, it was an actual available mission, available to everyone, the same as the other 2 new missions... but different with all the blankness and rare mobs. Sega wouldn't really have grounds to ban for it.

Schubalts
Dec 14, 2007, 02:57 PM
On 2007-12-14 11:02, MasterD wrote:
Yeah I vote for Gold coins because we did alot of work and we pay almost 20 dollars a month 7.99 for xbox 10 for PSO please GMs or Moderators Give us at least 10gold for the casino to last I loose my silver in seconds everyday and Im tired of three star luck I dont get very good stuff like carriguine blades I just get vulcaline!




You don't need Xbox Live Gold to play PSU.

ErtaiClou
Dec 14, 2007, 02:59 PM
Honestly, it wasn't like people hacked into the room. You can't penalize the customers. If you leave a cookie on the counter and a few hours later it's covered in ants whose fault is it really?



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Raine_Loire
Dec 14, 2007, 03:03 PM
On 2007-12-14 11:59, ErtaiClou wrote:
Honestly, it wasn't like people hacked into the room. You can't penalize the customers. If you leave a cookie on the counter and a few hours later it's covered in ants whose fault is it really?



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Obviously you need to remove the cookie, then bring all the ants to the Dr to have their stomachs pumped... Must... remove... all... traces... But there would of course be the ants who DIDN'T eat the cookie who are upset about having their stomachs pumped and want the other ants kicked out of the hill... And they all want to be given one of those root beer candies to make up for the food they lost (cookie or otherwise).

Kishin
Dec 14, 2007, 03:07 PM
You know what, who enter in that mission, know was full of rare monsters, and they drop to the rare items, now tell me, is legit go inside kill easy rare mobs, and get easy rare items too? If this is legit... you need to start think, every bug in the game, and every people use bug in the game for own benefith, are just a loser and dont play legit.
They need to be banned for me, but, I know SEGA will not ban. I repeat, P L A Y L E G I T.
And if was legit, SEGA allow to keep the items...
Anyway Im mad with SEGA too, not only with that noobs enter in that TEST missions.
Why we legit player must pay for SEGA error?

White_Mage
Dec 14, 2007, 03:13 PM
they should give us all dagger of serafi boards or made >.>

Zorafim
Dec 14, 2007, 03:17 PM
Well, I'm glad I'm a late sleeper. I missed all the commotion. I'll take it the servers aren't up?

Raine_Loire
Dec 14, 2007, 03:21 PM
The mission was fun, and it was very helpful in mapping drops for monsters I would never otherwise have beaten that many of. there were people who went in the mission and did not pick up any items, and as I said before most people knew it would be rolled back so they just went in to have fun. It was not a bug in the game, like getting inside a wall so you can hit but not be hit, it was just an open mission that had rappies, jaggos and those big guys that I can't remember their names. They weren't EASY mobs, they were normal for their level, and the drops also were level appropriate.

The machine gun glitch? Using that to get through levels faster is an exploit. I certainly wouldn't call people who do that losers though- mostly because I try to avoid anonymous name calling labeling a whole group of people that I don't know.

If people had had to hack to get into that level, I could see saying they don't play legit. But if Sega made an announcement and said "We're leaving this mission open for 2 days and closing it, and we're allowing players to keep their levels, items, and meseta gained from it" everyone would have been playing it. would you have been standing outside the door calling people losers while they partied up? But ST went the other way, pulled the mission and are pulling the items and exp off the characters. So everyone who played that mission will lose their stuff, and playing it didn't benefit them anyway. No one tried to hide it, it wasn't a secret, and nobody profited off it. Sooo... not a determining factor in whether someone plays legit or not.

Honestly, I wonder why anyone would have bothered playing legitimately after hearing about this mission? You knew one of 2 things would happen- 1) people who played the mission would have mad rares you wouldn't have when ST closed it, if they let everyone keep their stuff or 2) there would be a roll back and everything you did that day legitimately or not would be for nothing. Either way, you lose.

kissablepimp
Dec 14, 2007, 03:29 PM
We should not pay for ST's mistakes!

Pikku
Dec 14, 2007, 03:36 PM
I rather no rollback than Gold Coins... I already got my Chainsawd and theres nothing else in that Casino I want so itll be useless...
No Roll Back and let me keep my mp and exp and what not.

Kishin
Dec 14, 2007, 03:37 PM
On 2007-12-14 12:21, Raine_Loire wrote:
The mission was fun, and it was very helpful in mapping drops for monsters I would never otherwise have beaten that many of. there were people who went in the mission and did not pick up any items, and as I said before most people knew it would be rolled back so they just went in to have fun. It was not a bug in the game, like getting inside a wall so you can hit but not be hit, it was just an open mission that had rappies, jaggos and those big guys that I can't remember their names. They weren't EASY mobs, they were normal for their level, and the drops also were level appropriate.

The machine gun glitch? Using that to get through levels faster is an exploit. I certainly wouldn't call people who do that losers though- mostly because I try to avoid anonymous name calling labeling a whole group of people that I don't know.

If people had had to hack to get into that level, I could see saying they don't play legit. But if Sega made an announcement and said "We're leaving this mission open for 2 days and closing it, and we're allowing players to keep their levels, items, and meseta gained from it" everyone would have been playing it. would you have been standing outside the door calling people losers while they partied up? But ST went the other way, pulled the mission and are pulling the items and exp off the characters. So everyone who played that mission will lose their stuff, and playing it didn't benefit them anyway. No one tried to hide it, it wasn't a secret, and nobody profited off it. Sooo... not a determining factor in whether someone plays legit or not.

Honestly, I wonder why anyone would have bothered playing legitimately after hearing about this mission? You knew one of 2 things would happen- 1) people who played the mission would have mad rares you wouldn't have when ST closed it, if they let everyone keep their stuff or 2) there would be a roll back and everything you did that day legitimately or not would be for nothing. Either way, you lose.


Ahaha you forgot the third option
3) You made that mission too and now are you crying like a noob for dont keep that stuff.
If SEGA had release that mission legit for all player, for me was ok, this mean was a legit way for get some rare, but since wasn't, people have abuse that mission for get items. And, how can you know people join that mission "ONLY" for fun?Oh well I dont like argue in the forums, specially with noobs like you. Ty.

addictedtopsu
Dec 14, 2007, 03:39 PM
I was wondering since i've only been playing online for about a week now will I have to start over if they do the roll back thing?? I wouldn't care if I had to start over, but it would be kinda hard to start over.

Pikku
Dec 14, 2007, 03:41 PM
The rollback would be up to last night only...

Kishin
Dec 14, 2007, 03:42 PM
On 2007-12-14 12:39, addictedtopsu wrote:
I was wondering since i've only been playing online for about a week now will I have to start over if they do the roll back thing?? I wouldn't care if I had to start over, but it would be kinda hard to start over.


No they reset only the data of today, so dont worry http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
But if today you have level or found something, well you lose it.

addictedtopsu
Dec 14, 2007, 03:46 PM
Really well that kinda stinks because I leveled and found something really good today. I forgot what it was, but I remember it was for synthisising a weapon.

EMPYREAN
Dec 14, 2007, 03:47 PM
no rollback. went up 2 LVs on this thing, now im gonna loose it =/

unis_ascele
Dec 14, 2007, 03:47 PM
they just stated that there is no news concerning a rollback. now weather one happens or not is something we will have to wait and see

Pikku
Dec 14, 2007, 03:48 PM
If its something silly like a Olpad or Kerseline or something... dont worry, Goldiana,Catilium, etc? Then yeah it would stink.

addictedtopsu
Dec 14, 2007, 03:51 PM
I think it was called a relic edge. 11* synthisis item to make a crea double (which I want now). So its gonna be kinda hard to make the crea double now with out it. Well I couldn't make it anyway since I don't have the crea double synthisis board.

Kishin
Dec 14, 2007, 03:52 PM
MMM I read a post of clums it said this:
It has come to our attention that a rare enemy mission has been added to the live servers. We are now aware of the problem and will be working to resolve it.

The likely result will be a rollback across all servers and another maintenance within the day. For those unaware of what a rollback means, expect all progress from the time maintenance ended until the rollback occurs will be effectively deleted.

More details will be posted when available.

and:

Hey everyone,

Thanks so much for your patience during this time. We have started verifying the server changes on our end for the Xbox 360 servers and will move to PS2/PC when complete.

There is no news concerning a rollback at this time.

We will update when we have more information. Thanks again for your patience.

Lets wait and hope.

DoubleJG
Dec 14, 2007, 03:54 PM
This poll fails hardcore.

Where is the option, "Remove the obtained items if possible, if not, just do the rollback since it's for the better."?

majan
Dec 14, 2007, 03:54 PM
well, this is horse shit.

Raine_Loire
Dec 14, 2007, 03:55 PM
On 2007-12-14 12:37, Kishin wrote:

Ahaha you forgot the third option
3) You made that mission too and now are you crying like a noob for dont keep that stuff.
If SEGA had release that mission legit for all player, for me was ok, this mean was a legit way for get some rare, but since wasn't, people have abuse that mission for get items. And, how can you know people join that mission "ONLY" for fun?Oh well I dont like argue in the forums, specially with noobs like you. Ty.



It's better that you don't argue in forums until you have a better grasp of the English language.

Anyway, I didn't make that mission, nor did I abuse it for get items. I simply took notes on what dropped from what level monster and how many times out of how many monsters total. My complaint about the rollback was and has always been that #1 if it's segas mistake, they should just let people keep what they got (oh noes, that guy has 554 christmas trees!!) and #2 a rollback is unfair to people who didn't play that mission and got rares and ground weapons or won big in the casino- luck based stuff that can't be repeated. Or, in my case, I sold all my A ranks to get money for shoes, and I'm not sure if they sold before or after the update, so I'd rather not risk it.

I can know people joined it only for fun because I was reading about it when I first heard about it, and everyone was saying "Oh well, since it's going to be rolled back anyway, I'm going to pop in" and "I hope they leave it up long enough for me to play it for a while."

I for one have never fought any of those enemies before, so it WAS quite fun.

NO ONE GOT ANY ITEMS FROM THAT MISSION. THE ITEMS ARE ALL GOING BYE BYE. AND THERE ARE MAYBE 4 PEOPLE DUMB ENOUGH TO HAVE THOUGHT THEY WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE ANY RARES TO SHOW FOR DOING THAT MISSION!

bloodflowers
Dec 14, 2007, 03:55 PM
Not losing the rather good Vish Adac I synthed would be nice. Having my failures to grind weapons erased would .. not be something I'd complain about. Either way I want them to decide soon so I can get back to playing.

KyEmo
Dec 14, 2007, 03:55 PM
Wait. I just got back from work. Roll back? Servers are shut down? I lost my rarez from the runs I did this morning? I got good items to...

Kishin
Dec 14, 2007, 03:58 PM
Lets hope not, just wait we cant do anything else...

addictedtopsu
Dec 14, 2007, 03:58 PM
Hey were they talking about the rare enemy mission that was at the HIVE?? I've never seen it there before so I didn't do it. I just went to parum and started doing missions there. Oh and I didn't know why they were talking about a rollback and now I do so thanks for clearing that up for me.

Raine_Loire
Dec 14, 2007, 04:00 PM
On 2007-12-14 12:55, bloodflowers wrote:
Not losing the rather good Vish Adac I synthed would be nice. Having my failures to grind weapons erased would .. not be something I'd complain about. Either way I want them to decide soon so I can get back to playing.



Umm I read in another thread that it's theorized that success or failure is decided when you insert materials, so if it succeeded it will after the rollback. I know if it fails once it will always fail, so no reason to think otherwise...

KyEmo
Dec 14, 2007, 04:01 PM
*Facepalm*

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Niloklives
Dec 14, 2007, 04:06 PM
it was probablly a gugg crown or something...they're common..let it go.

whoever it was that said PS2/PC servers were done with their bonuses cleary isn't playing on ps2/pc. that extra week was for everyone. give it a rest

Kishin you need to shut up. this sounds more like you're crying cause you didn't enter the mission and get in on servers werthe stuff people found. you're living proof that there are ignorant people on the servers. rather than attack the other ignorant people, who ran that mission for whatever reason they did, you should rise up and defend your brethren. try thinking before you type. you might decided against coming off like an ass.

in any case the cookie analogy is a decent fit....those poor ants...I think a rollback is a bit extreme, but there isn't much to be done. while they made a mistake, either all should benefit from it or none. so I'm down eith a rollback as long as theres some sort of compensation for progress lost. 10 gold is too much...way too much...another week of 1-up is more likely what we can expect if anything. for the sake of intrigye, I'd have liked to try that mission...just to see for myself what all the fuss is about....ah well.


On 2007-12-14 13:00, Raine_Loire wrote:

On 2007-12-14 12:55, bloodflowers wrote:
Not losing the rather good Vish Adac I synthed would be nice. Having my failures to grind weapons erased would .. not be something I'd complain about. Either way I want them to decide soon so I can get back to playing.



Umm I read in another thread that it's theorized that success or failure is decided when you insert materials, so if it succeeded it will after the rollback. I know if it fails once it will always fail, so no reason to think otherwise...



yeah it will succeed, but the attribute mod may not be as good this time.

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Krisan
Dec 14, 2007, 04:07 PM
I was probably the first person to find the darn thing.. Reason I say this, is moments after the servers went up, that was the first counter I went to (by pure chance) and.. there it was. I was checking the forums for the following hour or so and keeping an eye on the fourth floor as well, but didn't see anyone near there or in the know about it.. Was funny to me, since everyone was so caught up in the new mission stuff, they missed what was right under their noses. =P

Anyway, I ran it a bit because I just adore debug stuff.. And I was pretty surprised they had a mission quite like this. They really DON'T need a mission where dozens of rappies spawn on a single block.. a group of four-five and maybe a secondary group that spawns behind them would have been all they needed for testing purposes, not this.. pretty ridiculous just how overboard this place was for a testing mission. Eh well, I knew immediately after entering the mission what it was, and I knew right away that we'd be getting a rollback..

Hmm, oh and did anyone ever get access to Block 3? The area appeared to be a black void when I entered it, so I never got to see what spawned there.. the NPC block changer lady was present though, and the map suggested there was (or used to be) terrain there, somewhere.. I went to bed before anyone (or at least, anyone vocal) came out about this mission being there..

KyEmo
Dec 14, 2007, 04:08 PM
Give me my Har / Quick, Sori / Tech, and Halarod and I'll be fine....

Raine_Loire
Dec 14, 2007, 04:20 PM
On 2007-12-14 13:07, Krisan wrote:
I was probably the first person to find the darn thing.. Reason I say this, is moments after the servers went up, that was the first counter I went to (by pure chance) and.. there it was. I was checking the forums for the following hour or so and keeping an eye on the fourth floor as well, but didn't see anyone near there or in the know about it.. Was funny to me, since everyone was so caught up in the new mission stuff, they missed what was right under their noses. =P

Anyway, I ran it a bit because I just adore debug stuff.. And I was pretty surprised they had a mission quite like this. They really DON'T need a mission where dozens of rappies spawn on a single block.. a group of four-five and maybe a secondary group that spawns behind them would have been all they needed for testing purposes, not this.. pretty ridiculous just how overboard this place was for a testing mission. Eh well, I knew immediately after entering the mission what it was, and I knew right away that we'd be getting a rollback..

Hmm, oh and did anyone ever get access to Block 3? The area appeared to be a black void when I entered it, so I never got to see what spawned there.. the NPC block changer lady was present though, and the map suggested there was (or used to be) terrain there, somewhere.. I went to bed before anyone (or at least, anyone vocal) came out about this mission being there..



I read (theory) that the room is not in the pc/ps2 players data yet (however you would say that) so it didn't work for them. 360 players played it fine. It was Darlebans (I think that's it...) but Laguna cleared the whole mission 4 times and didn't get a blackheart drop, lol. they dropped a lot of megi photons and copernia. One or 2 Olpads.

Hokokaru
Dec 14, 2007, 04:21 PM
[qoute]Goldiana[/quote]Really thats expensive now? Ive been NPCing all mine.... so how much did I lose?

Kishin
Dec 14, 2007, 04:24 PM
Yeah whatever, its all excuse for dont be in fault.
ahaha dont make me laught NIloklives.
You're one maybe you cry for have lost your "legit" precious items found in that mission. Ok ok, aybe people start that TEST mission for fun only... hahahaaha what laught.


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Raine_Loire
Dec 14, 2007, 04:25 PM
On 2007-12-14 13:24, Kishin wrote:
Yeah whatever, its all excuse for dont be in fault.
ahaha dont make me laught NIloklives.
You're one maybe you cry for have lost your "legit" precious items
found in that mission. I know friend ask me if I was going try that mission and get rares easly, I refuse because do this wasnt legit. And yes, I think there's ignorant people on the game. One is you. So shut up you.



Another candidate for my vote for "people who should be rolled back to the beginning"

Starting to shape up into a real race...


On 2007-12-14 13:25, KyEmo wrote:


They really DON'T need a mission where dozens of rappies spawn on a single block.. a group of four-five and maybe a secondary group that spawns behind them would have been all they needed for testing purposes, not this..


If they were testing rare drops they might have needed infinite monsters to spawn.



It wasn't infinite though... maybe 30-45 per monster, in sets of 5

And the monsters didn't actually drop all the rares that they have been known to drop, either.



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KyEmo
Dec 14, 2007, 04:25 PM
They really DON'T need a mission where dozens of rappies spawn on a single block.. a group of four-five and maybe a secondary group that spawns behind them would have been all they needed for testing purposes, not this..


If they were testing rare drops they might have needed infinite monsters to spawn.

Kishin
Dec 14, 2007, 04:32 PM
Raine_Loire
I edit the reply, read it hahahaha

Niloklives
Dec 14, 2007, 04:35 PM
On 2007-12-14 13:24, Kishin wrote:
Yeah whatever, its all excuse for dont be in fault.
ahaha dont make me laught NIloklives.
You're one maybe you cry for have lost your "legit" precious items found in that mission. Ok ok, aybe people start that TEST mission for fun only... hahahaaha what laught.


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so not only can I not write, but you can't read? i said I'm in favor of the roll back...like I said. you're just plain ignorant. go take some English classes before you try to argue with me again.

KyEmo
Dec 14, 2007, 04:36 PM
Obviously, the people who voted no rollback were the ones spamming the mission.

I vote for the Rollback as a last resort.

Kaloa
Dec 14, 2007, 04:37 PM
On 2007-12-14 13:25, Raine_Loire wrote:
It wasn't infinite though... maybe 30-45 per monster, in sets of 5

And the monsters didn't actually drop all the rares that they have been known to drop, either.


Oh? What didn't they drop that they were supposed to? I'm pretty sure I saw all the rappy and jao drops.

Raine_Loire
Dec 14, 2007, 04:37 PM
On 2007-12-14 13:35, NIloklives wrote:

On 2007-12-14 13:24, Kishin wrote:
Yeah whatever, its all excuse for dont be in fault.
ahaha dont make me laught NIloklives.
You're one maybe you cry for have lost your "legit" precious items found in that mission. Ok ok, aybe people start that TEST mission for fun only... hahahaaha what laught.


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so not only can I not write, but you can't read? i said I'm in favor of the roll back...like I said. you're just plain ignorant. go take some English classes before you try to argue with me again.



In my head he has an Iraqi accent. Or Swedish. Weird, cause it could be either.

Anway he's just trolling at this point.

Krisan
Dec 14, 2007, 04:39 PM
On 2007-12-14 13:20, Raine_Loire wrote:
I read (theory) that the room is not in the pc/ps2 players data yet (however you would say that) so it didn't work for them. 360 players played it fine. It was Darlebans (I think that's it...) but Laguna cleared the whole mission 4 times and didn't get a blackheart drop, lol. they dropped a lot of megi photons and copernia. One or 2 Olpads.

Really? I had a sinking suspicion that might be the case, but it struck me as very odd were it true.. Oh well, any idea what the area actually looked like? I noticed the normal Linear Line music played there.. (As in, the uncorrupt Linear Line music, not the "Dark Infection" music which we're all more familiar with today when we think of the Linear Line.)

And how did clearing the mission work? Any whacky mission rewards? =P


On 2007-12-14 13:24, Kishin wrote:
Yeah whatever, its all excuse for dont be in fault.
ahaha dont make me laught NIloklives.
You're one maybe you cry for have lost your "legit" precious items found in that mission. Ok ok, aybe people start that TEST mission for fun only... hahahaaha what laught.


You whine a LOT for something that was Sega's own mistake. Even if no one had even noticed the damned mission being there, we'd still have a maintenance right now for them to remove it and for them to review and make sure no one actually did run it. As it stands now, it didn't even MATTER who ran it, because it changed absolutely nothing in the expected schedule of things..

Besides, you have a HORRIBLE business mindset. You do not punish customers for your own mistake.. when you start doing that, you start losing customers.. and then you start losing money. Not to mention banning anyone who even ran the mission is banning the curious and confused along with those guilty of having at the mission wildly. Someone kooky enough has to be out there who shares your skewed ideals after all, and how would they feel then if they just accessed the mission out of curiosity and were ensured bannation over it, even though they did nothing there after realizing what it was?

Oy, you're acting very rude, very loud, and acting superior to people when you have no idea what you are even suggesting. Take a breather, step back, and think about this a minute. It was Sega's mistake, people had fun with the mistake, the mistake is being fixed now. The End.

Raine_Loire
Dec 14, 2007, 04:40 PM
On 2007-12-14 13:37, Kaloa wrote:

On 2007-12-14 13:25, Raine_Loire wrote:
It wasn't infinite though... maybe 30-45 per monster, in sets of 5

And the monsters didn't actually drop all the rares that they have been known to drop, either.


Oh? What didn't they drop that they were supposed to? I'm pretty sure I saw all the rappy and jao drops.



I didn't see any Meow Mustaches. Actually all I saw for the Jaggos were delma.



On 2007-12-14 13:36, KyEmo wrote:
Obviously, the people who voted no rollback were the ones spamming the mission. who didn't have anything to do with the test mission and don't want to lose the stuff they got because someone at Sega didn't check to make sure something like this didn't happen before they brought the servers back up.

I vote for the Rollback as a last resort.



Fixed.

And the block 3 mission looked kind of like the middle point between the first GC mission and fight for food. There wasn't music, and after it was cleared, the bar that comes up for "mission cleared" was across the screen, but it was blank, and the door led to clyez city 4th floor. No mission points, lol, I would have liked to see that...

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Kishin
Dec 14, 2007, 04:42 PM
On 2007-12-14 13:37, Raine_Loire wrote:

On 2007-12-14 13:35, NIloklives wrote:

On 2007-12-14 13:24, Kishin wrote:
Yeah whatever, its all excuse for dont be in fault.
ahaha dont make me laught NIloklives.
You're one maybe you cry for have lost your "legit" precious items found in that mission. Ok ok, aybe people start that TEST mission for fun only... hahahaaha what laught.


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so not only can I not write, but you can't read? i said I'm in favor of the roll back...like I said. you're just plain ignorant. go take some English classes before you try to argue with me again.



In my head he has an Iraqi accent. Or Swedish. Weird, cause it could be either.

Anway he's just trolling at this point.



Ahahaha what fun.

victorleespad
Dec 14, 2007, 04:45 PM
Fuck a roll back, fuck gold coins, fuck this whole dam situation! This is fucking clown shoes. They are not gonna give us coins because the non expansion player cant use them. They're just gonna stick it to us with no lub! ST if you are out there reading this post, i'd be happy with a lot of PA fragments you can keep your gold. or you can give me a month free service. Chit, you can even let me keep all the rares i was able to buy cheap once they flooded the marked. I just know that im gonna get on when the servers go up and find my whole inventory smashed like Angel Grove after a Mega Zord battle. Who's the smartest kid with downsyndrome that let this mistake happen. You guys are so lucky that "True Fantasy Live Online" didnt make it other wise i'd put my game in the microwave for a minute thirty and then take out the CD and punch it, call my little mexican friend who like to cut stuff and let him recreate a nightmare on it, then paint a target on the ground and put the CD in the middle of that target and steal a jumbo jet like on GTA and jump out of it and elbow drop what ever was left after getting it back for Hector and let the jet find a nice firey home where this game was made at. But I like the game too much, so let me keep both of my Psycho wands, black heart, har / quick, and sori / tech charger. P.S all that money is really mine so HANDS OFF!

Kaloa
Dec 14, 2007, 04:46 PM
On 2007-12-14 13:40, Raine_Loire wrote:

On 2007-12-14 13:37, Kaloa wrote:

On 2007-12-14 13:25, Raine_Loire wrote:
It wasn't infinite though... maybe 30-45 per monster, in sets of 5

And the monsters didn't actually drop all the rares that they have been known to drop, either.


Oh? What didn't they drop that they were supposed to? I'm pretty sure I saw all the rappy and jao drops.



I didn't see any Meow Mustaches. Actually all I saw for the Jaggos were delma.


I saw one drop. I also saw two of their units. (although 1 of them never appeared in my inventory when I picked it up for some reason...)

The drops were crazy-rare, but they were there.

Krisan
Dec 14, 2007, 04:46 PM
On 2007-12-14 13:40, Raine_Loire wrote:

On 2007-12-14 13:37, Kaloa wrote:

On 2007-12-14 13:25, Raine_Loire wrote:
It wasn't infinite though... maybe 30-45 per monster, in sets of 5

And the monsters didn't actually drop all the rares that they have been known to drop, either.


Oh? What didn't they drop that they were supposed to? I'm pretty sure I saw all the rappy and jao drops.



I didn't see any Meow Mustaches. Actually all I saw for the Jaggos were delma.


I got me some Meow Mustaches, actually. And two Giga Bullet's as well. The vaaaaast majority was delma, though.. which kind of places into perspective just how crappy the droprates are on some of these items.

I know I found far more Serafi boards than feathers, for example, which seems ass backwards to me.

Raine_Loire
Dec 14, 2007, 04:47 PM
On 2007-12-14 13:45, victorleespad wrote:
Fuck a roll back, fuck gold coins, fuck this whole dam situation! This is fucking clown shoes.


The kouze shoes... those are clown shoes. This is just a steaming pile of... ramen.


On 2007-12-14 13:46, Krisan wrote:

I got me some Meow Mustaches, actually. And two Giga Bullet's as well. The vaaaaast majority was delma, though.. which kind of places into perspective just how crappy the droprates are on some of these items.

I know I found far more Serafi boards than feathers, for example, which seems ass backwards to me.


Serafi feathers actually had a better drop rate at level 1, I guess because boards didn't drop at that level? We only played through at 1, 40, 60 and 70 though, so I can only make an estimate about the rest. Cleared it 4 times, and didn't see anything besides jaggo delma, that's why I assumed nothing else dropped.



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_K1_
Dec 14, 2007, 07:43 PM
I came out ahead with the rollback already.

This morning, my sori-senba board produced an ortapolymer. Post-rollback, it made a 22% armor.